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September 2, 2022

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Lucy Brand. She is an energy Alchemist, galactic shaman, divine channeler, and founder of Energetic Essence Healing. Today, we will be continuing our discussion on the metaphysical world. Lucy, welcome back to the program.

Lucy Brand: Thank you for having me again. I think I had so much fun the first time. I’m glad to be

invited back.

Johnny Burke: We actually did have a very good time talking about the metaphysical world, in the first episode. And I wanted to make sure that we didn’t miss anything. So for those who may not have heard the first episode, the first installment, what is your understanding of metaphysics and, otherwise the metaphysical world ?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. So my interpretation or understanding of it is it’s how the universe comes together, but in a way, we can’t quite figure it out. So, everything from universe dimensions, different realms, us as beings, other beings. But also, you know how love- there’s no mathematical equation for love. There is just a magic in love. There’s no rhyme or reason or strategy to it. And that’s what I think metaphysics is about the universe. It’s more of a feeling of how everything comes together rather than statistics like science

Johnny Burke: I think it’s interesting that you mention there is no equation or, algorithm for love. But when you talk about love, I don’t think that it’s the fuzzy love that we associate with relationships. It’s more of a, higher love that kind of bonds us all together.

Lucy Brand: Yeah. If I’m talking about the source of all that is, or the divine, or some people call it God, or like the universe that or higher consciousness. That’s a different kind of love to human love if you see what I mean. But again, there’s no mathematical equation for the divine, and how I might see the divine and you see, it might be different as well – different interpretations.

Johnny Burke: And if there was an equation or if there was a, math or a calculus for love I’m sure Elon Musk will probably try to buy that company, right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I think everyone would be. I think everyone would do that if we found the formula for love.

Johnny Burke: Yeah. The formula, the calculus. Yeah. It’s a great idea though. So how do time and space fit into the grand picture of the metaphysical world? I’ve heard lots of different theories and I’ve also heard that time might even be an illusion. What are your thoughts?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, my understanding is that time is an illusion. It’s a human construct so that we can better understand the universe cuz otherwise our minds are just blown. We can’t wrap our heads around something. So with what I look at, I believe that time doesn’t exist. So past lives don’t actually exist, cuz it’s all happening at the same time, across different dimensions, and across different timelines,but that’s quite hard to wrap your head around sometimes.

Johnny Burke: indeed.

Lucy Brand: I see it when we heal in this lifetime or even in another lifetime, you see how it frees up different things, challenges that are happening in other lifetimes. So it kind of makes sense. It’s like a ripple effect.

Johnny Burke: Could that be related to the butterfly effect?

Lucy Brand: Hmm. Completely, but just not necessarily just on planet earth, but throughout the whole of the universe.

Johnny Burke: It’s not the first time I’ve heard that. So if I understand you correctly if we heal something in this lifetime, it’s also possible to heal something in, let’s say another lifetime- the time element can be very confusing. You’re right. It’s a lot to get our heads around, but is that possible?

Lucy Brand: Oh completely. That happens all the time. I tend to be the last resort for a lot of people. And they’ve tried everything in this dimension, this world, and it’s not working. So I will look at their past lives and not that past lives exist, but that’s the term we’ve got for it. And something will have happened in their past life that is actually impacting them now in this current reality. So we heal that, and then it completely changes their current reality. Like they’re able to let go or move on or something just heals within them.

Johnny Burke: but it’s a lot easier for us to imagine an axis going from a, to B like a horizontal axis as if to say, well, you have an issue now because in a past life, challenge someone to a duel, and you lost, and that’s why you’ve always felt a certain way about something.

I remember reading about Edgar Cayce, in one of his cases he was doing a reading for a gentleman that apparently had a past life of Alexander Hamilton, who we know died in a gun duel. I think it’s easier for us to think “okay that goes back to 1812 and now here we are in 20 22. Now that I’ve resolved that I feel better about my life in the present.

Lucy Brand: Yeah, but it’s also like phobias. It can be anything. Like I had an absolute terrified of cruise ships. Couldn’t even look at them. They just terrified me. And when I explored it deeper for myself, I actually died around Victorian times on a cruise ship, it sank in the Atlantic on its way to America. So I went down with the ship and I was like, “oh, that makes so much sense.” So what I would do is go into that life and just heal it so that we can let it go. Cuz we carry so much stuff in our beings. Karma or whatever you wanna call it. So it’s kind of healing that on an energetic level, it kind of frees you up and lightens you up. You’re not as burdened.

Johnny Burke: Now that particular lifetime, you were able to go back and you remember being on the cruise ship did you actually go as far as to when you actually died and when the ship went under?

Lucy Brand: Yeah drowning, drowning is quite common in past lives. A lot of our past lives are not that nice. I’ve experienced past lives on different planets and different galaxies and things like that. So in one of them, I was really not a nice person or being, in this particular galaxy. And so my understanding right now is the reason I do the work I do in the world is I’m kind of making up for some really bad stuff that I did in other lifetimes. So my karma…

Johnny Burke: Well, you must be doing a great job because you seem to be a very nice person. So I think you’re not in arrears anymore. You’re caught up. That’s my guess. Anyway.

Lucy Brand: we’ll see, but I.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Yeah, only time will tell- that’s true. Let’s talk about the dimensions because we’ve talked before about how we’re multidimensional beings. Do the dimensions correspond with the ones that are commonly discussed? Third dimensions, the fourth dimension, the fifth dimension, and going up to whatever the end is. We hear a lot about 3d and 5 d. Does the multidimensionality have to do with that discussion or is it, something completely different?

Lucy Brand: Well, I feel that there’s infinite dimensions. So it’s the same as I feel there’s infinite Chakras, the vortexes of energy, plugging us into the universe above us and plugging us into the earth below us. So I think pretty much most things in this universe are infinite. The dimensions are infinite and the way I kind of try and rationalize this maybe is that,in the different dimensions, there’s different aspects of myself living. So that could be in a past life. It could be on another planet. It’s all happening at the same time but in a different dimension. One of my references to this is, if we look at Jesus turning water into wine and bread, like feeding the thousands. I wonder what dimension he was living in to be able to do that? What dimension did he see to be able to manifest that? He must have had no limiting beliefs or ?

Johnny Burke: He was on another level

Lucy Brand: Yeah. And

Johnny Burke: As are the other ascended masters right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, exactly. So that’s what makes me feel that we are only scraping the surface of the different dimensions that are possible. But I do feel that planet earth is going through a shift right now as a whole planet into another, I’m not sure whether I would call it a dimension. I call it a new way of being the new paradigm, which I believe is here. And that’s what we’re kind of trying to navigate right now.

Johnny Burke: it seems like there’s an awful lot of upheaval. Everybody knows what’s in the news these days and even on the world front with what’s happening with Ukraine and Russia. When you mention a shift that reminds me of what some other speakers that have been on the show, talk about, moving away from the masculine energy to the feminine energy, or does that have anything to do with the divine feminine? or is that a different construct?

Lucy Brand: Yes, I believe it is. The old paradigm which was called the Piscean Age was very much focused on the masculine. It was set up for the masculine. The new paradigm, which is the Age of Aquarius is more about love and unity, and equality. So I actually feel it’s about the divine feminine, having a seat at the table with the divine masculine and every other energies in between , rather than one being higher than the other, because the thing with the Piscean Age, the old paradigm, it was very hierarchical. So it was structured.

That’s what we’re seeing right now is these structures are just falling away, cuz they’re no longer working for this new way of coming in this new way of being, which again is about love. It’s about community. The old paradigm was about competition. What can I get? And the Aquarius age is more about, we’ll see advancements in technology, we’ll see advancements in helping the greater good with technology as well. I believe this prediction, whether this comes true or not,, because it depends on people’s choices as we have free will. But people going back to growing their own vegetables, more sustainable living, and more thought and care in the way we are living towards mother earth and planet earth.

Johnny Burke: This would be aligned with the concept of community and unity. What you mentioned before- everything was about competition, that’s still firmly in place. You compete for a job, you compete for the girlfriend or the boyfriend, or when I was a musician, there was such a competition for bands to get record deals that it basically just squeezed all the good, all the fun out of it. And I think a lot of us kind of missed the point. It wasn’t about being better than someone else. It was about creating something that would hopefully last longer than we would, art as it were. Do you think that’s eventually gonna fall away and we are gonna actually enter that age? What you call the Aquarian Age.?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. So there are a couple of things I’d like to mention here. So first I think it’s already seeing it. So, it depends on what you follow. I’m not sure if I’m gonna remember her name correctly. But she was the front woman for the Dresden Dolls. Amanda Palmer. So she was one of the first people to adopt the crowdfunding way of producing an album. And she made a million by offering different levels. How it is done now, crowdfunding, she was kind of a pioneer in that, and that was the first time that someone didn’t have to go to a record company, went to their fans instead. So I’ve seen it change, in different things.

Another, so I’m a bit of a Dungeons and Dragons player. I also watch a show called Critical Role. Voice actors play Dungeons and Dragons in LA and they live stream it. So they wanted to create a cartoon version, an animation of their show. They went to all the big names. No one was interested. So they crowdfunded it and they again blew records out of the water. I think they got $12 million. So then all the big giants then came knocking. And so I feel like it is happening, but it’s kind of an underground movement at the moment. And we’re gonna see more of it, I believe because again, the old structures and the old way of doing stuff where it’s competition isn’t gonna work.

And the other side of this is you are not in competition with someone else because what you bring to the table is different from what someone else brings to the table. And you are just gonna click with someone and they’re gonna click with someone else. But as long as you are your authentic self, then you’re always gonna win. If I can use that word, there is no competition cuz you can’t be in competition with that other person, cuz you are uniquely you.

Johnny Burke: That’s definitely a good way to look at it. I just really wish that the job marketplace in the corporate world or whatever you wanna call it, there would be more of a community feel where everyone brings their unique quality, their unique skill set, where there isn’t such a competition. Because that, to me, it’s like a minus sum game for every winner there has to be a loser. And I think you’re right at some point, in the future of mankind , for us to really progress, that’s gotta basically fall to the wayside.

Let’s talk about your work and what you do. And some of your experiences with this metaphysical world that we’re talking about today.

Lucy Brand: As I’ve said in the previous episode, I was born with a lot of my gifts, because I come from a long line of witches, but then I have dived into studying shamanism and different elements to kind of, activate myself in different powers or healing modalities. Some of the things I’ve experienced, have been quite out there and I think one of the most intense one was I just finished a shamanic training, program, and I really got to delve into the different worlds that were available and I was with a client and, It was almost like this shadow entity- that’s what I tend to call them. For me, they look like, in the old cartoons where your shadow would do completely a different thing to what the cartoon character is doing. That’s what they look like. And he was being particularly aggressive and silencing this client. It was kind of scary. I’m not gonna lie. cause I was kind of a bit new to all this. But I called in reinforcements I called in my angels, called in extra people to help me remove him and take him to the light.

Then it was after this experience that I just realized that we are all-powerful. Nothing can really hurt us unless we choose to- we have choice. And it was that moment where I just was like, “wow”, like a recognition of how powerful I am, but so is everyone, because your word is law, anything in those other realms, those other dimensions can’t touch you, can’t hurt you if you say no.

Johnny Burke: I think I told you about this before when I went to a Reiki healer for the first time. I stood in a circle with the ladies. I think there were four or five of them. And, the ringmaster, the leader, said, what sounded like an incantation almost, or just prayer. “Only light and love can come in and only light and love can leave.” That’s basically saying ”these are the boundaries.’ So everybody else, if you’re not light and love, get lost, or don’t bother, cuz we’re not gonna let you in.

Lucy Brand: I do that all the time with my house. I say, “only beings of light are welcome here. All else must leave now. “And then it’s done. Like

Johnny Burke: I like how you said that – leave now. Or, I’m gonna have Lucy Brand come after you and then you’re really gonna be in trouble. You think you’re hurting now? Leave now while you can. Seriously though, that’s very good for all of us to know that we are powerful beings and, it reminds me that the Vampire Diaries where apparently a vampire could not come into the house unless they’re invited. It’s the same concept. Right? , and you don’t have to be religious obviously,

Lucy Brand: Not at all. I think it’s really good for you to do it. Like if you’ve been struggling a bit, so if I’ve been ill, my defenses will have been low. So that’s a time that a shadow entity might see a chink in my armor so might decide to come and hang out in my house and make me feel a bit more miserable or whatever. So that’s why I would definitely say something like that: “Only beings of light are welcome here, or else must leave now “and say it in an authoritarian voice as well. Especially after you’ve not been feeling well, or maybe you’ve been feeling a bit down or whatever, just to cleanse your house, like cleanse where you are. You could even do it at work as well. And see if like, no one bothers you that you’re not a fan of.

Johnny Burke: right. Exactly. No, that’s good .That’s good. right. A protective bubble. Okay. So I remember you were telling me about an instance with one of your clients. We didn’t have time to go onto this the last time, but, apparently, some of your clients are having their first incarnation on Earth, which could be challenging because, if they’ve had lifetimes on other planets that were easier- this place is it’s rough- that’s what I’ve been told anyway. Tell us a little bit about that.

Lucy Brand: Yes. I just kind of can spot people that it’s their first lifetime here because they tend to be quite confused at how the world works, why it is such a certain way and why it’s so hard, especially if they’ve been on other planets where they’ve manifested like that, or it’s just been a lot more love and light and easier. From what I understand, it’s a real honor and privilege to come to planet earth. And the reason we come back is that we want to work off karma and this is the quickest planet to do that on because it is so challenging. I think when we are on the other side, it’s almost like a classroom situation where you’re like, “oh, I’m gonna work off that karma, or do that. And then when you’re actually born here and you get here, you realize that it’s just not that easy and that maybe taking on all that karma in this one lifetime was a bit much

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that you come here to learn, but it’s not as hard at home because everything’s love and light and that’s great but do some people decide? Well, I’ve been there before and I’m never going back. The last time I was there, President Trump was ruling the country and I never, ever wanna see that again. Is that possible?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, completely. It doesn’t matter what universe you’re in, what planet you’re on, or even if you’re on the other side with the divine, you have a choice. So you choose to come back. My understanding again, of what I’ve channeled and asked my guides is that some people, when they have particularly traumatic lifetimes or, how do I word this? particularly, not very nice in their lifetime they actually go to a healing place. Some people aren’t allowed to reincarnate on planet earth for if we’re gonna put it in human terms years and years and years, cuz they need to heal from what they’ve done or they need to learn lessons from what they’ve done. On the other side, it is all love and light. So they’d never be reprimanded, but there’d be almost like shown a reel of what they did. And if that person has then become love and light, cause they’ve gone to the other side, they will be, I imagine pretty disappointed in themselves. so but I think, let me just check, um, yeah, so we always have a choice. Has anyone said they can’t come back? No.

Johnny Burke: Were you asking yourself or were you asking one of your beings of light- friends?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I was just asking like the guide of mine, like of being of light. I was just checking in with them because I don’t have all the answers, but I can get them for you.

Johnny Burke: Oh, my, that could be a dangerous thing for some of us. I’m not sure I really want to know all the answers to my questions, but that’s probably a discussion for another day. interesting concept though. So since you’ve channeled certain beings, beings of light, and angels, do you have a visual picture of what home- the other side actually looks like?

Lucy Brand: Yes and no. Like, to me it looks like many, many different rooms, depending on what you wanna know, where you wanna go or what dimension you wanna be in. I’ve said that the same soul circle ,each other to work off their karma. So if my grandma hasn’t reincarnated, when I’m on the other side, I’ll probably wanna go out and hang out with her for a while. and just be with her for a bit. They’re all in different maybe rooms is wrong, different dimensions. It’s like different planes that I see that happening. And there’s some people that just don’t wanna come back. They don’t wanna work off their karma. And that’s cool too. That’s okay. Like it really is. Any decision that you make is absolutely okay with the divine, cuz they’re only love and light and forgiveness. So it doesn’t matter what you do really. You’re always gonna be forgiven for it.

Johnny Burke: Wow. Okay. Now is it true then ,when someone goes home – apparently all of us go home. There is no hell as you and others have told me before. When someone goes to that in-between space, and they make their soul contracts and, then they come back, is it true that a portion of the soul stays home? Can you tell us a little bit more about how that works ?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, that is true because we’re multidimensional beings living in different dimensions. So there’s a part of you. That’s always gonna be home, there’s like different parts of you scattered around the universe. if you think of your soul as multidimensional and so expansive and infinite, and that’s just, let’s say your soul and my soul is that……, I’m not sure. Let me just check. No, I’m not sure it would be possible to contain it in one human . Cause it’s too awesome-if that makes sense

Johnny Burke: Yeah, it does. I just imagined for a moment you and I can be in a different dimension watching us in this discussion. And I can hear you saying, “well, Johnny, you’re pretty good at this. I didn’t even have to give you the script”, and we’re just having a joke about it.

Lucy Brand: Yeah, Totally.

Johnny Burke: I’m just making this up ;I’m imagining that, but I’ve had another guest speaker that came on recently that pretty much gave me the same scenario and I thought,’ okay I can see that happening. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’m not gonna say it isn’t happening.”

That would explain how we’re multidimensional beings and we’re able to be in different places at the same time. What about when you have a dream about people and places that, let’s say it’s in the present- It seems to be present day ,and you’ve never met them in your physical life, but they are absolutely familiar. Is that an example of how part of us is in another dimension with these people, and that’s why we’re dreaming about them?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, that could be so many things. That could bethat you’ve had a past life with this person, or they’re in another dimension and perhaps they are one of the souls that circle you, but right now they’re in a different dimension. Or, we go places in our sleep, our consciousness, our higher self, our soul, if you want, it’ll go places in sleep. So, you’ll go and meet people while you are sleeping.

Johnny Burke: it does seem like that though doesn’t it? It really does. And I’ve had several of these dreams and I’m thinking, I’ve never met this girl, but I somehow feel like I know her or him or whatever. And this place, which I’ve never been to, but I know I’ve been here before, but this body’s never really been there . The multidimensional explanation would kind of make that a little bit more plausible. At least that’s what I think now.

Lucy Brand: When you do stuff that I do and jump timelines, it makes it hard to pinpoint when an event actually happened in your life. But I think it was maybe in 2021 and I was waking up so tired, so exhausted. When I checked in with myself, what is going on? Why am I so tired? My spirit was actually going to America and was helping people in America. Just reassuring people, in that spirit dimension. When my spirit was coming back in the morning, I was exhausted.

And a lot of the time I felt quite down, cuz it was quite serious, tough stuff that was going on in the states. So what I had to say again, is because I’m the authority in my life. I said I’m happy for my spirit and soul to go off at night to heal while I sleep. But when you come back, I want you to close all portals and dimensions with love and light so that they’re not gonna bring any other energies back that are lower energies, and lucy, the human, needs enough rest to be able to have a great day the next day and feel good about herself The next day I jumped out of bed, I was like,” oh yes, my energy’s back.” It is so powerful the awareness,

Johnny Burke: It’s moments like these, that I’m glad that I do transcripts, I know people are gonna want to go ‘where is this written down?’ Well, if you go towww.closertovenus.com, everything from episode 38 and up has a transcript. I think some people like to read anyway,

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I’m one of those people

Johnny Burke: it is very good to know. cause it’s not something that we really hear every day. The lives on the other planets, the decisions? I imagine this is planned in between incarnations. Do we make that decision or is it made for us?

Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah. We make all the decisions. It’s totally our choice, as to what you wanna do and what planet you wanna reincarnate on and you even choose who your parents are, and who your family members are. You choose who you’re gonna see who you’re gonna meet. And then there is obviously stuff will happen because everyone has free will on this planet. So you might have a plan when you come here, but then someone else might do something that’s not part of that plan. And then things might change. Anything can change in a split second. That’s why predicting the future doesn’t always work because it depends on other people and the decisions they’ve made.

Johnny Burke: A lot of moving parts there. So is it possible that when my time comes and I decide where, and when I wanna reincarnate, can I say, ‘well, I’m gonna go to planet Zoltar , but I wanna make sure Prince, Michael Jackson and David Bowie are my best friends from like age five.’ Can we do that? That’s probably a lot to ask for.

Lucy Brand: I’m sure you can. I’m sure you can. I don’t think it’s a lot to ask for like, literally, I think there are no limits and source will just be, have what you want.

Johnny Burke: I forgot John Lenon and George Harrison as well. And I’ll even play bass if I have to. and I don’t offer that very often. it’s good to know. It’s I think it’s eye-opening for a lot of us -it makes the possibility of alien life and worlds and different planets a lot more believable because a lot of people are talking about being reincarnated on different planets . From what I’ve heard, from some of the mediums, they talk about how these beings don’t like being called aliens. Because alien means apart, and they apparently do not feel like they are apart from us- that we’re part of the same star family. Do you agree?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I believe we all come from the same one- we’re all like part of the same thing, but just in a different form, a different aspect. I really just wanted to share something that’s coming through right now. Someone needs to hear this, that’s listening to the podcast. If when you make a decision or when you take an action, I would always preface that with,” for the highest of all involved” because then it offers it up to source basically. So whatever decision someone else might make for you, it will be kind of like a protection bubble. Again, the highest good for all involved will come out.

Johnny Burke: Is that the same thing as saying, ” I wish for a most beneficial outcome for my work life, my family, or most beneficial outcome for my podcast to reach the people that it has to reach. “And by the way, this isn’t live. So the only person that’s really listening other than you is me. So that message was for me? Or am I just dreaming?

Lucy Brand: No, it could be, but I think it’s for a listener somewhere. They’ll just tell me someone that listens to the podcast.

Johnny Burke: Which means someone other than you and I that’s listening right now ?

Lucy Brand: No, will be in the future. Yeah. Because time doesn’t exist.

Johnny Burke: Sorry- I stand corrected. It’s true. as. You make the rules, not me. That’s interesting though, there is no time. . What happens before we are incarnated here on earth?

Lucy Brand: It depends what you wanna do. Some people, have to go into deep states of healing because of what they’ve experienced on planet earth, in their lifetime. Other people, would wanna do more research, because if you think about it every time you come back, you’re gonna play a different character. If you like, you could be a different gender, working off different karma, different things. So I imagine that when you’ve had a life here, you might be like feeling quite inspired about how you wanna next reincarnate, or what movement or what thing you wanna bring forth or stand for, or, how you wanna change.Because I believe that every baby that’s born is of love and light, it’s only their experiences through life, which then make them what they are. I was checking in earlier about perhaps chemical imbalances in the mind, which then results in things.

But apart from that, I feel a lot of people come here with a purpose of some kind to heal ,or move or help the planet, but some of us just get lost or caught up and that’s okay too. There’s never gonna be any reprimand for it. But I think then when you go onto the other side, you’ll be like, ‘oh, I wish I could have done that differently, so maybe I’m gonna go and research how someone else did it. You have access to all these records of life and time. Well, you might be like,” do you know what?I need to take the next millennia off. I’m exhausted from that life. So I’m just gonna chill, hang out in this love and light” if they showed me everything on the other side, my brains would probably explode. I wouldn’t be able to handle it. So this is just my limited understanding as a human

Johnny Burke: You were just talking about the access to just about anything you want. Anything you need, to learn about. Is it true that manifestation, when you’re on the other side is instant ? I’ve heard this from people who’ve had near-death experiences where they think of something and they’re there, they think of someone, and they’re there. In your channeling experience and related experiences, do you find that to be true?

Lucy Brand: Oh, yeah, completely. So on the other side, there’s no resistance cuz there’s love and light. On planet earth,this is a very dense planet. It’s a very heavy planet. And there’s a lot of resistance. As humans, our emotions can get in the way, our beliefs can get in the way of us manifesting what we want. For example, we don’t feel worthy of it or whatever. So then we’re on a different frequency cuz our desires are hanging out in joy and bliss normally. And if we are feeling unworthy, we’re in a completely different frequency. And then there’s loads of resistance between you and your desire. Whereas on the other side, because you are love and light, it like manifests like that cuz there’s no resistance. There’s no unworthiness or not good enough. ‘

Johnny Burke: That’s something to look forward to for a lot of us. What is light language and how is it different from the other healing modalities?

Lucy Brand: So light language, how it manifests in me is sounds, so I speak it. And the way I can share it with you is I channel galactic beings of the light. So when I heal people with my light language, it’s the highest frequency that I’ve ever channeled. So in shamanic healing, it tends to be earth-based frequencies, which are denser. Whereas the angelic frequencies, the light language frequencies are much higher that lights, they transform, things like that, just so fast. Then you can channel different things for different things to be healed depending on what beings wanna come forward.

Johnny Burke: So light language is, is that the same thing an angelic frequency?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Excellent.

Lucy Brand: It’s different for different people. Like different people channel. I get very giggly with mine cuz it’s quite high frequency.

Johnny Burke: It’s possible that we might have to devote another episode to the light language because it’s not something we hear about every day. Are there any other messages that are coming forward right at the moment?

Lucy Brand: No, I haven’t really got any other messages apart from just. Keep going, keep going, and just know that it’s all gonna work out okay. And that you’re doing a great job. That’s for everyone that’s listening and including you, Johnny too. it is just having that hug that reassurance. That’s how I see this podcast. It’s almost like a reassurance like it’s okay. It’s okay.

Johnny Burke: All right. well, that is reassuring, I think. great stuff. So, Lucy, thanks again for being with us, and coming back. That will conclude the metaphysical world part two, but who knows? We might have another episode of the light language down the pike. How can our listeners find more about you online?

Lucy Brand: On my website, www.lucy-brand.com. And you can also find me on Instagram @ energeticessencehealing.

#86 Lucy Brand: The Metaphysical World Part I

September 10, 2022 by Johnny Burke

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Lucy Brand. She’s an energy alchemist, galactic shaman, divine channeler, and founder of Energetic Essence Healing. She helps women to heal challenges in their current life through channeling the divine angels, galactic beings, fairies, and looking at past lives. All of which we will be talking about today. Lucy, welcome to the program.

Lucy Brand: Thanks you so much for having me. I’m so excited to be here, Johnny.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. your journey into the metaphysical world covers many areas. How did you get started on this path?

Lucy Brand: I think it’s always been there. It’s always been within me which might sound really corny, but I’ve just always known that I’ve been different and always been able to see things or sense things or hear things that other people couldn’t from a very young age. And so I guess to me, it’s normal, like that experience. It was only as I started to get older that I realized other people don’t hear voices or see things in the same way that I do.

Johnny Burke: You may have been reading my mind just a little bit there because what I was going to say is, it’s very common for intuitives to be able to see and hear things that other people could not. It almost always happens at a younger age,

Lucy Brand: Yeah,

Johnny Burke: Three, four or five years old, so.

Lucy Brand: Definitely. When I was very young, I think I was four or five. I had an imaginary friend, and my mom would have to set a place at the dinner table for them and plug them into the car with the seatbelts and stuff. They were very real to me.

Johnny Burke: seat belts?

Lucy Brand: You’d have to get in the car with us. And yeah, my parents never shamed me. They went along with it all, but now back then I know that yeah, I was seeing things. I did sense things. I remember I was probably about three, when an angel visited me and gave me kind of my book of life, of what I wanted to do, should I choose to do it. There was just lots of things that I could kind of pick if I wanted to do. And it was such a beautiful experience. I think just from a very young age, these things were very normal to me.

Johnny Burke: Now you mentioned the Book of Life. Could that be the same thing as the Akashic Records or is it something different?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, it could be, I personally don’t know a lot about the Akashic Records. What I have found in my personal experience is that sometimes a lot of people like to put labels on things as humans, and my labels don’t necessarily match up to someone else’s labels because it’s my experience of something. So in that way, it could have been the Akashic Records, but my understanding was, it was only this lifetime we were looking at, not all lifetimes. And my understanding of the records is it’s across all lifetimes and all energetic footprints.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard the same thing, but the book of life seems to be related; it could be the soul blueprint. Was that an angel or a spirit guide? Or are those terms sometimes interchangeable?

Lucy Brand: I think those terms are interchangeable, but I think this was definitely an angel to me because they were very bright white, and I’ve had experiences. Even a few years ago, I was at, a meetup for women entrepreneurs and a lady was speaking and I was listening, it was about 10 in the morning, and all of a sudden Archangel Michael and Archangel Raphael appeared behind me. I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. Angel bumps on my skin. My hair was like, I was electric, and I was like, not now! Like I’m trying to listen to this lady speak. And they were just,- I was just like, this is so inappropriate. And they were so impressive with their wings- I could feel them, but I could see them as well, but obviously there was, it was a packed room, but they were in there and they just delivered the message at the time that it was now time for me to start speaking about my experiences, because I kind of have been in a bit of the closet with them. cause some of them have been quite wild.

Johnny Burke: That is so cool. It sounds like it’s too good to be true. Can you tell those guys to come visit me sometime” so I can say a little prayer: “Please help me in this episode, uncover the love and the light ….and please make me look cool?”

Lucy Brand: Not at all.

Johnny Burke: All right. Hopefully they don’t get angry with me but, seriously though, I think a lot of us, when we used to go to church, when we were younger, those are the experiences that we wanted. But after a while, I started to think okay, so where are the angels? Where are they? I think a lot of people felt the same way. So during these experiences, did any of your friends or cohorts witness the same thing or was it just your personal experience?

Lucy Brand: No, just my personal experience. I have had really powerful healing sessions with other healers, but that would tend to be more past lives. And they would maybe see the past life that I’m seeing that’s my own. I would say that those experiences are just reserved for me, which I think is really beautiful, but anyone could have those experiences.

I feel everyone’s intuitive. It’s about opening yourself up. I think this might be true. Well, it resonates with me, is talk to angels or spirit guides or whatever you choose to believe in source, divine, but not just when things are bad. Because even if things are good, they can help elevate them to something better. That’s why I always a set, like an intention for the equivalent or something better for the highest good of all involved, because my human consciousness is so small compared to that of the divine or source, or even angels, that if I offer it up, my human consciousness might not even be able to conceive of the amazingness that’s possible.. I feel that when I’ve worked with people, trying to help them develop, it starts with a feeling in your body, listening for the feedback for them to come back to you.

Johnny Burke: so speaking of the feeling and having them come back to you, do you find in your experience that expressing gratitude can raise our vibration and foster, more communication?

Lucy Brand: Don’t know. That’s a really good question. That might be true. again, it’s just something that I’ve done for such a long time. I probably take it for granted a bit because I have conversations with them all the time. My husband now knows a difference when I’m talking to myself or angels or something or him because I’m constantly talking to beings. Spirits. Yeah. This for me it’s they’re in the room with me all the time. So it’s just never stops unless I tell them to go.

Johnny Burke: Are they here now?

Lucy Brand: Oh yeah. They’re all here all the time!

Johnny Burke: I think that’s pretty incredible. When you have these communications, is it like telepathic? Is it a voice in your head or is it just a knowing? How does that work?

Lucy Brand: I think it’s all of them because you see sometimes it can be difficult to translate into human words, what they’re showing me. So, sometimes it can be difficult to translate, so for me, I see things, or I sense things. or sometimes I muscle test, if I’m too emotionally attached, it can make the signal a bit squiggly, if that makes sense. So then I will muscle test it, whether it’s a yes or a no to something.

But normally for me, it’s seeing, or hearing or feeling. yeah, I see everything. Yeah. Sometimes it’s a bit much like to be honest with you, a lot of past lives, aren’t that pleasant for most of us , so when sometimes some of the things I see in past lives, aren’t that nice. And I’m like, “oh. Dude, you don’t have to show me this. I get it.” I get it”

Johnny Burke: I like how you did that,” dude. You don’t have to show me that “that’s incredible. This is something I definitely want to get into- the past lives, but before we get to that and we will- you have a vast background in this journey of yours: energy alchemist, galactic shaman- that might be an entire episode unto itself ,and divine channeler so what actually came first?

Lucy Brand: I feel that it was the divine channeler, because I’ve always been connected to the divine in some way and been able to channel things or see things or hear things. Then I would say the energy alchemist came probably in my thirties throughout my life I would have people tell me” you’re a healer, you’re a healer.” And I’d be like, “but I don’t want to be a healer. Stop it. ” to be honest, I shut it all down when I was 15 because the dead could contact me and I was hearing voices and stuff like that. It’s hard enough being a teenager without that stuff. So I really shut it all off.

But then late twenties, and early thirties, I really started to open up to it again. And that’s when I started looking more into shamanism and energy work. And that’s when the energy alchemist came because I realized I could help people through shifting energy and moving stuck energy. And then the galactic shaman, that was when my light language came through probably about five years ago. Then started channeling beings from galactic realms. so they’re different to angels. And I found when I started that I had an Arcturian council of 12 that would help me with channeling, but now I can channel any galactic being I desire.

Johnny Burke: Wow that’s really incredible. The first thought would be energy shamanism and channeling. It’s connected. Isn’t it?

Lucy Brand: Completely.

Johnny Burke: It’s all part of the quantum realm. At least that’s what I’ve been told.

Lucy Brand: this is all just my experience and my perspective. So my understanding of this is like, we are all one, so I am connected to the divine, but I’m also connected to an Arcturian being and they’re all just in different realms, but because time doesn’t exist, I am in all those realms at the same time, because I’m a multidimensional being. So when you kind of get that, wrap your head around it, you realize that you could channel anything or anyone, even for the energy sources of trees or nature on this planet, everything has an energy signature.

Johnny Burke: This might open up a completely different rabbit hole, but Arcturians;what do they look like and what is their intention? Or is that a topic for another day?

Lucy Brand: From my experience, my connection, they’re kind of the master healers of the universe and also very, very intelligent and also have the fastest spacecraft in the universe as well. So they do a lot of humanitarian work. And I have seen that as well. I’ve seen some wild stuff that I’ve done, but I’ve had to close a portal in someone’s lounge where some galactic refugees that look like giant toads were coming through into the lounge. So I had to close- I know, this is like 11 o’clock on a Tuesday morning. so I had to close that portal. Yeah. Someone’s lounge.

Johnny Burke: a house like a living room?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. The thing is when you start opening up to stuff like this, and she’d started to open up the channels, but she wasn’t protecting her energy and protecting our home. That’s the biggest thing; you’ve got to protect yourself and create kind of barriers really, like protections around yourself when you start doing this work. But she couldn’t see stuff, she could just sense it. So she knew something was going on in her lounge, but she couldn’t see it. So I came over and I was like, oh yeah, I can see it. What’s yeah, what’s going on.

Johnny Burke: Pretty incredible. And what you just said about protections. I wanted to ask you this anyway with your talents, being able to speak to the dead and other beings for that matter- is there any reason why you didn’t just become a medium or…

Lucy Brand: Yeah,

Johnny Burke: is that something you wanted to avoid?

Lucy Brand: That doesn’t float my boat. So my experience of- let’s call them spirits. So my understanding is you pass over and then some people go to the light and, I don’t know, there’s this other world there or this other realm, which is, Love and Light. But then there’s some people that kind of get stuck in the middle. And I’ve helped some of those people go to the light because everyone goes to the light. There is no hell, but the people that tend to get stuck in the middle, some people call them ghosts. My experience- they tend to be a bit angry or have got a bit of vengeance or something like that because they don’t know they’re dead. Because they haven’t wanted to die, or something happened. There was a freak accident or something like that.

If we talk about energies, right? When you channel energies, you are still kind of on some level embodying that energy. You’re still taking it in as a healer, a channeler, you’re still taking that into your system, into your nervous system. With people that kind of died in that way it tends to be heavy energy. There tends to be a lot of sorrow, sadness, anger, and those denser heavier emotions. My knowing from a very young age was that would take its toll on you. Whereas what I channel is the lighter frequencies, like light language, galactic beings, angels, and their frequencies, are a lot higher. then say these other frequencies.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that quite a bit. Unfortunately, when people die in a certain manner, let’s say even a suicide- who knows for sure, but they might be stuck in that in-between world. Hopefully, I think I heard you say everyone eventually goes to the light. There is no hell. There is no eternal damnation.

Lucy Brand: Yeah. And it really is easy. Sometimes they’re just lost. like, ” there’s the light, go on off you go” In my experience of the other side, there is only love and light. And that’s really what is here for us on planet earth. But it’s our humanness that can get in the way of that. Everyone has a free will on this planet. People can choose to behave in a way that might not be appropriate.

Johnny Burke: We will have to dive into that on another episode or another show, but definitely some great stuff there. I think it’s good for people- including myself to hear that. You also come from a long line of witches. I believe it’s on your dad’s side. How did you find out about that?

Lucy Brand: Interestingly, I always kind of knew. So it only passes down the female line. It doesn’t pass down the male line in my particular lineage and my grandma would read tea leaves and she would get together with her sisters, and they would read tea leaves. They left school at like 12 or 14 and they would fall asleep and speak in tongues, they would see the dead. They would predict the future as well. They predicted some pretty big things that happened in my family, through reading tea leaves and things like that. But my grandma, she didn’t really want to be a part of it, even though she had these gifts. So she never really taught me how to use them or control them. And that’s why it was quite scary as a teenager, having these gifts and not really knowing what to do with them or how to work with them.

Johnny Burke: You mentioned something about protecting yourself. Every medium or intuitive- anybody that channels anything, really stresses you have to do almost like a protection spell to only allow the light to come in and, there are apparently some beings that are not so nice, which we don’t talk about them too much at any time, so

Lucy Brand: It was one of the first things I learned when I was studying shamanism and it was a game-changer for me as an empath. So as soon as I started putting, I call them protection bubbles up around me,I wasn’t taking on other people’s emotions or their projections onto me. As a highly sensitive empath, that was a game-changer anyway, for me to live my life. But then just taking that and using that, because it’s the same if you are speaking to people in the spirit world as well, so I’d highly recommend it If you’re going to work, you know, or like, anything in your human life, putting a protection bubble around you.

Johnny Burke: We’re going to have to get those explicit instructions, by the end of the show- that’s great advice. Now for the past lives, how did you get involved with that, how did you learn about past lives you obviously work with them with your clients, right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, definitely, it’s just one of those things I just knew. I’ve just always known that this isn’t the only reality. I think it really ramped up a year after I got married, I had a vision, a really strong one of me and my husband in Victoria and England time. But we were both men and I was married to someone else, and he was married to someone else., and it was so strong. It was so visual. We were in this gentleman’s club. It was the only place that we could be together, being gay was illegal in England at that time. Then after that they just came through very thick and fast, because I know, and I feel my husband and I have had a lot of previous lifetimes together, but this is actually the first one we could actually be together because the other ones we couldn’t because of class systems -that one in ancient Egypt, we couldn’t, because I was kind of a noble lady, if you like, and he was a servant. Then we had another one in the states, in the US where he was the woman in that one and I was the man and I lost him in childbirth. Then with other healers, if I’m being worked on, then my past lives come up all the time. I’ve had some really funny ones.

But then for clients, I just tune in, like when they come to me with a challenge they’re struggling with in this lifetime. I’ll just check if is this a past lifetime thing? And then my guides will be like,” yes” and then they’ll normally show me what’s going on and I’ll be like, ‘all right okay. It kind of links into karma as well. My understanding is that the same souls circle each other. So that Victorian past lifetime, I mentioned, my wife in that lifetime is my mom in this lifetime. so the same yeah, so the same souls circle each other all the time. So that means stuff that perhaps you didn’t work out in a previous lifetime, you then have the opportunity to work out in this lifetime. But also it means perhaps if you had a sticky situation in another lifetime, once you heal that from that other past lifetime, it completely frees up your relationship or the situation in your current lifetime.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that as well from several people. What you just mentioned about how souls circle each other; is that related to the soul group or the soul family?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. Yeah. Like you have a soul group and a soul family. My feeling on this is that once you. Worked out your karma or you’ve completed, then different souls are going to come in. So your soul family is going to be forever changing. The whole goal is to evolve.

Johnny Burke: That’s the first time I’ve heard of the concept of the soul family evolving and changing. So one of the things I’d want to know about, the past life in Egypt. About how long ago was that?

Lucy Brand: Oh, I don’t know. Like it was a long time ago. I’ve had two, actually. I had one where I was a horrible, kind of religious man who was very high up with a Pharaoh of some kind. It was that time pyramids being built and stuff. And I was not a nice person in that one. I had to do a lot of healing on that. Sort of forgiveness. The one with my, husband, that was a bit more modern. I would’ve probably said, I don’t know, like white robes and I’m wearing gold. maybe 16th century?

Johnny Burke: That could be a thousand years ago, but do you get the idea that maybe some of these lives were before recorded history?

Lucy Brand: I did have one that I know of that was a bit difficult to decipher because I think it was before Mayan times. It was some kind of channel. I was a human, almost like goddess-like channel to other realms. you might have heard of the Atlanteans that was in South America. I remember finding it really difficult to describe because the stuff I was seeing and sensing it wasn’t from this world, but I was on planet earth. But that was before records began, our current records kind of thing.

Johnny Burke: very interesting. One last thing I wanted to ask you about the Egyptian lifetime, the earlier one. We see Egyptian art from thousands and thousands of years ago, illustrating these half human- half-animal beings. Was that superstition or worship? To the best of your knowledge, did those beings actually exist?

Lucy Brand: They did. They did exist because yeah, they would be like, an interpretation. For me, the Arcturians exist -that council exists. So I could create art of that. And that’s true. And I think it’s the same with that.

Johnny Burke: Did you actually see these things, or do you remember or did you sense it?

Lucy Brand: No, I didn’t see them then. The Mayon one or the ancient Egypt one.?

Johnny Burke: Ancient Egypt.

Lucy Brand: Yeah, I didn’t see them then there, wasn’t my time there. They were kind of already there.

Johnny Burke: So in other words that probably happened thousands, maybe 20,000 years ago or something of that nature?

Lucy Brand: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Many people that’ve been on the show apparently recall lives from Atlantis or even Lemuria, which is supposed to be even older. When you work with your clients, past life memories just come up and you communicate with your guides, and you can tell if their issue is related to a past life. You can see that pretty easily?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, like they’ll just show me. And normally it’s because the challenge that my client has it’s normally, because they’ve got karma with someone else. So they’ll show me the past life with that person and what’s happened. And then usually I’ll say,” this is what’s going on.” They’ll be like,” how did you know that?” like, I’ll get stuff about this lifetime, and I’ll ask them a question and they’ll be like,” how do you know that?’ because it’s all connected. It’s all connected especially if you’re in the same soul family.

Johnny Burke: Now regarding the spirit guides, it seems there’s like an intersection of sorts between angels and spirit guides. Then our higher selves, which I could never really quite figure out. Are they the same thing? What would be the best explanation of that for the layman?

Lucy Brand: My understanding is that you have sourced the divine, you have angels, then you have galactic beings. Then you kind of have like fairies and nature spirits. That’s why I was laughing as they’ve just turned up now, not wanting to be left out. But they’re quite earthbound really. The higher self, I believe and think that is actually part of you. So sharing one of the tricks of the trade here. Like I have conversations with other people’s higher selves sometimes to find out what’s really going on. So if someone’s acting out, I’d go and talk to their higher self and I’d be like,” Hey, what’s really going on? why are you really feeling sad?” the thing is with us humans is that we will never say what’s actually going on, especially if we’re hurting or in pain. So if you want a direct answer, you go to the higher self of someone. When I start doing stuff like this, I always ask, “is it divine and advisable?” and I’ll get a yes, in which case I can proceed. Or I’ll get a no. I’ve rarely got a no, and when I get a no, it’s like a lockdown.

If I have a client and I’m doing healing work on their body, I can see every layer of their body in terms of the energetic imprints and things like that. Sometimes if the client’s not ready to know information, that part’s not ready to be healed yet they’ll block it off. So I can’t see it because they’re very intelligent

Johnny Burke: Wow.

Lucy Brand: So, I always want to stay in the light, you know? I want to make sure that what I am doing is of the light and is good work. So that’s why I always ask if it’s divine and advisable. So I talk to higher selves all the time, and I think they’re tied more to a person’s spirit, an individual spirit. Whereas I feel like angels aren’t really tied to a human.

Johnny Burke: I would tend to agree with that. It reminds me of what someone told me not too long ago; when we go through an earthly life and reincarnate and go into that space in between incarnations and come back, a portion of our, maybe it is the higher self? stays home while our human self is down here. Does that make sense?

Lucy Brand: Yeah. That does make sense, but I think it’s one of those things where it’s all within.

Johnny Burke: What you’re saying about the information is given to you only if it’s helpful in that situation. If they’re not ready for it, you’re not going to hear about it, right?

Lucy Brand: Yeah, definitely because I don’t want to know either. I have to be responsible on my end. So, and sometimes I’ll do a little muscle test under my desk and be like, is this client ready to know this stuff? And it might come back a yes or it might come back a no. So then I decide what I share. That’s another reason why I stayed away from- I can do mediumship and I have done it with some clients, because I feel like it’s helped them to hear from a loved one on the other side. But at the same time, when you do that, you become like a lighthouse and they all come and it’s just like”, no! get in the queue, get in the queue.”

Johnny Burke: I’m glad that you brought that up. One of my sister’s friends was sitting for a medium couple of years ago. And this was after our mom had passed. I believe my sister’s friend name is Stephanie. The medium was giving her a reading and all of a sudden, the medium stops, and she said,” who’s Nancy?” my sister’s friend said, “that’s my friend”. And she says, “are you going to visit her?”, which she was,” ” this woman is literally like jumping up and down waving.” And we think it was our mom. Does that sound plausible?

Lucy Brand: Totally. That happens all the time. Like, you can get people that other spirits that hijack as well, and you’re like, “get away, like this is their moment to shine. !”

Johnny Burke: Incredible!

Lucy Brand: yeah.

Johnny Burke: That’s definitely good to know. You’ve apparently spoken to God. Was it God or Jesus, or is it since we’re all one anyway? Tell us about that. How’d that happen?

Lucy Brand: All of them.

Johnny Burke: All of them?

Lucy Brand: yeah, so some people say the word, God, I prefer the word divine, because I think it’s not as charged sometimes for people, but I feel that it’s just an energy. It’s an energy. Like angels are an energy they can take form if they choose to. There’s been a few times, one of the most powerful ones was when I went to see a healer because I was really struggling – I experienced a traumatic burglary in my twenties and I was really struggling to move past it.

I went to see this healer and she was another one that said, “you’re a healer”, and I was like,” I don’t want to be”. While she was healing me and it was amazing because what other healing modalities had never been able to do- I’d got memory loss from that event, she managed to bring that memory forward. I could then know what actually happened that night, I could clear it from my system and let it go. So she did that with a violet flame, and she moved it out of my body. While she was doing that, Source spoke to me and said “Lucy, if you want to, in this lifetime, your mission is to show women how to give love, receive love, be love, and be loved. I was just like,” whoa. okay.!” and then like afterward I was pretty shell-shocked. I just remember going to the beach afterward, trying to process, ‘well I have to do this now.’ I can’t like not do it. ‘

When I’m in a healing session that’s focused on me, I go into a very deep meditative state, really deep states where I can access a lot of stuff. And I spoke to God again and I was just trying to find out whether the burglary was my fault and they said,” no, it was not your fault. You were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it wasn’t supposed to happen.” And that was hugely releasing for me because I think sometimes. With these things, we can blame ourselves and we can really beat ourselves up about it. Whereas to just hear that I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time was very healing. Every time I’m in their presence, it’s the best feeling. It’s like love and bliss and joy and peace, all of that wrapped up in one. It’s amazing.

Johnny Burke: And I’ve been told that, by many people that some of these visits to energy healers are pretty incredible. I had one guest speaker a while back that said he basically felt like he met Jesus through a healer – an energy healer. I thought that was pretty incredible. as was, this episode. One last question; can you give us, a brief synopsis of the protective bubble mentioned?

Lucy Brand: Sure of course. Like I said before, everything’s within us. So I tend to connect to whoever I want. So I’ll connect with Archangel Michael, and I imagine the energy of Archangel Michael, which is actually, one of the most protective of angels. I imagine this bubble coming out from my torso in front of me, above me, below me, and behind me. And then I say something like “only love and light can enter and only love and light can leave. And so it is. Thank you divine within me”. And that’s it. I sometimes I like sometimes it might be a bit longer like, ” please only allow in blessings and joy and peace and the same out as well” because it’s not going to be a barrier. It’s going to be a flow of energy. So the same way, I only want to receive love and light. I only want to give love and light as well in case, someone challenges you a little bit or something you want to respond and not react.

Johnny Burke: Very good advice. I doubt I could top that, so I think we should end there. Lucy, thanks so much for joining us today. How can our listeners learn more about you?

Lucy Brand: Thank you so much for having me I’ve loved it. yeah, you can find me atwww.lucy-brand.com. I am on Instagram as well @energeticessencehealing. I’d love to hear from you.

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