psychotherapy

#69 Xandra Hawes: Psychotherapy and Mediumship

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus, I’m, Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Xandra Hawes. She is a psychotherapist, spiritual teacher, and energy healer. She helps others heal through learning about past lives, family contracts in this life, and increasing their ability to see themselves and others as spirits. Today, we will be talking about bridging the gap between psychology and spirituality. Xandra, welcome to the program. 
 
 
 

Johnny Burke: So, bridging the gap between psychology and spirituality; pretty ambitious. How did you find yourself on this path? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I’ve always considered myself a Weaver. I don’t know if you’re the same way, but I have so much curiosity all the time around like, wow, here’s an overlap here. here’s something that kind of matches over here. So, when I was. Studying in college. I was really into social work and social systems and learning about the mind and a lot of those things, but I was taking Buddhism and holistic health classes, which led me into my first master’s degree, which was the intersection between Eastern and Western medicine. And I was like, what? There’s so much here. Between this intersection with, with then, pushed me to actually go get another master’s degree. You’ll probably tell through this. I’m pretty nerdy. It’s going to be a lot, afterward.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Nerdy is good 

Xandra Hawes: Thank you. Good. yeah, then I ended up really looking like, okay, how do I understand the mind and mental and Eastern medicine has such a different perspective on mental health and health in general. And So I found a contemplative psychotherapy program, which looks at psychology from a Buddhist perspective. And so that really brought me into spirituality. I was struggling with spirituality far earlier on in life, due to, a lot of things around being a really intense, kind of sensitive empath, which I can go into later, but I sort of ended up taking more of the intellectualized educational route to really understand the intersection. And now I really help people in all of those different realms. Again, being the Weaver. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: it is about intersections, isn’t it? Because, when I read about bridging the gap between psychology and spirituality, it reminds me of what some of the consciousness scientists. people that go into astral travel and out-of-body experiences and so on, are trying to bridge the gap between science and spirituality. So they’re trying to find that intersection where there’s commonalities. And you also made a good point about struggling with spirituality, which I think a lot of people do. Don’t you think people struggle with the definition when someone says, “are you spiritual?” a lot of people don’t know how to answer that, do they? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah, I think you’re really right on that front. Spirituality, in terms for me, and I’d love to hear your definition on this too, spirituality is a belief or, kind of a feeling that we get when we’re tuning into like the deeper layers of ourselves, which a lot of people think as soul,or spiritual.It’s like tapping into your true kind of essence, where we come from, which is what science and spirituality really cool new research on consciousness,and where does it come from? And all these really brilliant things. I love it. Spirituality can be a really hard definition for a lot of people, but for me, it’s like tapping into that deeper essence kind of well, that spacious awareness, kind of permission energy in a way, if that makes sense.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: it does actually. and that’s a pretty good explanation, so I’m not going to try and compete with it, but it, does bring up that question of religion versus spirituality. And I think you’re hearing more and more people. I admit” I’m more spiritual than religious.” I think it’s even a checkbox on like dating apps, I’ve seen that. And you are right because the recent discoveries in the last century of consciousness, and now consciousness science, a lot of that is redefining a lot of the things the traditional scientists were obviously wrong about. So we’ve learned a lot collectively in the past century, where did we come from and why are we here?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Absolutely. I think that’s why so many people are becoming more fascinated with past lives. I think it was Einstein that, or maybe it wasn’t Einstein. I can’t remember in this moment, but if energy is never created or destroyed, where does it go? Where’s okay, good. My brain is running a little bit,  
 
 

Johnny Burke: What’s very interesting,I grew up in New Jersey, in between Trenton and Princeton. And I remember hearing a story because Einstein, I believe he lived on Mercer Street, which is right near the university. And there’s a story, we all know he was brilliant, but at the same time, he had struggles counting change. I’ll never forget that, but you’re right. He did say that energy cannot be destroyed, pretty sure. And so we, are energy and what you said about past lives is very true. And I never get tired of hearing this. I had someone come on recently and, one of the things that, she did in her sessions, she would go into. 
 
 

as space, whether it’s Samadhi or a deep meditative state where she could view her past lives. And one of the questions I always ask is, “do you recognize people in those sessions that are present in your current life?” And almost every one of them said, “yes, my mother was this, this person was my boyfriend. And recently this woman, her name’s Jeannie Sullivan, she remembers someone in this life that killed her in a past life. I thought so what does that feel like? What is this guy like??  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Oh man.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: “Oh, he’s kind of mild-mannered, if you didn’t know anything about his practices, you’d think he was a really good guy” and I thought that’s just mind-blowing. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I think so. I think what I really love is that there’s a lot of different practitioners that get to past lives in different ways. I still do past life readings for other people. There’s something that’s really exciting for me about helping people get there on their own, just because there’s something so exciting when you actually get to look for yourself. I think it can be really cool to find a practitioner to bring you into the spaces, or to tell you about them.A lot of the readings that I used to do were telling people about them and people would just have these really big moments because it felt so true to them. It was almost like a click in, like a Tetris moment of like,” oh my gosh, this makes sense now.”  
 
 

 I feel like I can be a little bit different than some practitioners because I’m wanting to help people learn how to do it, but in a way where you actually get to have play and enjoyment and excitement because there can be some really heavy things, right? Like you’re saying this person killed or did this or did these like kind of awful things and or even some exciting things. And so a lot of what. I try to do is help people reclaim that information on their own so that they don’t feel like they’re dependent on other people. I had so many past life readings before I actually started discovering them on my own. So I know a lot of people start off there, but it’s so fun when you help people reclaim that ability because I believe intuition is actually accessible for everyone.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Speaking of past lives, do you want to be known more as a spiritual teacher or a medium or does it not really? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: That’s a really good question.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Should we just say spiritual teacher for now?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I think a lot of times I say I’m a psychotherapist and a psychic medium. And so that somehow does equate for some people as a spiritual sort of teacher. It’s a really big net, right?  
 
 

Johnny Burke: An interesting one though.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: yes.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: You are the first person who I’ve known that brands themselves as a psychotherapist and a medium. And I think with the current medium explosion, which I’m sure you’ve heard about before, I think we’re going to see more and more of that. Speaking of your intuitive gifts, did you discover them early on when you were a child that or did it happen later on? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah. I think along with the medium explosion, I’m sure you’ve seen this too. There’s this big, kind of explosion of people identifying as empaths. You have folks that are very sensitive people, and then you have folks that are empathic, intuitive, and psychic, and they go all along if you were to imagine like a flat line. Sort of thing. And so a lot of folks that identify as being empathic are actually on the same spectrum as being intuitive and psychic. But a lot of times empathy has to do with feeling so much, but if you can learn your own boundaries, you can actually learn how to take that into the intuitive and psychic realms. And so that was my story. There was a lot about being a really highly sensitive person, really walking into rooms and feeling overwhelmed all the time. As a kid, I would apologize to people. I remember being in like, third or fourth grade? And if there was a math test and everyone did bad, oh, it was a hard day. I just could feel everyone’s sadness or anger or frustration. And as a kid, I was like, “why am I so overwhelmed all the time and my mom was always like,” why are you so sensitive?” like, can’t you just kind of shut it off, right. you can’t really shut it off. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: You can’t. I know that from experience, you can’t shut it off. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Right. So for me, there was a lot of that piece. And then there was a really scary experience, which I’m so grateful for now. when I was 15. I think it was like two in the morning or something. I was, again, a nerd- loved reading. I’m sitting there reading a book and I set it down on my bed and looked around my room. And all of a sudden, the book on my bed just started vibrating and I just stared at my bed, and I was like, oh, okay, books don’t move on their own. Right? I’m like”, oh, the phone must have been under the book.” Something like that. I pick up the book, there is no phone underneath it. And I look over at my dresser, and my phone is sitting there and all of a sudden, the book in my hands, almost like a Harry Potter movie, the pages just start moving and I’m like, “oh God, what is happening?” and then my eyes closed and I slumped back against my bed, and I lost all control of my body.  A spirit is how I call it now, actually invaded my space. She was talking to me through the system, in my mind, and I had no control over my body, and I was just yelling, I didn’t really know, but I just kept saying, I’m not ready over and over and over. And then eventually she left.  
 
 

I went to my mom the next day, and thankfully she believes in that kind of stuff. So we went to a psychic medium to figure out what happened and what to do about it. So, I was terrified at the moment, but I was like, this is rude. I really don’t want to have this experience. I need to really like power up my boundaries here. So that was the catalyst for this.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Right. it seems you are almost hypersensitive, which I think many of us are beginning to learn that, those people are empaths . So when you did go to the medium, what did they tell you? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah. She basically said” you have a ghost in your house. her name is Emily.”
I grew up in Farmington, Minnesota, so tons and tons of just fields and lots of farms and folks that have been there for a long time. And so I was like,’ is this an indigenous person? So she actually ended up talking about this woman, her son had actually died in a farming accident, and she felt at fault. She didn’t feel like she got to leave. So when she died, she actually stayed with the land. Because I was so sensitive, she knew that I could feel her and sense her. So she started hanging out around me, like a moth to a moon sort of thing. She said she doesn’t want to cross over. So you can put down boundaries in your house. So I spent the next couple of years getting really annoyed with her. I got better boundaries, but she would turn off the radio. We couldn’t listen to anything but the Beatles in my room, I would try to play something and the whole radio would get screwed up. She turned the TV on and off if she didn’t like something that we were watching. If she was really mad, she’d slam my bedroom door. It was kind of aggressive. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: We actually had to have someone remove her because it was just too much overall. But a lot of the land that my house is on, I learned there was a lot of trauma around indigenous people and a lot of war and things. So there’s also a lot of spirits that are in a lot of pain and I’ve done a lot of crossing over and helping and things like that now that I knew what was happening, but  
 
 

Johnny Burke: My first suspicion, when you first started talking about the spirit was, it’s an earthbound ghost and they did not cross over. And eventually, someone had to help them cross over and I’ve also been told, that space, it’s not a desirable place to be. The work you do with past lives, you also work with family contracts, which I believe are the same thing as soul agreements? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah, a lot of people have different definitions of it. Yes. I would say family agreements, soul agreements, pretty similar. Sometimes people just have new people in their lives. Sometimes we travel with the same sort of soul families, but some people in our lives are pretty new. You’ll have people in your family where you feel really close to one. And then you’re like,” I don’t know why, I connect with this one person, but not with the other”. You might have agreements with both of them, but some of them might not be in your soul family where you really try to be in each other’s life through multiple lifetimes. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Right.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: that space I believe is referred to as the life between lives space that Dr. Michael Newton wrote about in his books. How did you happen upon that? And how did you learn to incorporate that into your work? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: It’s interesting because a lot of my experience on the other side is so visual. It’s so beautiful. It’s almost hard to describe it, because it feels like, an ache, like homesickness, actually, I think of us being here is learning in a school. A lot of people go through life, kind of with this feeling like they’re missing something, or they’re searching for something. And sometimes I think it’s the soul remembering where it comes from, and kind of feeling this space of getting ready and wanting to go back to the other side, because it has such a different frequency than earth. 
 
 

Earth is beautiful, but it’s very heavy here. So. When I think about the life between lives, and the space that we go back to, there’s a place that I always go back to on the other side called the cathedral of souls. It’s this huge, beautiful, energetic space building where people get together to connect, but I’ve seen souls on the other side, really doing a lot of healing work. A lot of folks after their life, they go back, and they heal, and everyone has their own council. So they have people that they sit with where you look over the life, you have your council that helps you figure out the planning, based off of the karma based about what you learned, how long do you want to be here? Some souls take a ton of time to stay on the other side and heal and be in a frequency that’s really supportive on a soul level. And some people, they just hit it hard. Like the people that just go to the gym every day. I’ve never been a person that goes to the gym every day. There’s the lifer souls that are like, “all right, next life!” “All right, let’s do it.” And they end up working through a lot of karma and doing things faster. And some people don’t pick Earth. The different places to go to. Earth is considered one of the hardest places to go to, actually, I don’t know if you’ve heard people say that before, but earth is considered difficult. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Yes, I definitely have heard people talk about that. One instance that stands out is when someone told me that when they’ve seen lives in that in-between space, some people who have maybe had a rough time are encouraged to maybe reincarnate on another planet or another star system, which might be more conducive to healing. After experiencing the last four years or so. I don’t think that many people given that chance would say, do I want to go back there? Let me go somewhere where it’s a little bit more pleasant, where there’s supermodels and rivers of bourbon and rivers IPA Ale, and rock music- (fill in all your different desires and vices.) But yeah, I’ve heard that, quite a bit. 
 
 

So when you see buildings, you’re obviously a clairvoyant because you see things. When you see structures beyond the veil, on the other side, in the in-between space, does it compare to anything that we have here on earth? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: There’s some texture to the other side that does not exist here.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard. It’s very hard to describe. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: it’s this etheric texture where there’s so much depth in a millimeter. It’s so fascinating. It’s like the fabric of the universe, it’s almost like a technicolor veil in a way. On the other side, you can really create with your mind. There is so much telepathic ability a lot of communication is really telepathic. It’s much more efficient overall. It’s interesting because of how people experienced the cathedral of souls, everyone sees it differently depending on how they feel, depending on what they’re looking for. Depending on kind of how you’ve grown up, everything is filtered through the lens here. Even if you’re doing psychic work, getting into neutrality before you do readings is really important because you’re still going to take your filters with you when you’re looking at things. 
 
 

So when I look at it, it changes almost like a Mirage in light. It’s this beautiful, huge building. You walk in and you could say,” I’m wanting to find the Akashic records “and all of a sudden there’s a hallway that appears, and it leads you right down. And you feel in your soul in the same way when you’re driving to your favorite restaurant, you’re like, “oh yeah, I know the way, this feels good, I know it like the back of my hand.” There’s this deep knowing in yourself when you’re there. And it changes. So I hope that that makes sense in some way, and I don’t know what other people have said, but yet it’s very hard describe. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: It’s actually similar to what I’ve heard before because they always stress, you’re not going to really understand it fully with our linear thinking. I’m trying to imagine. sounds incredible, obviously. It seems to me that you’re pretty well acquainted with the in-between space, in understanding the complete birth life death, reincarnation circle. 
 
 

In your sessions, your work, have you seen instances of pre-birth planning, planning, the next incarnation? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: So I’ve done that work myself with a lot of different things. I’ve gone back and talked to my counsel and been like, ” what was I looking for here? Help me understand the people that I brought into my life.” it is something that I teach to my advanced students. A lot of times when I’m doing psychic medium meetings I talk with their counsel about things. So if we were doing a psychic, medium reading and you were looking at past lives, I would have my eyes closed the whole time and I’d be looking at the different past lives, and I would actually have your counsel come in and we would talk about, why this life? Or what were you planning here? What was the goal here? I have something that I call a reading screen, and it’s what I help people develop.  
 
 

A reading screen is a psychic screen that you really move a lot of your projections or normal thought patterns. You move all that off so that you can see really clearly. Clairvoyance just means clear seeing. Allows you to see more clearly. What I do is I talk to people’s council basically through this sort of screen, and I teach people how to do that. And so once you advance your reading screen, you can really read into a lot of information. So a lot of times I will take my students once they learn a lot of the grounding tools that I teach because I don’t believe you can leave the body without really rooting into it first. 
 
 

As a mental health counselor, a lot of people do these really beautiful, big spiritual work, but they can’t ground it in the body. So when I teach people how to access these things, we always start with grounding into the body. If you could imagine a tree, we start with the root system you ground in, and then you work your way up to the trunk, into the branches, where you’re actually reaching out sort of out of the crown and connecting in with these bigger things. So that’s typically how I work with it and actually how I teach people how to do it as well. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: There seems to be some very interesting parallels between what you do, which I believe is a mediumship reading, but it’s also somewhat like a past life regression session. There’s probably more of an intersection with those two things, than some of us may realize. How would a mediumship reading that enables you to speak to, let’s say my council of elders, as opposed to me going to, a past life regression therapist? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah. Great question. In my experience, I’m trained in past life regression as well, from a hypnotherapy standpoint. And so when I was doing those in person for people, you’d have them lay down with a big blanket, and you would walk people through using hypnotherapy to really help them access that life. So they’d be visualizing it and they speak to it out loud. So you kind of walk people through to help them understand their name, what they were doing then. The past life regression work that I actually learned can also be very specific. If someone wanted to learn more about a gift they had in a previous life, but they wanted to bring it back into this one, we’d actually go into a life potentially where they had that gift, so that they actually can kind of witness and reclaim that gift in. For me, using hypnotherapy to put people into a different brainwave system where the ego is not trying to make too much sense of things, and they can actually pull their sort of soul bank memory back in and access that. 
 
 

A psychic medium reading is typically when I’m sitting with someone, and they’re not regressing back through hypnotherapy, they’re sitting across from me and I’m accessing that information. It’s a pretty big soul reading; when I’m doing those readings with people, it gives them what I call a soul hello. A lot of times when I’m running a really high frequency and I’m going into that life, I have my eyes closed and sometimes I’ll open my eyes and people are crying. They are like, Oh, my gosh, this makes so much sense.”  
 
 

There are so many stories. Sometimes I’ll do these psychic reading events, and I’ll do 50 readings over three days. It’s a lot of energy, a lot of readings, and people love past life readings, and some of the past lives are really big. And I have no idea, right? I’ve never met this person and I’m just like, “here’s what it is,” and I’m talking to your counsel, and this is why it makes sense. And I open my eyes and they’re tearing up, and they’re like, “wow, this is huge, this makes so much sense why I’ve struggled with this my whole life, because I came in with it. I did this in my previous life. This makes sense. ” So it brings a lot of meaning to people.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It sounds like it’s a combination of the best of two worlds, or should I say the best of two modalities. But it’s really more about what that person, wants to accomplish in the session. From there, you just have all your toolboxes open, so to speak and the session will take on a life of its own. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: It does. Usually, my sessions are about an hour long. Some people will say, I want to look at these particular questions. I want to look at this past life piece. I teach my students how to access past lives for other people. Accessing past lives doesn’t have to be that hard. The reason that it’s really hard for a lot of people is our ego gets in the way and immediately goes in and tries to make sense of things. Or it tries to say, oh, you’re wrong. This is where psychology and spirituality comes in. 
 
 

So many of us grow up with programming, and if people start opening up their intuition, the biggest thing that I hear from people is “what if I see something and I’m wrong?” ” or what if I’m crazy? that’s people in our lives that have patterned us into not being able to trust our authentic knowing .That deep inner knowing. I love science in so many ways, but it also really takes the play out of knowing things and just knowing things out of our deep knowing, rather than having to prove it. There are some things we’ll never be able to prove. Hence why they call it the deep mystery.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: My experience is that when you talk to Mediums, people come to them to reach out to a relative that’s passed or people that do past life regression, go there for often a simple reason; they want to know “who was I in a past life ,”or in a more traditional sense,” I want to discover what is the root of my anxiety or depression”. Sometimes the therapist will find it in this life, sometimes it will go back to a past life. Is that your experience as well? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I have a psychotherapy practice and a psychic medium practice, and some people find me through the psychotherapy route. So their belief in the psychic realm, isn’t that strong, but they want a holistic sort of approach. Sometimes I, when I’m sitting across from someone, and I’m like wow, this is a big thing that they’re healing. This has gone through a couple of lifetimes, or there’s past life trauma around it. It really depends on the person’s whether I can say it, or whether I can kind of allude to it in some ways. And then I have some folks that come in and are like,” can we talk about how far this goes back? Right. And I can sort of bring that in.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Good point.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah, right? and that’s the thing too. I can’t even tell you how many psychic medium reading events I’ve gone to, where someone sits down in front of me and they’re crying, because a psychic medium told them something, but they don’t have the training to be trauma-informed. So if they see something really traumatic, some. mediums believe in what they call thorn medicine. I’m just going to throw out there what I see or what I said. But they don’t allow the nervous system to really take it in. And so I cannot tell you how many people I’ve had to reframe things or ground their nervous system. 
 
 

So being a psychic medium, but having a trauma-informed background around mental health or helping people take the information in, so it’s palatable feels really important because I’ve also seen some mediums that are really working with their own power and their own awareness and sharing it. I’m the medium that wants this to be accessible for everyone. I want everyone to be able to reclaim this, rather than it being this thing put on a pedestal that only certain people have. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Well, I think the mental health piece, as you just mentioned is very important. So you’re combining mediumistic skills, but you’re reframing it in a certain way. Taking precautions to make sure that person isn’t completely traumatized by the information you’re about to relay. I think we’re going to see more and more of this. It’s a more complete approach. One more question about past lives I promise this is the last one.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Yeah, absolutely. I love that you love talking about past lives, bring it on!  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It’s incredible. So in your work or your experience when you view a past life, have you recognized anyone that’s actually in your current life?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Oh, so many. so many. Oh, So many yeah, 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Can you tell us about one or two of them?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I have been blessed. I think there’s a huge reason. I think there are some folks that access abilities really, really early on in life, and don’t have the parental support or a structure around them. There’s so many mediums that can have medium information about other people, but they don’t have it about themselves. I think Sylvia brown talks about going through like abusive marriages. She could easily see what other people needed but didn’t have that information for herself. 
 
 

So my mother, I cannot even tell you how many lives we’ve had. We’ve been men in a lot of lives, which is why this life has been funny. Me choosing to be a woman and being her daughter. We go back so far in terms of lives, and I really picked her. How many parents, if your kid comes up to you and is like” a spirit invaded my body”, how many parents are the next day calling up a psychic medium , most people would be hauling kids off to a psychotherapist and being like, “okay, my kid is kind of like they’re from the sixth sense, they had a mental breakdown.” like we got some issues here. Right?  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It’s pretty cool, that you both have that awareness. I would think that’s very, very rare. Although mediumistic or intuitive abilities are often passed down through the bloodline though, aren’t  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: My mother is incredibly psychic. She’s very intuitive, and my dad’s a Pisces and usually folks with some Pisces energy have that level of depth that they think about things in a way, and they don’t always share all of it. And I was like, dad, mom’s pretty intuitive. But you’ve never spoken. Do you have any psychic abilities? He goes, “well, I can see what things are going to look like before they happen”. My mouth just dropped. I was like, are you serious? sometimes I’m curious about how many people have intuitive knowing, or empathy, or all of these gifts, but it hasn’t been safe to share it, especially as a male in our society. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: That’s definitely true. One of the things I’ve taken away from this entire scene is that intuitive abilities are usually a lot more, common than we think. I had a discussion with my brother’s ex-wife, who I’ve always known that she was an intuitive type of person. They had to ghost in one of their older houses. It was obvious. She has dreams where she’ll have dream visitations– she’ll talk to people that have passed, and often they have messages for people that are still amongst the living. what would you call a person that’s able have not only dream visitations, but actually receive messages. 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Is she asking, when she’s in the dream world, does she go to sleep and make the intention, or is it more where she’s just receiving? 
 
 

Johnny Burke: I think she’s more receiving.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I think of mediumship, and I’d be curious what you think about this too- almost like a Wi-Fi station. Mediumship is literally the more able you are to work on the different channels that are available. They’re all different frequencies. And I see them as different colors. So when I change the energy I’m running to a different color, it changes the frequency. And all of a sudden, I can communicate with things that I normally couldn’t. 
 
 

So when you’re talking about her experience of receiving information, I’d probably want to talk to her and kind of get a sense of what Wi-Fi station she’s on. To me, that’s a part of mediumship, but she might be able to access way more stations than that. That just might be her home base station, where can take in and get that information. But I’m sure She, could expand that easily.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: She probably could. She also remembers the past life with my brother, who was married to her, how he went off to sea and never came back, probably about a hundred, 200 years ago or something. I think there’s a fine line in between a highly intuitive person and a medium. The way it was explained to me early on was that mediums are able to contact the dead.  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: Most people that I know that grew up as mediums didn’t grow up really confident and excited about it. Most of the time, it feels like a nuisance of this space that I get information without my permission. In some ways, it doesn’t feel safe for a lot of folks. At least for me, it didn’t feel safe. In terms of mediumship, being able to have what I call your seniority over the information that you’re getting and turning it on and off. It’s almost like a handshake, how do you touch into it? And also how do you move away from it?  
 
 

Johnny Burke: As one of the services that you offer, how does someone discover their own unique energy medicine? And do we have enough time to cover that today? Or should that be part two?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: oh man, maybe there’s a part two to this. I will try to summarize it in a way, but energy medicine is your unique soul essence, and everyone just like your fingerprint, just like, your DNA, everyone has a very unique soulprint. And so when you really get to touch in into your medicine of, oh my gosh, I’m a soul. In this body, you start really learning about the intersection and how to really combine and bring more of your soul into the now, which I think is. On this planet. I’ve maybe you’ve heard people talk about this, but there’s so many planets that are at a way higher frequency than we are because they recognize they are souls . So many people walk around every day, and they don’t realize there is soul. And every morning I look in the mirror and I say, okay, Did you know that you’re a soul? Because it’s really easy to forget. It is so easy; every billboard, every commercial, nothing wants you to know you’re a soul, because there’s so much freedom in that. You get to create, you get to let go. You get to move energy. “No, no, no, you need a cell phone in order to be happy. You know, you need this pair of shoes, this society doesn’t want you to know you’re a soul. So when you learn that you’re like, “oh my gosh, there’s so much freedom here to create and to play and to reclaim. So it’s kind of a revolutionary act to know that you’re a soul actually. 
 
 

So to discover your unique energy medicine, it’s to discover who you actually are, especially when you’re on the other side. Who are you when you’re there? Who have you been throughout these lifetimes? Our society doesn’t want you to know you’re a soul. So that’s why there’s a lot of us here. And a lot of people are waking up to the fact that they are. And that’s why I think there’s a really intense fight right now to keep people asleep.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: I think you were alluding to what a lot of people are describing as the Ascension, a lot of people are waking up, the empathic big bang , medium explosion. I think all these things are related. At least that’s what I’m told. Why do you think that is happening now? 
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I get so excited about the fact that there’s so many theories around, like the indigo children, or I had someone call me out of the blue the other day, and be like,” I’m a star seed and I need help.” You know? So it’s really sweet. People are starting to use these terms of like,” I came in with a really big purpose to shift this planet.” so you have souls that are choosing to come in and to be awake really, really early on. There’s a lot of souls saying our planet needs to shift. So there’s a lot of folks that are coming in right away with this awareness. 
 
 

I was walking through Target and there was a Chakra coloring book and I was like, oh my God, Target is selling Chakra coloring books, energy centers. There’s something that’s happening, where a lot more people are coming in with the desire to shake things up and shift the planet. And so you’re seeing a lot more beings coming in with this in a big way.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: and that’s definitely, a good thing for all of us. Xandra, thanks so much for joining us today. Awesome information, especially on the past lives. how can our listeners find more about you online?  
 
 

Xandra Hawes: I have a podcast that’s soul essence wellness center, and I turn all of the podcast episodes into blogs, which are all at soul essence wellness center.com since I’m really big on people knowing their soul and not having to pay for it. I have a lot of folks that reach out and are like, “Hey, I can’t afford psychotherapy or coaching. And I’m like, please listen to this podcast, read these things. Remember you’re a soul. Don’t forget.