Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Joni Burke, and today’s guest is Christina Cannes. She is a coach, hypnotherapist, and nutritionist, and she’s also had mediumship abilities since she was a child. She also has experienced navigating past lives. Tonight, we’ll talk about an experience she had recently where she was able to channel a well-known musician who left us almost 30 years ago. Christina, welcome back to the program.
Christina Cannes: Thank you. Hello.
Johnny Burke: I just want to let our listeners know that you have been on the show before, it was a while ago, I believe it was last January. And tonight, we’re going to talk about an experience that you had recently while you were listening to the new Lana Del Ray album. Why don’t you tell us what happened?
Christina Cannes: Well, for those of you who have not heard Lana’s new album, I really suggest you check it out. Not that I work for her anyway, but it’s a beautiful album, with beautiful music. I’ve been a fan of hers for many years and I listened to it and I love music and I love film. I love all art. But I don’t typically get involved in the artist. I don’t get obsessed with whoever’s created the art. I just appreciate the art for what it is. This time though, I thought I’ll actually Google Lana and, and learn more about who she is.
So, I did some Googling, and I found a quote from Courtney Love that said, Lana and Kurt Cobain were the only two musical geniuses she had ever met, and. Coming from her, she’s met a lot of musicians and she’s met so many people over the years. So her saying that really stood out for me. I was like, oh wow, okay. That’s massive. growing up I had been a Nirvana fan, not a massive one. I had Nevermind. And I loved grunge, and I loved all the music coming out of Seattle, but I didn’t really know too much about Kurt Cobain. I didn’t buy In Utero because it just felt kind of dark to me. But I remember when he died and I remember, Courtney Love, I had Live Through This, so I didn’t really know too much about them, I just appreciated their music. But seeing that quote really jumped out at me.
As I was sitting there, I started to hear this voice start to talk. Typically, when that happens, I usually only get messages from people who are coming through to tell a loved one something. So, it’s usually a friend or a family member. And in this instance, it was not either of those things. It was Kurt Cobain. And this is really awkward for me to even share or talk about because I haven’t had an experience like this ever in my life. At first, I was really cynical. I didn’t, because you must be careful with who’s trying to come through, what’s trying to come through. And I have very strict boundaries around how I channel and who I channel. I don’t even call it channeling, I just call it a conversation because you can take on the death trauma and the trauma that the spirit had in their lifetime. So, you have to be really careful.
Johnny Burke: It’s draining, isn’t it? that part?
Christina Cannes: Well, I think there are a lot of psychic mediums who are physically unwell because they channel too much because it takes you out of your body. And again, it allows other things to come in. Like with Kurt at one point, I could see the entities that were attached to him because he had been a drug addict and experienced a lot of trauma and abuse as a child. So, there were definitely entities, so I had to be very careful with him at first. It was a really bizarre experience. It really lasted almost two weeks, the first week of which was really intense. but it was like any relationship in that I was like, ‘Okay, well I’m open to talking to you.’ We both had to establish trust. He would tell me bits and pieces and then see how I responded to it. because I was just open to it, I was like his therapist for two weeks. I was just listening. He kept telling me more and more and more, and then at one point, I did have to kind of put the boundaries up strongly because I think it was on the third day.
He was just so excited to talk to me. He came into the house big time and was like turning on fans, messing with electricity. He was messing with my son’s Kindle, when we were lying in bed, he was like moving the Kindle all around. I’m moving the fan and I kept wanting to go back and smoke. I used to smoke American spirits, the yellow pack, it was just like my favorite thing ever, and I haven’t smoked in so many years, decades, and I kept having this craving for American spirits and I was like, this is not me. This is him.
And, at one point he got so excited. I live in a neighborhood in Australia that’s very residential and the wildlife really aren’t, there’s birds, but that’s about it. I was trying to get my work done and I was at my desk and he was just constantly trying to talk to me and all of a sudden I see this kangaroo come bouncing into my yard that’s taller and bigger than me. And he was huge, massive. I’m five-six, so this was probably five -eight. And it’s just like bouncing all around the yard like it can’t get out. I’ve got high fences. I was actually scared. I thought it was going to hurt itself or hurt somebody or damage property. And then I could hear Kurt laughing, he just thought I was hilarious. He brought this kangaroo and I’m like, all right, mate. So then I just got serious, and I was like, let’s just really talk. And he kind of told me a lot more after that. That was really pretty amazing.
Johnny Burke: What kind of things was he telling you?
Christina Cannes: Right off the bat he wanted to talk about his legacy. He’s really sad that he’s known for his drug abuse and his suicide. He does not want that to be his legacy. He does not want his fans, and especially kids to be influenced by that. It really upsets him, and makes him really sad. His art and his music were just so important to him. That’s how he wants to be known. Yes, there were drugs, but the way it was portrayed in the media, he hates the media, that’s for sure. And he was telling me, showing me how they would manipulate a lot.
The media was used against him in a variety of ways, I will say that. And it was used by very clever people to manipulate him. He was very much trapped. And it’s funny, he was really, really very nice and he had a really funny sense of humor. He said, “You know, I created Nirvana as a way to escape, as a way to create freedom for myself. Freedom in the sense freedom of expression, freedom, authenticity.” He wanted to create a vehicle in which he could create and develop art and be himself with total freedom. And ultimately, Nirvana became a prison. He was trying to escape it towards the end. he was trying to shed the persona that he had created and he was showing me how Nirvana was only around a couple of years and then all of a sudden he was like this global superstar and he was saying, it was just so hard to change that rapidly. His identity went from, just a kid in this small-town playing music with big dreams to a global celebrity with this power and influence that he never imagined he’d ever have. And he became a father and a husband, and everything just so changed so rapidly. It was really, really hard for him to manage that and for him to navigate that.
He didn’t have a lot of support or people he could trust, especially his own family. And he didn’t really have anyone who understood what he was going through so he did the best he could, but he acknowledges that he definitely could have made better decisions, but he’s really proud of his art and what he created. He gets really upset when people call it grunge. He is like, it is not grunge. It is a combination of punk and pop and how dare they call it grunge. It just so happened he was from that geographical area. His music is very different from the other bands that came out of Seattle.
Johnny Burke: I would, I would say so. Yeah.
Christina Cannes: It’s very different and, he purposely created the music in that way because that’s what felt authentic for him. He is proud of its timelessness. He thinks the other grunge bands sound very dated in some ways, but his music does not. It’s a timeless piece of art and he’s very, very proud of that. And he was talking to me about what he learned as an artist, and he said to create art and to be someone who you know creates really impactful art, you kind of need three ingredients. And the three ingredients are number one, civil disobedience. So completely just doing your own thing, saying no If anyone tries to influence you, like the corporate people. Number two, creativity is being open to receiving whatever creative inspiration comes through.
I don’t know if people know this about him, but he was really psychic and he used to channel this creativity and put it into his music. He was very talented. He could draw, he could paint, he could sculpt, he could make music. Like he was just this walking creator, and he just allowed it to come through and he didn’t try to stop it. And he was very protective of it. The third ingredient he said is authenticity; to remain true to yourself and to just be who you are. That’s a really, really powerful combination. He was not conscious of this when he was alive. He’s conscious of it now, but he wants people to know him for that, for his authenticity, for his creativity, and for his civil disobedience. He wants everyone to kind of do that because if we all did that, the earth would be a really different place.
Johnny Burke: He sounds somewhat happy. Would you agree or is it kind of hard to tell?
Christina Cannes: From what I gathered from our discussions, he is accepting. He’s accepted what’s happened. He does not want people to think he killed himself. The suicide thing is untrue. Let’s just put it that way. He does not want his legacy to be that he killed himself because that affected so many people in a really negative way, and he’s really upset that his legacy is used to manipulate people. He works with other artists to help them. I get that he does help Lana, and that’s why he came through. He tries to keep them safe because he was put in a position because of his fame where he just became a commodity to people. He was making a lot of people a lot of money.
And he was not really aware of his commodification because he was a pretty empathetic person, very empathetic. So for him, the reason Nirvana became such a trap is because he felt a responsibility to take care of people in a way. And at the end he was like, all right, no, I’m done. Like I must get out of this. Because he was so dedicated to his art and his creativity, he showed me the most important person for him was John Lennon. I get that John was helping him create his music like they were working together, and artists have to shed their skin and create new types of art.
A true artist is someone who’s constantly changing and evolving and trying and taking risks. And so for him, the Nirvana persona had to be shed because he was ready to try other things and experiment and explore. Because he was a commodity, shedding that skin was going to be a huge financial loss for a lot of people involved. He really wasn’t able, when he was alive, to understand that he wasn’t able to understand that sort of people and how they thought that way. That was just so bizarre for him. But now that he’s passed, he can see that, and he helps people because he doesn’t want anyone to be put in a position like him where they become a commodity. He’s very protective of artists.
Johnny Burke: So you’re saying that he actually helps musicians now from where he is, influences them, I’ve actually heard that about quite a few people. Lennon, actually Paul McCartney was quoted as saying Lennon still helps him write songs or did very recently so it’s not altogether shocking. Really, really interesting. What I’ve, been told about, growing up Catholic, is that suicide victims go to a very bad place. That doesn’t really sound like what happened to him, but then again, you said he didn’t commit suicide. So, did he tell you what happened?
Christina Cannes: Yeah, it took a while to get there, and as a kid. I was, I think 13 when he died, and I remember hearing about it. I literally saw Kurt Loder on MTV News, announce it. And I remember kind of thinking it didn’t really make sense to me, but I was really young. I just kind of parked it. I didn’t get sucked into it, like the drama of it or the suspicion, I was like, that’s really sad and sad to hear that. That’s too bad.
So when he told me at first, he kept saying, I created a prison. My life had become poison. And then eventually it was kind of at the end of the first week I spent with him, I think we had developed a certain level of trust and he said,” You know, I didn’t kill myself “and it didn’t feel like suicide. With suicide comes a certain level of shame and regret even on the other side. And even people I’ve spoken to who have OD’ed, there’s a lot of shame and regret even with that because it’s almost an unconscious way of killing themselves .
With him there’s not a ton of shame and regret, like a little bit around even using drugs. He was like,’ Drugs are terrible. No one should use them. They do not help your art.’ He’s not a fan of drugs, and he said they were used to control him. He didn’t know then that that was what was going on because drugs did help him cope with that insane amount of change that he experienced rapidly in like a year. And they were fun, and they were a nice way for him to escape but ultimately, they weren’t great. So he said I didn’t kill myself. I just feel so weird even saying this because it goes against the narrative.
Johnny Burke: Well, definitely -I’m pretty sure there has been at least one book written about
Christina Cannes: Tons of books, so I never knew any of that. I didn’t know there was this whole group of people out there pushing for this case to be reopened and reexamined. But yeah, he said very clearly” I did not kill myself. I was murdered.” The way he showed it to me was, there were a lot of people involved. Three men. He was in Seattle. He was not at his house. He was staying in a motel. There were three men involved, two of whom he knew, one of whom was kind of the overseer, more like a professional person there to kind of manage things and they came into the motel room. Just one of them showed me, he just kept saying, they put me to sleep. So they did something to put him to sleep, either with heroin or some kind of other drug. And then this friend of his, someone he knew. I don’t get that, it was a close friend, but it was someone that he knew who came into the hotel and was sort of setting up this scene where they were pretending to hang out.
And they’re like, oh yeah. Hey man, you know, whatever. And then he was put to sleep and then this other kind of professional person, handler manager came and, and they took him out of the motel room and brought him back to his house. And he said he was put in the greenhouse because that was just the easiest kind of place to put him. It was close to the driveway, and he was pretty much unconscious. They dragged him up there and out of the house. So that kind of created this plausible deniability. And then the third guy was at the house. So once they got him to the house, they brought him up to the greenhouse. I think the way he showed me was there more drugs and then they shot him.
So he definitely didn’t pull the trigger. He was murdered. He was put to sleep so that they could shoot him. And the whole scene was staged. And he’s really, really upset that people close to him who he thought really loved him, would believe that he killed himself. And especially in that way, he’s kind of offended that he’s like, ‘I wouldn’t have just stabbed a note with a pin’. And he just wouldn’t have done that in that way. He’s like, ‘Yeah, od? Sure, but shot? no. ‘
He did show me one of the people involved, after I was shown this, I Googled. Cause I’m like, what is going on? The narrative being woven is definitely one of suicide. And even the conspiracy or- I won’t even call them conspiracy theorists. I’d say seekers of truth the way they described this scene as happening wasn’t this. He did show me one of the people involved, I found one of the people by accident, and when I saw the picture of them, I almost threw up, like the emotions I felt were just such disgust and betrayal. I didn’t know who this person was, but it was one of the nannies that his wife at the time had hired was a heroin addict. Everybody involved except for the professional person were heroin addicts, so they were controlled.
Johnny Burke: Very sinister account. I don’t know why someone or some entity would come through and tell you all this just for kicks. Why do you suppose he came through while you’re listening to Lana Del Rey and why do you suppose it came through to you? Any clue?
Christina Cannes: Yeah, so I’m writing a book about creativity, and I think creativity is our superpower. I think we all have gifts. I think it’s our almost duty to share those gifts with the world and to use those gifts. I think that a lot of mental illness and suffering is created because we are not being creative. So I started writing this book and I was listening to Lana and so he came through because he was excited. A, I liked his music, and B, because I’m as excited about creativity as he is. So he just wanted to hang out and talk about creativity and authenticity and civil disobedience. It was like finding a friend, somebody who understands what’s happened to you. And a lot of the conversations we had, he was helpful to me because, I’m not saying I’m a global celebrity or an artist at his level, or, I mean, I’m nothing like that.
There were some experiences in life that I’ve had, and he was like,’ You understand this,’ and he would show me different things in my life and then how they linked back to his own experiences. And so, it was just him saying, hey, I see you. I understand. I’m so glad that you are practicing civil disobedience. You are being authentic, and you understand and love creativity, and that’s just all it was. And I’m just so grateful that I could spend that time with him and learn from him and ultimately, share his message. Because it got to the point where I was like, I have to tell someone this. It was just too much information.
And typically, when people want to it’s for a loved one. And so, I call that person up or I get in touch with that person and say, ‘Hey, so and so has come through. Would you like me to share this information with you?’ And I’ve never had someone say, “No. “Everyone’s always like, “yes.”
Johnny Burke: Of course.
Christina Cannes: In this case, there was no person to ask permission. This is just for everybody. So I’ve just got to put it out there and I hope whoever finds it can use it in a way that helps them in their lives.
Johnny Burke: Did you ask him any questions about the afterlife; what it’s like, what we can expect? Did you have any discussions around that at all?
Christina Cannes: Now I didn’t ask him any of that. He just wanted to talk, so he was just telling me things and I was just receiving. I didn’t really ask him very much. I really don’t ask those questions very much. I don’t really explore that side. I’m shown different aspects of it, but perhaps I should start exploring that a bit more.
He did tell me that he loves his daughter so much. Like he is so, so, so, so proud of her. He says she’s really, really, really more artistic and creative than him. She doesn’t have great people around her, unfortunately, very much like him. And what he would really love for her to do is set up an art school or an art institute for kids who can’t afford to go to a school that would help them explore their gifts and talent. Almost like a high school kind of situation. He was really, really creative and he hated school, but he didn’t have anywhere to go where he could have, explored his talent, explored his art which he says is a blessing and also something he wishes he’d been able to experience. So, he really wants her to set up this school, and he said she needs a purpose to really, I guess, make life easier so I didn’t really ask him about any of that. It was more just him telling me all these things because it’s really important for him to get these messages out there. And he is just really grateful, and I get that he does help people who know that he didn’t commit suicide. He does want that legacy to be something much greater than just suicide and heroin. There might be stuff coming out next year. He’s pushing really hard to get that truth out. But no, I didn’t ask him about any of that.
Johnny Burke: What about since you just mentioned suicide and heroin, did he mention anything about Chris Cornell who passed not that long ago, and perhaps maybe even Layne Staley, because they all knew each other, didn’t they?
Christina Cannes: Yeah, they did. I’m pretty sure they did. No, he didn’t say anything about them, he talked about John Lennon and how John Lennon helped him when he was a musician. There were a lot of similarities You could say Kurt was our generation’s John Lennon, or, Gen X, Millennials’ John Lennon. So, John was definitely trying to help him and do the best he could to keep him safe.
Johnny Burke: John Lennon- many people think that he was way, way ahead of his time, just in his lyrics and everything else.
Christina Cannes: So was Kurt. Kurt was way ahead of his time. You could just say they’re both prophets in the sense that in the way Kurt was behaving in the nineties, we went from like Guns N Roses to Kurt Cobain in like a year. Axl Rose versus Kurt Cobain, that’s a very different energy. He was really kind, he was pro-women’s rights, and he was pro-gay like he was holding his baby showing men, it’s totally cool to be like a rock star and a dad, which is really similar to what John Lennon did. John Lennon kind of quit music and went and did the dad thing for a while and was a very active parent.
And even John was very experimental in his music and dedicated to his art. So there were a lot of similarities. So, he talked to me a lot about John Lennon and about him in protecting and influencing him. Even John Lennon’s son Sean, he wishes Francis and Sean would hang out more, and both sort of create these art institutes to help people develop their art and their talent. Cause there are so many people out there that have amazing talent and amazing creative ability, and they become like, software developers. It’s really, it’s sad,
Johnny Burke: Maybe that’s what they want to do.
Christina Cannes: Well, they got to pay the bills. They got to pay the bills and it’s fine. Pay the bills, but,
Johnny Burke: Right brain talent versus left brain talent.
Christina Cannes: Yeah, I think they just want people to not give up everything to go pay the bills. You can do both, and it’s important to always foster that creativity inside yourself.
Johnny Burke: Agreed. Yeah. Anything else that you want to tell us about this, about this experience?
Christina Cannes: I’m just really grateful and humbled and hope whoever hears this, helps them open up to their own creativity and stay true to themselves. He just wants everyone to know what you see in the media and that what you see in the entertainment industry is very, very controlled, very controlled, so be mindful and discerning in regard to what you consume. And the most dangerous thing for those industries is someone they can’t control.
Johnny Burke: Which, he was pretty much.
Christina Cannes: You couldn’t control Kurt Cobain no matter how much heroin you tried to give him; he would go in the opposite direction. He would go,” That’s nice” and he just would do his own thing. He was very dedicated to his art, and he was happy being his authentic self. That’s really something to admire and look up to and aspire to.
Christina Cannes: His message For all the people who are in the entertainment and media industries is to be mindful and be safe and take care of yourself and just know and be aware of what is going on there.
Johnny Burke: Not that I know much about the music industry, even though I was a musician for a long time, but it’s a very interesting place. Let’s put it that way, some people think it’s a dark, dark place. I never really saw that up close, But I don’t know.
Christina Cannes: I think it can be. I think like all things, it has both aspects. You just need to be aware of who you hire. You know who you hire as a manager, who you work with as a label, and as long as you’re mindful and intentional you’ll be okay. I don’t think it’s all dark. I don’t think it’s all good. I think it’s like everything in life, there’s aspects of both.
Johnny Burke: I don’t think it’s all dark either, but, like I say, it’s a very, interesting experience, but that’s probably a discussion for another day.
Christina Cannes: It’s the commodification that he doesn’t want. He doesn’t want people to fall into that trap, and that’s a really hard trap to get out of once you’re in it.
Johnny Burke: Well, it’s very hard though because a label or an entity, whoever’s basically footing the bill is basically a bank; they invest in certain artists or products, right? And they have to recoup, and that artist has to do four or five albums, or they (most likely) lose money. If you were investing in something, you’d probably want to see a return too. Unfortunately, those products are human beings. I think all of us, when he was alive, could see that he wasn’t comfortable with the industry.
Christina Cannes: I guess I got it, but I didn’t really sucked into it or understand it or really even care so for me it was a surprise. I didn’t really know much about him as a person.
Johnny Burke: One of the things I did want to mention is that you’ve had mediumistic type experiences since you were a child. So, do you think over time that your skills actually get sharper? Or are they about the same?
Christina Cannes: I definitely think the more and more I just accept them and open up to them and allow them. Oh, sorry. One more thing, Kurt wants everyone to know that his bandmates, Chris and Dave, are wonderful people, like just such good, kind, nice people. And he wishes he had been kinder to them and treated them differently when he was alive, and he could not have created what he created with Nirvana and he just wants everyone to know that he really appreciates them and loves them.
Johnny Burke: Good for him. Well, hopefully, that gets out to them.
Christina Cannes: He just wants everyone to know they’re great guys and they had nothing to do with that. They had nothing to do with anything that happened to him. Yeah, and they actually were really supportive of him, and I get that, especially Dave knows a lot more than he’ll ever say about everything that’s happened. And Chris is kind of in denial. They really did love him and appreciate him, and they really do wish he was so around. And, he did want to leave Nirvana and do more like singer-songwriter, unplugged type of music without them. And it had nothing to do with them, it was just him as an artist. That’s what he wanted to explore and do. But anyways, thank you, Kurt.
So, I think to answer your question, to circle back, I think the more you allow your gifts to just open up, the more comes through. I think as a kid I was quite scared of it all. It was really scary because no one was around telling me that A, this was normal, or B, showing me how to manage it. Now that I know how to manage it and stay safe, I’m comfortable with it. It seems to be that more and more is happening, and I also think we live in a time period, especially now of insane change. Like everything is changing; we’re being asked to really evolve rapidly, and I think people from the other side are seeing this and they’re trying to help more, I think they want to help. And I guess as I evolve, the messages I’m getting are coming in from different sources.
So last year I accidentally had a conversation with Princess Diana and then, a few months ago I accidentally had a conversation with JFK Jr. And so that wasn’t as long and profound as my conversations with Kurt. He just wanted to hang out. He was really nice. With them, they just wanted to share very direct messages to clarify some issues going on. I was taken aback because I’d never talked to people who had been famous like that before. And so, I did a lot of Who is this? Who am I speaking to?’ And they checked it out.
Johnny Burke: How do you do that by the way? because I’ve been told by many speakers, mediums, like you, that they have to be very careful about entities that come through because sometimes, they’re not who they say they are. So how do you kind of check them out?
Christina Cannes: First of all, I’ve somehow set up this system where I will only receive information through what I call my spirit and spirit kind of lives when I’m in a meditative state on the right side of- I don’t even want to call it channeling when I’m just having conversations. They come through on this right side. And then when there are other things that I can’t trust or that I’m not going to speak to, it’s more of this left side bottom side. So, like Kurt’s entities that I could see were coming through on the bottom left and I was like, oh, no, no, no. Bye-bye. Just some things that I’ve come across are always on the left, so if they’re coming through on the right, I’m like, all right. And then I ask them who they are, and I’m like, ‘Well, show me, how do I know it’s you? Show me.’ And they’ll give me insight into things. They’ll start opening up their world and showing me their energy. And usually, it’s the exact opposite of what I’ve seen in the media, and I can feel it in my body. It’s like a yes in my body, in my stomach, It’s the truth. Like you can feel the truth of it.
So with Princess Diana, what she was showing me was the exact opposite of what was being portrayed in the media. And I was actually kind of taken aback because it’s the exact opposite of what’s going on. Not that I’m invested in the royal family and their narrative in any way, but I was actually investigating Harry and Megan in their relocation to the US, and the Netflix and the book and all this stuff was coming out and I was just like, this is weird. This is really weird. So I did a meditation just to kind of check out their energy and she came through and was like, ‘There’s bad stuff going on.’ She was really, worried about Harry and his mental health and a possible suicide later on when this relationship all falls apart.
She showed me Megan’s manipulation tactics and she showed me her son Will and his wife Kate are really, really good people. Based on the media narrative I thought the opposite. I thought the royal family was just a bunch of mean old white people, and Harry and Megan had to get out of there and the opposite was true, and she just showed me exactly what was going on it made sense. And then I asked her about her own death, and she just got really solemn and said she made bad decisions she should have never gotten involved with, with Dodi and his family.
She said that being in any sort of relationship with Dodi and being in any sort of relationship with his father and the family was a bad decision and had she made another decision, she’d still be alive. But she really didn’t go into whether she was killed, or it was an accident. She kind of owned the fact that that was a really bad decision. She had made bad decisions and a lot of her concern for Harry was the way he was going about dealing with the media, and she had a lot of regrets about how she had used the media to try to get back at the royal family and all the things she had done, the interviews and the books.
She was like, ‘I made so many bad decisions, yes, get the truth out there, but not in that way. So she was just really worried for him and for his mental health and in a few years when his relationship with Megan does break down, what’s going to happen to Harry? She was really upset with her ex-husband for not keeping him safe. She said,’ he didn’t keep Harry safe. ‘Like he was very open to manipulation and like predators really. William and Kate, she’s really proud of them and, they’re just nice, good people. Just parents raising nice kids. Like I didn’t get any of the weird stuff that people say about the royal family.
Johnny Burke: This was Recently though, right?
Christina Cannes: This was last year, maybe like August before all the Netflix and the book and all that stuff. Like I’d heard that that was coming out and I was just like, oh man, that didn’t feel right to me. I was like, this is feeling weird. And my mom was visiting, so I was like, hey, I’ll do a meditation. Let’s get the goth and I’ll just see what comes up with their energy. And I don’t usually do this kind of stuff. I don’t really care. But then there was this whole thing around Harry’s reincarnation. I think he’s had a couple of reincarnations. It was like Henry VIII Edward VIII and now he’s coming as Harry and this whole thing just trying to destroy the monarchy thing. Megan’s probably Anne Boleyn and they are just a mess -it’s just a karmic mess. So, a lot of people are responding to this in a collective way because, it’s bringing up all our trauma, having to live under these crazy kings and queens who at the whim would like, to have us burned and murdered and, it’s just no way to live. Right? So he’s come in and he and his brother had have been together in past lives. The royal family is just this karmic mess. Of people who just keep coming in to try to do this. It’s just the same thing over and over again. It’s like, guys, can we just not do this anymore?
Johnny Burke: Royal Family Karma actually sounds like a band name. Come to think of it, it could be.
Christina Cannes: So with that family, it’s the same thing. It’s don’t believe anything you see in the media. It’s the opposite, everything is the opposite, and yuck. Harry, please don’t do anything to hurt yourself.
Johnny Burke: What kind of advice do you have for someone who has the kind of experience as you did, maybe not with famous people, but someone coming through? Any advice?
Christina Cannes: For someone who suddenly finds themselves in a situation where a dead person is talking to them?
Johnny Burke: Right.
Christina Cannes: So I have people that I can go to who have honed their ability. So it’s important to have a support person or support network of people who have experience with, I guess, other dimensions. Get a variety of people, because everyone sort of has their own way of doing it. They also have their own interpretation of how the spirit world works. So a lot of people’s interpretations, I don’t necessarily agree with. That’s not my experience with it. So, find people who you feel in your body are telling you the truth and giving you good advice. Always be cynical. Cynicism is important when dealing with the spirit world and discernment.
Johnny Burke: Yeah, definitely.
Christina Cannes: Like,’ Is this who I’m talking to? Okay, well then prove it’. And you know, Kurt’s case, he was like, fine, I’ll turn your fans on and off. I’ll move your Kindle around. Here’s a kangaroo, ha ha ha. Wanna smoke?
Johnny Burke: That was him with the kangaroo or?
Christina Cannes: Yeah. He thought it was hilarious. Yeah. He was like, all right, I’ll bring a kangaroo into your yard, and we can play jumpy, jumpy. And so they’ll show you things about their life, how no one else is going to know that, and a lot of times when I’m dealing with entities that aren’t the people, as soon as I start to ask questions, like, identify yourself, they’ll give up immediately. Like the bad ones, or like tricksters? So as soon as you start to ask questions, they’ll do this like laugh thing where they’re like, huh. And they just kind of go away because they know you’re not going to put up with their bs. So, you can kind of flush ’em out really quickly.
They don’t have the persistence that the actual spirit has. The true spirit will be persistent and consistent. And it’s like this truth that the energy doesn’t change. Whereas the trickster ones, they’ll try to put on the guise of, and then they can’t really maintain that energy, so you can flush ’em out really quickly. Yeah. They can’t sustain it. So, that’s my advice. It’s very much an energetic thing. You need to practice and not everything that comes through is accurate. For me, it started with talking to friends and family; “this person is coming through, here’s what they’re sharing with me”, and then getting them to verify the information and make sure the information that you’re getting is true. So I would say start with friends and family before you start letting people who are global celebrities come through because you’ve got to make sure the information you’re getting is accurate. start small. Go from there.
Johnny Burke: Remember, be cynical!
Christina Cannes: Be cynical, be discerning, and keep yourself safe and clear the energy out. Every time you have a conversation, you clear that energy, and you set your boundaries so that you’re safe and protected.
Johnny Burke: Excellent. Christina, thanks again for joining us. There might be a part two or a part three. This is going to get interesting. in the meantime, how can our listeners find out more about you online?
Christina Cannes: Oh, you can find me at www.bigbeautifulsky.com my website, or on Instagram, @bigbeautifulsky. any questions, just send me an email or a message. I’m happy to help you out.