#61 Shamanism and The Afterlife with Sadhu Dah
January 28th, 2022
Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest has Sadhu Dah, he is a shaman of indigenous practices from Thailand an initiated Lama in Tibetan Bonpo, and a Wiccan high priest. Today, we are going to be talking about the afterlife soul retrieval and the science behind the magic. Sadhu, welcome to the program.
Sadhu Dah: Thanks for having me.
Johnny Burke: You have quite a few designations; shaman, Wiccan High Priest, Lama in Tibetan Bonpo . What actually came first.?
Sadhu Dah: the first thing that actually came was the Wiccan high priest title. That was my first, actual. Professional title of any kind. When I started down this path and then it just kind of branched into other things. The titles aren’t necessarily as important as knowing that at some point, traditions tend to blend together by certain principles. In all forms of magic, we’re just creating quantum templates and then manifesting from the subconscious.
Johnny Burke: Now you mentioned quantum templates. I’ve never heard that term before. What exactly is that?
Sadhu Dah: A quantum template, in simple terms would be think of how a life force itself works and operates. A cell is going to regenerate. The natural order of things is to heal, renew and grow. Even from decay- a flower dying. Well, that becomes nutrients for the soil, that becomes food for bacteria and things of that nature. So it’s this constant cycle. And this also relates with the Bardo concept. What you’re doing is you’re imprinting in that transition. That transition is outside of the fourth dimension, but it’s bridged through the subconscious, into the fourth dimension, it imprints on the quantum field. And then that becomes a template. So you co-create a new reality. You’re not imposing your will on the universe. Then once it manifests back through the subconscious and comes into this new reality, the reality that we’re co-creating with, that’s a quantum template.
Johnny Burke: Regarding the fourth dimension, which I don’t really hear a lot of when we talk about dimensions and densities, it’s either the third or the fifth. Now what you’re talking about, does that have anything to do with the transition from the third density to the fifth density, which I think many people do want to get to.
Sadhu Dah: The fourth dimension in itself is a dimension accessed from the mental plane. actually have to use thought we have to use mental energy to pierce into the fourth dimension. You can’t travel there physically, just the same as other dimensions. That’s why our third dimension has a physical base dimension. But the reality is, when you’re accessing the fourth dimension, it’s a lot of feeling navigation through sensations. Color and vibration in your, conscious experience.
What I do sometimes is called the Swan Dive. It’s a technique when I get into mirror neuron rapport with a client. If I’m doing a hypnosis session, and their psyche is just fractured or even like in a soul retrieval session. If they are just so damaged, they cannot communicate with me, or they’re in a seizure like state and their neurology is just fried. Once I bridge my trauma with their trauma, I’m using that as a connection point. So I’m experiencing the highs and lows that they’re feeling. That’s fourth dimension connection right there. Our neurons are literally connected. Now, are they physically bridged together? No, not at all. That would be some kind of weird science experiment, but we’re actually in heart coherence through the EMF field of the heart, which has been measured, and in connecting, you’re able to kind of bridge your consciousness with theirs, and that’s a fourth dimensional aspect of connection.
Johnny Burke: Regarding hypnosis, those kinds of sessions that you conduct, is that a past life regression or was it something completely different?
Sadhu Dah: It really depends because what we’re doing in hypnosis is we’re doing a session where we’re doing a past life regression we’ll, then we’re going to the Akashic hall of records, but we still need to use the subconscious mind to activate the energy body, to allow us to travel in that sense consciously. Most of the time, people come to me for trauma regression. so we’re going after these specific memories and things that are affecting them in a very negative way. And we’re learning to rewrite the neurology and dissolve those trauma containers and vent, so that we can rewrite that subconscious program into a healthier expression/
Johnny Burke: so it’s not quite a past life regression, but it’s more of an Akashic records reading or an Akashic Records access point.
Sadhu Dah: You could definitely say that. It would have to be broken down to, do you want the Western explanation? or do you want the Eastern explanation? They’re both going to sound different.
Johnny Burke: It seems like a lot of these modalities do travel to the same destination, whether it’s a Kundalini Awakening or a past life regression or an Akashic records reading. With this path that you’re on, what prompted you to follow it- what was the influence?
Sadhu Dah: The influence for me was being absolutely sick and tired of life. Before I really went on the spiritual path, I absolutely hated everybody. And I hated myself and that wasn’t serving me. Once I started to experience different types of meditations, I had an actual experience that shocked me. That’s when I started to get more into some of the different practices from various traditions, and then one day I kind of woke up and I couldn’t tell you where exactly it happened, but I was present. I was aware my anger was gone. I actually could comprehend peace, and it was strange because it was a word that was so foreign to me. I knew what the word peace meant, but I had never actually felt peace in my life.
Johnny Burke: Let let’s talk about shamanism, and what the connection is with the Wicca . Shamanism, the way it was explained to me is that in the very early pre-Christian tradition, shamanism and mysticism, were beliefs or practices that have been suppressed, during our history time and time again. What attracted you to that as opposed to. more conventional religions and practices and so on.
Sadhu Dah: Mysticism and shamanism are intrinsically paired together, but they are actually very different things. Mysticism is more of the internal path working, more of the yen expression, whereas shamanism and really any sort of magical practice, regardless of if its religion based or not, these are external or more yang centered expressions. What drew me to shamanism was the fact that it wasn’t necessarily structured in a very strict way, but there were rules to it. Shamanism at its core in the simplest explanation is just sympathetic magic. We’re using objects like herbs, things from the earth, ideas and thoughts that energy is placed into and channeled into representations of things. You could literally do magic in a shamanistic fashion with q tip. So for me, it was just the creativity, the playfulness, and the profound depth that shamanism offered.
Johnny Burke: During a shamanic journey with your clients, is it fairly common to encounter energies, ancestors, maybe past lives and things that are obviously not in the current life of you or the client?
Sadhu Dah: Of course, everything is energy, everything Is light. That’s why when we do an energy healing and we’re working with a client, there are certain components of their genetic history, their DNA, that is going to come forth and express itself and try to communicate because it’s aligning with the vibratory shifts of what you’re bringing. So your energy that you’re channeling and introducing certain things are going to be interested by that. If I have a specific goal and purpose of what I’m trying to do, it doesn’t matter if you’re a great, great, great, great grandfather comes forward and is trying to convey a message. I’m here to do some trauma healing or absolve a soul contract, something of that nature or do soul retrieval. No disrespect or no offense, but I don’t care what your great, great, great something has to give me in that moment. I’m doing work. I’m doing something.
Johnny Burke: When you mentioned an ancestor or someone from a past life, someone who lived a long time ago, that reminds me of a reading with a medium. There’s a connection between mediumship and shamanism and even past life regression for that matter. If someone’s got an issue and they’re trying to resolve it, what are the reasons why someone would choose to go to a shaman as opposed to going to my therapist, who does past life regression?
Sadhu Dah: In the first civilizations, and especially in many indigenous cultures still today, the shamans were the pinnacle of their community before they’re ever were therapists . They were the most respected and admired. They would prepare people for battle back when war was a thing. They would not only prepare, but they would also give the last rights and put the soul to rest.
One of the things that’s different, a therapist is going to specialize in one area and a shaman has that wider spectrum of awareness because he’s one with the spirit world, because he walks, within the other dimensions. Whereas a therapist who specializes in like past life regression or something of that nature, they might just kind of be touching the curtails of it, but they’re not immersed in it because their practices are not as such like a shaman would be.
Johnny Burke: A, previous guest brought up an expression called the empathic big bang; an explosion of mediums , empaths, intuitives. And those who are aligned with shamanistic beliefs. Why do you suppose that’s happening now?
- Sadhu Dah: My understanding that has to do with a universal consciousness. shift . We’re experiencing shifts not just a solar system aspect, but in the consciousness aspect of humanity as a whole. What does the Institute of Heart math was able to measure using a squid based technology. The squid-based technology is an electrocardiogram that’s able to measure the magnetic resonance, of the heart field. That consistent output of this energy is being shared with everybody in your day-to-day life that you come and interact with. If we’re getting shifts in a global consciousness, that’s going to raise everyone naturally. And Some people will run from it. Some people will embrace it.
Johnny Burke: Some people will run after it. The idea of the concept of heart math reminds me of what someone brought up recently, which is the great year concept, which is a theory that if you could put it on a graph, it goes in cycles, it peaks, and it has valleys. Almost as if you’re looking at a chart of the stock market, and apparently now we are coming off of a bottom. I hope. what are your thoughts on that? Is that related to the big bang and the consciousness shift that I think we are seeing at the moment?
Sadhu Dah: Well, it’s kind of like a pulse. we’re so used to a certain rhythm or a certain beat, but that doesn’t mean it’s the beginning, the middle or the end of the song or the vibration, merely it is where we are at and where we are transitioning to. And so right now we’re kind of experiencing this increase that many of us are not familiar with. You see a lot of talk about star seeds and it’s not for me to say if these children and these newer generations, hail from another dimension or another planet, that isn’t really as important as there is a higher level of consciousness, presence, and awareness that is being just naturally born with these children. They’re coming out of the womb with a higher consciousness than most people go 50, 60 years, their whole life never even experiencing.
Johnny Burke: They’re already there as kids.
Sadhu Dah: Yes. So that’s going to affect the planet all on its own. Just a whole generation of children that are naturally playing at a higher level of consciousness.
Johnny Burke: It seems to be aligned with talk of Ascension and, the medium explosion and the Empath big bang, the moving away from the masculine to the feminine energy. It all seems to be on the same roadmap. Your philosophies, between the Wicca and shamanism, your view of the afterlife, has it changed or is it pretty much the same?
Sadhu Dah: it’s changed entirely. I never really gave a lot of thought to the afterlife when I was young. But then the more that I’ve become practiced and experienced in this type of work. I do a lot of crossing over of spirits, cleansing of places, energies entities, et cetera. I’ve just become deeply intimate with the other side. One of the things that I’ve noticed is within the 72 hours of physical body extinguished, the spirit is collecting the last remnants of prana and energy. in that period has a chance to enter The Bardo and where it goes through this 21-day period where it’s kind of the soul judging itself. But what’s really interesting is after that you crossover and you die a second death, so that spiritual body then dies. Then we go into the aspects of reincarnation, heaven, realms, hell realms, et cetera. Or you literally miss your bus ride, and you end up stuck in the Astral. And then
Johnny Burke: That’s pretty scary.
Sadhu Dah: It’s insane because, there is an exit . But you can miss the exit. It’s not So structured in the sense of you go to heaven or hell, or this is your afterlife. But you can slip through the cracks. That’s freaking scary but exciting at the same time.
Johnny Burke: what happens when you slipped through the cracks, what is your ticket out You make it sound like almost like a bus pass or a transfer or something
Sadhu Dah: you have to evolve. You have to adapt and evolve in that spiritual realm that you are caught in limbo of.
And it could go either way, you can go up or you could go down.
Johnny Burke: You mentioned soul retrieval before, is that related or is that something that calls for a soul retrieval or is that something completely different?
Sadhu Dah: We’re speaking about a dead person; it wouldn’t be a soul retrieval cause the soul retrieval plays to the fractured psyche and soul shards of that individual and bringing those back home. When we have an individual who is lost in the Astral, or in various different exit points and access through the Astral , things get pretty weird. We need to essentially put their spirit to rest. Or actually activate my loud gong points in the center of my palms. I will reach into that space where I feel the ripples of that spirit whether it’s like a residual echo from that land or place, I will then tap into that vibration. I will pull that spirit into this dimension. Then I will say these sacred mantras that are going to align it to a higher vibration, and then I let it cross through. What happens from there I couldn’t honestly tell you, because at that point I’m passing it on to these higher dimensional entities and beings that some would call like angels or gods.
Johnny Burke: or spirit guides
Sadhu Dah: Exactly. The bottom line is they’re going to take over and they’re going to help that spirit and that spirit is no longer lost. They’re in good hands.
Johnny Burke: so in layman’s terms, when there’s a troubled spirit that falls through the cracks you enlist the help of spirit guides and angels to help this entity keep going on their path, is that the correct way to explain it ?
Sadhu Dah: Yeah, exactly, I’m merely facilitating their ride.
Johnny Burke: Right.
Sadhu Dah: I’m not the Uber, but I’m the Uber app. If that makes sense.
Johnny Burke: How do you sense this troubled spirit in the first place? How do you detect it?
Sadhu Dah: I feel it. For example, let’s say you’re in a room and there’s a fan blowing. Does anyone need to tell you the fan is blowing, or can you feel it? Can you hear it? Can you see it?
Johnny Burke: Okay, good. So, you mentioned the second death. What separates the Bardo from the Astral plane or are they actually the same thing?
Sadhu Dah: So think of the Bardo. As kind of like a train station similar to the river Styx. This is kind of like the way station. It’s not the actual river itself. So when you go into the Bardo you’re entering this space that is essentially within your own soul. You will go on this little boat ride with the River Styx . So the Bardo leads to the river Styx .
The reality is, you’re, you’re going to a place of essentially void within yourself and then how you are shaped, how you process and deal with that. You come out. And then your soul will naturally be guided and taken to like an exit point for other dimensions, reincarnation, soul slumber, higher realms, et cetera.
Johnny Burke: Okay. Now, you mentioned soul contracts earlier and also something, about the hall doors how are the hall doors related to the soul contracts? And for that matter reincarnation?
Sadhu Dah: The Hall of Doors was the term that was given to this technique and the technique, essentially, you’re wrapping the body in white light, charging it up to a very high vibratory level for protection, and then you’re astral projecting. And then you come into this space, and I’ve done this with so many people. And when they get to the Hall of Doors , it’s like a massive library. You can pretty much access anything from there. And this is the, Akashic hall of records.
Johnny Burke: That’s what I thought.
Sadhu Dah: I’m taking you to a specific part of the Akashic hall of records. So the hall doors are the section where these doors are laid out on rails and they’re just kind of everywhere, stacked in front of each other on top of each other, all over the place. It’s kind similar. We go to the door that is either needed as far as approach and healing, which could be from countless other past lives. All these doors are representative of a life that you have lived. I’ve never met anyone that had just a few doors. There’s usually just countless doors. Inside of that same area, there’s this like atrium that we can go to where there’s this giant book.
This book is basically every agreement, every promise, every feeling of, I need to do this. It’s pretty much the essence of who you are and what binds you to who you are. That is what we can go and rewrite. And in a Western sense, we’re so deep in the subconscious that we’re bordering the unconscious mind, and we’re literally just rewriting synaptic protocols and purging old programs out of the neurology and rewriting new ones and putting them in place. But on an Eastern level, we would say that we’re rewriting soul contract. Both are correct.
Johnny Burke: So rewriting soul contracts. Since we’re on that subject, as well as reincarnation, how does your work relate to the life between lives concept, which was made popular by Dr. Michael Newton? What is your experience with that realm?
Sadhu Dah: So actual life between next life?
Johnny Burke: Right. Which means when you’re in that in between space, let’s say I die from this life., I talk to the Elders or my spirit guides and I’m asked, how do you think he did? And from that point, I decided there’s things I need to work on, and I want to go back and this body, which is going to help me spiritually evolve, and the people- soul family, we’re going to make agreements. You’re going to be this. You’re going to be that. And by the time we go back, we forget all that when we incarnate again. Within the framework of your beliefs, does it work the same way or is it a little bit different?
Sadhu Dah: Well, one of the things I found really interesting that master Thanaphol Pakdee taught me, he was explaining to me that in some of these heaven realms, these beings live for, just a couple years. and so I asked him, they are thousands and thousands of years old, how are they only living for a couple years? He’s like, well, you’re not understanding, how long an actual day is for them and the way the time works in those kinds of dimensions. the way he explained it, a hundred thousand years here on this planet and some of these heaven realms is literally just one day over there. Their experience of that day is much, much longer than our experience of the day. When we die and some of us choose to go up to some of these higher realms and we have a small conversation, in traveling up there in that heaven realm, by the time you come back, reincarnate, it’s been anywhere from nine to 90 years. Just in that small space, so much time here on this planet has passed.
Johnny Burke: And, and also your experience of the hall doors, you’ve never seen an instance where there were just a couple doors, which is consistent with what many people have said that we’ve lived hundreds hundred, if not thousands of lives in the past
Sadhu Dah: I’ve never met a brand-new soul. It’s just never
Johnny Burke: it’s interesting. So all these different philosophies of the afterlife, which is based on real experience, near-death experiences, Akashic records readings, shamanic journeys. It all seems to point to an afterlife and in-between space and a reincarnation cycle, does it not?
Sadhu Dah: I don’t think that reincarnation could be argued against, because if you do research, you’re going to find just overwhelming amounts of evidence. find it hard to believe that people don’t believe in reincarnation.
Johnny Burke: I do as well. I had someone on the show recently that talked about the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson. He had about 2,500 cases of children that remembered past lives. And in about 1500 of those cases, they were able to not only find. the past life family, but that child would actually meet them and tell them things. He could have never known including family secrets. And this is back in the sixties and seventies when we didn’t have Google. if that isn’t enough to convince you that there’s such a thing as past lives. I don’t know what will.
Sadhu Dah: there’s countless cases. one of my favorites was, this boy in India he was five or six years old, and he would tell his parents. that he had drowned and that somebody had murdered him, and they never found his body. This boy, they brought him to the police, and the boy was able to actually pinpoint and show the spot an area where his dead body from his past life was, and was able to identify. And they actually were able to find the man, and they didn’t convict him through the reincarnation testimony, but they convicted him through DNA and they were able to prove like, yo, this guy actually killed this man.
Johnny Burke: Amazing.
Sadhu Dah: Somehow this little boy was able to identify a man was murdered here and knew who did it. And we were able to prove it with DNA and forensics. What else can You say about that?
Johnny Burke: You can’t. How do you argue that? How else did he know? There’s thousands of cases just like that. let’s talk a little bit about spirit crossing because I think it’s an important subject where people really want to know what happens to me when I die? Am I going to fade to black? Am I going to be reborn? What happens? How do you approach a spirit crossing? Is there any similarity to a mediumship reading?
Sadhu Dah: So with a mediumship reading, I wouldn’t call it possession. I would call it a deep level of rapport, where they kind of feel, the emotions and the energy of the spirit and end up being able to channel messages. What I’m doing is different in the sense of I’m aware of what’s going on with this spirit. I’m choosing not to feel that and envelop that energy in my body, but I can see that it’s suffering, or I can see it’s bored, or it’s happy or whatever gamut of emotion it’s experiencing. So I’m able to identify the state that it’s in. If it’s an echo, like an imprint, a residual haunting, or if it’s conscious and sentient, if it’s become a Wraith, a corrupted human soul.
So I can identify the state it’s in how it’s doing and then decide from there, do you want to cross over if you don’t want to cross over, what is it that you feel like you need to resolve? So, let’s say grandma wants to say goodbye to her grandkids. I will facilitate that and energetically help that spirit to say those goodbyes and then we’ll cross grandma over.
Johnny Burke: Now this reminds me of what is commonly called a deathbed vision. When my mom passed, I think it was a day or two before, she was actually talking to my grandfather who died years before I was even born. And she was saying things like, “, daddy, can I have some more wine?” I’ve also been told that some of our guardian angels are some of our relatives who have passed. And when you bring up lost souls as you did before, people that literally fall through the cracks, do you think there are enough of the guardian angels and the spirits that help them cross over, so no one gets left behind?
Sadhu Dah: No, and that is something that people don’t like to hear. It is sad, but the reality is that not every soul is held accountable for. So the Vietnamese use this term Quan, which is the whole, and the individual parts of a soul and having conscious of where it is within each part of that. And so you can actually have somebody that crossed over, but when they died that second death, that spiritual sliver of energy that’s left over has memory. So they’re interacting with this unconscious autonomous program., it’ll act just like grandpa, or it’ll act just like your mom, and it is them, but it’s also not them. It is literally what you knew about them. It is their personality, their ego innocence. It is the shirt, but it is not the person wearing the shirt. It’s still alive, it’s still energy.
Johnny Burke: that reminds me of this discussion last week, where this woman called those entities the Great Mimicker. It captures the vibrations of people you might’ve known. This kind of stuff is something that’s way over my head. I don’t know whether that’s really true or not, it does sound familiar.
So, humanity, it sounds to me that we still have some work to do because we don’t want anyone to be left behind. Hopefully there will be more of an army of angels and, hopefully the empathic big bang will help helped to cure that.
Speaking of the explosion of empaths and so on, what are the main takeaways, for the spiritual seeker?
Sadhu Dah: Everyone did is going on this spiritual path needs to have a sadhana, a daily spiritual practice. And. What is going to constitute as a true sadhana has to do three things. That is you need to cleanse the energy. You need to cultivate the energy and you need to ground the energy.
If you do a Vipassana practice, you know, certain, prana breathing protocols, breathwork is great. I have a lot of stuff that people can find on my website for free resources on building this Sadhana.
Johnny Burke: Sadhu thanks so much for joining us. Speaking of your website, how can people find you online?
Sadhu Dah: That’s going to be www.thesahdudah.com