#149 Gemma Norris: The Rise Of The Divine Feminine
Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Gemma Norris. She is a health therapist, founder of The Infinity Hub and host of The Voice Podcast. Her work is focused on holistic wellbeing, soul health, and planetary wellbeing. And today we’ll discuss the rise of the divine feminine and what role it plays in helping us remember who we are. Gemma, welcome to the program.
Gemma Norris: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you for having me.
Johnny Burke: I’m looking forward to discussing the rise of the divine feminine. But before we do that, I do believe this is the first time I’ve heard about planetary wellbeing. Tell us a little bit more about that.
Gemma Norris: How I believe in what we’re here for is to heal our planet through many aspects we pretty much know what needs to be done with our planet in terms of toxicity, however we heal our planet through our healing ourselves and how we take that individually through our health. So we individually, collectively are within this energy field that we are holding what I believe is a massive plaque of fear that free will has created, through thousands of years or generations and civilizations. And we are here to shift that low vibration and we do that through our health.
Johnny Burke: To shift from fear to love, or is it something else?
Gemma Norris: To love. Yeah. Everything for me, I believe, comes back to love, to loving yourself, and accepting yourself. That vibration, which is actually the same vibration as gold, the frequency.
Johnny Burke: All right. I like that. We’re definitely going to get into that too. I think that’s the first time I’ve heard gold being the same frequency is, did you say it’s the same frequency of love?
[Gemma Norris: Yeah, so it’s about 520 hertz. And when you look at gold, it’s the same banding, the same frequency as love. So the Solfeggio frequencies, that music were based on 520. And so gold itself is actually the same frequency,
Johnny Burke: Music based on 520. I played guitar in bands when I was younger and the way I was taught was that basically everything we did was in 440.
I’ve also heard about music composed in 4 32,this is completely new to me, but you’re saying there’s music that is composed in 520?
Gemma Norris: It was Solfeggio frequencies if I pronounced that correctly, and that’s to do with the variations of different frequencies like 4 3 2 is very healing as well. And 620 is another healing vibration to work music through. That’s not my field of expertise, but in terms of the research and that I have looked into that is where the vibrations, which you can correlate to emotions as well. So emotions will have a frequency and sounds have their variance frequencies and it ultimately comes back to the, the energetic frequency that we are vibrating and resonating.
Johnny Burke: Isn’t it true also that the frequencies of sound and sight are quite wide and what we as humans are able to access is actually a very narrow sliver for a lack of a better description of those frequencies. Is that true?
Gemma Norris: Yeah, so in terms of sites, you’ve got the visible light spectrum and that’s it. It’s very small. Then you go beyond that, don’t you? And actually, interestingly, a bee can see beyond what we can see and it’s the variations of light that’s emanates around flowers and that vibration. At the moment I’m saying this, I’m getting this intuitive sense. Just hang on a minute. Just hold that it’s I think our brains have the capacity and our hearts have the capacity to see greater. We could have the potential to see beyond that, but it’s not necessarily from our minds, it’s actually our hearts that will allow us to see that greater vibration, that frequency.
Johnny Burke: In the heart, but not the mind. Okay. Yeah, I’ll buy that. That makes sense to me. Now, the Infinity Hub, how did that start and otherwise, how did you find yourself on this path?
Gemma Norris: So I’ve been in health and wellbeing for, quite some time now, and just purely from the interest of actually reiki energy healing. And then that just took me down to the process of anatomy and physiology and just got completely fascinated by the body and the miracle that it is, and you can never get bored understanding in the body in the detail that it is. And it was literally covid that struck and for me because I wasn’t allowed to work on people because of the sort of lack of contact that you were allowed. I was actually getting really quite frustrated that I couldn’t help people.
The narrative that was going out there, that you had to be held in fear nothing you could do until you had these miracle vaccines come along. And, and I didn’t like that story. I didn’t like that narrative because there’s so much more you can do This is how I really have started to understand is that actually you can look at a negative and you can either stay in that fear of vibration and really fight it, or you go, well, there’s a negative there. So there must be a positive because the negative to be present, a positive has to be. I’m going to find the positive and what came to me really then was, I can only explain this divine intervention, was to say, create health empowerment. And it was just this real drive that I wanted to create was to empower the people through their own awareness and choices.
Johnny Burke: So you learned about energy healing and reiki, and I can’t help but notice that many intuitives tell me that the discovery of energy healing and reiki and even sometimes even shamanism, is their entry point to the intuitive world. Do you find that as well, in your work and, and your surroundings?
Gemma Norris: I think Reiki holds more of a boundary to be able to allow you to access it. I think we’re accessing it a lot. But we don’t know it. We have that intuition, we have that gut instinct, we have that inner knowing. Yet we don’t tend to value it so much. When, when you have something like shamanism or reiki, you sort of understand it, so it is like an essence that you’re holding it as a boundary. So yes, it’s, once you’ve kind of recognized that there you are not just making it up, that there’s something of deep value within you, you start to create that journey to understand more.
Johnny Burke: All right. So it’s not my imagination that does come up, quite a bit. And it can be something as innocent as they’re going to get a massage or something similar. And you find out that the practitioner has other modalities and next thing you know, you’re seeing sparkles, and you know, all kinds of other worldly stuff. And you start to think, wow, what exactly is this ?And maybe I should learn about it.
Gemma Norris: And that’s your universe, probably your soul, your guide taking you to that space when you’ve softened to allow yourself to trust that. And, and then next thing you know, you’ve got that link with somebody else that’s then opened another aspect of you.
Johnny Burke: Now from energy healing and reiki to the rise of the feminine, which is that the same thing as a divine feminine or is that something else?
Gemma Norris: So this is everything that I’m going to talk about is how I perceive things, or how I sort of understand it and how I kind of process it. So the rise of the feminine is still the same as the divine feminine. Yet it’s the individual and the collective. So we are all individually experiencing the divine rising of the feminine collectively. and for it to happen, it’s for all of us to start to acknowledge it and accept it and create that process. and for me, the rising of the feminine is our hidden aspects. It’s our sacred wisdom that’s coming back to us.
Johnny Burke: It’s coming back. So that implies that the divine feminine was at some point in the history of mankind at a much higher point, for lack of a better description. It seemed to also recall discussions about ancient civilizations, which I think we’re going to talk about later. How did you come to really discover the divine feminine? Or were you always aware of it?
Gemma Norris: No, I would say I’ve certainly not been always aware of it. There’s been aspects of me that just intuitively knew certain things would happen when I was younger. Even for instance, when I was seven and I thought, I just knew Deja vu was parallel universes. I mean, I was seven. I didn’t even know what parallel universes were. I would say with Covid these last three years has been very significant in terms of, I think having that stillness that we all had put upon us was moments of when you can start to access that feminine, that innate wisdom because we are so conditioned to be busy and somehow, we all think there’s something we’ve got to get to. There’s like an end goal. So we’ve got to rush there and get it as quickly as we possibly can.
So we are heavily in a very shadowed version of our masculine energy. When that got literally curtailed, people once they got, probably through that initial wave of fear there was enabling them to actually start to slow down. And this is when Soul, the Divine started to catch up. And this is why a lot of people have made lots of different choices to what serves them joy. People have made a lot of life decisions, relationship decisions, work decisions, so yeah.
Johnny Burke: All right now, you had a trip to Sardinia that apparently had a profound impact, which obviously influences the path you’re on now. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Gemma Norris: Oh yeah, that place is amazing, Johnny. So I went there only in June this year. Before then I was channeling when I was doing my work and meditations and, a different language, which I had no understanding what it was, but it felt very earthlike. So I would get drawn to the Goddess Isis and Mother Earth. It felt very kind of deep sort of. That kind of vibration that was talking back up to me. that part of me is going, am I going mad here? I’m talking a different language.
Johnny Burke: That’s probably a good sign.
Gemma Norris: Yes. And I think it is good to be able to question it, but also to accept it. So anyway. Fast forward, get to Sardinia, literally land the 20th of June, get to the 21st, which is summer solstice. And I could feel the vibration of Sardinia within my aura, within like the, so you have a chakra, like just below your navel, between your sacrum. And I could sense the energy of her basically. And for me, she is Atlantean. She has this essence of very divine feminine.
I didn’t see the sacred sites, but there’s many sites that are designed, for the female genitals basically that’s, it’s all very sacred, sites that people would go within basically. So head and through like the vulva and then the clitoris. So it’s a lot set up for that. And, but for me, I could just feel this fire energy, this power that’s within her and it’s surrounded with mountains, and they would’ve expected an island like that to be actually volcanic.
But for me, I just knew that they’re actually mountains, but it flooded, which goes back to the whole story with Atlanteans or Noah and the arc. All these mass or civilizations and mythology that have come back to, there was a mass flooding at some point on our world.
Johnny Burke: Atlantis, divine feminine, ascension. These are things that we’re hearing a lot about these days now, especially the Atlantis Factor is really, really fascinating. Other than channeling, do you have perhaps past life memories about that, about Atlantis, or is it basically just imagery and perhaps beings that you channel?
Gemma Norris: This has happened a lot stronger as well since being in Sardinia. I was channeling, but also drawing sacred geometry shapes in the sand, which I fortunately for me, there was a gentleman there that understood what I was doing and knew that I was actually speaking Sardinian and drawing Greek mythology, which was linking to the seeds of the dead, which was the pomegranate, where Persephone, the maiden energy got taken.
So in the answer to your question, for me, it was just like an inner knowing, actually where I’ve had previous past lives, it felt separate, but the emotion was with me. With me this time forward it felt just like me. It was just a part of me that was sharing something different. It didn’t feel separate.
Growing from then this Atlantean, I have certainly gone back as a high priestess this last month, especially with the Lions gate that we’ve just experienced in August. It was very powerful and really feel that once a high priestess but could sense the separation from the high priest. Which is when I got taken to when it started to fall and the fear that came from that, and that’s when civilization started to fall down basically because of that fear.
Johnny Burke: Which we’ve heard about many times. How long ago do you suppose this was, any idea?
Gemma Norris: So I have no idea.
Johnny Burke: It’s more than 2000 years ago.
Gemma Norris: I’m thinking it’s saying like 25,000. This sort of the number it is quite some …
Johnny Burke: It’s, well going way back
Gemma Norris: considerable amount of time.
Johnny Burke: From your experience with channeling or, and inner knowing, do you have a glimpse into what the religious practices were, perhaps at that time or not necessarily?
Gemma Norris: I haven’t, what I can sense was there was a lot of connection to Mother Earth. So this is the fifth element. So Earth has this capacity to create. It has this very powerful energy that creates life here. The only way I can sort of understand was those men and women were equal and it was perceived that, this is where it started to go wrong, was that women had more power because they were able to create life and they had that access to this fertile energy.
The ability to create life itself and the energy of the earth itself. but the female couldn’t access that without the male. even though the female was accessing very high energetic vibrations, it was only because the male held that place, the masculine.
So the feminine was accessing this pure energy, this power, but it was because the masculine was being able to hold that space. However, it started to fall apart because of the fear, the masculine fear of the feminine, having that power, and that’s when this, it started to chip away.
Johnny Burke: The reason I bring that up is because when you talk about how Mother Earth had and obviously still does have power, that seems to be consistent with what we hear from people who practice Shamanism. And another thing that came up not so long ago, the church, Catholic church, has been suppressing our mystic and shamanic past for centuries. It doesn’t come up every day, but whenever I talk to somebody that is either a mystic or a shaman or both, they seem to get it pretty much right away. What is your insight into that?
Gemma Norris: When you look into that, that was a separation. So I’ll bounce back to high priest, Atlantean because it was at that point that, high priests were setting themselves up as they were the power to connect through. And this is what we have seen with religion that has said that you can only access your power via us.
And people gave away their power. People came into that and decided that was the truth, and they gave away and they actually willingly disempowered themselves. And this is what I’m seeing. We’re shifting that now we’re actually here to re-empower ourselves. And definitely the, the religion took away, that ability to continue what they’ve known, their connection to the planet, to connection to the moon and to the stars, and to really recognize that innate wisdom that’s within us and around us, which the Egyptians would follow.
Did you see, you know, in terms of all astrology, everything is sort of set up according to sort of signs and sort of key moments of our heritage there.
Definitely, you even get churches being put on key ritual sites, which would’ve been used. And so it was kind of like a, for me, it feels like it’s a clamping down. So you’ve got lay lines which hold the energy of the earth, which a lot of churches are actually placed on those, and you’ll find certain churches will be placed in those key areas and even wells or places where Pagans would’ve had rituals, a church got slapped on.
So it’s kind of like this is your root now of connection rather than through the earth. Just the earth and through their bodies themselves. and I think the lids coming off that, and I think that our Dear Queen that passed over a year ago. I see that’s also going to be coming off that lid, that’s going to be coming off, in terms of how people have been suppressed and disempowered.
Johnny Burke: So you would agree with the fact that the church has for actually millennia, they’ve been suppressing our mystic and shamanic past.
Gemma Norris: Yeah, when you read back, you look back it was the Romans.
A lot of that started to happen where the people were killed if they were called peasants, and then it was pagans, and then you worship the devil if you don’t do anything but worship gardens. And I think that’s really, that has just contained people in fear and separation. And look at what Covid did as well, that brought up fear and separation and the shadows of our society.
So this is looping back to the rising of the feminine, is that she’s coming up to show us everything that’s been in our shadows of society is actually now coming up to show us what no longer serves us and what disempowers us. And it can look quite scary because it can look overpowering and over controlling and you know, we’re seeing war still and it’s all this is about. It’s like a massive detox. It’s like a rush of water, which is what the feminine is. And it’s about kind of really rising up to show us what we need to clear, which we will see in ourselves as well.
Johnny Burke: I like that term detox. I’m assuming that might have something to do with moving from the three D world to the five D world.
Gemma Norris: We can’t access five D. We are in fear and separation. So to access that higher vibration, which for me is about being in that heart consciousness, we have to look at our lower vibrations. So if you think about shame and guilt, there’s something like 30 hertz. It’s very, very low, which has again, the same frequency of lead. So alchemy is talked with through the fire. You bring what turn lead into gold. So how can we transmit these low vibrational energies consciously to a high vibration to be of love, joy, and peace.
Johnny Burke: That’s great. Is there an easy way to do that or it doesn’t sound easy.
Gemma Norris: It’s not easy if you’re not conscious. If you are conscious of it, it’s easier. So for instance, if you are going for a torrid relationship of one individual and you are going to go, oh, this is just awful, and you’re just going in this massive whirlpool of just guilt, shame, fear, anger. If you can’t get off that loop by recognizing that actually this situation is here to present to me some low vibration stuff that I’m carrying for me to shift it and detox it. As soon as you can go, well, what’s this teaching me? What am I learning from this? You have an objective to have then the opportunity to go, well, I don’t continue this cycle.
I choose to be of love. I choose to be of joy, of peace, and then you start to get this equilibrium, this moment of bit like between how I’m feeling it now. You know, between the changing of the tides, there’s that moment of stillness, that moment between when you take your next breath, there’s that point of when you discern as to what you need and what you don’t need.
And that is the magical moment of when you go, well, I don’t want that anymore. I’ll heal it and that is the divine feminine as well. It’s that moment of stillness that you can hold for yourself to go, I no longer need that vibration. What I’m wanting from that person is more respect. Actually, what I need to do is to give myself more respect. I need to love myself more. And as soon as you change that vibration of who you are, it’s done.
Johnny Burke: Really?
Gemma Norris: Yeah. If we are ultimately energetic beings, energy attracts energy. So when you start to recognize the frequency that you are at your subconscious, because that plays out for 99% of our thoughts and our actions.
So we have to try and do a lot of conscious work to connect to that. To go, are you actually working on my favor here? Are you creating what I really want? is your coordinate set up to be what I actually desire? You can then start flushing out, detoxing all these lower vibrations through this life and through your unconscious body that’s you’ve inherited through our ancestors. ‘Not just our DNA we inherit the emotions too. So there’s a lot of trauma that’s gone on in this life in humanity, and we’re here to break those patterns and to shift it.
Johnny Burke: So those patterns can be inherited from ancestors in terms of vibrating at a certain frequency. It would be really cool if there were an app like on your iWatch or otherwise your phone that you could look at it and say, oh man, I’m only at like 44, Hertz. I got to up my game.
Gemma Norris: I think there could be something in that johnny. I think if you could I think there even are some devices that you can attach to yourself to see what frequency you are at
Johnny Burke: There would have to be, right?
Gemma Norris: I think there is, there’s something called Q, I’m sure. Anyway, it’s something that you can actually read your frequency. I mean, they can put devices on trees and set it, attune it to certain cords and the trees will sink back.
Johnny Burke: Interesting.
Gemma Norris: If they record in trees, we can start, yeah. Just know our symphony. What’s our tune we’re playing?
Johnny Burke: Since we’re talking about frequencies and, alchemy, you believe that, well, actually this is a common belief that man has become fixated on gold money and also women and control for thousands of years. What’s the easiest explanation for that? And what else do we need to know?
Gemma Norris: Good one. Well, this has come up for me the last few months, which includes the sedia and it’s all about money, sex, power, control, and how the feminine energy is the gold. It’s that fertility, it’s that creation. And this relates back to the Greek mythology that was coming up, which was Persephone, who was taken by hedis, Heidi or Pluto and taken down into the earth. but what came up from that was non-consensual. It wasn’t his to take. And there’s been this fixation of when women, girls come to a certain age, they’re whipped off. They’re taken, and it’s like they were possessions. And so sex and money sort of are really interlinked. And the gold aspect, when I connected to Persephone, this part, the feminine energy that got taken and taken underground, she’s gold. this whole healing of this feminine line that’s coming up.
When you listen to what happened in Atlantean time, it was the fixations to try to create through on the earth and take that fertile, that life force of what creates life. That magic energy that has you and I here right now and everybody else.
It was an attempt to bring science to manipulate that, whereas actually science can’t do that. I think this is what’s coming up. And Persephone, when I’ve connected to her, she’s like an immortal treasure. So she’s been like a sleeping beauty. And when you look at that and you go through the story of the pomegranate seed going underground, you talk about sleeping beauty where she took the apple seed. there’s so much correlation that’s links back to this. And this is about the feminine coming back, and actually science now is getting confused because they’re actually seeing what they call wobbles of nuances, particles on quantum physics. They’re starting to see that there’s a fifth elemental force coming into the planet right now.
Johnny Burke: so Persephone, right? Is Persephone from the Atlantean times, and if so, your connection with her, is it strictly through channeling? Is it just reaching across the veil? What exactly is it?
Gemma Norris: So Persephone is like the Greek version of mother Earth’s daughter who got taken. So it is that fertile, the maiden energy. My connection has really come from her, from being in Sardinia where I was on the sand and channeling and just being in meditation, and I was just drawing these shapes coming forwards and feeling her.
And Pluto’s involved with this. So Pluto if you’re an Astrologist fan he’s actually in retrograde and he’s bringing up everything since 2008, when he went into Capricorn, where the banks the Leman brothers went under, which again is linking to money. He’s literally skirting the bottom and bringing everything back up for us to work through as a society and, and individually too. but for me to access how it is through me more meditation.
Johnny Burke: More meditation. So if you were to try and explain this t,
a bunch of ninth grade history students, would you tell them?
Gemma Norris: I think what I would do would actually get them to connect to themselves. I would have them put their hands on their hearts and start to tune them back into their body because ultimately, I can come up with so many different words of what I can relate to, to communicate it back out.
However, everyone’s truth is actually within them. And your heart is where your truth is. That’s where your innate wisdom and your guts, so for me to waffle onto somebody, I believe it’s more for them to find it.
Johnny Burke: Rather than try to get it from an external entity, which is why I brought up the church suppressing our mystic and shamanic past, which, if you think about it, shamanism is probably what, 40, 50,000 years old, if not older.
That’s not even counting, going back to Atlantean times. And I’m sure they had their practices and their modalities as well. I had someone on the show her name is Betty Kovacs, and her point was the church basically inverted the myth and made us worship a god outside of us instead of within us. And every time I talk to an intuitive, including, today, the conversation eventually goes to the answers are from within,
Gemma Norris: Correct. Yep. Everything’s within us. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: Okay.
Gemma Norris: Yeah, because we’re 70% water, the planet’s, 70% water.
It carries the memory of everything. Even the universe, they say that water wasn’t actually here. It came through the universe to come to our planet.
So we carry the wisdom of absolutely everything already enough.
Johnny Burke: It’s hard for a lot of us to imagine that. I’m not saying I don’t believe it. It does make sense to me, but to tell someone everything’s within you, I think you have to agree that it sounds like a big ask, does it not?
Gemma Norris: Because we’ve been conditioned as everything’s outside of us that we need to know. So our schooling system, everything’s like, you need to know all these maths. Which actually when you come to it, you don’t, unless you’re going to design some rockets or, you know. So we don’t necessarily know everything from outside of us, but do we need to know that? So actually the concept is everything I need to know is within me but we even carry the vibration and frequency as we literally, as we come here, as dust, we leave as dust and we all coming back up and rising up from the same Earth. So we’re all carrying like a vibration intelligence of everybody else. So we are all interlinked.
Johnny Burke: All connected?
Gemma Norris: Yeah. And our brains can’t compute, and this is why the heart intelligence comes in, because that’s 5,000 times the frequency of our mind.
Johnny Burke: 5,000 times?
Gemma Norris: 5,000 times. So our hearts are frigging powerful, and our brains will always want to categorize things. That’s just how it, how it rolls. Whereas with the heart, when it’s in that vibration of love, it’s very all true in expansion and that’s where we all connect that frequency,
Johnny Burke: So speaking of the heart, how do we start what you describe as a heart conscious revolution to liberate ourselves and our souls and humanity for that matter?
Gemma Norris: We have to start going within. We have to create time for ourselves. We have to start, do the self-reflection work. And when things aren’t playing out for us, rather than projecting it or blaming others and separation, we have to start taking responsibility to understand what’s happening within us, what’s our vibration? What frequency are we generating to attract those behaviors? You start that process, and you start to understand yourself better, you start to have a higher perspective on things.
That’s when you start to come out from fear and more into love space, you hold a higher perspective on situations so you can start holding more compassion for other people, even though they may be different or, but you are more accepting of that difference. That’s when you start to weave this web or ladder for us as a collective to start rising up. That’s how I see it. It’s the internal work we need to work on ourselves.
Johnny Burke: Which seems to be pretty well aligned with moving from three D to five D, moving away from fear towards like a group consciousness, right?
Gemma Norris: I saw at the very beginning of Covid this massive web, web of light, and it was connecting everybody. It’s a really weird one because there’s an element of trust to it. You have to sort of surrender to it, to the innate wisdom that’s in you to allow you to take those little steps and because for a lot of us, letting go of control is huge.
It’s a massive illusion that we believe that we have, that we can control things. the only things we can actually do is control, our thoughts even that we can sometimes have trouble with, but our actions and everything else is beyond
Johnny Burke: So the grand delusion is we can control things other than our thoughts and even our emotions?
Gemma Norris Yeah. But when you are in more consciousness, you can start to really work through your thoughts and your emotions, rather than the subconscious playing out the same stories and patterns that have been basically there for, for generations.
Johnny Burke: So being heart powered is the answer.
Gemma Norris: I believe so.
Johnny Burke: Heart, over mind. Okay. I like that. I don’t think we can really wear out that expression, at least not anytime soon. So, last question. Imagine a world where money didn’t exist and time didn’t equate to money, that the only true currency was joy and self-worth. Is this a marker of an advanced civilization that maybe existed before? and or one that will exist in the future.?
Gemma Norris: Yeah, I believe for everything that’s been coming through is yes, there’s going to be a big shift. It can seem quite out there right now , how on Earth does that ever change, where we got a whole world fixated on money and earning it to survive and to live. However, there’s a real shifting of vibration of why we do things and it’s for the joy of it.
Anything that’s doing it because we think we should be doing it; it’s just going to collapse. It’s just a very low guilt, shame vibration. You do something because it’s joy and you are coming from a space of self-expression. That’s your self worth. You are owning it. You own who you are, what you’re here for. Your soul purpose, your divine feminine energy. That’s actually your blueprint for everything that you are here to do. You start to live life in your joy, in your purpose, in your passion. This then creates the vibrations and the continuous energy in what you gain from that. And that’s just a massive higher energy for us to interact.
And yes, I believe it happened before. I don’t think there was money before. Money I think just has created separation and, division and I have been shown that it will be different. Ditch your perceptions of money because something’s going to change and it’s going to be good. It’s going to be very good. I haven’t been shown any more than that and I don’t even know when that’s going to happen, but there is a definite-
Johnny Burke: That was my next question. When is that going to happen? It’s probably going to happen in our next two or three lives. It’s probably not going to be this one, but I’ve been told a) it has happened before, and b) it will and may even be happening right now in other galaxies or other worlds that, we’re not really exposed to yet, right?
Gemma Norris: As you said that I had this sense of yes, there’s, it’s happening out already, but never paradigm because we’ve got different paradigms going on all the time. It feels like it’s bringing together, but lots of our other paradigms have been from fear base and negative responses that have created these shards of energy going off all in the different directions. We are bringing it all together, but we have to heal those low aspects to be able to come to that higher.
Johnny Burke: That sounds really, really interesting and I’m looking forward to the day or the time that that becomes a reality here on Earth, although it might not be in this lifetime. In the meantime, is there anything else that we need to know?
Gemma Norris: I think we have to trust, and we have to make sure we spend time for ourselves to really start diving deep and to know that you have a choice and that choice is your power. And its only fear that tells you that you don’t have a choice. So we start claiming back and we know we’ve got choices. We can make changes of conscious choices, basically to make these changes that we desire in our own lives, in the whole world itself.
Johnny Burke: I like it, moving away from the fear. Excellent. Gemma, thanks so much for joining us today. in the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?
Gemma Norris: Okay, so the best way would be my website is the infinity health hub.com, where you can subscribe free for elements of my work that I’m posting out there as well. Instagram, @theInfinityHealth Hub, and Facebook as well.