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#80 Ronnie Ann Ryan: Past Lives and The Akashic Records

July 30, 2022 by Johnny Burke

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke and today’s guest is Ronnie Ann Ryan. She is a certified coach, past life reader, and an intuitive healer who’s known for helping clients move past blocks, love themselves, and attract love with a quality man. Today, we’ll be talking about channeling your spirit guides, accessing the Akashic Records, and using her intuition to get answers from the highest sources available. Ronnie, welcome to the program.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: thank you so much, John. I’m really happy to be here.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. To attract love with a quality man. I imagine that’s got to be quite a popular topic with some people out there, with the women of course. How does that tie into how you got started doing past life work?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: The past life work came first. then, I got to an age where I was like, oh my gosh, how could I still be single? I had already been a student of a lot of spiritual metaphysical stuff and personal growth. And so I put together a little program for myself because there was nothing 20 years ago, In fact, coaching was just a baby 20 years ago. So. that’s the program I still use today, and it worked for me, and it’s worked for my clients. And then what happened was, as I progressed through all the coaching materials, I started to see that sometimes there were problems that weren’t addressed by the coaching and the mindset. And I thought maybe we need to look a little deeper.

That’s where the two came together because sometimes there are reasons that we’re not conscious of that really aren’t about this life. Talk to a regular therapist, they’ll say everything has to do with this life. For the most part, that’s probably true, but it’s really good to just look beyond and see if there are influencers from the past. Maybe somebody made a vow to themselves about how they want to live in future lives. Or they had experiences that created feelings where they don’t really want to be in a relationship. So here they are now in this life, and they really want to be in a relationship, and they have huge internal conflict that they’re not conscious of. So that’s what we go to look for.

Johnny Burke: When you mentioned “vow” that seems to, bring up the subject of a soul agreement, where someone says in that in-between space, ” this is what I need to experience and the next incarnation, because these are things I have to work on.” Is that related or?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Yes, absolutely, that’s related. But what I found is, let’s say a woman wants to be very independent. I have worked with some men too, but she really wanted to get married and have children. So that would actually describe myself. I don’t know why, but I didn’t think to do this for myself, but anyway, I’ve done it for other women and so taking this independence thing, I’ve found a lot of different things. Like one woman had broken off an engagement in this life to a man that she was in his harem. She was really angry that she was just pushed off into the harem, which is just a bunch of women who hang around the palace or whatever, and have to be ready for when the big guy, whoever he is, wants access to them.

So it was a life that she was really angry about, and she never wanted to be controlled by a man again, but here she is in this life, 50 still single. And she had never heard about this. She had never considered this. She didn’t know about this past life. So it was really helpful to gain that understanding of why she had been so strong in her independence and why there was a conflict and why that changes is by the time, being 50, she’s had a lot of years of being independent. So she came, she learned what she needed to learn. And what I said to her was she could probably find a relationship where she could maintain a lot of independence and still being in a relationship, not breaking the vow, which would be very different at 20 than at 50.

Johnny Burke: Breaking the vow brings up a lot of different, consequences, or should I say scenarios? Oddly enough, I just had a guest speaker come on recently and she talked about how we have pathways that are predetermined and no matter what action we take, some of those pathways are unavoidable. So this all kind of ties into like you just said the vow, the contract and agreement that you make with your soul group. talking with intuitives, I’ve noticed that many of them had mystical type experiences when they were younger, such as seeing spirit , being exposed to what many people would think of as ghosts. Did you have any of that when you were a kid?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: you know, I did not. I started studying in my twenties and I studied and practiced and tried for a long time before I could break through with my intuition. I did have a skill though- this is kind of silly, of looking at yearbooks. So by the time I got out of high school, and I was in college, I’d see other people’s high school yearbooks and I could look at pictures and tell them about the people without knowing them, just from looking at their picture. And I never really thought about why I could do that, what that was about, but that was my intuition. But I had to study a long time and practice. I think it’s because I had vows, I had vows about magic and some other things. So I had a lot of work to push through.

I probably went off the rails a couple times, you know, in the learning process of life, but I also will tell you that, I did have quite a mystical experience the first time I sat down to meditate. What happened was it was 12 o’clock on a Sunday night. That was dumb enough, but I just close my eyes because I had been to a psychic fair and the psychic said,” you need to learn how to meditate.” So I close my eyes and I just tried to be calm and empty my mind, and this incredible intense force of energy came at me. It came down through my head, pushed heavily into my body. My eyes were closed, and I didn’t open them. I don’t know why I was so scared, the force of it, and everything was purple. Purple, purple. It was just, I was like being accosted by purple energy somehow. And my heart was racing and pounding, and I was like, what the heck is happening to me? And I thought, you need to just breathe, just breathe. And so about probably 15 minutes later, I finally opened my eyes and ran to call a friend and woke her up.

It took me years to find out that was my, crown chakra opening. And I didn’t know what that was and so many people were afraid when I told them about that. It was the strangest thing. I called the psychic the next day, who had told me to meditate. And she said, “well, it wasn’t dark purple, was it? You know, dark purple is evil, but lavender is okay.” So it took me a long time to find out what that was, but that was the dark ages compared to today.

Johnny Burke: So that meditation, that experience, would you consider that a breakthrough moment that opened up many vistas, whether it be the Akashic Records or the past lives, or basically all of the above?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I think it was a reclaiming of an opening from so many lives where I have done this kind of work, but I still had a lot of work to do before I started channeling. What happened was I took Reiki one, like I’m a Reiki Master now, although I don’t teach or work on clients really. Although I do use my Reiki, but in a more subtle way. After the first 21-day activation period, that’s when I started to channel. So that really helped me open up to the next level. And you know, what’s really funny is I’ve taught a lot of, tapping into your intuition classes and stuff like that. I taught them in the nineties and people caught on right away. So it was just my own block. It doesn’t have to be that hard at all. I think today people catch on like lightning, you know?

Johnny Burke: It does seem like this type of phenomena is more commonplace. You mentioned that we weren’t really having too many discussions like this 20 years ago. And even coaching was a baby. Was this a precursor to your involvement with the Akashic Records or did that, and your recognition of past lives kind of happen all at once?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I think it was the activation for my intuition. Shortly after that experience, I did start taking a class I took that was a full year where we practiced with the same group of women every week. We just called it past lives. We didn’t call it the Akashic Records at the time. So, yes, I think that’s certainly helped me open up to all that came that happened afterwards. Yes.

Johnny Burke: Looking at yearbook pictures and getting some kind of recognition of those faces, is that pretty much the same thing as looking at someone in our current life and thinking why do I get the feeling I know this person? Is that a similar sensation?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I don’t think it is. I think that was my intuition, and what you’re talking about is Deja Vu, more, that’s soul recognition, I don’t think I knew those people. I think I could just pick up on them intuitively. You know how Native Americans never had wanted their picture taken because they said it captured the soul? I think it does capture a piece of the soul because when I worked at psychic fairs in the nineties, people brought me a picture, I could tell them about the person. Now over time I didn’t need the picture, but initially that helped.

Johnny Burke: Now, since we’re on the subject, have you come across people that have given you the sense that you may have known them before?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Oh, for sure.

Johnny Burke: Really?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I remember being in ninth grade and spotting this girl across a parking lot at an event. And how can you spot a girl across a parking lot? And I was like, who is that? I need to know who that is. Somehow. I figured it out. And we were, super tight friends for many years. So that’s a big-time recognition. I also think I knew my husband before- I know I knew my husband because the first night we spent together, I dreamt about a previous incarnation together.

Johnny Burke: Really?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: There’ve been many instances in my life where I’ve recognized people where you just look at them and you know- there’s something here, you know?

Johnny Burke: Yup.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: It’s been friends, girlfriends.

Johnny Burke: That’s not really surprising because in this forum, most of the intuitives are women- not that that’s really shocking, duh!, because of the intuition and how many people talk about we as a culture, as a civilization are moving away from the masculine and towards the feminine energy. That’s probably a discussion for another day, but it’s got a lot to do with that. Let’s talk about the records and how that’s different from, a past life regression therapy session and how he got involved and what your path was.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I first encountered the Akashic Records through reading Edgar Cayce books at the beginning of my spiritual journey where I was reading everything in sight, and I still am of course reading a lot. It just became really popular within the last 15 years or so. So when I first started doing past life work, we didn’t talk about the Akashic records, I didn’t know what that was and I wasn’t worried about it because you know, didn’t matter. So today everything’s about the Akashic Records. So I learned about what they are, and I did some research and I found out that the Akasha is a Sanskrit word for boundless space. You can think of it as a supercomputer for all of the data of your past lives and everyone else’s. Or like a giant library where everybody has their own book of all of their lives. So it’s like a resource, it’s your personal life history, multiple life history or whatever. So that’s how the Akashic Records are.

I find there’s a lot of structure and rules about accessing the Akashic Records, which are actually talked about, I think in both Buddhism and Hinduism, but reincarnation is something that’s in the Kabbalah. It’s in the Muslim world and in Christianity, in the first Bible, they talk about the book of life. And so that’s another way of looking at the Akashic records of book of life.

Johnny Burke: Right. The book of life as mentioned in certain religious documents. Of course, if you go to your pastor or your imam, he’s probably not likely to strike up a conversation about the Akashic Records. It’s been explained to me several times that the book, the Akasha, the Akashic Records has a record of the past, the present and the future, which apparently seem to be happening all at once. Your thoughts?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Mind boggling.

Johnny Burke: It is, it’s very hard to get your head around, isn’t it? It’s almost like you’re shifting an axis from the horizontal to the vertical. Do you have any insight into how that works and how we can possibly have a record of our future?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I’m going to say there’s a lot of opinions about this. I have no proof. I can only give you my opinion the way for me that I view it is, it talks about my future potential. I do understand this quantum idea that there is no time and it’s all happening now. But I think that what also happens is when you change something today, you change it in the past and the future too, or you can change the past and that’ll change today in the future. So sometimes I just don’t think about things that get me too confused,

Johnny Burke: Probably very good advice because that can be, as you say, mind-boggling .

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I will tell you that I don’t do predictive readings, like fortune telling kind of- here’s what’s going to happen to you. I can tell you what your best avenue is, where the most energy is, what’s for your highest good, but I don’t do that kind of predictive work, especially out of the Akashic Records. Other people do and that’s fine. I’m not saying you shouldn’t, it’s just not what I do. I’m very focused on the here and now and what will help you move forward in a practical way today.

Johnny Burke: Speaking of the records, who are the records keepers, and have you had any contact with them, or have you witnessed it? Is it like viewing a live space or is it like watching a recording?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I can tell you that there are as many different ways to experience this as there are humans. in order to see if I was missing anything, I took a bunch of classes. So I took a class with Teri Uktena . She has a very unique way of looking at it. And first she wants you to connect with an animal and then she wants to see the library, and then she wants you to walk in and talk to your record keeper. Other people talk about the Lords of Light and the Lords of the Records and they make it very religious and you have to say Amen three times and whatever. So, I tried these different methods to see, you know, what’s it like to use their method versus mine.

I have seen, I don’t know what- an angel or a spirit of some kind upper level spirit who is a female and very graceful, welcoming. When I go picture myself going into the records, sometimes I picture myself walking into the library, particularly the, when I’m trying to do my own thing. When I work with other people, I might not bother with that. But when I go to see my own records, I’m looking for my helper. So I see her and she’s very graceful and she sweeps her hand wide in a welcoming motion, you know, welcome come in. She gives me a little bow. I bow to her. So it’s very respectful, but very light. And then, shows me the pathway and I walk in to go do whatever I have to do.

I’ve never actually read my book. Teri Uktena talks about reading the actual records in a book. That blows me away. That’s not what happens for me. Sometimes I see the visual and I have a little movie and it’s that clear. Sometimes I just get a visual impression. Sometimes I just have a knowing and I just get the information. I don’t have one way that the information comes to me. Sometimes I get a feeling. Sometimes I just get like a download- a big chunk of information. So it really varies for me, but a lot of people have a specific thing that happens to them every time.

Johnny Burke: So there’s many ways to get the information. So what does karma, which I think for many people, it’s frequently misunderstood. What does karma have to do with the Akashic Records?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I’m not a Buddhist or Hindu person, so, they might have a different perspective on this, but the way I look at karma is, often it’s mistaken because people say,” oh, Karma’s a bitch. ” It’s not a punishment. Karma’s really not a punishment. The point of karma is that your soul is here to learn lessons. So your karma is what you are working on. So it’s not like if you killed somebody in the last life, then they’re going to come and kill you in this life. That may happen, but it’s not a tit for tat kind of you do this to me, I fry kind of thing. That’s not how it works. It’s really about you learning whatever lessons you set out to learn to raise your vibration so that eventually you can get back to source. That’s the whole point.

Johnny Burke: It’s great explanation. I recently had someone telling me that when we had this type of discussion, that there is no good, there is no bad, there’s just experience that we need to as you just said raise our vibe, so we can get back to source. So we don’t have to keep coming back here or to whatever planet or star system to learn the lessons, I guess. So have you ever had a past life regression yourself?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I have done that. Yes.

Johnny Burke: Okay. how is that different from your other work such as an Akashic records reading?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: It was a little more thorough. We saw more of the life in succession where we came in at a point that mattered to me now. Then we progressed until we saw my death. I didn’t see my birth or my family per se, but I did see all the way to my death. When I do a reading, I only go for the information that’s helpful to you now. So your death might not be relevant to what you’re having a struggle with currently. So I don’t go from beginning to end when I do the Akashic Record thing. I’m just going for what is the root cause and I heard this recently and I love this phrase:”past life trauma is present life drama, which I have never heard before, but I love that. So yeah, the regression was different. I saw all the way to where I got my head chopped off.

Johnny Burke: ouch. I’m curious, maybe it’s morbid curiosity, but do you remember what century it was?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Yeah. So it was in the 15 hundreds in Italy. It was a beautiful life. My brother was my husband. We were with a bunch of magical couples. We were doing magic in a big room. We were standing in a circle, and someone tattled on us- magic was not allowed. And so the Garda came and, you know, I don’t know if you know about the Renaissance outfits, but the man had big like short bloomer pants and a lot of colors and metal helmets. And they came with like poles with this, some kind of knife at the end or whatever. And they just came in and went and cut everybody’s head off. So, the message I got was really funny cause it was immediate, which was that’s what happens when you play with power.

But honestly, for me, I didn’t have a horrible, big, traumatic reaction to reliving that because I just went right to the lesson. I didn’t have to work through that and get rid of it and clear. The woman I was working with is also a healer. So she probably helped me do some of that clearing, but I didn’t have any lasting discomfort from going through that memory, but it was a little surprising.

Johnny Burke: I would say so. And you did mention before that in your present life, you had a fear of. magic, a good reason for that, right?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Well, since we’re on the subject of past lives and past life regression and so on, that often leads to discussions about in-between incarnations and vows and agreements and things. We’ve often heard, well, you can’t choose your parents, but actually, the truth seems to be that we do choose our parents and maybe even our romantic partners. What are your thoughts?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: all right. There’s a guy named Michael Newton. He wrote Destiny of Souls and Journey of Souls. And these books are fabulous. I love them. He did hypnosis on his patients and instead of focusing on past lives, he focused on lives between lives and learned a tremendous amount about what’s going on in between our incarnations and what he discovered was that there are soul pods, which are like families and they’re large and you belong to a pod. And you incarnate with people from your pod, which I don’t think means you can’t interact with other people from other pods. So likely, you’re recycling the people that you are with. Like my brother was my husband or, you interchange genders and roles. Sometimes people find out their mother was their child.

So I think that you do choose your parents. I think you do choose a lot of things. I don’t know if you choose every single thing, but probably you choose the biggest things that will help you learn your lessons and move your karma forward because that’s why you come to be.

Johnny Burke: Have you seen examples either in your own life, or should I say lives, or perhaps in your work with your clients where they discover-” I actually did choose this, or I did choose this person.”?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I can tell you from my own life that, I definitely chose my parents because they created an amazingly safe home life and environment, very supportive. I’m extremely lucky because of what I’m here to learn and do, and they supported that the best. So I have no doubt that I chose them, and I am shocked at how much I have encountered them since they’ve passed. It blows me away because I’ve seen them, I’ve dreamt about them and when I’ve worked with other, people who were doing, mediumship, they always show up. They always show up. So they’re still hanging around and I’m watching over me, I guess, which offers a lot of comfort. So, I definitely knew my husband before, so I feel like it took me a long time to find him. But there’s no question that we knew each other before. Did I answer your question?

Johnny Burke: Yeah, you did. I think it’s a pretty big ask to try to find an example where someone actually remembers the actual agreement being made. I think we’re actually not supposed to remember that that’s the best it’s been explained to me. It’s a knowing as you mentioned before, and it’s just a knowing that,” I’m pretty sure I made an agreement with this person or this group of people.”

Ronnie Ann Ryan: What I have found is helpful is when it comes to forgiveness this is one of the ways that working with your past lives can be the most helpful thing. Because if you can gain perspective on what’s happening in your life and why it’s happening and why you experienced something, then you don’t have to stay angry, or you don’t have to feel like a victim because you can see from a much higher level that you were doing some learning.

The very first past life I ever saw was when I was murdered. Somebody attacked me from the front, with a knife. I was a Sioux warrior, and I was attacked by another Sioux warrior inside the teepee. And there was a woman there, and they want it to be together and I was in the way. So he killed me, and I recognized them in a flash. There was no question in my mind, who they were from this life because when I was in ninth grade, I was in a horrible little love triangle. My best friend and I were the warriors and we both liked the same guy and he picked her. And so they went together again, and I was devastated. I was hurt. I was depressed for most of my freshman year. And when I saw that life, I had a much deeper understanding and I thought, considering I got murdered last time, this time was not so bad!

Johnny Burke: No, not at all. I can’t help but wonder once you have that recognition of knowing someone from a past life, have you ever actually let these people know, or is that a little bit too dangerous?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: you know, what’s really funny. I actually have tried to find her. I didn’t try that hard, but I looked on Facebook and LinkedIn and whatever, and I can’t find her. sometimes you want to let sleeping dogs lie.

Johnny Burke: Maybe

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I’m kind of a fatalist like that. Like I look for the door to be open and if there’s no opening, I let it go.

Johnny Burke: It’s probably not open for a reason tell us about some of your favorite readings.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: My favorite reading? I did one recently, it was so surprising, this is a perfect example of how, when you start doing this kind of work, you just have to trust what you get and say it in a gentle way. So, it was a woman I think she had an Indian background, and I could see her on zoom so I could see what she looked like. And she wanted to know about her past lives and the first life I saw for her, she was a man who was with another man, it was a father. I don’t know about his relationship with her in this life, but they were together, and they trained tigers At the palace, whatever palace it was in India. And that’s what they did. They were animal trainers, and they were tiger whispers or whatever. And they worked with the tigers, and it was in 15 or 16 hundreds. I never saw a tiger trainer before, and I was so shocked. This is one of the hardest things about doing this work- you got to say it. So I did tell her that, and she had no expression, and we did an hour together. And at the end she goes, “you know, that thing about the tigers was really amazing because anytime anybody ever asked me, what’s your favorite animal? I always say, tiger. ”

Johnny Burke: Really?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: So that was great confirmation in my mind, I had another woman come to me when I was working at psychic fairs years ago. She wanted to know about her past lives, just in general. And I said,” you know, this is crazy, but I see you as, like the pied Piper with a bunch of rats behind you, and you’re playing this little flute thing and all the rats are following you out. Is that what St Patrick’s did in Ireland? And he got rid of all the rats.?” So, she was hysterical, laughing, and she goes,” I’ve worked in a biology lab. It was a biology lab with rats, and they call me the rat lady. “

Johnny Burke: Oh, wow.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: We were both laughing. Another one that really was amazing was a young Japanese woman who came to me and she wanted to know about her recent or previous reincarnation, the one closest to this life right before this one. She didn’t say anything else. And so I saw her as an American sailor at Pearl Harbor who lost his life when the Japanese came and bombed. She was a little surprised and she said, ‘you know, I’m so afraid of drowning. Why is that?” And I said, “well, you drowned in Pearl Harbor.” And she goes, “I’m so afraid of fireworks and loud booming noises.” And I’m like, “well, you know, died in Pearl Harbor. ” I was so amazed and impressed by her spirit. As an American sailor in one life came back as a Japanese woman to learn about that culture and understand who they are and what happened. It’s a perfect example of karma, right?

Johnny Burke: Right. And it does indicate pre-birth planning as well. It seems to be almost unavoidable. What can you tell someone who is very skeptical? What can you really tell them that could possibly dispel their skepticism?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Okay. So there is a book by a guy named Bob Snow who is a detective. And I’m not sure if I’m going to get the title right. But it’s something like something of a past life’s…

Johnny Burke: Portrait of a Past Life Skeptic. And I believe the first part of the title is Looking for Carol Beckwith. The reason I know that is because I interviewed him about a week ago, but yeah,

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Wow.

Johnny Burke: It’s, very interesting I think that’s a good example because he was a hard-boiled skeptic- really was.

I don’t want to go too far deep into that, but I’ll put a link in the show notes to his episode in case anybody wants to look that up. It’s a good one. It’s a good example.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: So I’ll just tell you a super brief. He had some memories, and he investigated his own past life and found the truth to his memories. I can’t convince anybody, I can’t prove anything to anybody. Everybody’s got their own path and their way of seeing. But if you are remotely curious, that book might help you start to believe, but there are so many books by doctors like Brian Weiss or Roger Woolger, these classic books, they’re old now, but they’re still filled with all of the hypnosis that they do. The first book I ever read was” In Search of Bridey Murphy.” And that was from the fifties. It was already in an old book when I read it and that was all about a woman who was being hypnotized and she slipped back into being Bridey Murphy. The therapist was like, “whoa, where did you go?” They had never encountered that before so.

Johnny Burke: Yes, there are quite a few of those books. Especially the ones on near-death experiences that are written by doctors like Eben Alexander. And another one that was interesting was, Dying To Wake Up by Rajiv Parti, who was also a neurosurgeon, that apparently was an atheist, and had no spiritual beliefs at all.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: I just want to give you one weirdo example of how there’s consciousness in places we don’t expect. I know a woman who, unfortunately, her daughter died at 32. She got hit by a car and she donated her organs. So the heart got placed with a man who really needed a heart transplant. Suddenly after he was better and his body accepted the heart and everything, he started eating a lot of chocolate and doing yoga and things that he had never done before. He was connecting with the spirit of this woman whose heart he got and the mother told the stories about it, and they met. It was just outrageous and that has nothing to do with past lives, but her soul lives on a piece of, the energy or whatever is influencing him. I don’t know how that works, but that flipped me out to hear that story.

Johnny Burke: It is. And actually, I think it is related because one concept that ties a lot of this together is the survival of consciousness. Whether it’s a past life recognition or it’s a near-death experience, the theory is that consciousness does survive the death of the brain. So do you think that the work with past lives; do we think in our lifetime that we’ll ever see that work come more in the mainstream?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: That’s such a good question. Really hard to say, I think the medical profession is always at risk for dabbling in these things that can’t be proven. They don’t like to take risks because they have to be insured, they’re licensed. But let’s just say that you don’t need to go to a doctor to work with these things have healing and there are therapists who do these things. Hypnotherapists who are trained and people like me who offer compassionate information and insights, when people are ready and they’re open to that, they come to us and we can share that information. So I think it is a lot more prevalent than it has been in a while.

Johnny Burke: If you Google past life regression or even life between lives therapy, you can find therapists locally, which I think is pretty encouraging. Speaking of insight, I believe you have a gift for our listeners.

Ronnie Ann Ryan: Oh, I do. Thanks for bringing that up. So I have a book titled Seven Ways Your Past Lives Affect Your Love Life Now. it’s a short book and it’s all about how you might see patterns in your life today that relate to the past. And you can find that at thenumbersevenpastlives.com

Johnny Burke: I will definitely put that on that note in the show notes as well. Ronnie, thanks so much for joining us today. Very, very cool information. How can listeners learn more about you online?

Ronnie Ann Ryan: They could find me at www.nevertoolate.biz and I’m also the host of the. Breathe Love and Magic podcasts. And I have a past life travelog radio show on 360 talk radio for women.
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#78 Corbie Mitlied: Pre-Birth Planning:Your Soul’s Plan

July 16, 2022 by Johnny Burke

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Corbie Mitleid. She is a certified Tarot Master, certified psychic, trained medium, and ordained minister. Her work is showcased in Robert Schwartz’s breakthrough series Your Soul’s Plan, Your Soul’s Gift and Your Soul’s Love, which highlights her ability to retrieve past lives and help her clients understand pre-birth planning. Corbie, welcome to the program.

Corbie Mitleid: It’s great to be here. Thanks for asking.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. How did you get interested in past lives?

Corbie Mitleid: The way I see it is when spirit says, “okay, you’re working for me”, it kind of rifles in your file cabinet to see what you got. What’s my background? Theater major at brown university, professional actress in New York. So I understand characters. Words are my drug of choice. I’m a writer and a storyteller. So I understand how a life rolls out. I’ve been interested in history since I was a child. Put all of that together. And when someone asked me for a past life, I don’t have to say “big hat, long skirt. It’s old-fashioned.”. I say, okay, that’s a hobble skirt. You’re in a picture hat with an ostrich feather, and that’s the Brandenburg gates. So this is probably Berlin in 1911. That’s the exciting part to give them pinpoint accuracy.

Johnny Burke: So the path of you becoming a medium was pretty much a no brainer.

Corbie Mitleid: I was interested in that kind of thing since I was nine. I read a book called” the witch family” by Eleanor Estes. I knew there was magic in the world. I wanted to go find it. 1973 bought my first Tarot deck. We were all hippies then- and read for 20 years to keep my ego out of it and be a clear channel. Spirit felt that that was good enough in 1994, that all of a sudden, I could do hands-on healing and talk to dead people with no training. And it basically handed me my draft notice and said, “hello, you’re working for us.” That’s when I started doing it part-time, full-time after nine 11.

Johnny Burke: speaking of talking to the dead, were you able to sense spirit or spirits as a child? Or did it come, did it come later?

Corbie Mitleid: Nope, no. As I was doing my own past life investigations, I began to be able to sense discarnates. In about 1991, I was working with someone out in Colorado who also had a world war I connection, and we saw things. We had things happen in the house that was too coincidental and too focused to be anything else, but specific discarnate souls.

Johnny Burke: Okay. You mentioned The Tarot, how does that figure in your intuitive gifts, and how do you basically get away from the fact that that tends to be classified as a parlor game?

Corbie Mitleid: Well, if it was just a parlor game, then it would have no meaning except what you read in the tiny little books. I’m a certified Tarot master. I’ve been reading it for over half a century. When you are that familiar with the cards, you recognize that there is an allegory in them for storytelling and that the cards don’t always have the exact same meaning for everybody.

Here’s an example, the devil card- people see this and think,” oh my God, horns and a tail.” What I explain to them is, no, it means you are probably being bedeviled by something, someone, or some situation, or holding yourself back from your highest and best. When they understand it that way, there is nothing to be scared of. So you tell the stories, and you give the details. When someone says to me,” I want to look at my, new store that I’m opening. I don’t flip a couple of cards and say,” wait until January and fire the redhead. ” It’s multi spread. Then the energy around the business, the brick-and-mortar location, how to market it, clients, competition, staff, finances, what they need to know and the best possible outcome. You can’t do that if all you do is read out of the tiny book,

Johnny Burke: Right.

Corbie Mitleid: You give them empowering information. You don’t soft pedal. But you also make sure that they know they’re in charge of their own life, not you. We are the toolbox, and we hand it to you, but we’re not the repairman.

Johnny Burke: is there any, specific order that the cards are read or does, the presentation depend on the energy between you and your client?

Corbie Mitleid: Depends on the question. When you sit down with me. The first thing I’m going to say to you is,” okay, what’s the most important thing you want to get out of your knowing today? ” Because I’m fast and I’m practical, but I could read two-thirds of your life. And if what you really want is something I didn’t get to you’ll leave going ” ah, she was terrible. She didn’t know anything.” So we focus on what you want. If you say, “I don’t know”, there is a classic 10 card Celtic spread. Everybody sees it in bad movies. We go there, but. When you have specifics, it is not just Tarot, but I also use Oracle cards and I have about eight different decks. Each one of them has its own purpose. The key is to tell the story to the client, to show them what’s behind things as well as what is in front of them. So people love stories and they’re visual. I can tell them you really need to move away from a situation, but instead, if they look at the six of swords card, which shows a woman in a boat who is grieving, they can look at the allegory. I can explain the elements and the message gets through to them much more, completely, and much more compassionate.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Let’s talk about the books of Robert Schwartz. It seems to me that his work picks up where Dr. Michael Newton left off, and everyone knows what he was famous for – life between lives. How did you get involved with that?

Corbie Mitleid: Interestingly enough, back in 1999, 2000, Rob, put out a notice that he wanted to work with people who remembered past lives or could reach them. And so when he and I talked, he realized that I did have a very strong gift for past lives. And when he asked me to be one of the examples in the book, I’m actually Doris, who had cancer. We found out that I had an actual talent for channeling people’s higher selves, their oversouls. If you will, to talk to. So that cemented my part in the book.

I also introduced him to Stacy Wells, who is one of my best and longest trends. She is, as far as I know the only one in the world who actually sees the pre-birth planning situation. The way I explain it when people say, well,” what’s the difference in the two of you?” Stacy is a brilliant technical surgeon. She reaches in, pulls something out, and says, “this is your karmic challenge. This is what you need to look at.” I am more the priest/ inspirer/ storyteller. I’m the one who macrames down your past lives. We talk to your higher self if it chooses to come in, and then we see how you can move forward in your life with this new information.

Johnny Burke: Oversouls. Is that the same thing as the spirit guide or not necessarily?

Corbie Mitleid: Let me give you, an audiovisual aid . Put your hand up, put the palm towards you. Your palm is your complete soul. Everything you are, were, will be. Fingers are like you’re incarnation. Notice they’re much smaller than the soul. So certain aspects of our soul animate these personalities. And of course, it’s always connected to source. So the oversoul is literally your full soul self, your higher self.

Johnny Burke: Okay. when we go into life in-between lives, when we plan our next incarnation, does a portion of the oversoul stay in that space while we come back down to earth?

Corbie Mitleid: Oh, of course, of course. let’s take my mother as an example, my mother was an alcoholic cross-addicted with barbiturates. I had a traumatic and very rough childhood. But while the personalities were doing their little things down here to fulfill my pre-birth plan, most of her soul and most of my soul are upstairs sharing a bowl of popcorn, watching the show. The way I try to explain souls versus personalities is I use the example of Matt Smith, the actor. He was the 11th doctor and doctor who? Yeah, he’s, my doctor. Crazy, funny best friend. But as soon as he hung up the bow tie and suspenders, he moved over to the crown where he played the young prince Phillip- totally different person. Matt’s the soul, the two parts he played are like incarnations. When people understand that they also understand why when a Bible Thumper comes up to me and says” well, God says we’re only down here once. “I completely agree with them, because my soul has been down here. Hundreds of times, Corbie, Johnny, we get one- one and done. There will never be this recipe down here again.

Johnny Burke: Very good explanation on the souls and the actors, because what I’ve heard, over and over again, is that when we get into that in-between space, it’s almost like casting a movie and then we decide on our parts and then we come down here. Of course, by the time we get back down to earth, we obviously forget what happened in the in-between space. Does that sound accurate?

Corbie Mitleid: It does, it really does. Stacy sees it kind of like a computer flow chart. And it’s one of the other reasons why, when people say,” I’m such an old soul, I don’t want to come down here again.” I guarantee they’re not, it’s just that the personality is really tired. And the ones that say,” God must hate me to do all of this.” No. Because this is merely a part. Use a Star Trek as a reference. Kai Winn was a character everybody hated in Star Trek, Deep Space Nine, but the person probably knits and feeds cats. So why did they write that part? To prove a point. Why are we going through as David Brooks in the New York Times says, “the dark century” right now? It’s because we all agreed that this is where we need to be at this time.

Johnny Burke: And what you just mentioned is an example of a soul agreement, which part of a soul group.

Corbie Mitleid: Yep.

Johnny Burke: A lot of us are familiar with the term-speaking of hippies, soul brother, soul sister that seemed to be derived from soul group, soul family, and soul agreements that, again are parts that we play when we come down here. Either we had stuff to work on or someone in the group is going to benefit from that.

Corbie Mitleid: Yes. I’m going to bounce over into, well, why did bad things happen? Cause it’s not bad karma versus good karma, guys. That’s kindergarten. Rob has come up with the idea that karma is five things, unbalanced energy, which is neutral, healing, service, and contrast to learn about the abundance you have to have a rich life and poor life,and healing of beliefs.

So let’s take an example. We all know Ryan White. Ryan White was a kid in the late eighties, early nineties who got aids from a blood transfusion. And this was before we knew much about aids at all. So he was made a pariah in his town. He wasn’t allowed to go to school. They treated him horribly. In the meantime, you’ve got Elton John over in England, drinking, drugging, promiscuity, basically driving himself into the ground. But then he meets Ryan and becomes friends with a family and does a great deal for them while Ryan is alive. Being massively impressed with Ryan’s compassion and good humor and strength.

When Ryan dies, Elton plays at his funeral. Ryan inspires him to get clean and sober, which he’s been for over 30 years. And then Elton starts the Elton John aids foundation for HIV and aids research globally, which has now raised over half a billion dollars. Ryan White’s karma was that of service. His soul said tough, like short life, but look, what could result from this? With Elton. So that’s why he didn’t get aids and die young because of bad karma, he did it because he was a courageous soul.

Johnny Burke: And other people in that group can benefit from the experience. They could learn compassion.

Corbie Mitleid: Yes. I’m sure that he and Elton are in the same soul group.

Johnny Burke: Really? Okay. Do you know anybody else that you could definitely say beyond a shadow of a doubt, this person, and that person were part of a soul group as well?

Corbie Mitleid: I haven’t really thought much about it. I can only say within, my own experience, my father usually comes in as my best friend- the one who came in as my father this time. And he tends to shepherd me through the death experience. I die before he does. This time when we were playing out the what-ifs, I knew that I would need a best friend as a father because I had set up some really tough stuff for myself. He agreed. It was the first time I’d ever been with the soul that was my mother, but dad and mom had lots of karma together. So that’s tangential. Dad was in the soul group that had mom and me. He and I a long time, she, and he a long time, but she and I, for the first time. You can do that. It’s like a Venn diagram. If you think about it, the person here is part of two soul groupings.

Johnny Burke: Groupings? Okay. and soul groups can be anywhere from a handful of people to several hundred or even more?

Corbie Mitleid: Yes.

Johnny Burke: Right.

Corbie Mitleid: I would think that Jim Jones, who had the poison Kool-Aid? The people who died were all from a soul group.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Working with past lives, is it common for everyone who works with past lives to stumble into that in-between space? The pre-birth planning or is that not necessarily true?

Corbie Mitleid: I don’t know how other people read because there are literally, I am sure, hundreds of thousands, if not millions in this 8 billion person, world who can reach the past lives. So I don’t know how they do it. I just know what I do works for my clients and worked for Rob.

Johnny Burke: Speaking of mediumship readings. Is that an avenue for your client to see the in-between space? Or is that only something you are able to see?

Corbie Mitleid: I don’t look at the in-between space there. Mediumship is literally, I’m the phone line between you and dead Aunt Mabel.

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Corbie Mitleid: Channeling is different. Channeling can be Esther Hicks channels Abraham, Jane Roberts channeled, Seth, I think Ronald Herman gets archangel Michael. Channeling is bringing down information that we couldn’t get normally, so can I channel? Yes. Can I talk to dead people? Yes, but I see it as two different things.

Johnny Burke: It seems that they are, and I do believe that channeling and mediumship are often confused. It seems there’s a very gray area where it could be one or the other, but how are you abl, to learn about, or access the in-between lives space?

Corbie Mitleid: For me, it’s tangential. Stacy’s the one who gets into the room. But if you came to me and said, for instance, “why is it that I’m dealing with poverty in this life, and I can’t seem to change it.?” The thing that I do specifically, is I will go and I will look at your past lives and I’ll find, if you will cause of life. Let’s say that you were a slave trader in second-century Rome and a lot of the things you did, then your soul decided that it was going to have to learn this, this, this, this, this. I’m not actually in the pre-planning session. But I have the notes. And from there, I’ll pull down 2, 3, 4, 5 lives to now, to show you how you’ve been working on these things from life to life. Then we decide how to make it better, stronger, brighter. Change it for the better now.

Johnny Burke: Reincarnation; based on your work with past lives, we can assume that’s pretty much a no brainer you don’t have much of a doubt that that is the way things work,

Corbie Mitleid: Duh! if I can quote; nobody is smart enough to get it done in one kids, you’re just not!

Johnny Burke: How many times do you think we actually reincarnate?

Corbie Mitleid: As many as we need to. Some people love it. And some people… the numbers don’t matter. That’s ego.” Well, I only had to incarnate 697 times.” You were at 2000. Well, you get off the horse!. there are so many things we learn down here because it’s duality; because it’s compacted into material that you can’t learn when you’re up there. I will use the famous example of the white room; white room, white walls, white carpet, white piano with white keys. You’re in white clothing. You don’t know from black, the Eskimos have 250 words for snow. They don’t have one for the palm tree. What’s that?

Johnny Burke: Right.

Corbie Mitleid: So down here we learn different things. For one thing, we come both male and female. You got to be, you know, both sides of the door to understanding. It’s also, I think, are you human or other? Believe it or not, yeah- not everybody down here is completely human soul. There are people who feel they don’t belong here. There are people who long to be out of the body. If you see the movie” powder”, it’s a brilliant example of other. Me? This soul has been human all the time. The human experience, sometimes it’s tough, but it’s what I love. But I also happen to be a bridge, an ambassador because other does not frighten me. It’s one of the reasons why I wrote for Elfquest ,a wonderful science fiction, fantasy graphic novel series for 10 years because I understood what it was to be a human looking at these elves that were actually from a far star home without being afraid of them.

When people come to me and they’re very lost, I’ll give them an experiment. I’ll say,” I want you to close your eyes. I’m going to say two words to you. And you immediately tell me which one you resonate with; human, other”. And if their eyes fly open and they say” other”, there is this look of relief. In this world humanity; look at Galaxies. Do you really think that we are the only experience of a living creature that can be had? Oh, please.

Johnny Burke: Very interesting, quite a few people -intuitives, talk about how it’s very common to reincarnate from other star systems. And I can imagine the eye rolls and the smirks on people that think all this stuff is woo woo nonsense, but one of the things that comes to mind immediately is, David Bowie ? They called him a star man for a reason. Tell us a little bit more about how that works reincarnating on earth and reincarnating onto another world.

Corbie Mitleid: All right, fine. I go to Syracuse University. I want to do a semester at the University of London. I’m a foreign exchange student. It is that simple.

Johnny Burke: Really? Okay.

Corbie Mitleid: It is. If most of, if not, all of my experiences are in a human soul, then if I go out to planet zorch. And I become a Zorchian for one life. I’m other, there. I’m a foreign exchange student, but it’s how the soul chooses to form itself. Eventually, we are all drops of water in the ocean and the drop in the Atlantic Ocean may think it’s a little different from the one in the Pacific, but it’s all just water.

Johnny Burke: I think the reason I brought that up, I read something this morning about some of the predictions of Nostradamus . Apparently one of the predictions is in 2027, we are to be invaded by aliens. Now, many of us are of the opinion that there are good star beings. (I’m not going to call them aliens anymore; apparently they don’t like that ),good star beings are protecting us from other beings that are not so nice. What are your thoughts?

Corbie Mitleid: Depends on how stupid we get in five years, okay? “Invaded” is what someone would say if they’re always scared of , okay? So yeah, it could be Mars attacks, but it could be Star Trek’s first contact. You don’t know.

Eventually, somebody out there is going to want to set foot on earth if they haven’t already, or they may be here already and they may see that we are simply not learning. And like” hitchhikers guide to the galaxy” they may decide okay, we’re going to blow up earth because we need a new on route to the freeway.

Johnny Burke: Right.

Corbie Mitleid: What are you going to do in the next five years?

Johnny Burke: No Idea

Corbie Mitleid: Are you going to panic? Are you going to prep? Are you going to say if all I have is five more years, how can I make it count? Cause even if the aliens from planet Zorch invade, they don’t grab your soul. They vaporize you with a ray gun. They don’t touch the soul. That’s just how you decided to leave. That’s how you get on the bus. I cannot be afraid of that stuff. Can’t, because there’s no point in it.

Johnny Burke: For the casual observer, that may or may not believe in past lives and reincarnation, (or maybe they do, but they don’t see any evidence), one of the biggest takeaways would seem to be that we don’t die. Our bodies expire, but we seem to come back over and over again. And David Crosby, a very famous musician, was quoted as saying, “I’m one of those folks that believe we go round and round.” They had an album I believe called “DeJa’Vu.” So what are some of the most important things that people need to know about the in-between space, about pre-birth planning and reincarnation that firmly takes it out of the woo woo category and, places it into a space of” Hey guys, this isn’t BS anymore, this is the real stuff.” How do you do that?

Corbie Mitleid: I really don’t know, to be honest, because if somebody doesn’t want to believe they are not going to believe. The experience that I have with remembering my own past lives, realizing that I can actually talk to the incarnation I was before. How did they do that? Because who I was two lives ago as the German world war I pilot doesn’t have the same soul mix ingredients, if you will, as I do. There have been some resonances, for instance, he was an engineer who played the violin. My grandfather could have gotten a degree at Juilliard, he was that good at the violin, but his family said,” no, we need an engineer to work in the family factory.” people look at a picture of me and of this pilot at the same age and they say”, oh, wow. Is that your grandfather who look so much like him?” what do you know,

Literally, you don’t know anything about world war I, you’re afraid of Germans because of how you were brought up. Then all of a sudden you go someplace, and you see a World War I German reproduction plane fly. And it is so internally shattering that within the week you have to speak German. You need to know everything about World War I, you look up the pilots and some don’t know and some you love and some you can’t stand. That is the plan in your pre-birth plan. That’s when you get triggered, that’s a spiritual awakening. When I had to deal with cancer three times, the third time was a second primary, but the operations needed, took my head out of” the body as all I’m worth” and gave me a very ordinary-looking body, took away the constant idea of the physical package is important and gave me my, if you will, my teaching credentials. So all of this had to be planned pre-birth so that these lessons could be learned. Cause there was no cancer in my family. Why would I get it out of the blue? Did my mother have cancer? Yes, but she was a four-pack a day. Smoker. I don’t count that, but standard otherwise. No.

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Corbie Mitleid: You have a course catalog. You’re going to do double major plus lab or gut courses. You decide that in your pre-birth plan.

Johnny Burke: Spiritual awakening is a term that gets discussed quite a bit, in some cases, I’m not sure if the people really know what they’re talking about. I’m not talking about intuitives- just talking about more in a casual sense. Is it fair to assume that a real spiritual awakening is tied to decisions made and the in-between space, the pre-birth planning, as you say?

Corbie Mitleid: Yes, they’re set up for you. You can get a spiritual awakening through a near-death experience– they are never casually planned, or through a clap on the head or through the death of a loved one. Or through living through an earthquake or a divorce that takes you from multimillionaire to poverty. These are things that wake you up that catapult you out of the everyday hamster wheel of “this is just where I am. “They make you look at the world differently.

Johnny Burke: Going back to reincarnation; one of my favorite questions,I get a different answer almost every time. Why is it when I go to, or anyone goes to a typical Catholic church, someone brings up reincarnation and everybody gets quiet, or they change the subject. Why is it that the Catholic church still after all these years, these centuries, they don’t believe in reincarnation? Why do you suppose that is?

Corbie Mitleid: The Council of Nicea got rid of it. The idea that you could screw it up this time and without cow-towing to the church, get to try it again next time. Oh no, no. They want to say, this is the only life you have and you are filth and you are sinful and we are the only gateway to make it all better.

Johnny Burke: Which is obviously a distorted view.

Corbie Mitleid: right. There’s a difference between what I call Christianity and Churchianity and that’s Churchianity

Johnny Burke: Okay. So, and that was the Council-

Corbie Mitleid: Council of Nicea

Johnny Burke: Was there a specific reason they basically just expunged any mention of it in the text?

Corbie Mitleid: Yes, because it took away the church’s power to instill fear and obedience.

Johnny Burke: okay.

Corbie Mitleid: That’s why,

Johnny Burke: Now, since we’re talking about these types of things, have you ever had any corroboration or confirmation from spirit guides and beings of light? And that type of thing about these thoughts or is that just a gut Instinct?

Corbie Mitleid: About the council of Nicea?

Johnny Burke: Right-the reason I ask that is I notice a lot of these intuitives do profess their love for Jesus, even though they are not a fan of what you call Churchianity. They believe the Bible’s flawed, and some will even come out and say, Bible’s a useless document. You know, the church is BS.

Corbie Mitleid: Think of Jesus. I, I absolutely believe in Christ Consciousness, but Jesus just happens to be the most famous suitcase that brought it down.

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Corbie Mitleid: Was he a real person? Yes. Was he a good rabbi? Yes. Did he do miracles? Maybe I wasn’t there, but he was turned from a mentor to a guru and a cult leader by those who took it when he was dead.

Johnny Burke: So you would consider Jesus among other beings as an ascended master like Buddha?

Corbie Mitleid: Transcendental soul, maybe, Yoga Nanda…

Johnny Burke: I hear that a lot.

Corbie Mitleid: Buddha, Confucius. These are people that have been there, done that, sold their franchise in terms of coming down time, after time, after time again, and that learned things, cause remember also time is a web, not a line could be my next life is going to be in 1752 Germany. We see time as linear.

Johnny Burke: I’m glad that you brought that up because you’re telling us that it’s possible to be reincarnated into the past?

Corbie Mitleid: And there are some that believe that all of our incarnations are happening all at once. Maybe they are, this little pee brain can’t quite hold that, but you know, we’re all going to know when we’re dead.

Johnny Burke: So with the amount of, medium psychic intuitives, empaths, and people that talk about speaking to Jesus( and not in a religious way,) I guess, really started to pick up around 2012 or so.

Corbie Mitleid: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Is there one single event or a group of events that’s responsible for that or tied to that or is it just pure coincidence?

Corbie Mitleid: It’s no coincidence, but I also don’t think it’s a singularity. I think that in these times, people are trying to connect with what they believe in. But if you think that you are talking to Jesus, and if Jesus says this person is sinful, you have to slash their tires- no kids. That’s your ego.

Johnny Burke: That’s your ego, okay?

Corbie Mitleid: And that’s part of the problem with people who think that they channel Jesus, because he is at this point, a polarizing figure. Also be careful if you’re channeling Whitney Houston, George Harrison, and Robin Williams. How do you know that? Isn’t just what you want?

Johnny Burke: You don’t. How should someone who’s been interested in past lives, when and how should they get a past life reading?

Corbie Mitleid: Don’t get a past life reading just because you’re interested. Don’t go to a site and say, I must have been Anne Boleyn because I can’t wear a turtleneck, No my darlings. That’s not how it works.

Johnny Burke: That’s great.

Corbie Mitleid: When you have something that occurs that just keeps eating at you, I’ll give you two examples. When I have done past, past live readings- fast ones; a woman comes to me at an expo and says,” I’m really worried about my son, he’s 29, he won’t make any decisions without talking to me, he won’t live more than a mile away. What’s going on.?” got quiet for a minute. Went upstairs, said, “okay, I’m seeing 1944 Utah beach. He’s on the beach, his legs, pretty mangled. You’re his commanding officer. You are dragging him over a dune to hide him. You take some shrapnel too, but you both make it off the beach alive. You saved his life. She looks at me and she says, “do you see what rank I had? I said, “yeah, you were a Sergeant.” She goes, “he’s been calling me Sarge since he was three years old, and we’ve never known why. ”

Johnny Burke: Wow.

Corbie Mitleid: So that’s one, the second one, a woman was from the Midwest. She had no connection with the civil war at all, but was always fascinated by the underground railroad. Again, got quiet, went upstairs. I see a small white wash room, low ceiling. In fact, the two tall gentlemen who are in it are standing with their heads bent over because they’re too tall for the room. And you’re kneeling by the bed. looks like your dress is about 1862 or three it’s gray. It’s got black soutache around the sleeves, and there’s a rickety iron bed. And in it is a very old whim, black woman who was dying. All of you are full of grief because she had made it up from a plantation in Mississippi. She was this close to getting to Boston, which was the end of the railroad for her, but she was dying, and she wasn’t going to make it. And I opened my eyes, and this woman has tears rolling down face. And she says”, I have had that dream for 20 years exactly. I have never known what that was.”

Johnny Burke: Wow.

Corbie Mitleid: but it doesn’t mean my aura don’t stink. It just means that I’m the channel that spirit asks to get the information to. We mediums, we channels. We are only the tube it comes through. It isn’t us, because ego is one of the most dangerous things for a metaphysician. We when we start thinking it’s all about us is when we are gonna lose that gift.

Johnny Burke: I’ve never had anyone tell me that mediums or any intuitive are in danger of losing a gift. So you think the ego can actually get in the way and shut it down?

Corbie Mitleid: That’s right. Not that it is taken away from us, but what if I thought this woman is going to think I’m crazy? Or I don’t believe that she would’ve been that important. That’s my ego passing judgment on what I’m seeing, With mediumship, one of the reasons why I will never do it in public, Canastota New York years ago, there was a biracial same-gender couple. The black partner had died. Her white widow wanted to speak to her. Now look at this face, I grew up in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. I have manners, but what came flowing out of my mouth in flawless, urban Ebonics,I can’t say on the podcast-

Johnny Burke: Actually, you can.

Corbie Mitleid: It would not -all right. fine. She said,” well, shit, if it ain’t my white bitch”, and the woman sitting in front of me is laughing and nodding because that is how her partner Isabelle walked into the house, coming back from every business trip. If had censored that or gentled down the words to her? That’s ego being afraid, and she would not have gotten that absolute message. But when we know we’re just the tube, we put it out there and we trust.

Johnny Burke: Right. You don’t make a judgment on it.

Corbie Mitleid: That’s Right. And it’s that way. When you do psychic readings or tarot readings or whatever. You are the tube that comes through, don’t censor what you get.

Johnny Burke: I think that’s good advice for anyone who’s interested in looking into reading. Corbie, thanks so much for joining us today. How can our listeners find out more about you online?

Corbie Mitleid: Oh, they can’t avoid me. Go to my website, www.corbymitlied.com. You can find me on YouTube, Pinterest, Instagram, Medium Patreon, all under corbiemitlied.com, and on Facebook it’s Fire Through Spirit.

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