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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Auriel Williams. She is an intuitive guide, deep space astrologer, and author of 5D Ordinary Descriptions of An Extraordinary Shift. Today we will be talking about our collective quantum leap into the fifth-dimension consciousness, also known as new earth and ascension. Auriel, welcome to the program.

Aureal Willams: Thank you, Johnny. It’s great to be here with you and all of your listeners.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. What is 5D exactly, and how did you discover this realm?

Aureal Willams: 5D is the fifth dimension and it’s reflected in an evolutionary shift into our highest consciousness that we’ve ever had as a history of humanity. We’ve gone through when we were the caveman all the way through to our consciousness now, and we’re making. The biggest leap that we have ever made. It’s evolutionary, it’s happening for humans. It’s happening for our earth; it’s happening for our cosmos. It’s a shift in consciousness like at the time of the Renaissance where we’re waking up to the full capacity of being human.

Johnny Burke: So is that a shift from what is often described as 3D to five D?

Aureal Willams: That’s exactly right Johnny. Yeah. 4D is about time. In 3D time is linear; past, present, and future are in a straight line, basically in 5D all of those are one. It’s seamless, and we go beyond time. The Industrial Revolution did a job on us where they imprinted man as a machine, those robber barons, and all of the industrial revolution barons. They moved from farming to factories, they did a job on people and our consciousness about having to operate as a machine and we’re moving out of that consciousness and as we do, we open up to the fuller experience of time as non-linear.

Johnny Burke: Okay. You are an intuitive guide and a deep-space astrologer as well. How did you get started on your path? And again, how did you actually discover what five D even is?

Aureal Willams: I’m a boomer and in the sixties there was this song, The Age of Aquarius, by the group, The Fifth Dimension.

Johnny Burke: I had older brothers and sisters. I’m very familiar

Aureal Willams: Yes, exactly. And you cannot make this up. It was so serendipitous that this group called the fifth Dimension sings this song about the age of Aquarius, and I really invite your readers to look up the lyrics, do a Google search and bring that song up. And I happen to be an Aquarius, that’s a sun sign. So I have that imprint of going forward of the new age. I was always a hippie. I was always interested in the integration of holistic health and natural remedies and being your own healer. So that was always my thing.

But when I heard that song, even though I was young, like 18 or so. It imprinted something and I’ve always been going forward to this time. That’s how I basically got started. I knew it was coming.

And then in the eighties, in 1987, on August 16th and 17th, there was a worldwide event, and this is some three or four years before the internet.

It was the Harmonic Convergence. And Dr. Jose Arguelles who was the expert on the Mayan calendar, facilitated a worldwide gathering and people around the world went to the power spots or the nature spots in their community .

I was living in Rochester, New York at the time, and we went to a place near Canandaigua Lake, and we spread wildflower seeds and we did a ritual and we just connected on an energetic heart level with people from around the world and again, before the internet. So this was a big deal. So that was the harmonic convergence we knew. Something big was coming, and that was 1987. Then there was 1995 and 1997, 2000, 2002, 2005, and we get to 2012. I’ve tracked all of those and just moved along. There are many names for this. Many people call it the New Earth. Many people call it the Ascension. It’s definitely the shift that is happening that is waking us up.

Johnny Burke: You mentioned an imprint: today we would call that a download where something happens, you have some kind of transference of energy, and you just have a knowing. Is that about what that is, or am I just completely off?

Aureal Willams: No it was a download. It is an imprint. We do not understand our world, neuroscientists tell us that our consciousness takes up about 5% of what’s actually happening, and there’s big mystery. But I always knew that something better than the suffering we were all in was on its way.

Johnny Burke: So why do you suppose this is happening now? And the reason I ask that is the shifting from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian age, which may have started 500 years ago, or it may start 500 years from now. How do you know this i, actually happening right now?

Aureal Willams: Our direct experience and what feels resonant for us. I wrote this book, a 5D ordinary descriptions of an extraordinary shift. I wrote it for people who know nothing about it. In the book, I track all of the things that I was paying attention to that point to this shift. I’ll go over them briefly. One is gender fluidity.

Johnny Burke: Are these the five pillars?

Aureal Willams: no, these are the markers that address your question of how we can say this is happening now. It’s such a shift from the third dimension. There are several of these, and the first is gender fluidity. In the past 10 years where we have transgender people on the covers of magazines. There’re being stars on television shows. The mainstream has accepted, and I know many people who are, walking that path are challenged con constantly by bias and discrimination and safety threats. The other one is the power to the people. We’ve seen Black Lives Matter, all of the protests that bring it to the streets, Occupy Wall Street. People thought that wasn’t successful, so this is another part where, the hierarchy is dissolving.

Johnny Burke: I think what you just said about the hierarchy dissolving is a direct reference of shifting from one dimension to another.

Aureal Willams: Absolutely.

Johnny Burke: When you were young, did you have intuitive experiences maybe seeing spirits or reading energy or anything psychic or anything like that?

Aureal Willams: When I was 10 years old, we were at my grandmother’s house, and we were getting ready to leave ,I was sitting on the steps and something shifted in my consciousness. I don’t know what happened, but it was a marker. It was a definite awakening, and I had no frame of reference for it. But yeah, something happened when I was 10.

Johnny Burke: What’s interesting about discussions about 5D, people that do come on too Closer to Venus, many of them do have past life memories. So I always ask, how far do your memories go back, and some go back to ancient civilizations,

Aureal Willams: I don’t.

Johnny Burke: That’s because some of the people that do have memories believe that thousands of years ago, we did live in a fifth-dimension consciousness where things like telepathy were completely normal. You mentioned something about the five pillars of access to 5D.

Aureal Willams: These five pillars came to me after I wrote the book, and I saw that there’s, I’m all about helping people and how do you do this? saw, I felt that these five pillars were how you access 5D and the first one is unconditional love. That is the basis of 5D. it’s that we operate from our heart. We let go of the mind as being the controller, and we operate from our heart, and we love unconditionally. And the trick here, Johnny, is we have to love ourselves unconditionally. That’s the work. And from there, we can love other people.

The second pillar is to live by intuition. The third pillar is a new relationship with time, and we mentioned that before. And then the fourth pillar is letting go and oh boy. I can’t tell you how much that is active in making this shift to 5D.

We have to let go of what was, we have to let go of who we are, and in that process, we allow what wants to be to evolve, to happen. The fifth pillar is sovereignty. We must live in our sovereignty and that relates to the power to the people, how we claim our own power. And it’s interesting that the Queen died and in the queen dying, that archetype ended and we can all claim the archetype of being the queen or the king of our own life. It’s not that we don’t follow orders or do things, it depends on what is authentic for us.

Johnny Burke: You mentioned that these five pillars came to you after you read the book. Now, was this an imprint? Was it a download? Was it-

Aureal Willams: I think so. Yes. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: How can we tell the difference between, let’s say, an imprint and just our imagination?

Aureal Willams: it’s really interesting you use the word imagination because the guy, I’m forgetting his name now, but he founded the Waldorf School. He was a mystic and he said that imagination was just as important as intuition or inspiration. That we need imagination. So I think to answer your question, it’s a felt experience for me. It’s not just a heady thing or an abstract thing it’s a real visceral physical experience, a sensate experience if you will.

Johnny Burke: Okay. You basically describe yourself as a deep-space astrologer. How did that happen and what exactly is a five-D astrology reading?

Aureal Willams: Okay, thank you for asking that question. Johnny. In 1995, I met the leading galactic astrologer, Phillip Sedwick. He’s out of Arizona and he works with, pulsars, quasars, black holes, and their influence in our chart. He is such a pioneer, and his work is amazing and so he introduced me to that.

Since 2000, there have been all of these new planets discovered and they’re in the Kuiper Belt, this part of the sky that is opening up to us. And so over the past couple of years, I’ve been aware of this, and my readings have gone from working with about 10 ,15 planets or points of access to 65.

There’s a handful of people who are putting work out there about this software application that lists them. I’m using that, finding them, finding out where they are, and I’m doing my own deep dive study into what they mean and how they help and I’m, writing my blog posts from the perspective of these 5D planets. They’re technically called dwarf planets, but that can be a derogatory term.

And Another astrologer calls them 5D planets. And that’s what I call them too, because they’re amazing, Johnny. They are so amazing. They are helping us. They work together and they’re helping us lift our consciousness, as I said at the very beginning. This shift is not only happening for human beings, but also for everything that has life. And clearly the planets have life.

Johnny Burke: Many people refer to Earth as Mother earth and it is a living being. Even a rock has life, believe it or not.

Aureal Willams: Yes, totally. For sure.

Johnny Burke: So 5D planets, do any of these planets have names?

Aureal Willams: Yes, they do have names. they’re not well known and in my blog post, I list the ones that for every two weeks from the new to the full moon and the full Moon to the end, and I list the ones that I’m looking at in that two-week timeframe so yeah, they all have names basically. They’ve been named for creation deities

Johnny Burke: Can you tell us a couple of those names?

Aureal Willams: Oh, sure. I have them right here. There’s A R R O K O T H, and this name comes from a Native American tribe in the Baltimore area. And we actually have photograph of Arrokoth, it happened by a flyby. They were able to capture it, and it’s two bodies that have been fused into one. So the work of Arrokoth is that it helps us integrate pieces into the whole. So that’s one of them. And then there’s a ceinture it’s called H Y L O N O M E. And it has to do with grief. And I can’t tell you Johnny, how many readings I do where this planet is prominent and the person involved, the person whose chart it is, is dealing with really old grief. Very old, old wound grief. They’re carrying it, they might not even be conscious of it. A third one is chaos. We understand that term, we understand that language, but chaos really means the void and the emptiness. So again, there’s a ton of them.

Johnny Burke: I did not know that. So how did you come to learn about these planets and what they represent and how to work with them in your readings?

Aureal Willams: I have finished a training program, Alan Clay, who is in New Zealand. He has Dwarf Planet University and I studied in that. We studied 10 of them in depth. We had six weeks to look at 10 of these planets and in the fall of last year, the sky opened up. It just gave me such meaning and purpose to my life to do a deep dive exploration into finding out what these planets mean and how they work with us. That’s what I’m involved in doing right now, and that’s what I bring to my work with my readings. I’m working on a database of all of this information.

Johnny Burke: Are you eventually going to have that listed on your website?

Aureal Willams: Well, I’m not sure what format it will be in, but yes.

Johnny Burke: how can this work help us find our life purpose? You did mention something about this during our last talk.

Aureal Willams: the feedback that I get from people, that have readings with me, what happens is that they report blind spots. I always felt that, but I could never put it into words. One person said recently you helped me see my blind spots. My message is that even though you don’t believe in astrology I have the capacity to communicate the information in everyday language. We don’t really use the astrology jargon and the reading. I bring it down to basics of what such and such means and the application for it. That’s my work basically.

Johnny Burke: If I remember correctly, you don’t work with spirit guides or ancestral spirits or anything like that in your readings, right?

Aureal Willams: I call them all in before we start the work. They’re really important, but that’s not my channel. I don’t see them; I don’t necessarily hear them or feel them. We do an invocation where we call them all in before, but I’m basically working with the planetary energy and that’s what seems to come through.

Johnny Burke: Okay, so you do an invocation, but you don’t really communicate them like other readers like, somebody who does past life readings or a medium or a shaman or anything like that, but you do acknowledge their existence.

Do you believe that we all have spirit guides?

Aureal Willams: Absolutely we must rely on ourselves as sovereign divine beings. And so yes, we have the spirit guides, we have the angels. We have all of these incredible protectors and, informants to help us. But the power is within. We have to activate our own sovereignty, our own divinity.

Johnny Burke:This is consistent with what the shamans and the intuitives and the other mystics say ; we are divine beings. I just thought this might be a type of reading where you don’t have to get the information from your spirit guide or the sitter’s spirit guides in the fashion that, other intuitives do It’s all a mystery. We enter the work with our hearts open in a sacred space. We ask for all the help available, all the help possible, and then we just go into the work. For me, the planets are living energy and they communicate.

And the way that I work is a standalone astrology reading. My preference is to work in a series of three, where we do the astrology reading, and then a week or two later we do a guided imagery, and that’s where the 5D planets that are prominent in that person’s chart. We do a relaxation first. Then we can get the information and then we travel out to deep space and the person has a communication with that planet that I’m not privy to. It’s their communication. Then the people gain information from that. Then in a week or two later, we have a session where we pull it all together. These are high energies. They come through the heart, it involves letting go of control, letting go of, mind, figuring it out, and it moves to feeling.

Johnny Burke: I wanted to ask you this as well, it’s something which is on your website: We live in an interactive world and we are best served when we rely on both the physical and the metaphysical. How did you come up with that?

Aureal Willams: That was another imprint or another download, Johnny, it’s my understanding of work. It’s almost like the integration of right and left or masculine, feminine, real and imaginal. The physical is very real. We actually live in a physical world, but we are spiritual beings, and we have, like you say, all of these helpers and all of this support from beyond the veil that we can’t see. We can’t necessarily touch, but it’s accessible, so I feel we have to absolutely integrate the physical with the metaphysical in order to be the whole that we are. We have a body, but we also have a spirit. We have a heart; we have a mind.

We have to integrate all of these, and it’s not easy.

Johnny Burke: is there anything else you’d like to tell our listeners?

Aureal Willams: Yes, I would love to share that the most recent cultural phenomenon in the United States, Damar Hamlin, that is a fifth-dimension experience. The whole country united around this guy, woke up to the actual dangers involved in football. they saw it for the first time and , it’s all through the heart. It’s all through his heart. So I would love to get a look at his chart. But this is a fifth-dimension experience where the whole country and even beyond our country connected at the heart level without taking sides, without judgment, just with pure care and love. So that’s an example of 5D.

Johnny Burke: Very nice to watch. I think we need more moments like that.

So Aureal thanks for joining us today. how can our listeners find you online?

Aureal Willams: my website, Ariel auealwilliams.com. I welcome questions and connections.

https://www.instagram.com/aureal5d/

#92 Lucy Brand: The Metaphysical World Part II

October 22, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Channeling, Mystics

#aquarianage, #channeling, #energyhealing, #galacticshaman, #lightlanguage, #lucybrand, #metaphysical, #mutidimensionalbeing, #spiritguides, reincarnation

September 2, 2022

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Lucy Brand. She is an energy Alchemist, galactic shaman, divine channeler, and founder of Energetic Essence Healing. Today, we will be continuing our discussion on the metaphysical world. Lucy, welcome back to the program.

Lucy Brand: Thank you for having me again. I think I had so much fun the first time. I’m glad to be

invited back.

Johnny Burke: We actually did have a very good time talking about the metaphysical world, in the first episode. And I wanted to make sure that we didn’t miss anything. So for those who may not have heard the first episode, the first installment, what is your understanding of metaphysics and, otherwise the metaphysical world ?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. So my interpretation or understanding of it is it’s how the universe comes together, but in a way, we can’t quite figure it out. So, everything from universe dimensions, different realms, us as beings, other beings. But also, you know how love- there’s no mathematical equation for love. There is just a magic in love. There’s no rhyme or reason or strategy to it. And that’s what I think metaphysics is about the universe. It’s more of a feeling of how everything comes together rather than statistics like science

Johnny Burke: I think it’s interesting that you mention there is no equation or, algorithm for love. But when you talk about love, I don’t think that it’s the fuzzy love that we associate with relationships. It’s more of a, higher love that kind of bonds us all together.

Lucy Brand: Yeah. If I’m talking about the source of all that is, or the divine, or some people call it God, or like the universe that or higher consciousness. That’s a different kind of love to human love if you see what I mean. But again, there’s no mathematical equation for the divine, and how I might see the divine and you see, it might be different as well – different interpretations.

Johnny Burke: And if there was an equation or if there was a, math or a calculus for love I’m sure Elon Musk will probably try to buy that company, right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I think everyone would be. I think everyone would do that if we found the formula for love.

Johnny Burke: Yeah. The formula, the calculus. Yeah. It’s a great idea though. So how do time and space fit into the grand picture of the metaphysical world? I’ve heard lots of different theories and I’ve also heard that time might even be an illusion. What are your thoughts?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, my understanding is that time is an illusion. It’s a human construct so that we can better understand the universe cuz otherwise our minds are just blown. We can’t wrap our heads around something. So with what I look at, I believe that time doesn’t exist. So past lives don’t actually exist, cuz it’s all happening at the same time, across different dimensions, and across different timelines,but that’s quite hard to wrap your head around sometimes.

Johnny Burke: indeed.

Lucy Brand: I see it when we heal in this lifetime or even in another lifetime, you see how it frees up different things, challenges that are happening in other lifetimes. So it kind of makes sense. It’s like a ripple effect.

Johnny Burke: Could that be related to the butterfly effect?

Lucy Brand: Hmm. Completely, but just not necessarily just on planet earth, but throughout the whole of the universe.

Johnny Burke: It’s not the first time I’ve heard that. So if I understand you correctly if we heal something in this lifetime, it’s also possible to heal something in, let’s say another lifetime- the time element can be very confusing. You’re right. It’s a lot to get our heads around, but is that possible?

Lucy Brand: Oh completely. That happens all the time. I tend to be the last resort for a lot of people. And they’ve tried everything in this dimension, this world, and it’s not working. So I will look at their past lives and not that past lives exist, but that’s the term we’ve got for it. And something will have happened in their past life that is actually impacting them now in this current reality. So we heal that, and then it completely changes their current reality. Like they’re able to let go or move on or something just heals within them.

Johnny Burke: but it’s a lot easier for us to imagine an axis going from a, to B like a horizontal axis as if to say, well, you have an issue now because in a past life, challenge someone to a duel, and you lost, and that’s why you’ve always felt a certain way about something.

I remember reading about Edgar Cayce, in one of his cases he was doing a reading for a gentleman that apparently had a past life of Alexander Hamilton, who we know died in a gun duel. I think it’s easier for us to think “okay that goes back to 1812 and now here we are in 20 22. Now that I’ve resolved that I feel better about my life in the present.

Lucy Brand: Yeah, but it’s also like phobias. It can be anything. Like I had an absolute terrified of cruise ships. Couldn’t even look at them. They just terrified me. And when I explored it deeper for myself, I actually died around Victorian times on a cruise ship, it sank in the Atlantic on its way to America. So I went down with the ship and I was like, “oh, that makes so much sense.” So what I would do is go into that life and just heal it so that we can let it go. Cuz we carry so much stuff in our beings. Karma or whatever you wanna call it. So it’s kind of healing that on an energetic level, it kind of frees you up and lightens you up. You’re not as burdened.

Johnny Burke: Now that particular lifetime, you were able to go back and you remember being on the cruise ship did you actually go as far as to when you actually died and when the ship went under?

Lucy Brand: Yeah drowning, drowning is quite common in past lives. A lot of our past lives are not that nice. I’ve experienced past lives on different planets and different galaxies and things like that. So in one of them, I was really not a nice person or being, in this particular galaxy. And so my understanding right now is the reason I do the work I do in the world is I’m kind of making up for some really bad stuff that I did in other lifetimes. So my karma…

Johnny Burke: Well, you must be doing a great job because you seem to be a very nice person. So I think you’re not in arrears anymore. You’re caught up. That’s my guess. Anyway.

Lucy Brand: we’ll see, but I.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Yeah, only time will tell- that’s true. Let’s talk about the dimensions because we’ve talked before about how we’re multidimensional beings. Do the dimensions correspond with the ones that are commonly discussed? Third dimensions, the fourth dimension, the fifth dimension, and going up to whatever the end is. We hear a lot about 3d and 5 d. Does the multidimensionality have to do with that discussion or is it, something completely different?

Lucy Brand: Well, I feel that there’s infinite dimensions. So it’s the same as I feel there’s infinite Chakras, the vortexes of energy, plugging us into the universe above us and plugging us into the earth below us. So I think pretty much most things in this universe are infinite. The dimensions are infinite and the way I kind of try and rationalize this maybe is that,in the different dimensions, there’s different aspects of myself living. So that could be in a past life. It could be on another planet. It’s all happening at the same time but in a different dimension. One of my references to this is, if we look at Jesus turning water into wine and bread, like feeding the thousands. I wonder what dimension he was living in to be able to do that? What dimension did he see to be able to manifest that? He must have had no limiting beliefs or ?

Johnny Burke: He was on another level

Lucy Brand: Yeah. And

Johnny Burke: As are the other ascended masters right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, exactly. So that’s what makes me feel that we are only scraping the surface of the different dimensions that are possible. But I do feel that planet earth is going through a shift right now as a whole planet into another, I’m not sure whether I would call it a dimension. I call it a new way of being the new paradigm, which I believe is here. And that’s what we’re kind of trying to navigate right now.

Johnny Burke: it seems like there’s an awful lot of upheaval. Everybody knows what’s in the news these days and even on the world front with what’s happening with Ukraine and Russia. When you mention a shift that reminds me of what some other speakers that have been on the show, talk about, moving away from the masculine energy to the feminine energy, or does that have anything to do with the divine feminine? or is that a different construct?

Lucy Brand: Yes, I believe it is. The old paradigm which was called the Piscean Age was very much focused on the masculine. It was set up for the masculine. The new paradigm, which is the Age of Aquarius is more about love and unity, and equality. So I actually feel it’s about the divine feminine, having a seat at the table with the divine masculine and every other energies in between , rather than one being higher than the other, because the thing with the Piscean Age, the old paradigm, it was very hierarchical. So it was structured.

That’s what we’re seeing right now is these structures are just falling away, cuz they’re no longer working for this new way of coming in this new way of being, which again is about love. It’s about community. The old paradigm was about competition. What can I get? And the Aquarius age is more about, we’ll see advancements in technology, we’ll see advancements in helping the greater good with technology as well. I believe this prediction, whether this comes true or not,, because it depends on people’s choices as we have free will. But people going back to growing their own vegetables, more sustainable living, and more thought and care in the way we are living towards mother earth and planet earth.

Johnny Burke: This would be aligned with the concept of community and unity. What you mentioned before- everything was about competition, that’s still firmly in place. You compete for a job, you compete for the girlfriend or the boyfriend, or when I was a musician, there was such a competition for bands to get record deals that it basically just squeezed all the good, all the fun out of it. And I think a lot of us kind of missed the point. It wasn’t about being better than someone else. It was about creating something that would hopefully last longer than we would, art as it were. Do you think that’s eventually gonna fall away and we are gonna actually enter that age? What you call the Aquarian Age.?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. So there are a couple of things I’d like to mention here. So first I think it’s already seeing it. So, it depends on what you follow. I’m not sure if I’m gonna remember her name correctly. But she was the front woman for the Dresden Dolls. Amanda Palmer. So she was one of the first people to adopt the crowdfunding way of producing an album. And she made a million by offering different levels. How it is done now, crowdfunding, she was kind of a pioneer in that, and that was the first time that someone didn’t have to go to a record company, went to their fans instead. So I’ve seen it change, in different things.

Another, so I’m a bit of a Dungeons and Dragons player. I also watch a show called Critical Role. Voice actors play Dungeons and Dragons in LA and they live stream it. So they wanted to create a cartoon version, an animation of their show. They went to all the big names. No one was interested. So they crowdfunded it and they again blew records out of the water. I think they got $12 million. So then all the big giants then came knocking. And so I feel like it is happening, but it’s kind of an underground movement at the moment. And we’re gonna see more of it, I believe because again, the old structures and the old way of doing stuff where it’s competition isn’t gonna work.

And the other side of this is you are not in competition with someone else because what you bring to the table is different from what someone else brings to the table. And you are just gonna click with someone and they’re gonna click with someone else. But as long as you are your authentic self, then you’re always gonna win. If I can use that word, there is no competition cuz you can’t be in competition with that other person, cuz you are uniquely you.

Johnny Burke: That’s definitely a good way to look at it. I just really wish that the job marketplace in the corporate world or whatever you wanna call it, there would be more of a community feel where everyone brings their unique quality, their unique skill set, where there isn’t such a competition. Because that, to me, it’s like a minus sum game for every winner there has to be a loser. And I think you’re right at some point, in the future of mankind , for us to really progress, that’s gotta basically fall to the wayside.

Let’s talk about your work and what you do. And some of your experiences with this metaphysical world that we’re talking about today.

Lucy Brand: As I’ve said in the previous episode, I was born with a lot of my gifts, because I come from a long line of witches, but then I have dived into studying shamanism and different elements to kind of, activate myself in different powers or healing modalities. Some of the things I’ve experienced, have been quite out there and I think one of the most intense one was I just finished a shamanic training, program, and I really got to delve into the different worlds that were available and I was with a client and, It was almost like this shadow entity- that’s what I tend to call them. For me, they look like, in the old cartoons where your shadow would do completely a different thing to what the cartoon character is doing. That’s what they look like. And he was being particularly aggressive and silencing this client. It was kind of scary. I’m not gonna lie. cause I was kind of a bit new to all this. But I called in reinforcements I called in my angels, called in extra people to help me remove him and take him to the light.

Then it was after this experience that I just realized that we are all-powerful. Nothing can really hurt us unless we choose to- we have choice. And it was that moment where I just was like, “wow”, like a recognition of how powerful I am, but so is everyone, because your word is law, anything in those other realms, those other dimensions can’t touch you, can’t hurt you if you say no.

Johnny Burke: I think I told you about this before when I went to a Reiki healer for the first time. I stood in a circle with the ladies. I think there were four or five of them. And, the ringmaster, the leader, said, what sounded like an incantation almost, or just prayer. “Only light and love can come in and only light and love can leave.” That’s basically saying ”these are the boundaries.’ So everybody else, if you’re not light and love, get lost, or don’t bother, cuz we’re not gonna let you in.

Lucy Brand: I do that all the time with my house. I say, “only beings of light are welcome here. All else must leave now. “And then it’s done. Like

Johnny Burke: I like how you said that – leave now. Or, I’m gonna have Lucy Brand come after you and then you’re really gonna be in trouble. You think you’re hurting now? Leave now while you can. Seriously though, that’s very good for all of us to know that we are powerful beings and, it reminds me that the Vampire Diaries where apparently a vampire could not come into the house unless they’re invited. It’s the same concept. Right? , and you don’t have to be religious obviously,

Lucy Brand: Not at all. I think it’s really good for you to do it. Like if you’ve been struggling a bit, so if I’ve been ill, my defenses will have been low. So that’s a time that a shadow entity might see a chink in my armor so might decide to come and hang out in my house and make me feel a bit more miserable or whatever. So that’s why I would definitely say something like that: “Only beings of light are welcome here, or else must leave now “and say it in an authoritarian voice as well. Especially after you’ve not been feeling well, or maybe you’ve been feeling a bit down or whatever, just to cleanse your house, like cleanse where you are. You could even do it at work as well. And see if like, no one bothers you that you’re not a fan of.

Johnny Burke: right. Exactly. No, that’s good .That’s good. right. A protective bubble. Okay. So I remember you were telling me about an instance with one of your clients. We didn’t have time to go onto this the last time, but, apparently, some of your clients are having their first incarnation on Earth, which could be challenging because, if they’ve had lifetimes on other planets that were easier- this place is it’s rough- that’s what I’ve been told anyway. Tell us a little bit about that.

Lucy Brand: Yes. I just kind of can spot people that it’s their first lifetime here because they tend to be quite confused at how the world works, why it is such a certain way and why it’s so hard, especially if they’ve been on other planets where they’ve manifested like that, or it’s just been a lot more love and light and easier. From what I understand, it’s a real honor and privilege to come to planet earth. And the reason we come back is that we want to work off karma and this is the quickest planet to do that on because it is so challenging. I think when we are on the other side, it’s almost like a classroom situation where you’re like, “oh, I’m gonna work off that karma, or do that. And then when you’re actually born here and you get here, you realize that it’s just not that easy and that maybe taking on all that karma in this one lifetime was a bit much

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that you come here to learn, but it’s not as hard at home because everything’s love and light and that’s great but do some people decide? Well, I’ve been there before and I’m never going back. The last time I was there, President Trump was ruling the country and I never, ever wanna see that again. Is that possible?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, completely. It doesn’t matter what universe you’re in, what planet you’re on, or even if you’re on the other side with the divine, you have a choice. So you choose to come back. My understanding again, of what I’ve channeled and asked my guides is that some people, when they have particularly traumatic lifetimes or, how do I word this? particularly, not very nice in their lifetime they actually go to a healing place. Some people aren’t allowed to reincarnate on planet earth for if we’re gonna put it in human terms years and years and years, cuz they need to heal from what they’ve done or they need to learn lessons from what they’ve done. On the other side, it is all love and light. So they’d never be reprimanded, but there’d be almost like shown a reel of what they did. And if that person has then become love and light, cause they’ve gone to the other side, they will be, I imagine pretty disappointed in themselves. so but I think, let me just check, um, yeah, so we always have a choice. Has anyone said they can’t come back? No.

Johnny Burke: Were you asking yourself or were you asking one of your beings of light- friends?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I was just asking like the guide of mine, like of being of light. I was just checking in with them because I don’t have all the answers, but I can get them for you.

Johnny Burke: Oh, my, that could be a dangerous thing for some of us. I’m not sure I really want to know all the answers to my questions, but that’s probably a discussion for another day. interesting concept though. So since you’ve channeled certain beings, beings of light, and angels, do you have a visual picture of what home- the other side actually looks like?

Lucy Brand: Yes and no. Like, to me it looks like many, many different rooms, depending on what you wanna know, where you wanna go or what dimension you wanna be in. I’ve said that the same soul circle ,each other to work off their karma. So if my grandma hasn’t reincarnated, when I’m on the other side, I’ll probably wanna go out and hang out with her for a while. and just be with her for a bit. They’re all in different maybe rooms is wrong, different dimensions. It’s like different planes that I see that happening. And there’s some people that just don’t wanna come back. They don’t wanna work off their karma. And that’s cool too. That’s okay. Like it really is. Any decision that you make is absolutely okay with the divine, cuz they’re only love and light and forgiveness. So it doesn’t matter what you do really. You’re always gonna be forgiven for it.

Johnny Burke: Wow. Okay. Now is it true then ,when someone goes home – apparently all of us go home. There is no hell as you and others have told me before. When someone goes to that in-between space, and they make their soul contracts and, then they come back, is it true that a portion of the soul stays home? Can you tell us a little bit more about how that works ?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, that is true because we’re multidimensional beings living in different dimensions. So there’s a part of you. That’s always gonna be home, there’s like different parts of you scattered around the universe. if you think of your soul as multidimensional and so expansive and infinite, and that’s just, let’s say your soul and my soul is that……, I’m not sure. Let me just check. No, I’m not sure it would be possible to contain it in one human . Cause it’s too awesome-if that makes sense

Johnny Burke: Yeah, it does. I just imagined for a moment you and I can be in a different dimension watching us in this discussion. And I can hear you saying, “well, Johnny, you’re pretty good at this. I didn’t even have to give you the script”, and we’re just having a joke about it.

Lucy Brand: Yeah, Totally.

Johnny Burke: I’m just making this up ;I’m imagining that, but I’ve had another guest speaker that came on recently that pretty much gave me the same scenario and I thought,’ okay I can see that happening. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’m not gonna say it isn’t happening.”

That would explain how we’re multidimensional beings and we’re able to be in different places at the same time. What about when you have a dream about people and places that, let’s say it’s in the present- It seems to be present day ,and you’ve never met them in your physical life, but they are absolutely familiar. Is that an example of how part of us is in another dimension with these people, and that’s why we’re dreaming about them?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, that could be so many things. That could bethat you’ve had a past life with this person, or they’re in another dimension and perhaps they are one of the souls that circle you, but right now they’re in a different dimension. Or, we go places in our sleep, our consciousness, our higher self, our soul, if you want, it’ll go places in sleep. So, you’ll go and meet people while you are sleeping.

Johnny Burke: it does seem like that though doesn’t it? It really does. And I’ve had several of these dreams and I’m thinking, I’ve never met this girl, but I somehow feel like I know her or him or whatever. And this place, which I’ve never been to, but I know I’ve been here before, but this body’s never really been there . The multidimensional explanation would kind of make that a little bit more plausible. At least that’s what I think now.

Lucy Brand: When you do stuff that I do and jump timelines, it makes it hard to pinpoint when an event actually happened in your life. But I think it was maybe in 2021 and I was waking up so tired, so exhausted. When I checked in with myself, what is going on? Why am I so tired? My spirit was actually going to America and was helping people in America. Just reassuring people, in that spirit dimension. When my spirit was coming back in the morning, I was exhausted.

And a lot of the time I felt quite down, cuz it was quite serious, tough stuff that was going on in the states. So what I had to say again, is because I’m the authority in my life. I said I’m happy for my spirit and soul to go off at night to heal while I sleep. But when you come back, I want you to close all portals and dimensions with love and light so that they’re not gonna bring any other energies back that are lower energies, and lucy, the human, needs enough rest to be able to have a great day the next day and feel good about herself The next day I jumped out of bed, I was like,” oh yes, my energy’s back.” It is so powerful the awareness,

Johnny Burke: It’s moments like these, that I’m glad that I do transcripts, I know people are gonna want to go ‘where is this written down?’ Well, if you go towww.closertovenus.com, everything from episode 38 and up has a transcript. I think some people like to read anyway,

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I’m one of those people

Johnny Burke: it is very good to know. cause it’s not something that we really hear every day. The lives on the other planets, the decisions? I imagine this is planned in between incarnations. Do we make that decision or is it made for us?

Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah. We make all the decisions. It’s totally our choice, as to what you wanna do and what planet you wanna reincarnate on and you even choose who your parents are, and who your family members are. You choose who you’re gonna see who you’re gonna meet. And then there is obviously stuff will happen because everyone has free will on this planet. So you might have a plan when you come here, but then someone else might do something that’s not part of that plan. And then things might change. Anything can change in a split second. That’s why predicting the future doesn’t always work because it depends on other people and the decisions they’ve made.

Johnny Burke: A lot of moving parts there. So is it possible that when my time comes and I decide where, and when I wanna reincarnate, can I say, ‘well, I’m gonna go to planet Zoltar , but I wanna make sure Prince, Michael Jackson and David Bowie are my best friends from like age five.’ Can we do that? That’s probably a lot to ask for.

Lucy Brand: I’m sure you can. I’m sure you can. I don’t think it’s a lot to ask for like, literally, I think there are no limits and source will just be, have what you want.

Johnny Burke: I forgot John Lenon and George Harrison as well. And I’ll even play bass if I have to. and I don’t offer that very often. it’s good to know. It’s I think it’s eye-opening for a lot of us -it makes the possibility of alien life and worlds and different planets a lot more believable because a lot of people are talking about being reincarnated on different planets . From what I’ve heard, from some of the mediums, they talk about how these beings don’t like being called aliens. Because alien means apart, and they apparently do not feel like they are apart from us- that we’re part of the same star family. Do you agree?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I believe we all come from the same one- we’re all like part of the same thing, but just in a different form, a different aspect. I really just wanted to share something that’s coming through right now. Someone needs to hear this, that’s listening to the podcast. If when you make a decision or when you take an action, I would always preface that with,” for the highest of all involved” because then it offers it up to source basically. So whatever decision someone else might make for you, it will be kind of like a protection bubble. Again, the highest good for all involved will come out.

Johnny Burke: Is that the same thing as saying, ” I wish for a most beneficial outcome for my work life, my family, or most beneficial outcome for my podcast to reach the people that it has to reach. “And by the way, this isn’t live. So the only person that’s really listening other than you is me. So that message was for me? Or am I just dreaming?

Lucy Brand: No, it could be, but I think it’s for a listener somewhere. They’ll just tell me someone that listens to the podcast.

Johnny Burke: Which means someone other than you and I that’s listening right now ?

Lucy Brand: No, will be in the future. Yeah. Because time doesn’t exist.

Johnny Burke: Sorry- I stand corrected. It’s true. as. You make the rules, not me. That’s interesting though, there is no time. . What happens before we are incarnated here on earth?

Lucy Brand: It depends what you wanna do. Some people, have to go into deep states of healing because of what they’ve experienced on planet earth, in their lifetime. Other people, would wanna do more research, because if you think about it every time you come back, you’re gonna play a different character. If you like, you could be a different gender, working off different karma, different things. So I imagine that when you’ve had a life here, you might be like feeling quite inspired about how you wanna next reincarnate, or what movement or what thing you wanna bring forth or stand for, or, how you wanna change.Because I believe that every baby that’s born is of love and light, it’s only their experiences through life, which then make them what they are. I was checking in earlier about perhaps chemical imbalances in the mind, which then results in things.

But apart from that, I feel a lot of people come here with a purpose of some kind to heal ,or move or help the planet, but some of us just get lost or caught up and that’s okay too. There’s never gonna be any reprimand for it. But I think then when you go onto the other side, you’ll be like, ‘oh, I wish I could have done that differently, so maybe I’m gonna go and research how someone else did it. You have access to all these records of life and time. Well, you might be like,” do you know what?I need to take the next millennia off. I’m exhausted from that life. So I’m just gonna chill, hang out in this love and light” if they showed me everything on the other side, my brains would probably explode. I wouldn’t be able to handle it. So this is just my limited understanding as a human

Johnny Burke: You were just talking about the access to just about anything you want. Anything you need, to learn about. Is it true that manifestation, when you’re on the other side is instant ? I’ve heard this from people who’ve had near-death experiences where they think of something and they’re there, they think of someone, and they’re there. In your channeling experience and related experiences, do you find that to be true?

Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah, completely. So on the other side, there’s no resistance cuz there’s love and light. On planet earth,this is a very dense planet. It’s a very heavy planet. And there’s a lot of resistance. As humans, our emotions can get in the way, our beliefs can get in the way of us manifesting what we want. For example, we don’t feel worthy of it or whatever. So then we’re on a different frequency cuz our desires are hanging out in joy and bliss normally. And if we are feeling unworthy, we’re in a completely different frequency. And then there’s loads of resistance between you and your desire. Whereas on the other side, because you are love and light, it like manifests like that cuz there’s no resistance. There’s no unworthiness or not good enough. ‘

Johnny Burke: That’s something to look forward to for a lot of us. What is light language and how is it different from the other healing modalities?

Lucy Brand: So light language, how it manifests in me is sounds, so I speak it. And the way I can share it with you is I channel galactic beings of the light. So when I heal people with my light language, it’s the highest frequency that I’ve ever channeled. So in shamanic healing, it tends to be earth-based frequencies, which are denser. Whereas the angelic frequencies, the light language frequencies are much higher that lights, they transform, things like that, just so fast. Then you can channel different things for different things to be healed depending on what beings wanna come forward.

Johnny Burke: So light language is, is that the same thing an angelic frequency?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Excellent.

Lucy Brand: It’s different for different people. Like different people channel. I get very giggly with mine cuz it’s quite high frequency.

Johnny Burke: It’s possible that we might have to devote another episode to the light language because it’s not something we hear about every day. Are there any other messages that are coming forward right at the moment?

Lucy Brand: No, I haven’t really got any other messages apart from just. Keep going, keep going, and just know that it’s all gonna work out okay. And that you’re doing a great job. That’s for everyone that’s listening and including you, Johnny too. it is just having that hug that reassurance. That’s how I see this podcast. It’s almost like a reassurance like it’s okay. It’s okay.

Johnny Burke: All right. well, that is reassuring, I think. great stuff. So, Lucy, thanks again for being with us, and coming back. That will conclude the metaphysical world part two, but who knows? We might have another episode of the light language down the pike. How can our listeners find more about you online?

Lucy Brand: On my website, www.lucy-brand.com. And you can also find me on Instagram @ energeticessencehealing.

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