#92 Lucy Brand: The Metaphysical World Part II
September 2, 2022
Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Lucy Brand. She is an energy Alchemist, galactic shaman, divine channeler, and founder of Energetic Essence Healing. Today, we will be continuing our discussion on the metaphysical world. Lucy, welcome back to the program.
Lucy Brand: Thank you for having me again. I think I had so much fun the first time. I’m glad to be
Johnny Burke: We actually did have a very good time talking about the metaphysical world, in the first episode. And I wanted to make sure that we didn’t miss anything. So for those who may not have heard the first episode, the first installment, what is your understanding of metaphysics and, otherwise the metaphysical world ?
Lucy Brand: Yeah. So my interpretation or understanding of it is it’s how the universe comes together, but in a way, we can’t quite figure it out. So, everything from universe dimensions, different realms, us as beings, other beings. But also, you know how love- there’s no mathematical equation for love. There is just a magic in love. There’s no rhyme or reason or strategy to it. And that’s what I think metaphysics is about the universe. It’s more of a feeling of how everything comes together rather than statistics like science
Johnny Burke: I think it’s interesting that you mention there is no equation or, algorithm for love. But when you talk about love, I don’t think that it’s the fuzzy love that we associate with relationships. It’s more of a, higher love that kind of bonds us all together.
Lucy Brand: Yeah. If I’m talking about the source of all that is, or the divine, or some people call it God, or like the universe that or higher consciousness. That’s a different kind of love to human love if you see what I mean. But again, there’s no mathematical equation for the divine, and how I might see the divine and you see, it might be different as well – different interpretations.
Johnny Burke: And if there was an equation or if there was a, math or a calculus for love I’m sure Elon Musk will probably try to buy that company, right?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, I think everyone would be. I think everyone would do that if we found the formula for love.
Johnny Burke: Yeah. The formula, the calculus. Yeah. It’s a great idea though. So how do time and space fit into the grand picture of the metaphysical world? I’ve heard lots of different theories and I’ve also heard that time might even be an illusion. What are your thoughts?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, my understanding is that time is an illusion. It’s a human construct so that we can better understand the universe cuz otherwise our minds are just blown. We can’t wrap our heads around something. So with what I look at, I believe that time doesn’t exist. So past lives don’t actually exist, cuz it’s all happening at the same time, across different dimensions, and across different timelines,but that’s quite hard to wrap your head around sometimes.
Johnny Burke: indeed.
Lucy Brand: I see it when we heal in this lifetime or even in another lifetime, you see how it frees up different things, challenges that are happening in other lifetimes. So it kind of makes sense. It’s like a ripple effect.
Johnny Burke: Could that be related to the butterfly effect?
Lucy Brand: Hmm. Completely, but just not necessarily just on planet earth, but throughout the whole of the universe.
Johnny Burke: It’s not the first time I’ve heard that. So if I understand you correctly if we heal something in this lifetime, it’s also possible to heal something in, let’s say another lifetime- the time element can be very confusing. You’re right. It’s a lot to get our heads around, but is that possible?
Lucy Brand: Oh completely. That happens all the time. I tend to be the last resort for a lot of people. And they’ve tried everything in this dimension, this world, and it’s not working. So I will look at their past lives and not that past lives exist, but that’s the term we’ve got for it. And something will have happened in their past life that is actually impacting them now in this current reality. So we heal that, and then it completely changes their current reality. Like they’re able to let go or move on or something just heals within them.
Johnny Burke: but it’s a lot easier for us to imagine an axis going from a, to B like a horizontal axis as if to say, well, you have an issue now because in a past life, challenge someone to a duel, and you lost, and that’s why you’ve always felt a certain way about something.
I remember reading about Edgar Cayce, in one of his cases he was doing a reading for a gentleman that apparently had a past life of Alexander Hamilton, who we know died in a gun duel. I think it’s easier for us to think “okay that goes back to 1812 and now here we are in 20 22. Now that I’ve resolved that I feel better about my life in the present.
Lucy Brand: Yeah, but it’s also like phobias. It can be anything. Like I had an absolute terrified of cruise ships. Couldn’t even look at them. They just terrified me. And when I explored it deeper for myself, I actually died around Victorian times on a cruise ship, it sank in the Atlantic on its way to America. So I went down with the ship and I was like, “oh, that makes so much sense.” So what I would do is go into that life and just heal it so that we can let it go. Cuz we carry so much stuff in our beings. Karma or whatever you wanna call it. So it’s kind of healing that on an energetic level, it kind of frees you up and lightens you up. You’re not as burdened.
Johnny Burke: Now that particular lifetime, you were able to go back and you remember being on the cruise ship did you actually go as far as to when you actually died and when the ship went under?
Lucy Brand: Yeah drowning, drowning is quite common in past lives. A lot of our past lives are not that nice. I’ve experienced past lives on different planets and different galaxies and things like that. So in one of them, I was really not a nice person or being, in this particular galaxy. And so my understanding right now is the reason I do the work I do in the world is I’m kind of making up for some really bad stuff that I did in other lifetimes. So my karma…
Johnny Burke: Well, you must be doing a great job because you seem to be a very nice person. So I think you’re not in arrears anymore. You’re caught up. That’s my guess. Anyway.
Lucy Brand: we’ll see, but I.
Johnny Burke: Okay. Yeah, only time will tell- that’s true. Let’s talk about the dimensions because we’ve talked before about how we’re multidimensional beings. Do the dimensions correspond with the ones that are commonly discussed? Third dimensions, the fourth dimension, the fifth dimension, and going up to whatever the end is. We hear a lot about 3d and 5 d. Does the multidimensionality have to do with that discussion or is it, something completely different?
Lucy Brand: Well, I feel that there’s infinite dimensions. So it’s the same as I feel there’s infinite Chakras, the vortexes of energy, plugging us into the universe above us and plugging us into the earth below us. So I think pretty much most things in this universe are infinite. The dimensions are infinite and the way I kind of try and rationalize this maybe is that,in the different dimensions, there’s different aspects of myself living. So that could be in a past life. It could be on another planet. It’s all happening at the same time but in a different dimension. One of my references to this is, if we look at Jesus turning water into wine and bread, like feeding the thousands. I wonder what dimension he was living in to be able to do that? What dimension did he see to be able to manifest that? He must have had no limiting beliefs or ?
Johnny Burke: He was on another level
Lucy Brand: Yeah. And
Johnny Burke: As are the other ascended masters right?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, exactly. So that’s what makes me feel that we are only scraping the surface of the different dimensions that are possible. But I do feel that planet earth is going through a shift right now as a whole planet into another, I’m not sure whether I would call it a dimension. I call it a new way of being the new paradigm, which I believe is here. And that’s what we’re kind of trying to navigate right now.
Johnny Burke: it seems like there’s an awful lot of upheaval. Everybody knows what’s in the news these days and even on the world front with what’s happening with Ukraine and Russia. When you mention a shift that reminds me of what some other speakers that have been on the show, talk about, moving away from the masculine energy to the feminine energy, or does that have anything to do with the divine feminine? or is that a different construct?
Lucy Brand: Yes, I believe it is. The old paradigm which was called the Piscean Age was very much focused on the masculine. It was set up for the masculine. The new paradigm, which is the Age of Aquarius is more about love and unity, and equality. So I actually feel it’s about the divine feminine, having a seat at the table with the divine masculine and every other energies in between , rather than one being higher than the other, because the thing with the Piscean Age, the old paradigm, it was very hierarchical. So it was structured.
That’s what we’re seeing right now is these structures are just falling away, cuz they’re no longer working for this new way of coming in this new way of being, which again is about love. It’s about community. The old paradigm was about competition. What can I get? And the Aquarius age is more about, we’ll see advancements in technology, we’ll see advancements in helping the greater good with technology as well. I believe this prediction, whether this comes true or not,, because it depends on people’s choices as we have free will. But people going back to growing their own vegetables, more sustainable living, and more thought and care in the way we are living towards mother earth and planet earth.
Johnny Burke: This would be aligned with the concept of community and unity. What you mentioned before- everything was about competition, that’s still firmly in place. You compete for a job, you compete for the girlfriend or the boyfriend, or when I was a musician, there was such a competition for bands to get record deals that it basically just squeezed all the good, all the fun out of it. And I think a lot of us kind of missed the point. It wasn’t about being better than someone else. It was about creating something that would hopefully last longer than we would, art as it were. Do you think that’s eventually gonna fall away and we are gonna actually enter that age? What you call the Aquarian Age.?
Lucy Brand: Yeah. So there are a couple of things I’d like to mention here. So first I think it’s already seeing it. So, it depends on what you follow. I’m not sure if I’m gonna remember her name correctly. But she was the front woman for the Dresden Dolls. Amanda Palmer. So she was one of the first people to adopt the crowdfunding way of producing an album. And she made a million by offering different levels. How it is done now, crowdfunding, she was kind of a pioneer in that, and that was the first time that someone didn’t have to go to a record company, went to their fans instead. So I’ve seen it change, in different things.
Another, so I’m a bit of a Dungeons and Dragons player. I also watch a show called Critical Role. Voice actors play Dungeons and Dragons in LA and they live stream it. So they wanted to create a cartoon version, an animation of their show. They went to all the big names. No one was interested. So they crowdfunded it and they again blew records out of the water. I think they got $12 million. So then all the big giants then came knocking. And so I feel like it is happening, but it’s kind of an underground movement at the moment. And we’re gonna see more of it, I believe because again, the old structures and the old way of doing stuff where it’s competition isn’t gonna work.
And the other side of this is you are not in competition with someone else because what you bring to the table is different from what someone else brings to the table. And you are just gonna click with someone and they’re gonna click with someone else. But as long as you are your authentic self, then you’re always gonna win. If I can use that word, there is no competition cuz you can’t be in competition with that other person, cuz you are uniquely you.
Johnny Burke: That’s definitely a good way to look at it. I just really wish that the job marketplace in the corporate world or whatever you wanna call it, there would be more of a community feel where everyone brings their unique quality, their unique skill set, where there isn’t such a competition. Because that, to me, it’s like a minus sum game for every winner there has to be a loser. And I think you’re right at some point, in the future of mankind , for us to really progress, that’s gotta basically fall to the wayside.
Let’s talk about your work and what you do. And some of your experiences with this metaphysical world that we’re talking about today.
Lucy Brand: As I’ve said in the previous episode, I was born with a lot of my gifts, because I come from a long line of witches, but then I have dived into studying shamanism and different elements to kind of, activate myself in different powers or healing modalities. Some of the things I’ve experienced, have been quite out there and I think one of the most intense one was I just finished a shamanic training, program, and I really got to delve into the different worlds that were available and I was with a client and, It was almost like this shadow entity- that’s what I tend to call them. For me, they look like, in the old cartoons where your shadow would do completely a different thing to what the cartoon character is doing. That’s what they look like. And he was being particularly aggressive and silencing this client. It was kind of scary. I’m not gonna lie. cause I was kind of a bit new to all this. But I called in reinforcements I called in my angels, called in extra people to help me remove him and take him to the light.
Then it was after this experience that I just realized that we are all-powerful. Nothing can really hurt us unless we choose to- we have choice. And it was that moment where I just was like, “wow”, like a recognition of how powerful I am, but so is everyone, because your word is law, anything in those other realms, those other dimensions can’t touch you, can’t hurt you if you say no.
Johnny Burke: I think I told you about this before when I went to a Reiki healer for the first time. I stood in a circle with the ladies. I think there were four or five of them. And, the ringmaster, the leader, said, what sounded like an incantation almost, or just prayer. “Only light and love can come in and only light and love can leave.” That’s basically saying ”these are the boundaries.’ So everybody else, if you’re not light and love, get lost, or don’t bother, cuz we’re not gonna let you in.
Lucy Brand: I do that all the time with my house. I say, “only beings of light are welcome here. All else must leave now. “And then it’s done. Like
Johnny Burke: I like how you said that – leave now. Or, I’m gonna have Lucy Brand come after you and then you’re really gonna be in trouble. You think you’re hurting now? Leave now while you can. Seriously though, that’s very good for all of us to know that we are powerful beings and, it reminds me that the Vampire Diaries where apparently a vampire could not come into the house unless they’re invited. It’s the same concept. Right? , and you don’t have to be religious obviously,
Lucy Brand: Not at all. I think it’s really good for you to do it. Like if you’ve been struggling a bit, so if I’ve been ill, my defenses will have been low. So that’s a time that a shadow entity might see a chink in my armor so might decide to come and hang out in my house and make me feel a bit more miserable or whatever. So that’s why I would definitely say something like that: “Only beings of light are welcome here, or else must leave now “and say it in an authoritarian voice as well. Especially after you’ve not been feeling well, or maybe you’ve been feeling a bit down or whatever, just to cleanse your house, like cleanse where you are. You could even do it at work as well. And see if like, no one bothers you that you’re not a fan of.
Johnny Burke: right. Exactly. No, that’s good .That’s good. right. A protective bubble. Okay. So I remember you were telling me about an instance with one of your clients. We didn’t have time to go onto this the last time, but, apparently, some of your clients are having their first incarnation on Earth, which could be challenging because, if they’ve had lifetimes on other planets that were easier- this place is it’s rough- that’s what I’ve been told anyway. Tell us a little bit about that.
Lucy Brand: Yes. I just kind of can spot people that it’s their first lifetime here because they tend to be quite confused at how the world works, why it is such a certain way and why it’s so hard, especially if they’ve been on other planets where they’ve manifested like that, or it’s just been a lot more love and light and easier. From what I understand, it’s a real honor and privilege to come to planet earth. And the reason we come back is that we want to work off karma and this is the quickest planet to do that on because it is so challenging. I think when we are on the other side, it’s almost like a classroom situation where you’re like, “oh, I’m gonna work off that karma, or do that. And then when you’re actually born here and you get here, you realize that it’s just not that easy and that maybe taking on all that karma in this one lifetime was a bit much
Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that you come here to learn, but it’s not as hard at home because everything’s love and light and that’s great but do some people decide? Well, I’ve been there before and I’m never going back. The last time I was there, President Trump was ruling the country and I never, ever wanna see that again. Is that possible?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, completely. It doesn’t matter what universe you’re in, what planet you’re on, or even if you’re on the other side with the divine, you have a choice. So you choose to come back. My understanding again, of what I’ve channeled and asked my guides is that some people, when they have particularly traumatic lifetimes or, how do I word this? particularly, not very nice in their lifetime they actually go to a healing place. Some people aren’t allowed to reincarnate on planet earth for if we’re gonna put it in human terms years and years and years, cuz they need to heal from what they’ve done or they need to learn lessons from what they’ve done. On the other side, it is all love and light. So they’d never be reprimanded, but there’d be almost like shown a reel of what they did. And if that person has then become love and light, cause they’ve gone to the other side, they will be, I imagine pretty disappointed in themselves. so but I think, let me just check, um, yeah, so we always have a choice. Has anyone said they can’t come back? No.
Johnny Burke: Were you asking yourself or were you asking one of your beings of light- friends?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, I was just asking like the guide of mine, like of being of light. I was just checking in with them because I don’t have all the answers, but I can get them for you.
Johnny Burke: Oh, my, that could be a dangerous thing for some of us. I’m not sure I really want to know all the answers to my questions, but that’s probably a discussion for another day. interesting concept though. So since you’ve channeled certain beings, beings of light, and angels, do you have a visual picture of what home- the other side actually looks like?
Lucy Brand: Yes and no. Like, to me it looks like many, many different rooms, depending on what you wanna know, where you wanna go or what dimension you wanna be in. I’ve said that the same soul circle ,each other to work off their karma. So if my grandma hasn’t reincarnated, when I’m on the other side, I’ll probably wanna go out and hang out with her for a while. and just be with her for a bit. They’re all in different maybe rooms is wrong, different dimensions. It’s like different planes that I see that happening. And there’s some people that just don’t wanna come back. They don’t wanna work off their karma. And that’s cool too. That’s okay. Like it really is. Any decision that you make is absolutely okay with the divine, cuz they’re only love and light and forgiveness. So it doesn’t matter what you do really. You’re always gonna be forgiven for it.
Johnny Burke: Wow. Okay. Now is it true then ,when someone goes home – apparently all of us go home. There is no hell as you and others have told me before. When someone goes to that in-between space, and they make their soul contracts and, then they come back, is it true that a portion of the soul stays home? Can you tell us a little bit more about how that works ?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, that is true because we’re multidimensional beings living in different dimensions. So there’s a part of you. That’s always gonna be home, there’s like different parts of you scattered around the universe. if you think of your soul as multidimensional and so expansive and infinite, and that’s just, let’s say your soul and my soul is that……, I’m not sure. Let me just check. No, I’m not sure it would be possible to contain it in one human . Cause it’s too awesome-if that makes sense
Johnny Burke: Yeah, it does. I just imagined for a moment you and I can be in a different dimension watching us in this discussion. And I can hear you saying, “well, Johnny, you’re pretty good at this. I didn’t even have to give you the script”, and we’re just having a joke about it.
Lucy Brand: Yeah, Totally.
Johnny Burke: I’m just making this up ;I’m imagining that, but I’ve had another guest speaker that came on recently that pretty much gave me the same scenario and I thought,’ okay I can see that happening. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’m not gonna say it isn’t happening.”
That would explain how we’re multidimensional beings and we’re able to be in different places at the same time. What about when you have a dream about people and places that, let’s say it’s in the present- It seems to be present day ,and you’ve never met them in your physical life, but they are absolutely familiar. Is that an example of how part of us is in another dimension with these people, and that’s why we’re dreaming about them?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, that could be so many things. That could bethat you’ve had a past life with this person, or they’re in another dimension and perhaps they are one of the souls that circle you, but right now they’re in a different dimension. Or, we go places in our sleep, our consciousness, our higher self, our soul, if you want, it’ll go places in sleep. So, you’ll go and meet people while you are sleeping.
Johnny Burke: it does seem like that though doesn’t it? It really does. And I’ve had several of these dreams and I’m thinking, I’ve never met this girl, but I somehow feel like I know her or him or whatever. And this place, which I’ve never been to, but I know I’ve been here before, but this body’s never really been there . The multidimensional explanation would kind of make that a little bit more plausible. At least that’s what I think now.
Lucy Brand: When you do stuff that I do and jump timelines, it makes it hard to pinpoint when an event actually happened in your life. But I think it was maybe in 2021 and I was waking up so tired, so exhausted. When I checked in with myself, what is going on? Why am I so tired? My spirit was actually going to America and was helping people in America. Just reassuring people, in that spirit dimension. When my spirit was coming back in the morning, I was exhausted.
And a lot of the time I felt quite down, cuz it was quite serious, tough stuff that was going on in the states. So what I had to say again, is because I’m the authority in my life. I said I’m happy for my spirit and soul to go off at night to heal while I sleep. But when you come back, I want you to close all portals and dimensions with love and light so that they’re not gonna bring any other energies back that are lower energies, and lucy, the human, needs enough rest to be able to have a great day the next day and feel good about herself The next day I jumped out of bed, I was like,” oh yes, my energy’s back.” It is so powerful the awareness,
Johnny Burke: It’s moments like these, that I’m glad that I do transcripts, I know people are gonna want to go ‘where is this written down?’ Well, if you go towww.closertovenus.com, everything from episode 38 and up has a transcript. I think some people like to read anyway,
Lucy Brand: Yeah, I’m one of those people
Johnny Burke: it is very good to know. cause it’s not something that we really hear every day. The lives on the other planets, the decisions? I imagine this is planned in between incarnations. Do we make that decision or is it made for us?
Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah. We make all the decisions. It’s totally our choice, as to what you wanna do and what planet you wanna reincarnate on and you even choose who your parents are, and who your family members are. You choose who you’re gonna see who you’re gonna meet. And then there is obviously stuff will happen because everyone has free will on this planet. So you might have a plan when you come here, but then someone else might do something that’s not part of that plan. And then things might change. Anything can change in a split second. That’s why predicting the future doesn’t always work because it depends on other people and the decisions they’ve made.
Johnny Burke: A lot of moving parts there. So is it possible that when my time comes and I decide where, and when I wanna reincarnate, can I say, ‘well, I’m gonna go to planet Zoltar , but I wanna make sure Prince, Michael Jackson and David Bowie are my best friends from like age five.’ Can we do that? That’s probably a lot to ask for.
Lucy Brand: I’m sure you can. I’m sure you can. I don’t think it’s a lot to ask for like, literally, I think there are no limits and source will just be, have what you want.
Johnny Burke: I forgot John Lenon and George Harrison as well. And I’ll even play bass if I have to. and I don’t offer that very often. it’s good to know. It’s I think it’s eye-opening for a lot of us -it makes the possibility of alien life and worlds and different planets a lot more believable because a lot of people are talking about being reincarnated on different planets . From what I’ve heard, from some of the mediums, they talk about how these beings don’t like being called aliens. Because alien means apart, and they apparently do not feel like they are apart from us- that we’re part of the same star family. Do you agree?
Lucy Brand: Yeah, I believe we all come from the same one- we’re all like part of the same thing, but just in a different form, a different aspect. I really just wanted to share something that’s coming through right now. Someone needs to hear this, that’s listening to the podcast. If when you make a decision or when you take an action, I would always preface that with,” for the highest of all involved” because then it offers it up to source basically. So whatever decision someone else might make for you, it will be kind of like a protection bubble. Again, the highest good for all involved will come out.
Johnny Burke: Is that the same thing as saying, ” I wish for a most beneficial outcome for my work life, my family, or most beneficial outcome for my podcast to reach the people that it has to reach. “And by the way, this isn’t live. So the only person that’s really listening other than you is me. So that message was for me? Or am I just dreaming?
Lucy Brand: No, it could be, but I think it’s for a listener somewhere. They’ll just tell me someone that listens to the podcast.
Johnny Burke: Which means someone other than you and I that’s listening right now ?
Lucy Brand: No, will be in the future. Yeah. Because time doesn’t exist.
Johnny Burke: Sorry- I stand corrected. It’s true. as. You make the rules, not me. That’s interesting though, there is no time. . What happens before we are incarnated here on earth?
Lucy Brand: It depends what you wanna do. Some people, have to go into deep states of healing because of what they’ve experienced on planet earth, in their lifetime. Other people, would wanna do more research, because if you think about it every time you come back, you’re gonna play a different character. If you like, you could be a different gender, working off different karma, different things. So I imagine that when you’ve had a life here, you might be like feeling quite inspired about how you wanna next reincarnate, or what movement or what thing you wanna bring forth or stand for, or, how you wanna change.Because I believe that every baby that’s born is of love and light, it’s only their experiences through life, which then make them what they are. I was checking in earlier about perhaps chemical imbalances in the mind, which then results in things.
But apart from that, I feel a lot of people come here with a purpose of some kind to heal ,or move or help the planet, but some of us just get lost or caught up and that’s okay too. There’s never gonna be any reprimand for it. But I think then when you go onto the other side, you’ll be like, ‘oh, I wish I could have done that differently, so maybe I’m gonna go and research how someone else did it. You have access to all these records of life and time. Well, you might be like,” do you know what?I need to take the next millennia off. I’m exhausted from that life. So I’m just gonna chill, hang out in this love and light” if they showed me everything on the other side, my brains would probably explode. I wouldn’t be able to handle it. So this is just my limited understanding as a human
Johnny Burke: You were just talking about the access to just about anything you want. Anything you need, to learn about. Is it true that manifestation, when you’re on the other side is instant ? I’ve heard this from people who’ve had near-death experiences where they think of something and they’re there, they think of someone, and they’re there. In your channeling experience and related experiences, do you find that to be true?
Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah, completely. So on the other side, there’s no resistance cuz there’s love and light. On planet earth,this is a very dense planet. It’s a very heavy planet. And there’s a lot of resistance. As humans, our emotions can get in the way, our beliefs can get in the way of us manifesting what we want. For example, we don’t feel worthy of it or whatever. So then we’re on a different frequency cuz our desires are hanging out in joy and bliss normally. And if we are feeling unworthy, we’re in a completely different frequency. And then there’s loads of resistance between you and your desire. Whereas on the other side, because you are love and light, it like manifests like that cuz there’s no resistance. There’s no unworthiness or not good enough. ‘
Johnny Burke: That’s something to look forward to for a lot of us. What is light language and how is it different from the other healing modalities?
Lucy Brand: So light language, how it manifests in me is sounds, so I speak it. And the way I can share it with you is I channel galactic beings of the light. So when I heal people with my light language, it’s the highest frequency that I’ve ever channeled. So in shamanic healing, it tends to be earth-based frequencies, which are denser. Whereas the angelic frequencies, the light language frequencies are much higher that lights, they transform, things like that, just so fast. Then you can channel different things for different things to be healed depending on what beings wanna come forward.
Johnny Burke: So light language is, is that the same thing an angelic frequency?
Lucy Brand: Yeah. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: Excellent.
Lucy Brand: It’s different for different people. Like different people channel. I get very giggly with mine cuz it’s quite high frequency.
Johnny Burke: It’s possible that we might have to devote another episode to the light language because it’s not something we hear about every day. Are there any other messages that are coming forward right at the moment?
Lucy Brand: No, I haven’t really got any other messages apart from just. Keep going, keep going, and just know that it’s all gonna work out okay. And that you’re doing a great job. That’s for everyone that’s listening and including you, Johnny too. it is just having that hug that reassurance. That’s how I see this podcast. It’s almost like a reassurance like it’s okay. It’s okay.
Johnny Burke: All right. well, that is reassuring, I think. great stuff. So, Lucy, thanks again for being with us, and coming back. That will conclude the metaphysical world part two, but who knows? We might have another episode of the light language down the pike. How can our listeners find more about you online?
Lucy Brand: On my website, www.lucy-brand.com. And you can also find me on Instagram @ energeticessencehealing.