#125 Toni Reilly: Reincarnation and Life Between Lives
Johnny Burke: Welcome closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Dr. Tony Reilly,(@tonireilly) She is a soul life coach, an author, and one of Australia’s most sought after past life regression specialists. Her soul life coaching program represents the next step in the evolution in past life regression, and her goal is to ultimately change the face of psychology. Toni, welcome to the program.
Toni Reilly: Morning, Johnny. Thank you for having me.
Johnny Burke: It is morning where you are, isn’t it? I keep forgetting that. I’m in Florida and you’re in Australia.
Toni Reilly: We
on the opposite. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: hence the Sunday night recording. Excellent. Okay, cool. So you’re a hypnotherapist and a coach. how did you segue into past lives and reincarnation?
Toni Reilly: my life was very ordinary and mainstream up until about my mid-thirties, and at that stage I became intrigued about intuition. My own intuition was the first time I realized that I had it or it was a thing for me. And in the process of trying to develop that, I started to meditate. And I didn’t know that normal people meditated. I thought monks meditated.
So in meditation I realized I had all of these clair senses and they worked and they were brilliant. The lady who was teaching me to meditate told me to read Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss. When I read that book, I read it in one go and thought to myself. This is what I’m here to do. It was a revelation; I hadn’t had anything to do with past lives before reading that book. From there it was a bit of a process to quickly get it happening and do something with it.
Johnny Burke: That book was or is a life changer, a game changer for many people, and his signature has been felt throughout that industry, and on this podcast, there’s been several people that were trained by Brian Weiss .And I read the book, and it was pretty incredible, to say the least. So that makes sense. What is a Soul Life coach?
Toni Reilly: A soul life coach– they’re more a therapist actually, it’s someone who’s trained to go deeper than the story that we tell as people because we, we usually want coaching because we need some help or we’ve got a problem. So what we do as a soul life coach is go beyond. The story and help that person understand themselves and why they feel the way that they do go to an emotional level, and if that’s really for this day stuff.
But if there are issues that can help boost people’s esteem or confidence, or help them relieve themselves of fear or a phobia, then we can delve into the past lives or even go beyond to help them discover their purpose So that’s really the difference. We, we consider the soul
Johnny Burke: I know that you also wrote a book called, Awake, the Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here. But I think you just hinted about going beyond the past life. Would that be the life between lives space? and
Toni Reilly: And even beyond that
Johnny Burke: I just opened up a pandora’s Box.
Toni Reilly: You did. Even beyond that, the between, if I would just dumb it down, the between life space is where there’s information about either the past lives you’re leading or the current life that you’re leading. So it’s almost like a bit of a space where humans or people can go and interact and get some relief messages, some guidance for themselves. Whereas there’s even beyond that where it’s really, dare I say nothing. The most beautiful nothing where we’re all one. And this is this place where people are always talking about, ‘oh, we’re all one.’ But it’s there. You can feel it and can visit there. They don’t let you stay there long. It’ll usually be you’ve got to go back now. So, yeah, different spaces to go and get answers from.
Johnny Burke: What I’ve been told by many practitioners like yourself is that it is a place where soul contracts take place. Soul family members are discovered, oh. And one of my favorites, the life review, which really almost makes my brain hurt to think about these things, but, it almost seems too good to be true. Is that me or have you heard that before?
Toni Reilly: I think it does seem too good to be true. It’s almost something that you must experience to appreciate. That it’s true. It feels true when you do this, when you go there, when you visit there. It can be a hard concept to fathom, but all of the things, thinking for a start is a human thing. It only happens here in this body. So once we are relieved of the body and we’re in soul energy, or we’re visiting because we’re in between lives or beyond, then we don’t have. The brain or the thoughts to deal with. We don’t have hierarchy; we don’t have time. Nothing of our human existence, and most of all, we don’t have emotion.
That’s why it’s just this amazing feeling there. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: That’s incredible. Now in this space, lots of questions that usually come up when people start talking about past life regression and then the in between life space and then obviously the soul contracts, soul family members as I mentioned before. In these sessions, is it true that we actually choose what period we’re going to reincarnate into a certain period?
Toni Reilly: I honestly can’t say that for sure because the work that I do is for people to feel better now in this life yes, we go back to past lives to help them understand now as well. But when we go in between, they’re usually, they’re asking about now. So the answers that they get in my sessions are for now.
So whether they chose to come into this time zone, or there’s another era,
I should say, I’m not sure because always I’m dealing with this life or predominantly everything’s leading back to what’s going on now and why.
Johnny Burke: the whole purpose of regression therapy, as described in Many Lives, Many Masters was there was a female patient that had some kind of an issue. And in this case, the practitioner was just trying to find the cause, and the origin of the problem. Correct?
Toni Reilly: Yes, she had many symptoms.
Johnny Burke: She had many symptoms, but what he did not count on being taken back to a life that took place what was it, 3000 years ago? That’s how he discovered it.
Toni Reilly: What does happen, Johnny though, in regression is they don’t go linear. Let’s say someone’s dealing with let’s say, anxiety for just pulling something out of the air. They might go back to a caveman time, and then if they go to another life, it might be in the sixties. So there’s no, there’s no linear time when they’re recalling them. They go to where there’s something that’s happened that makes sense of what’s going on now. It’s very cool.
Johnny Burke: Almost sounds like a science fiction movie. And also speaking of movies, I’ve heard many, many times, again, from practitioners and experiencers, that planning of the next incarnation amongst several soul family members, I imagine it’s like casting a play or a movie.
Toni Reilly: Yes,
Johnny Burke: Is that your experience or that of your clients?
Toni Reilly: Yes, It, is like casting a film, it really is. And also something I’ve discovered from all 20 years of working with this is everything is destined. Everything is planned. Every little detail, I think people get annoyed about it and they’re like, ‘oh, you know, its allowing, side stepping and not taking responsibility. ‘But actually what it does is it helps you become at ease with everything that happens and be at more at peace especially when obviously we’re really only concerned when terrible things happen or things that make us feel bad, but you get into this more philosophical mindset of, oh, well, it was meant to be. So why? And start looking for why instead of feeling so victimized by our lives and our circumstances. It’s extraordinary. And I think this is something also that people discover when they do regression or go beyond that, life is planned, and we are to be with certain people or certain souls
Johnny Burke: Everything happens for a reason.
Toni Reilly: It does happen for a reason. Yeah, and often it’s not until hindsight that people are able to fathom, ‘ oh, I get why that happened. ‘And then of course in the moment it’s also not beneficial to tell someone that in the moment when they’re going through something because they have to reach that understanding themselves. Otherwise you’re poking a bee if you like. But yeah, it all turns out,
Johnny Burke: That means that they are on their path and to interrupt them on their path, you’re not really doing the good that you think that you might be
Toni Reilly: That’s right, yes.
Johnny Burke I think it’s amazing that no matter who I talk to, who has real credible experience in this space, in the L B L space , the accounts, the details are a little bit different, but the, the structure, the hierarchy, the way how things happen is almost identical. It’s not that I’m in a rush to get there, but I don’t know. It seems pretty, seems like it’s a lot of fun to me,
Toni Reilly: Oh, Johnny, that means if you have not done an L B L yourself, we must do one.
Johnny Burke: That might be a discussion for another day, but yeah, I get that. You’re not the first person to bring that up. When I do the interviews, someone will say, a guest speaker will say, ‘so, Johnny, when are you going to do this?’ and I invariably will respond. ‘Oh, I’m going to get around to it at some point.’
I don’t want to make this about me. It’s about the speaker. But that’s a fair point. Your book, Awake, the Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here. Tell us a little bit about that. I would imagine this work had a lot to do with inspiring that work.
Toni Reilly: It did. It did because as I started to do this work, it was a culmination. At the same time, I became so aware of my own stuff and the two of these things together, working with people and also becoming really aware, self-aware of myself, made me realize that absolutely everything in life was quite simple, really. And that one person’s life is easy to outline as to why, why we have these parents? Why did we go to that school? Why do we go to 20 schools? just every little detail has a purpose.
This is what I tried to do when I wrote The Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here, was to just outline the simplicities in life that are fundamental to an individual’s life and how it plays out. So that was what I tried to portray because also I felt that people have this idea that the purpose of life is something different to what it is. It’s very simple, really. The purpose of life is every moment of every day. That’s what I tried to portray in that book.
I did some things, I met somebody towards the end of my marriage. People didn’t talk about these things that happen. But when you work in therapy with people, it happens all the time. And we are quiet about relationships and relating to people, which is a massive part of the purpose of life and judging it from a moral perspective, but really it doesn’t matter because all it does is make people hide what they’re doing.
It’s still all going on because we’re here having these experiences and we’re meant to encounter this person or that person. So I tried to be very honest with what I had done and what I had experienced. I’ll umbrella it with love at first sight, which is this irresistible pull when you come across somebody in your park. But this happens not just for love, it happens for all sorts of things.
So the book was generally about I’m going to call myself an everyday life and how it transpires. Of course, everyone doesn’t get into past lives, but still,
Johnny Burke: A simple answer to what is the purpose of life and why we’re here. It’s pretty much just to learn because as you just mentioned before, everything has a purpose. Every event. And I believe it’s for all of us to learn, not just me, the soul group, even all the bad stuff.
Toni Reilly: I feel like when I first started, it was very we’re here to learn what are we learning this time? But what I also discovered was it was less about learning in terms of we’re paying back, or we didn’t learn it last time. We’re going to learn it next time. I found that that’s not really how it works and that it was easier to call it, we’re here for an experience. I think people also get wound up in, ‘have I learned what I was supposed to? ‘We all do the things mapped out, and we’re going to have our experiences and we will learn. Everybody learns through life. We grow, we evolve. It’s a cycle of life. But I feel like when we are learning, people get this idea that they could fail. But we can’t fail. We’re all going to go through our process just as it was planned or pre-planned, pre outlined, and it will turn out that we experience exactly what we were meant to.
Johnny Burke: By saying that everything is planned, there are several people, well, probably millions, that really have a problem with that, especially when bad things happen. Right. But you’re saying. And not just you, by the way, that bad things happen- some of them are actually planned, even like the horrible things because we are apparently supposed to learn from them. Right? Okay.
: So self-awareness, in your work is very important. I believe your quote says “self-awareness is the ultimate activism.”
Toni Reilly: Yes. yes. Self-awareness, I feelis the way that we can change the world because if we can be aware of ourselves and what we’re doing and what affects us, we then become naturally tolerant of other people who maybe aren’t aware of what they’re doing or why. So somehow, and you know, the result of self-awareness really is calmness.? A calmness. It’s peace, I suppose. But this calmness that, Where you don’t feel like you need to get all involved in, in what’s going on with other people or even within the world because if you take care of yourself and what you are putting out there, it ripple effects out and good keeps happening or people are growing from their experiences and not getting so involved in outwardly not looking at themselves, which is what I feel activism is. It’s like, whoa, you probably need to sort your own stuff out first, before dictating to other people what’s right or wrong. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: Do you feel that knowing what you know now that everything is planned for purpose for us to learn evolve. Is it a waste of time and energy to judge anyone where it’s actually easier to make the choice that they are exactly where they need to be, like everybody, and it’s a waste of time for me to judge them?. So I’m not going to interfere. I’m just going to say they are where they are, whether I like them or not, whether they irritate me or not. Do you agree?
Toni Reilly: Yes, yes, I do agree, but I think we are still people here and judgment is also part of the human experience, and we do need it to some extent, to survive as a person because we need to be discerning. But I think judging people, it’s probably no matter how self-aware you get, I think there’s always still going to be at least a little bit of judgment because people are so different to ourselves and it, it can be confronting. I guess what would happen is, It’s for less time. And you always come back to, ‘well, they’re doing their thing and they are so don’t get yourself all worked up about it.
Johnny Burke: Right. Discernment is absolutely necessary. You’re right, right. But when I say judging someone in a negative way without knowing anything about this person, to me that’s just a waste of energy really.
Toni Reilly: I feel like that is a waste of energy. I do think that is the piece that you, come to where why would you Yeah. And I guess that’s kind of nasty judgment, isn’t it? It happens quite a bit, but certainly once the awareness kicks in Yeah. that all just filters away.
Johnny Burke: That reminds me of something else-you also talk about, Gen Z as being different.
Toni Reilly: Yes.
Johnny Burke: Tell us what that means for us and because that’s relevant to this time period we in right now.
Toni Reilly: Yes, it is. So this is also part of the work that I did, is I developed a part of the self-awareness work is I developed a platform based on numerology. I call it life map. Because of that, what I know is a certain energy. The energy of the numbers from our birthdate. Of course it goes deeper, but based on just the birthdate, it determines what our character and our personality is going to be, and it determines the parts of ourselves that we cannot change.
We could try, but we cannot change who we are inherently at the core. what happens with the Gen Z is it starts in I, I think the mid-nineties, but actually when it really changes is in 2000 because from the year 2000, every single individual who was born gets two energy in their character, in their personality, and they don’t all have a one or a nine, which we all had because we were born in 19, whatever. So nine energy is thinking, so ideas, one energy is practical, it’s doing, whereas two energy is the heart and the feeling and the intuition. So what happens when you get these kids, or they’re 23 now actually, but we got these kids starting to be born. They all have that two. The energy of that two, within their psyche inherently.
So what that does is it comes with natural empathy and something they can’t avoid. some of them didn’t even get one or nine or the other practical or thinking energy. So what it means is they default to intuition, not logic. And because of that, they are more easily able to read what’s going on. Probably even if they’re in a bad situation, they’re most likely be able to come to the realization of why is that person doing that? Or why are they like that? Why is this happening? so that’s the main difference. They’re sensitive. They’re all sensitive. And if you can imagine across humanity, no matter their culture, they all come with this inherent kindness or sensitivity, so that’s why they’re different.
Johnny Burke: I noticed that there’s a difference between the Gen Z kids and the millennials that came before them. I thought it was just my imagination, apparently not. Interesting stuff. And you also mentioned intuition and heart. Heart, heart technology, heart- centered. These are all just terms that have been coming up a lot. One woman told me recently that type of thing is a marker of a different dimension, higher consciousness. Do you agree or is that something completely different?
Toni Reilly: I do think it would be associated with higher consciousness, but if I were talking about higher consciousness, I would talk about us as a soul because. When we’re just souls, we’re everything. We just don’t have these human thoughts or characteristics. So we are very pure, and I think that the heart, as far as being a human, the heart center of us or our intuition is the closest that we get within our, our jumbled up humanness that is part of that consciousness, yes.
Johnny Burke: So could that possibly be a marker of the 5D that a lot of these intuitives are talking about these days?
Toni Reilly: I have to be honest and say I’ve heard people talk about 5D, but I don’t know what it is. I’ve never studied it or even really read about it, but what I know is from the work that I’ve been doing is as humanity is evolving and what it’s doing is evolving back almost to when we began in some ways because we were much more intuitive and they were watching what the moon was doing and the stars and these kinds of things, but much more intuitive.
So we’re evolving back to that more connected people. and I think we’ve had our explosion of corporates and all that, and it’s slowly, well, actually, probably pretty fast in the last little while coming down and bringing us back to a sort of more connected humanity. So it’s changing and I do feel that humanity is an experiment that we’re all part of. With each generation it evolves some more e exactly as it’s meant to. So everything that’s happened through the course of humanity has meant to happen. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: So it could be that we are returning to a time or a place in our consciousness where we were more intuitive and we’re more heart-centered, maybe even more towards a group consciousness rather than a zero-sum type thing where it’s always me against you and there’s got to be a loser for every winner. Speaking of which, have you had experience in your sessions where one of your clients was taking back to an ancient time, were maybe the civilizations were more advanced consciousness wise?
Toni Reilly: Yes, it happens all the time. The simplest thing to say is, Earth is not the only place that we incarnate. So yes, people go to other places, other places, and they’re all, I guess, places of experimentation or experiences for the soul to have. but I noticed with any other place that people go, it’s always more energetic and- I’m going to say easier than Earth. Earth is the hard one. The other places are much more,
Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that.
Toni Reilly: I’m just going to say energetic and different. Nice. Even.Yeah.
Johnny Burke: agree. I’ve heard that quite a bit. , I don’t want to call them stories because that makes it sound like fiction. I’m hearing a lot more about people incarnating from other worlds, other systems. And I know that there’s that part of the population that will always kind of roll their eyeballs and smirk when people talk about Pleiadeans and all these other, far-out places, which I know nothing about, but I hear it a lot you probably hear it a lot more than I do. pretty interesting stuff,right? And I’ve heard, speaking of which, that earth is a primitive- I heard this last week, a primitive and warlike planet that’s how we’re looked upon.
Toni Reilly: Yeah, it’s very dense and very, hands on, literally, because we don’t have any of this touch, taste, sound, nothing like that unless we’re here in this body. But Johnny, you know what, on the other places that people go, what’s really exciting about this work is people come along not knowing anything about other places. They’re so mainstream and still sometimes they’ll go off somewhere and they come back like,’ what the was that?’ ‘But it’s happened. They felt it. They saw it, and it’s so reassuring because they’re as shocked as anyone else, and most likely we’re an eye roller before you know if they’d even heard of it at all.
Johnny Burke: I was one of those people not really that long ago. I was always interested in, past lives and near-death experiences and that type of thing, and I never had a doubt about the survival of consciousness, even when I was a young kid. But when people start talking about ETs and different planets and Pleiadeans, I wouldn’t roll my eyeballs, but I would think, seriously? Okay.
I’m as skeptical as many people because I have to think what’s the motive? What would incentivize someone to make that up? Are they selling something? Is it a book? Is it a show? Is it a movie? I don’t know. But the more and more I dive into this, I hear about this stuff a lot. My question is always going to be ,okay for once and for all, would one of these beings come down in a ship or whatever and just put all this to rest so we can get on with our lives?
And according to someone that’s going to be on the show, and I think in about a month, he’s saying there is going to be a new cosmic master that’s going to come down here. And I said,’ is it going to be next week?’ I don’t know Johnny. ‘And I said, ‘great. Can you get him to interfere in the next election? Had to bring that up he had no idea. He got a laugh out of it. Anyway. Speaking of missions, you have a mission to change the face of psychology.
And you also believe that soul life coaching is the next step in the evolution of past life regression. So did the mission or the goal to change the face of psychology create the soul life coaching? Or did the soul life coaching come first?
Toni Reilly: Well, it all started as past life regression as I mentioned, I was on my own sort of self-awareness path, so, it all ended up sort of coming together. Past life regression quickly turned into between lives or there were stages where people were going elsewhere, and then of course, beyond which I call it home,
I think that a lot of people who’ve had any of these experiences call at home. But what happened with it was, I was very conscious that you’re still here as a person and we’re living life and we’re having relationships and we have to survive here, and we have to make the most of it. Life is fun. There’s some good stuff we can do here that we can’t do when we’re not in our body.
So I felt like if we can bring both together, we can make this life better and good, and hopefully a lot more fearless, making the most of it while we’re here. Because the truth is we are, we’re all leaving here we know there’s always been birth and death, so we’re all going through, it’s like make the most of it while you’re here if it’s at all possible.
So I feel like this type of coaching, or this type of psychology is so positive for people to get them back to a place where they can really live, live better, live well, feel good about themselves. So that’s what the whole mission turned into.
Johnny Burke: Okay. Do you feel that this work, especially the L B L space, has anything to do with the expansion of consciousness- which we’re not the only ones talking about that, obviously. Is there a connection there or not really? You tell me.
Toni Reilly: Oh, I’m sure there is. I’m sure there is. When somebody, when a person goes in between or beyond or even into a past life, there is without a doubt- whether they question or not, healthy skeptic, it happens and they know that they didn’t make it up. The emotion comes with it. So across the board, they are immediately more conscious and knowing that there’s so much more than just life and us here, our body. So it’s super awakening or beneficial.
Johnny Burke: To answer my other question, how this can change psychology, it seems to be that this type of work can not only expand consciousness -for all of us, hopefully, but it can also get to the heart of an issue a lot quicker than conventional. What do you call it? Couch therapy? Or whatever it is, probably a lot less expensive as well. What are your thoughts?
Toni Reilly: Well with me it’s an investment, but with soul life coaches, it’s the most amazing experience. It gets to the core of the issues fast and it helps people make sense of their lives and what’s going on and why. That’s the key. Soul Life Coaching is going to help you understand why and maybe one other thing I’d love to just say real quick is, every single one of us comes here with insecurity. It’s part of our mission. It’s part of the purpose of life. And when you understand what yours is and, and potentially, the ones that others have, there’s not that many. Everything just seems to open up and make sense as to why we react the way we do, why we behave the way we do. Some things we can’t change, some we can, and it helps our problems or challenges that we face make sense and dissolve, I suppose. Help us heal and move through.
Johnny Burke: Agree. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Anything else that we should know?
Toni Reilly: Woo. Well, my favorite thing is to believe in yourself, doing the self-work it’s magical. You can’t turn back after that.
Johnny Burke: No turning back. Okay. I think I’m going to quit there. I don’t think I can top that. Great. And so, Tony, thanks so much for joining us this morning. excellent information. How can our listeners find you online?
Toni Reilly: Johnny, they can find me on my website. I’m on all social media, but my website is tonireiilyinstitute.com.