Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Brandi Gilmore. She is a researcher, mind-body healing expert, and author of Master Your Mind and Energy to Heal Your Body. Her work involves years of research, which happened after her own injury, where she discovered there are ways we can activate our body’s self-healing mechanisms. So today, we’ll discuss how we can see proof that energy healing works. Brandy, welcome to the program.
Brandy Gillmore: Johnny, it is so wonderful to connect with you. I love your heart and I’m happy to be here, so thank you.
Johnny Burke: I love it when someone loves my heart. That’s pretty awesome. I don’t think I’ve ever heard that before, so good for you.
Brandy Gillmore: But wait a second. Do you not have a good heart?
Johnny Burke: Of course. I have a good heart. I’ve never heard anyone say, I love your heart. you get the Closer to Venus Gold Heart for that. Put it that way.
Brandy Gillmore: Okay. Okay. I’ll take it. I’ll accept.
Johnny Burke: So, all right. Awesome. So, is a mind-body healer the same thing as an energy healer, or is it something different?
Brandy Gillmore: That is such a perfect question. I just have to say, so yes and no, and yes and no, and this is why: MINDBODY healing ultimately what a lot of people are overlooking is that our minds influence our energy, and our thought patterns influence our energy. And while a lot of people think it’s woo-woo, it’s actually proven science. When we start to look at it, it’s mind-blowing how much our minds and emotions can actually influence our energy or even biophotons.
Johnny Burke: We’re going to dive a little bit deeper into that as the discussion unfolds. So, you had an injury that prompted you to do the research. Before that happened, where did you sit in terms of what you just described as woo-woo and the metaphysical and all the things that are part of what we call the unseen world?
Brandy Gillmore: I was completely unaware. Now, my accident was over 20 years ago; I’ve been working with the mind for quite a while. But at that point, I mean, I was raised Lutheran and then I got away from the whole church and was pretty much agnostic and, and just, I was completely unaware. Science was everything to me and I still love science. That’s what I kind of love . I thought the woo-woo, the unseen, was not scientific, but what was incredible is the more we can actually see we’re all saying the same things but in a different way. And that’s what helped me to heal radically is just by understanding it.
Johnny Burke: And the method of self-healing that we’re talking about, was that influenced by Reiki or any other modalities that fall under the category of energy healing or mind-body healing?
Brandy Gillmore: I would say it’s more towards mind body healing. It’s the awareness that our own minds can direct the energy that’s flowing through our body. And when we start to really understand that, when we have the power to change our health and heal our bodies, but also change our lives,
Johnny Burke: So when did you first discover this ability, of feeling the energy and noticing that we can use it to actually heal ourselves, and probably others as well?
Brandy Gillmore: Your question is an interesting one. So, technically speaking, after I healed myself, I developed this gift to feel what other people feel and feel their energy. That’s a lot of what I do today. So a lot of what I do today is I can feel what people’s energy is and I coach them to shift their own mind to heal themselves. When I started feeling other people’s energy, now going through my own injury over 20 plus years ago, my journey really started with understanding and looking at the placebo, and it was fascinating how many things that I saw that just really pointed to the mind as being the missing key to healing. For example, people with multiple personality disorder can have different illnesses when they’re in different personalities. They can have high blood pressure in one personality but not another or, allergies or asthma or pain in another personality, but not in another. And that was profound to me, and that made me start really looking at the mind-body connection for healing, which also led to the mind-body energy healing for connection as well for healing.
Johnny Burke: So you have clients then, right?
Brandy Gillmore: I do, and a lot of times, I work a lot more with classes and larger classes and workshops and, and yeah. But clients throughout the years, definitely.
Johnny Burke: What’s a typical example of someone that is likely to go to you as opposed to someone seeking out a reiki master, shaman, or anything of that nature? Once we discover that, how do you actually work with them?
Brandy Gillmore: Well, it depends. I would say, so a lot of times the person who ends up coming to me is the person who has been everywhere. A lot of times, they’ve tried literally everything they could find, which was exactly my situation, too. I had tried everything from diet, supplements, reiki, energy, and all of the things. And it wasn’t working and meditation for years and all of these things. And sure I could change my pain a bit, but my body was not healing. So I’d say that’s the average person that does come to me. Now, I’ll show results even under medical equipment so it really varies a lot the type of person that might see me.
For pain, I like to demonstrate healing under medical equipment. Basically, for me personally, I know I would’ve thought it was impossible to heal. And then even once I knew it was possible, it still took over five or six years to do it because I couldn’t figure it out; it didn’t make logical sense. And I was trying all of the things: the beliefs, the affirmations, the frequencies, the Reiki, all of the things.
So, I would say that when I work with people, I tend to meet them where they are, but a lot of what I’ve been doing in the past year has really been about showing results under medical equipment. And so I would say I work with somebody and help them radically shift their mindset to then get their body into a state of healing.
Johnny Burke: You mentioned the medical equipment a few times. I believe it has something to do with thermal imaging, where you can actually see the results and satisfy the scientific types out there that think, well, I think it might be true, and you might have evidence, but I need to see something tangible. So how do you do that?
Brandy Gillmore: It is medical thermography. Absolutely. And a simple way to describe it is, let’s say, somebody has some type of injury or infection or sprained ankle or something like that. As we know, illness emits a type of heat from the body, pain, illness, infection, all of that. And medical thermal imaging detects this heat at a very advanced level. And so if somebody has, like, for example, neck pain. You’ll see on the medical thermal imaging, the images are red all over the neck area. And what I’ve been able to do is then coach people to use their own minds. And in real-time, you’ll see as their pain goes down, the scan changes too.
And what’s great is you can see it’s not just belief. It’s not just placebo analgesia; there’s real changes that are taking place. What’s also really great about it is I know that during my injury, I thought I was doing all the right things. In the middle of it, I was meditating and affirmation, like all of the energy, all of that, and I was waiting, and I kept feeling like I was just waiting for my body to heal. And so what’s fascinating is that even those people who do know, Hey, we can do this. It helps you see we can do it a lot faster than we really think. And that’s another thing that’s beautiful is that we can see the power of our own minds.
Johnny Burke: What I think is interesting about energy work, energy healing, reiki, and so forth, is that many of the people follow an intuitive path, and some become mediums and that type of thing. It’s often because they have tried every traditional way of healing, which did not work. And then they choose to go to a healer, an energy worker, or something like that, and the world just opens up for them. Do you find the same thing in your circle and the people that you talk with?
Brandy Gillmore: I would say we’re all connected. I like to call it universal Wi-Fi, just like our cell phones are all connected to Wi-Fi or cell towers or computers, cell towers, and Wi-Fi. We’re all connected, right?
Johnny Burke: I’m going to steal that. I’m not going to tell anybody where I got it from. But what I’m getting at is once you kind of discovered this world and you saw that we can actually see energy change with what you’ve described as a heat map. Did that open up any other kinds of intuitive experiences or abilities?
Brandy Gillmore: This is what I would say -we’re all connected to universal Wi-Fi, and the more that we clear out our minds, the more that we can hear and connect with it. And so what I would say is, is that yes, absolutely. I see people all the time; I’ve worked with them, and then, as they heal themselves, they start to develop abilities. Maybe at first, they start to get chill bumps when something like there’s some type of hit, or they start to feel their mom around them who’s maybe crossed over. Like there are different things open up. And that was my experience. After I healed myself, I started feeling what other people felt, and I could feel good or bad, and I had to kind of go, okay, well wait a second, let me gauge this, let me shift this. So, what I do is I’ll check into people’s energy to just help them, to help them heal or release blocks, and to understand how the mind-body connection works.
Johnny Burke: Right. The reason I asked that is that you mentioned something about reading energy, and I’ve also noticed that again, when people heal, and they heal trauma, they cure it as it were, then in some cases, those. Even psychic abilities start to come to the surface.
Brandy Gillmore: Yeah.
Johnny Burke: I’ve heard it more than once.
Brandy Gillmore: I would say it’s kind of like if we’re in a crowded restaurant. If you’re on one side and I’m on the other, we might have a hard time hearing each other, but if we clear it out now, we can hear each other just fine. And so when I was saying everybody’s kind of connected to universal wifi, that the more that we clear out the mind, the more we go, oh, okay. I can hear the universe more clearly. I can see more clearly because the rest of the chaos in the brain and even in the subconscious mind, can create static that then interferes with what we’re hearing or seeing. So we don’t have the same level of clarity also.
Johnny Burke: So the more we heal, the more we can access universal Wi-Fi. We don’t have to go to the crappy Wi-Fi that’s in Panera Bread or something. Right?
Brandy Gillmore: Exactly. No more crappy Wi-Fi. That’s the whole reason you want to heal.
Johnny Burke: No more crappy Wi-Fi. Right.
Brandy Gillmore: Another way to say it is kind of like you think about somebody who’s really, really, really, really upset, like if a woman walks in, she’s really, really upset and you try to reason with her, how does it go? Probably not so well, but if she calms down, how does it go to reason with her? A lot better. She can hear more, and she’s more receptive. Now, if we take our subconscious mind and we call them other patterns that go on, then we have an even greater and greater receptivity to information, and I would say that’s ultimately the key, yeah, I think we’re just, we’re all connected to universal wifi more than we realize.
Johnny Burke: That’s definitely good to know. Speaking of being connected, what do you think are the main misconceptions about healing? Like mind-body healing that might keep people stuck or might prevent you from getting results, like you said before? Before, you were talking about meditation and waiting for the healing to take place.
Brandy Gillmore: I would say one is this; one is belief. Like, a lot of times, people just believe they’ll feel like you just have to believe, and you see yourself healthy. and, of course, I tried that for years, and it wasn’t working. And it was interesting because, you know, many people believe that belief works just because the placebo, if you believe it’s going to work, it does.
And yet, on my journey, I found something called the Open-label placebo, which is just like it sounds: it is open-label. So both the doctor and the patient both know it’s fake and it can still work. That was an eye-opener. I think another thing is this: a lot of times, people will say, well, you just have to increase your energy.
However, research studies actually show that, for example, increased anger can actually increase your energy emissions. So it’s not just about increasing your energy. Another one has to do with a lot of people thinking energy is just woo-woo. And what’s fascinating is this: there was a medical scientist back in the early 1920s, Alexander Gurwitsch, who discovered that biological organisms emit light energy. So we all are emitting light energy. When he first discovered it, he called it mitogenic radiation, but he was nominated for a Nobel Prize 11 times and even won a similar Nobel Prize in Russia. So that’s our body’s emitting energy.
Fast-forward to the present day. A database under the NASA agreement also has current modern-day studies about the body’s energy and biophotons in it. So it’s funny because a lot of mainstream collective consciousness is that energy is just woo-woo and a concept. And yet it’s scientifically proven. There are tests on it. So I would say that. There are so many misconceptions about energy and how it works.
Johnny Burke: Since you’re talking about energy and misconceptions, I think we’re just scratching the surface where people can actually see that it is tangible. This is just the beginning. I think it’s only a matter of time before the scientific types are not going to be able to deny it anymore, because I’ve heard this so many times. Everything is energy; everything is connected, oneness, Right?
Brandy Gillmore: it’s different types. There’s a difference between an electron and a proton neutron and light energy. So when everybody says everything is energy. Yes and light energy is a different thing as well . It’s kind of like this. Carbs and carbohydrates give us energy in the body. And so do fats. Fats are healthy, they give us energy and fuel for the body. And yet light energy is a different type of energy. and what’s happening is this; the fascinating thing is there are actual medical research studies. Some studies show that the energy and biophoton emissions from somebody with type two diabetes are different than those of somebody who doesn’t have type two diabetes or somebody with cancer. Cancer cells emit different biophoton emissions than non-cancer cells.
To explain biophotons for a second, a simple way to think about it as like this; if we think about a light bulb, it emits particles of light or the sun emits particles of light. Our bodies emit particles of light, which initially were called mitogenetic radiation, but now is referred to as biophotons. These biophotons have been medically tested and are fascinating. Like, research suggests that they communicate homeostasis through the body. Research. Suggests that they communicate a lot of other information. Research has shown a direct correlation between EEG brain activity and biophoton emissions. There are studies that show that somebody who’s visualizing white light can have increased biophoton emissions out of the right side of their head but not the left. I mean, there’s all of these medical studies that are showing biophoton emissions and also showing the correlation between health and biophoton emissions as well.
Johnny Burke: Light energy, is that possibly related to what is described as Tesla energy?
Brandy Gillmore: We could call it Tesla, or aura energy. Light energy. The energy of the body. So even if we look at reiki energy, for example. Research has actually shown in fish eggs when they have the energy from one to another. This light energy can actually increase cellular proliferation. So it can increase and technically it can increase healing and it can also decrease healing. Even from plants, plant roots, onion roots,. This light energy can directly impact cellular proliferation- how fast cells grow and divide or even cause them to distort and be damaged.
Johnny Burke: With your experience, you were apparently able to channel information. Is that true?
Brandy Gillmore: Yes.
Johnny Burke: Channeling opens up a whole new world, maybe even a whole new galaxy for all I know. In that world did you see different types of beings or colors or what was that like?
Brandy Gillmore: I don’t experience it channeling like that for me. So what happens is a few things. Like if I ask a question, you’ll notice like my voice either bingo comes through or Yes or let me see. So hold on. So if I said yes, you’ll notice that different voice. So I can ask different questions and I’ll just get a channel that comes through that then brings that through. But a lot of times what I’m doing, because a lot of my work has been focused on healing, what I’ll do is I will channel information, but then I’m also checking in to understand the mindset of a person, what’s going on in their subconscious mind, their conscious mind, and the energy from their body. And then I’m helping to align their mind with healing. And a lot of it’s through emotions. So basically, saying, okay, well maybe this person has this emotion of guilt and then anger and shifting that creates healing in the body. A lot of what I’m doing is, getting information to help a person to create a change and feeling what they’re feeling, if that makes sense.
Johnny Burke: It does. is that the same thing as what you call motion control consciousness, or is that something different?
Brandy Gillmore: Emotion control consciousness is different.
Johnny Burke: So it’s not like you’re channeling a group of light beings, it’s a different type of channeling because I hear lots of different, I don’t like to call them stories, but, you know, accounts of, intergalactic beings and things like that. So it’s not like you’ve had that kind of experience, or did you?
Brandy Gillmore: Have I had those experiences? Yes. And because a lot of my passion is making sure, you know, I was injured wheelchair walker King for almost seven years. So, a lot of my focus is on proving and showing people we can heal. So can I do that? Yes. Can I connect with guides? Yes. A lot of times, I skip guides, and I just access divine. So divine, source, God, mother, whatever you want to call it. A lot of times I’m just asking information that’s very. specific about creating a radical change. So I would say yes. I just don’t do it that often.
Johnny Burke: It comes up a lot. I’m hearing more and more about intergalactic beings these days. It sounds like most of them are friendly beings. Now, in your experience, do you ever encounter any being that is not friendly?
Brandy Gillmore: I have not personally, but that’s not my energetic vibration to do. It’s kind of like the same in the earth plane. I don’t attract a lot of people that are negative. I tend to attract heartfelt, conscious people. And I would say similarly in the energetic world as well.
I healed myself and I thought I’ve got to be able to show others how to do this. Then I started showing it and then doing it under medical equipment. Then I did my TED talk, and so my point is I’ve spent a lot of my, time trying to normalize channeling and normalize healing with the mind and normalize energy because part of me feels like the more that we can normalize it, that we can realize that we’re all connected to universal Wi-Fi, the more we can all become that. So connecting with a lot of different beings
Johnny Burke: So, with your findings, research, and your whole experience, do you suppose that what you’re doing, your work can support other phenomena in the quantum world? As we said before, everything is energy. Energy does not die. Consciousness survives and everything’s connected.
Brandy Gillmore: Absolutely. I think this is what’s fun I’ve seen, I’ve had so many people, men, women, but go through like my course and they heal themselves from this, that the other. And then they say, ‘my husband didn’t believe in it, or my wife didn’t believe in it. But now she read your book, and energy makes sense. And now she’s so excited about energy.” And my point is the more that every single person can open up their mind and awareness to energy, in so many different ways, the more that we can all go there, and I think the more that everybody is open to expanding their minds, the more it creates a shift in consciousness for our planet.
Johnny Burke: And a shift in consciousness, makes me think of if we all did this, raising our vibe, opening up to the awareness, really boosting that universal Wi-Fi that you spoke about, could it be that we won’t need phones anymore to actually communicate with other people? We can just do it through the mind?
Brandy Gillmore: I love that you asked that question. I actually refer to cell phones as training wheels for ESP. I would say that we’re used to then being able to connect with people on the other side of the world. And I would absolutely say that there’s going to be a time when we don’t need the training wheels anymore. And that we all have this ability, kind of like as you’re riding your bike as a kid and somebody takes the training wheels off and you realize, oh my gosh, you’re doing this by yourself. I would say that we will be headed there as we evolve.
Johnny Burke: I like that. Besides the, the thermal imaging that you use in your work, what else in your research represents the biggest breakthrough?
Brandy Gillmore: What else? obviously, I see incredible healing results. I’ve seen people go from bedridden to running and flying around the world. And not that people are flying, but in an airplane, I’m like, people fly after this. No. but, uh, flying in an airplane, and I would say that I would say opening the mind. One of the things that I’m known for is being able to show people back-to-back where to take one after another and show people how to release pain or create a change in their physical body. That is profound in itself because I think that to create a real shift in consciousness, a shift in our health and awareness what do we need? We need to understand it. And we need to be able to get consistent results. And I think that the more that we can do that, the more profound it is because that’s when we can create a shift. When we know why it’s happening.
Johnny Burke: Hopefully, when that shift does take place, for some reason, I’m thinking about an office building, like it’s a medical building, but it’s all alternative therapy. There are energy healers, regression specialists, hypnotherapists, and shamans on call, and now that might seem kind of farfetched, but do you see that happening? Maybe not in this decade, but sometime in the future.?
Brandy Gillmore: So I would say yes. I mean, I live in LA already, so we already have like a,
Johnny Burke: I used to live there. I know exactly what you’re talking about.
Brandy Gillmore: The other thing, though, is really my hope is that every single person becomes empowered. So yes, while we have those things that everybody realizes that we have our own ability, because it’s like, if something’s wrong with your car a person might take it to the shop to go get it fixed, but ultimately, we all have a brain. We all think; our minds help control our lives and our health and our happiness and our love and our everything. Everything. And I think that the more that every single person is empowered, the more every single person can connect with universal Wi-Fi, the more that everybody has this gift . That’s my hope Is really moving towards that. But yes, do I think that we’ll have centers like that? For sure.
Johnny Burke: I’m imagining it right now. I can see what the windows look like, and I know that your office is in there or it will be in there at some point. Excellent stuff.
Brandy Gillmore: I actually worked in a little bit similar of an office several years ago where there was the chiropractor, the energy worker, the esthetician, the, yeah.
Johnny Burke: it’s already happening. At least, it’s beginning to shift in that direction. So anything else that we need to know, at least for tonight?
Brandy Gillmore: we can get faster results than we think we can, and it does take real change. It really does. But even the awareness that somebody with multiple personality disorder can actually have different illnesses in different personalities. If we look at it kind of in a grounded way, we can see the change, or we know stress affects the physical body or the awareness that our minds shift energy and biophotons. And so whatever way we want to look at it, our minds are incredible and my hope is just whatever that every single person just starts really embracing the power and understanding really how to get results.
Johnny Burke: You can heal faster, no doubt. All right. Brandy, thanks again for coming onto the program. Great stuff, very practical information for those who are looking for different ways to heal. in the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?
Brandy Gillmore: You can find me on Instagram or on my website:brandygillmore.com . On my website, there’s also a video that says, “See live healing,” where you see me working with people with a person under medical equipment., which can be a really powerful visual