#soulwalkin Archives - Closer To Venus

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Karina Chapman. She is an author, speaker, conscious, connection expert and dating coach. She also has many experiences with past lives. Today we’ll be talking about what we can learn from exploring who we were and how we chose the life we currently have. Karina, welcome to the program.

Karina Chapman: Thanks for having me, John.

Johnny Burke: How does a dating coach get interested in exploring past lives? Or did the past lives exploration come way before that?

Karina Chapman: Well, actually it was through dating that I became interested in past lives, so, which seems really bizarre. But yeah, it was through a dating experience that I had that made me explore what past lives were, how they impact us on this life now, and what we can learn from visiting past lives to gain more knowledge about who we are in this life and why we are attracted to certain things or why we perhaps have certain interests or traits. So yeah, it’s really interesting that it’s all connected.

Johnny Burke: Really, so this happened from a dating experience?

Karina Chapman: It did. Yes.

Karina Chapman: I actually met someone online and when I saw their photo,

I just knew that I knew them. I thought their eyes were familiar to me, but their faces weren’t. But it was like I knew the eyes, so I zoomed right in and I’m like, how is it that I can know this person? But I know for sure I’ve never met them in this lifetime. So that started my curiosity and, and once we met, in person, it was almost like I was looking at the sun, like they seemed to glow so brightly that I almost had to shield my eyes. And I thought, well, this is a really odd thing, like I’ve never had happened before. What’s going on? So that sort of connection with this particular person started my journey in looking into what past lives were and, and what they meant.

Johnny Burke: Now that I think about it, I had an episode a while back where a woman who was a practitioner was walking people through past life regression, and that’s how she met her current boyfriend. Apparently, they discovered they had past lives together, which I thought was pretty interesting to say the very least.

But it doesn’t really shock me because if you’re a dating coach, you’re obviously attuned to relationships, so you’re probably the type of person that’s going to notice that before others because of your experience with relationships. Do you agree?

Karina Chapman: Absolutely. Yes. And as we dated and went along that journey, a couple of months in, I had a waking vision of us in another life. So I thought, oh, maybe that’s why you seemed so familiar. And it was really interesting that I knew exactly where I was, what I looked like. I had brown hair and a green dress on, and I was saying goodbye to my partner at the time in that life, which was my current boyfriend, and he was heading off to war and it was in America in the Civil War Times, which being in Australia, I had no idea what the dates were or anything like that. I’m not a history buff. I looked up online, like when was the Civil War, was what he was wearing, something that, one of the sides was wearing. Could I find that? which actually I could, which shocked the heck out of me. I was like, oh, this is actually something that must have happened because otherwise we wouldn’t have had such a strong connection and I wouldn’t have felt that I’d known him, not his face, but his eyes. So of course, you know, the eyes are the window to the soul. So yeah, so that’s why it was familiar. So I thought, oh, maybe this is my soulmate then, not just that we’ve had past lives together, maybe, you know, this is going to be a long-term connection.

Johnny Burke: Speaking of the Civil War, do you remember, whether he was on the union side or whether he was a Confederate? Did you have any insight into that?

Karina Chapman: I wasn’t sure because I didn’t really know what the sides were, and it wasn’t a regular uniform that I would’ve expected. He had pants on with long boots. He had a white shirt with a crisscross of leather and, a belt sort of thing. So it didn’t really look like a specific uniform. So that’s why I was really curious. So whichever side it was, that wasn’t, you know, decked out in a proper uniform. So you would know probably more than me about which that was.

Johnny Burke: I believe the Yankees wore blue uniforms and the Confederates, I believe it was either gray or like a butterscotch. The reason I bring that up is because someone who I interviewed a while back, after the tape stopped, after the episode was over, actually said, “you know, John, I think you and I go way back.” I said, “what do you mean? he said, “I’m thinking Civil war.” I said,” really? Civil war? great. So which side were we on? “Oh, we were Confederates. “I said, “oh my God, I’m in Florida now.” But he described the uniform, and I believe it wasn’t the gray, it was the butterscotch.

Karina Chapman: Yeah, these were butterscotch pants that this guy had on too, so, so yes. Maybe that’s the side . So, yeah, I just thought, wow, how’s this actually happening? I was just getting out of the car one afternoon, heading for a walk, and suddenly bang, here’s this vision. I knew what his name was, I knew the location. and I knew the date, which I never had one thought about the Civil War at all before. So it was a bit of a surprise to me at that time.

Johnny Burke: So it was a waking vision. It wasn’t past life regression, which maybe you explored after that?

Karina Chapman: Yes, yes. So I ended up being with this person for about six years, and then something happened that was a deal breaker for me. So we split and then I thought, well, so what was that vision about? Why did I see us in this past life together, in this waking vision? And what did it mean? I thought maybe that meant at the time that this was my soulmate, but then surely a soulmate isn’t going to do something to split us apart so violently, it was he was cheating, so I thought, well, maybe I was wrong. Well, how do I get the answers? I feel like I’ve just wasted six years with this person and thinking that it was my soulmate and then this happened, so maybe it wasn’t.

So how do I find out what the point of me spending these six years with this person was? And as I sort of put that out to the universe, I came across this show on TV that I’ve only seen once and I’ve never seen again, and it was called Past Life Investigations. Where one person would be regressed in a hypnotherapy session by, a hypnotherapist, and then it was being recorded and streamed through to an investigator who was writing down all the points, and then they would investigate what the person said. And there were all sorts of people. Different religious beliefs. No beliefs at all. You know, no one really was particularly into past lives. And then the investigator to go investigate to see if they could actually collaborate and say, yes, this was a town that actually existed. Yes, this type of thing did happen.

So I am like, right, that’s what I need to find out. Then I need to do a past life regression and figure out what the connection was and why we met in this lifetime. So then that led me to trying to find a regression therapist here that I could go and see in person. So I just did a little search online and. I came up with this website and I thought, oh, I really like the sound of this girl. So I gave her a call and I said, look, this is what’s happened. I met this guy, had this waking vision, thought that he was my soulmate, but then this happened. Can you take me back to that particular lifetime so I can gain clarity on what this meant for me?

And she was like, yep, sure. I thought, perfect. I’m in. So I went along, and we went back to that lifetime. So that was my first experience, and I would’ve been in my early forties then. And I was a bit skeptical to be honest. First. I mean, I’d never grown up with knowledge about past lives or anything like that. Reincarnation, coming from originally more of a Christian background and then sort of left that area and just felt more spiritual rather than attached to a religion. But I still had never really thought about what a past life was, what it meant, what impact it might have on me. So I went along to this session, and she got me into the, the hypnotherapy sort of thing, and I’m nice and relaxed and she takes me down the stairs and to a hallway where there’s all these doors that she says, each of these doors take you to a past life. Go to whichever one you are drawn to, and then tell me what the door looked like. And I thought, oh, okay, so I described the door, went through it, and then all I could see was blue. So my conscious mind in the back of my head was going, oh, this hasn’t worked. Like, why can’t I only see blue? This doesn’t seem right.

But then when she did further investigation, I was about 12 years old laying in a field looking up at the sky. So that’s why I could only see blue first because I was looking at a blue sky. I thought, oh, fair enough. And so what she did was take me through each significant point of that lifetime. So I didn’t see the specific vision that I saw in my waking vision, but I went through that whole entire life. So first I was 12, then I was 18 at a barn dance. And friends of mine there were teasing me because this guy over there was fancying me, and it was him. And then we jumped to when I was 25 and at 25, I had a three-year-old girl, twin boys that were 11 and the husband was off at war, which was this guy. And it was a really difficult life. We were always hungry, we were really poor, we were dirty, , trying to find enough food for the kids. It was really a difficult life. And then jumped forward again to the next significant point, and I was 40 and I was praying in a church. The reason I was there was because one of my sons had had a farming accident, so I was praying for his health and recovery from that.

And the interesting thing that I felt was, I felt so old, so old. I’m much older than 40 now. And yet I’ve never felt this old in this lifetime. So I thought that was a really interesting point. So then we jumped ahead to the end of my life, and I was 60, which probably at that time was quite old age, and I was lying in a bed in a high neck white gown, and I was hardly a bump in the bed. And I thought, Ooh. I’ve never felt this skinny in this lifetime either. It was hardly anything of me, and I knew the doctor was in another room with my daughter and the regressionist asked me what was wrong with me? And I couldn’t really say, it was like consumption, so probably cancer or something like that at the time that they didn’t have the knowledge to actually diagnose.

So then from that point, I passed from being in that body into spirit form. And in that lifetime, we’d assumed that the husband had died because he never came back. And of course there weren’t great records back then either, so that was the logical assumption. However, when I got into the soul form, I could see that he didn’t die in the war and that when the war was over, he found himself on the East coast, which was really thriving and prosperous and there were lots of opportunities there. So he chose to stay there and abandon his wife and three kids to make a new life for himself. And it wasn’t that I was upset with him or anything like that because in the soul form you’ve got full understanding and, you don’t feel that way, you just understand what it was. But what I really understood was the reason why we had connected again in this lifetime, which was for me to try and help him to learn to stay and face his responsibilities.

And once I sort of found that out, I thought of our relationship and I thought, every time we had an argument, the first thing he would do was threaten to pack his bags and leave. And go back to the other state that he was from, and this was a constant throughout our relationship. So it made me understand that I’d agreed to come back and help him to learn this lesson. And if he could learn this lesson, then maybe we’d still be together. However, when he couldn’t learn this lesson, something had to happen to break our connection so that our paths would then not be joined anymore, and he would go onto whatever it is in his life. And same with mine. So then I really felt at peace with it because I was really angry that I’d spent all of this time thinking I was with this soulmate. This is the one for me. And then, it all got blasted apart. But with understanding, it really made me go, okay, now I see what it is and why I met him and what the point of it was. And the last thing that I really wasn’t expecting when I did a regression session was the feeling of being eternal. Because of course, we don’t feel that in this life.

And when I came out of the session, I was like, what am I worried about with this life? It’s the blink of an eye. You know, all these things that we think are heavy and life threatening or some sort of, you know, massive thing. Really, it’s nothing. We’re worrying about things that really don’t matter and that’s not what our focus is.

It really sparked an interest in me after going to that first session of thinking, wow, like I never thought about past lives before. I wonder where else I’ve been or what else I’ve learned, or what else I can learn from doing it. So then that sort of sparked a journey over many years of going back to discover more things about myself and how that relates to my lifetime now and how I can grow and learn from that to become a better person or to follow the path that I’ve been wanting to follow in soul form. And of course we know why we come down here, but we get down here and we’ve got amnesia and we don’t know. So it helps us to find these sorts of things out so that we can, not so much be a better person, but really follow our soul journey of what we’d intended of the lessons and the experiences that we were wanting to have when we’re down here in the body form.

Johnny Burke: All right, so just to recap, you had a waking vision of this person that you met in this life from the Civil War or whatever period it was from. That was confirmed in the first session, the first past life regression session. Is that true?

Karina Chapman: Yes, yes. Although I didn’t have that specific point in time that I visited, it was definitely the same person in the same lifetime.

Johnny Burke: Right, was that the person that you saw in the Civil War time or was that a different time?

Karina Chapman: No, same person. Yep, absolutely. Same person, same name, in that lifetime his name was Cal yeah, so it was really interesting that I knew the lifetime name from the vision and also in the actual regression session that I went to.

Johnny Burke: So, the names were the same. I’m curious, what is his name in this life?

Karina Chapman: Tyson, so nothing like Cal at all.

Johnny Burke: Now, you also used the phrase or the term soul form. Where did that come from?

Karina Chapman: I feel that we are souls traveling around in these bodies.

So the soul part of us is the eternal side, and the bodies are like a vehicle that we get around in. It’s almost like we are down in this lifetime traveling around in a car, for example. And if you go somewhere in a car from point A to point B, and then you don’t need the car anymore, you’re at your destination. So you get out of the car. So you travel on, but you don’t need the car anymore. And that’s how I think of us with our bodies. We use them while we need them and then when we’re to the point that we don’t need them anymore, we carry on in a different energy form and we leave the body behind because it’s no longer needed, that’s my analogy. Or even like, it’s winter and you’re wearing a big winter coat and then it becomes summer, you don’t need the coat anymore, so you take it off and it’s not part of you anymore, but you were wearing it, but it’s not actually who you are. so our bodies are not who we are. It’s our soul that lives and resides within.

Johnny Burke: Yeah, I’ve heard that quite a few times. Did you go back for more sessions I don’t know whether you went more than once.

Karina Chapman: Oh, absolutely. Many times. Many times. I’m a very curious person and I’m all about connection, so I was really interested to find more information about different past lives, how that maybe impacts me now. Perhaps it explains more about me. So yeah, so I just went back for the fun of it really to see what else I could discover. And to my surprise, it was more than just going back to a human lifetime. There were lots and lots of different experiences that I had on this planet and on others in human form and in other forms. So it really expanded my knowledge on what you could get out of doing a past life and the knowledge that you could gain about your soul journey. It was so interesting. So that’s why I just kept having to go back.

Johnny Burke: I would’ve done the same thing, in your position. When you talk about waking visions, I’ve heard this a few times where it’s almost like a flash of a past life. It’s not something that doesn’t happen in any kind of therapeutic setting, or in a doctor’s office or in the office of a hypnotist. Have you had experiences with dreams where you recognize someone in the dream, but obviously that person is not in your current life?

Karina Chapman: I have had a reoccurring dream experience, but it wasn’t so much recognizing a person, it was recognizing a point in time. So ever since I was a kid, I would have this vision when dreaming this strange dream where I was in Europe somewhere in a country that now doesn’t exist. And I was on the top of a turret in the castle, and our castle was being attacked. So my job was to refill the catapults with rocks and to put out the flaming arrows as they were being launched up at us. And unfortunately, our side lost, and I knew that that would be the end for me. And there were people dying all around me that had been hit by the arrows, et cetera. And so I, in my dream, laid down and

basically pretended to be dead. Then when I was doing that, the winners of the war as such came up onto the turret where I was and were using long swords to stick into each person to make sure they were dead, and they got to me and then I woke up. And I always thought, that’s not really a normal kind of dream that I would have. And it happened quite often. It was a little bit, you know, especially as a kid, it was a bit like, oh, you know, that was a bit of a nightmare. What was that about? But I didn’t really ever think about it being connected to a past life. However, one time I went to a session, and I traveled to this lifetime where I was orphaned as a child at only about three years old, and I was a male, and so I lived on the street and I scavenged for food and as I was a little bit older I was a stable hand. And I would sleep on the straw in the stable and look after horses. And as time went by, I’d worked myself up to being head groomsmen at the castle. And I spent most of this lifetime alone, or with horses or in nature alone. And then at the age of around 33 was when we got attacked.

So as we are going through this lifetime, suddenly I found myself on top of the turret again, and I thought, hang on. I know where I am. Like I know this. I’ve seen this before and it was exactly like my dream. So that’s what made, gave me that understanding that that dream was actually a remnant of a past life that was showing itself through a dream form, that I had no idea.

So it gave me a lot more understanding and that lifetime experiencing that also made me understand things about myself now. Like I love to be in nature by myself, and when I was a kid, I was obsessed with horses. If anyone had a horse, I wanted to be their friend. I was just so obsessed with these horses. So it gave me that understanding of, you know, why nature is important to me and being in nature, and also why I had this affinity with horses. And it also made me realize that possibly from being that young orphan with no one looking after me and me having to find food myself. I find in this lifetime, I really notice whose house has got fruit trees, where there’s a source of food. And of course, I’ve never had to go and take fruit from someone else’s house. But even walking in a path somewhere, oh, there’s a pear tree. Oh, there’s a raspberry tree. I really kind of noticed that, and I always thought, why would I notice that?

But then it gave me the understanding that if I’d experienced that lifetime, then possibly there’s some cell memory there still that makes me notice where a food source is, even though in this lifetime, I don’t need to utilize that ability.

Johnny Burke: About the tower when you first started to describe that, you mentioned it was a place that doesn’t exist anymore.

Karina Chapman: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: How did you know that?

Karina Chapman: I can’t tell you. I just knew that it had been conquered, so it was something different now, like that we would know now. As we know in Europe, there were lots of invasions here and there. Kingdoms would fall, different lines would be made for different countries. So wherever it was, it was somewhere that isn’t called that anymore. So, as I said, I’m not into history at all, so I’ve got no idea. I’m sure if I really looked it up, I could find something, but I couldn’t pinpoint where this actual location was. And of course, there’s so many castles over in Europe. There are so many places that it could have been. So, so in that specific instance, I couldn’t place exactly what this particular country would’ve been called at the time. So, but it was in the time of knights at the round table type thing; swords, flaming arrows, that type of stuff.

Johnny Burke: Middle Ages then.

Karina Chapman: That’s right.

Johnny Burke: That’s what it sounds like. Was it the Middle Ages or possibly even, before the Middle Ages. Very interesting. Now, when we first had a discussion, you mentioned something about soul walk-ins, which I have heard about once before. Is that tied to your past lives experience or is it something completely separate from that?

Karina Chapman: Yeah, no, it’s definitely tied to a past life experience and soon a different session I found myself in cell form. It was in a time when people would be wearing, you know those, square toed, square ended shoes with the buckles on them? And, you know, women had bonnets on and, sort of petty coats and skirts, that type of thing.

So again, I’m not quite sure of the year. However, in this particular area, and it was in Europe again, this particular life that I experienced, there was a lot of doubt around, beliefs and, things that were happening in that time. So my soul had agreed to be what I know as a walk-in. So there was a woman there that wasn’t me, that already had a soul in her, where the soul wanted to leave. And I knew that in this particular area, it needed some help in a certain way. So my soul agreed with her to come down and take over her body. So I was aware that I was in somebody else’s body that I hadn’t lived all the way through in that lifetime, but I could access her memories. so that was a really interesting thing.

Possibly it would be like someone had a bit of a personality change, but they could still access all the memories. So you would think, oh, they’re just a little bit different to what I knew them as, but I don’t really know why. And of course it wouldn’t have been explained in those sorts of terms. So I was aware that I was there for a specific job to do, and I was walking along the street, with a basket with my square toed shoes and my petty coats, et cetera, and my bonnet and the basket was empty.

And as I was walking, I was swinging the basket and I was heading to church. And while I was swinging the basket, I was able to manifest bread into that form, the breaking of the bread that we would do in the church. And I was there for about five years doing the work that I had agreed to do in that area to help lift the vibration of the other souls there. And then when I had finished my task, I left the body. So on the physical realm, it probably looked like maybe I’d dropped dead of an aneurysm, which of course they wouldn’t have known what that was then. But I used that body for the certain length of time that I needed and then I left it.

So that’s what a walk-in is, sort of walks into somebody else’s body, not that that person’s unwilling. Yeah. The soul’s wanting to leave. So for a specific reason a soul can walk into somebody else’s body and do a specific job that’s going to help the people of that community. And then when they’re not needed anymore, then they step back from the body and go back into soul form. So, and I’d never thought about that type of thing before even being a possibility of happening. So that was really interesting to know.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard about that so I’m curious, what happens to the soul life in the resident body when a soul walk-in occurs?

Karina Chapman: Yeah, they just return home to the spirit realm, to, back to the other souls that that they’ve known and lost perhaps in the lifetime that they’re in. And then they decide on what their next journey is, whether they come back down in human form, whether they want to go somewhere else, or maybe they even spend some time in the healing place first, especially if they’ve had a traumatic life. Or they’re really attached to what happened in their lifetime. There’s a healing space that you can go into, which I’ve experienced a couple of times, and it’s just like a pale pink sort of feeling energy space where you know that there’s other souls there, but you don’t interact. You’re just there to have your soul restored, and some don’t need to be there for very long and others need to be there for a lot longer.

Johnny Burke: So what you’re describing sounds a lot like the life between lives space, because you also mentioned the soul walk-in, the soul form assignment sounds like it’s a soul contract, which is an agreement. If you had an agreement in one life to perform a walk-in, that is something that usually takes place in the in-between space.

Karina Chapman: Yeah, it’s quite possible that our souls did choose that, you know, that’s what was going to happen, but I didn’t experience that particular thing. I just experienced going in, knowing that the other soul willingly and wanted to leave the body had had enough of the lifetime because it was quite a hard lifetime at that point. And that that was okay for them to do. It was easier for me to come in, do what I needed because I needed five years. So there was probably no point in me starting off as a child growing up and all of that. And also I wouldn’t have had the awareness because I knew that I was a drop-in or walk-in and that I had a job to do. Whereas normally if we are born here, we don’t remember the things that we’ve decided that we want to do. Yeah. Because if we do, then it would be too easy, wouldn’t it?

Johnny Burke: Right. And you wouldn’t learn anything, or we wouldn’t learn anything. So just to get some clarity here you did not experience the life between lives space, whether it was in a session or not, but you had the same knowing that many of those people do when you explored a certain past life, you knew why you were there in that particular instance.

Karina Chapman: Yeah, I do also when I go and visit specific lives as a human, it takes me all the way through to death and into soul form. And then I do spend some time in the soul form as well, whether it’s in the healing space, whether it’s looking back at the life and reflecting to find out what the learnings are that I can learn from that experience and bring forward into this life. Or maybe it’s even to meet a guide. We all have guides all the time that help us, whether we know it or not. And of course, it helps if we ask for help, but if we’re not aware of it, then that’s a bit difficult. So there’s always souls that are helping us and guiding us through our path to cause different circumstances to help us achieve the learnings that our soul originally set for this particular lifetime. And so you can get wisdom in the in-between as well from experiencing past lives and going into that realm.

Johnny Burke: You mentioned the healing space.

Karina Chapman: Yep.

Johnny Burke: The people I’ve interviewed, they’ve basically told me that the healing space and the between lives space are one and the same. So were you able to explore this in the sessions with the hypnotist or did they not try to basically trigger that experience or make you enter that space?

Karina Chapman: So I only went into the healing space a couple of times. which again, is in the in-between. It’s even in the Bible, they say, there are many rooms to my father’s house. So I feel there’s the healing room, there’s the akashic records, there’s all sorts of, different areas, but they’re all the same house as in the same realm that we’re in, depending on what our soul needs.

I think that different souls go to different places, and even if you believe in different religions while you’re here, then you need to kind of gain that understanding. So if you were Christian for example, and you expected to see Jesus when you passed, then that would be the first experience you had based on your expectations. If you were atheist, then you wouldn’t see Jesus because you didn’t have a belief in that. You would sort of past that sort of thing and go into something else, which might be a beautiful field with rolling hills and incredible flowers that are in colors that we can’t describe and just feel that peace. Or maybe if you were not a nice person, for example, or treated people really badly, then you would probably go to the healing space first because your soul had been affected by your experiences down on earth. So there’s lots of different ways that we can go into all the different rooms of the creator’s house and such, and nothing’s right or wrong or good or bad.

It just depends on what our soul needs in our journey at that time, and, to help us remember that we are energy, soul form, that’s from the creator and part of the creator. And once you get to that knowledge and that realization, it’s just like that feeling of being welcomed home. Others experience their grandparents or people that have been close to them that have passed that will greet them. So there’s no you know, ‘this is just the way that it happens and that’s it. ‘There are so many different things that can happen depending on our beliefs and what our soul needs at that point in time. To be able to reconcile back to the fact that we are an energy form, that we are continuing on and that, there’s no need to worry, the experience that we chose to be in that lifetime, we then understand why we had that life, or why we even had terrible experiences that were difficult to go through.

The opportunities to learn different things that we’d actually set for ourselves that we want to learn. And in fact, when I was young, I used to think, I know I’m here for a reason, but what is that? Why isn’t there just a big blackboard in the sky saying, Karina, you know, this is what you came to do, dot point, dot point, dot point. I would’ve gone, oh. Perfect. That’s what I need. But of course, if I knew all of that, then I wouldn’t go through the difficult times and learning sessions. And I feel like Earth is a school of learning and you can’t do the cheat sheet and have all the answers first. You only really, truly learn by going through different experiences and then analyzing them after what they meant and how you could learn something new from it and how you could grow.

Johnny Burke: It’s interesting how certain things, certain platitudes that we thought were, you know, maybe even cliches. Everything happens for a reason. God puts certain people in your path. After hearing this type of testimony for the past two and a half years, it actually sounds like those things are true.
How many past lives, do you think you’ve had? Do you have any idea?

Karina Chapman: Yes, actually I do.I got my regressionist to find the answer out for me. And then when I was in soul form in the in-between, I was able to answer, which was 613. A lot more than I thought in my waking life. I thought, I feel like I’ve been here a lot, like I’m an old soul. Maybe 150, maybe 200. I never would’ve thought over 600, but that was the answer. So it must be true. And I’ve experienced quite a lot of them, but obviously not that many yet.

Johnny Burke: You’re going to have to go back for the next 20 years.

so were any of those experiences like off earth and different

Karina Chapman: yes, I,

Johnny Burke: Different galaxies?

Karina Chapman: Yes, there was one particular one that I went to. Yeah. It was incredible actually because it was an experience that we’d never had. It was on a different planet where the form that I was in was I suppose like a silvery blue jelly kind of form that I could change form so I could become a flat puddle, for example, on the ground. Or I could become tall and skinny like a tall lamppost and see further. And there was also collective thought, so I could hear in my mind all the others speaking. And in that particular experience, I knew where Earth was, which was over to the left of our planet and however many light years, and at that point it was known as the blue planet, so it was fully water. There was no physical earth, dirt on there. So it was a long time ago, so I can’t tell you what year.

I wanted to go to a different area of this particular planet that I was on so that I could connect better with the creator. So I had to go further away from the collective voice. So the further distance that I got, the quieter it got in my mind, which then allowed me to connect better with the creator without the noise of the other beings that I was similar to at the time. So that was really interesting. And in fact, the therapist said to me- her name’s Catherine she’s like,” I wish that I’d recorded that!” she said,” that was amazing.” She said, “when you said to me, that you could turn into like a tall lamppost. She goes, “did you feel your fingers moving?” And you know, I did. I sort of felt them, on the chair kind of going like this a little bit. She goes, “I swear your fingers got longer. I’m like, No, really? She goes, I swear I wish that I had recorded that. She goes, I was so shocked.” I was like, wow, that would’ve been really interesting.

So we certainly can be in different forms on different planets and have all sorts of different experiences that we carry through in our soul records in the akashic records, but we are just not actually aware of it in this waking life. And that’s why I’m so interested in connection and I’m a conscious connection expert. So it’s consciously connecting with different people for different reasons, for how you can help them move forward on their path or how, you know, they maybe can impact you on your path. And, making it a positive thing so that we can lift the vibration of and the experiences they’re having here.

Johnny Burke: Okay. One more question about your practice. When you are counseling people as a dating coach, do you ever reveal any of these experiences or is that kept separate from your work life?

Karina Chapman: It depends on the view of the person. I work with some people that just think this is all woo woo, so there’s no benefit to sharing that.

So I might use things like reticular activating system, which is a part of your brain that’s like an executive assistant that helps you notice things that are relevant to you. So I would use that type of analogy for people more than saying, you are on the right sort of vibration as the other. If your vibrations aren’t matching, then the connection can fall away. So it depends on who it is that I’m speaking to as to whether I talk about that and even whether they’ve had that experience.

I know one of my clients I’ve worked with in the past has connected with a guy that she also had a waking vision, of him and her in a past life. so then I would share my experience that it is possible to have a long-term connection in that area. As long as both souls learn whatever it is that they’re supposed to be learning from each other, then they can move forward together. But if they don’t, then the connection will be broken. So, yeah, so when it’s relevant, I will talk about it but if it’s not relevant or its way out of left field, then I don’t talk about that sort of thing because it can be a little bit too much for some people.

Johnny Burke: I would think so. But do you get the feeling that we’re going to be hearing a lot more of this in the future?

Karina Chapman: Yeah, I do actually. I really do. And in fact, my background is in hairdressing years ago, and about 20 years ago, I connected with this client and I very, very rarely will change a client to being a friend. Very rarely. And this girl, we got on well and she’s like, “oh, I know this is a bit weird, but you know, I really want to ask you out for a coffee. “And I thought, Hmm, that is a bit weird. I don’t normally do that, but I just thought, you know what, with this person, yeah, I think I will. And her name was Karen. And so years later she said to me, you know, I just really wanted to be your friend. She goes, and we went out for a coffee, and she thought, Oh, this girl’s a bit woo woo and crazy for me. but I still, I just really wanted to be your friend. And I thought, oh, that’s interesting.

And then I happened to go to a past life where I was in Egypt and this Karen was actually my sister in that past life. And I’d married a guy. I was not a very nice person in that life. I was all about money, beauty, and didn’t care about anything else except myself. Basically married a guy because he was rich. Not because I loved him .And the end of that lifetime she was arguing with me because she’d fallen in love with my husband and was horrified by how little I felt for him and how I treated him. So we were sort of on this embankment having a big argument, and she was so angry that she pushed me, and I fell off the embankment and I got impaled upon these two spikes and died, and one went through my chest and the other through my lower back. I understood then why she really wanted to be my friend, because from that lifetime she felt such horror and guilt that, she’d accidentally killed me. even though I didn’t really seem like the actual type of person that she’d perhaps choose as a friend in this life. So then that made perfect sense to me.

Interestingly too, I had a birthmark right in the center of my chest, where the spike would’ve come through, and I’ve often had pain in my lower back right where the other spike would’ve gone. So, so there can be a bit of memory there that comes out in other lives as well.

Johnny Burke: So you have a birthmark where the spike actually ran through you. That is amazing. I think you have many more stories to tell. So there may be a part two to this, to explore some more of your 613- that’s amazing, 613 past lives. To be continued. Karina, thanks for joining us today. How can our listeners find out more about you online?

Karina Chapman: Absolutely, it was a pleasure. So you can look me up on my website, which is karinachapman.com. Anything that you want to say or ask me, I’m always happy to respond. And yeah, it’s all about conscious connection.

#81 Viki Quirk: From Deja Vu To The Akashic Records

August 6, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Akashic Records

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus, I’m Johnny Burke and today’s guest is Vicky Quirk. She is an intuitive coach, breathwork teacher, and near-death experience survivor. Today, we will be talking about how she utilizes the Akashic Records to help people heal their past, embrace the present, and move forward into their future. Vicky. Welcome to the program

Viki Quirk: Thank you so much for having me, Johnny. I’m excited to be here.

Johnny Burke: I think this should be fun. So how did you discover when you had intuitive or what people call psychic gifts

Viki Quirk: I can think back to childhood and having a lot of Deja Vu, that’s kind of my first recollection of something being different. But my mom also had Deja Vu, so it didn’t feel all that different. Then as I got older, I would just kind of know things before they happened. And I’m like, I don’t know where this is coming from, it didn’t really become clear until like my late twenties and I was living with my then boyfriend, now husband. And I started seeing things in our apartment and I was like, I don’t know what is going on. And then I got really lucky. I was talking to the receptionist at my acupuncture place. We got to talking about all this stuff and all this work that she was doing, and I was like, oh, let me ask you something. So I started to describe it to her. And she was like,” oh girl, you’ve got some gifts that you are not using. “And I was like, “what are you talking about? “And so her and I talked about. Everything she said was like, yes, that makes sense. Yes, that makes sense.

I then started to explore, what does it mean to be intuitive? What does it mean to be psychic in any way? And started to look into books and then she put me on to a teacher who I eventually studied with for a number of years. And then I was like, ’oh, if I tap into this, if I use it, my life is easier, right?’ And I’m not seeing weird stuff all over the place at night while I’m sleeping. I’m able to manage this. And it was crazy to see how my anxiety subsided, how a lot of things became more easy for me when I started to embrace that. I could feel energies outside of myself. I could also take them into myself and needed to work on that. So it was kind of a serendipitous situation where, who expects to be talking to the receptionist at the acupuncture place and have her say to you, ” Hey, by the way, you’re gifted. ”

Johnny Burke: Actually that’s a really good point because many people get confirmation of these intuitive gifts at, it could be a number of modalities. The Reiki healer experience seems to be an entry point for a lot of people to become aware of the intuitive gifts.

Viki Quirk: Totally. Because I think that. It’s a modality that feels very safe and comfortable, and that is more well-known now than a lot of other modalities are. That was one of my first explorations also too, is after I had that whole revelation in the acupuncture office, was then I pursued receiving Reiki and later got my own attunements to become a Reiki practitioner. It’s an easy access point, but I think it’s a very profound access point. where big things can happen, even though it seems rather simple and it feels safe to most people, it can be a super profound experience in it

Johnny Burke: I think a lot of people are not expecting something like that to happen-not expecting to have an awakening or waking up or whatever you want to call it. So back to your intuitive, ability. You first got a glimmer of that when you were young, but you didn’t really get full confirmation until you’re in your twenties?

Viki Quirk: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: You also mentioned Deja Vu. Were these images? Did this happen in dreams or was it spontaneous?

Viki Quirk: Typically a dream that I would have. Then I would experience the exact same event a couple of days later. Then I was like, wait, did I dream that? Or did I do this twice? In my later teen years, it became much more prevalent than that was happening. And I would sometimes be confused in class cause I’m like, why do I already know the answer to this? I dreamed it and it was just this kind of trippy experience. And my mom had mentioned having Deja Vu, but it wasn’t necessarily a conversation we really dive deep into.

It didn’t really start to click for me is that being a part of my gifts until I was in my twenties, and actually right when my dad passed away. He had cancer twice. The second time around, he went terminal, and he was in the hospital over the weekend. And the second the phone rang, I had this flash to a dream I had had about a year before of the phone ringing, us being called to the hospital and on the way to the hospital. In the dream and in reality, I had the thought of my dad just died and when we got there, he had passed. That was like the purest confirmation I ever could have gotten because it was the exact same situation playing out.

Johnny Burke: Would that be an example of a premonition?

Viki Quirk: Yeah. Yes. I see it as that. That one feels more premonition and other events that I’ve had happened, feel more like a premonition while others are Deja Vu. Others are like, “oh, I’ve seen this somewhere, Oh, in my dreams” or a similar situation. I used to teach Pilates for 10 years. So when you do something all day long for hours a day, it’s easy to dream about it and process it. That piece was really interesting for me because there’d be times I was teaching a client,” Wait, did I teach them the left side of this exercise in my dream, or did I teach it to them just now?” And have to really kind of like navigate it, but that felt more Deja Vu. That was less about it being, I saw something coming and more about somehow, I knew that day I was going to teach those exercises. It was, it feels less dramatic.

Johnny Burke: Déjà vu; would that be like dreaming about a place that you know, you’ve seen before, but you’ve never- Vicky’s never really been there. Have you had experiences like that?

Viki Quirk: Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this house that we’re currently living in, I had that same experience and it’s been interesting for me that so much of what’s happened for me has been at times of difficulties, of times of trauma, which is that’s kind of standard, I think because the veil is thin and when you’re not in your body, you can pick up on a lot more things. I think it was more of me stepping into myself as a person, particularly my late twenties. My guides were like, “Hey, it’s time for you to embrace these things. It’s time for you to utilize these for yourself and to share these gifts with others. “That was almost like a coming home moment for me to start to say,” Oh, I can have this stuff happen.”

And at that point in my late twenties, I had a couple of teachers I was working with. I wasn’t alone in it because I think the other thing is people have these things happen and they feel very alone in it because we’re not living in a society where it’s typical. My kids are growing up with it more than I did. It’s not typical for parents to say,” Hey if you ever feel these things or you have a sense of knowing or you hear things you don’t see in the room with you. That’s okay. Those are psychic gifts. “That’s not a conversation anybody’s happening,

Johnny Burke: Not really. That’s almost like if you’re sitting around the dinner table, you can say ‘great, what past life memories do you have Jimmy? ‘or, ‘Hey, did you have an awakening experience?’ you’re right, we don’t really have those kinds of discussions. They’re not really commonplace. You had just mentioned guides. I imagine that is a reference to spirit guides, right? was your first experience with your guide or your guides and, how did that happen? What did they look like? And did you even know their names?

Viki Quirk: that’s been an interesting experience for me. So my primary psychic skill is claircognizance. So I just know that. So when people will ask me, “oh, what do guides look like?” Good question. I don’t necessarily know what they look like. I don’t have that clear visual of them, but I know what they’re like in their energy or what they feel like to me. Sometimes there will be a face or something that I know. It was in my early twenties. I was about to go on a date with a guy and I got this very male voice in my head that said, ‘this is not a good idea.’ Turned out it wasn’t a good idea. and I should have listened, but back then, I didn’t know, right? But it was like,” whoa, what was that?” And that’s happened to me a couple of times where there’ll be this knowing that I’m hearing a voice.

I have had really cool, very clear visuals of who my guides are in readings with other practitioners. I have one practitioner, in particular, whom I work with all the time, and also in my breathwork sessions. So when I practice breathwork, I’ll get sometimes this really clear visual, and they’ll like float above my face while I’m breathing. And I’m like, “oh, this is a native American guide “or “oh, this is a nomadic witch from a past life, who’s my guide.” And it’s more of the knowing that they’re there and that feeling of somebody is with me and it varies.

My guides have changed over the years and over my commitment to my work and how things have gone. It’s changed where sometimes I feel a more angelic presence, which feels really soft and easy and very soft-spoken. I have one guide, she always speaks to me in this very like, direct way where she’s just kind of like, ‘get it together, girl, like, what are you doing?’ I can always tell when I’m veering off course, because of that. The guide will appear in my writing, if I’m journaling if I’m doing breathwork, if I’m an about to start a session with a client, a guide will appear to me in some way. Usually, I will hear them say like, ‘Hey, there’s going to be some messages in this session that are also for you because you haven’t been listening.’ Mine are pretty direct!

Johnny Burke: So, I’m going to reference something which happened in another episode where this woman was about to end her earthly existence. And as she walked into the kitchen to the drawer, she heard a voice saying,” sit down”. She looked around, obviously, there wasn’t anyone else in the room and she kept walking and in a very loud voice that voice said,” sit down.” I’m not going to go into the whole episode,but is that more of a clairaudient moment, or is that more of a claircognizant or is it a mixture of the two?

Viki Quirk: I think it can be a mix. I think it depends on how she experienced it. The way I always explain it to people is that I know I’m hearing something, but I don’t necessarily hear it. Like right now I can hear the heater in this room making noise. I don’t hear it that way. It’s more like, I know I’m hearing something, but some people do with clairaudience hear it, in the room, like outside of themselves.

For me, it’s more of a voice in my head that I know isn’t mine. It doesn’t sound like mine. It doesn’t feel like mine. It’s not my thoughts. Intonation can be different. Like there could be an accent. My guides come through pretty authentically in whatever their background is in that way. Clairaudience and clairvoyance were two skills I wanted to develop a bit more. And what I’ve worked on in my like 10 ish years of doing this. I’ve worked to develop some other skills because I do think there’s value in you honoring your primary skills and value and exploring other skills that you have as well too. So you can have a more rounded experience and get more out of your communication.

Sometimes you’re going to see something that’s a sign that’s maybe a plat passing, little light or a little blip or a little something. And it’s like, wait, what was that? So you want to have your eye and your third eye all attuned to seeing all the things you want to be able to hear what’s not being said in addition to what is being said. So it’s kind of more of a rounded experience of being gifted.

Johnny Burke: Can we assume that all of us have spirit guides? Because I’ve heard that quite a bit.

Viki Quirk: Yes. I believe we all do. I think what I find when I work with clients and we’re in a session, it depends on how receptive we are to the idea that there’s some things, some beings outside of ourselves that are there to help us that are there to guide us. I’ve had distinct situations in my life where I’ve shut that channel down. Do I still feel if I look back and reflect on those times, do I still feel like I’ve been pushed and kind of directed in a variety of ways and have gotten where I needed to be anyway, despite myself? Yes. And when I look at that, do I know that comes from like my spiritual team, which to me also includes loved ones who’ve passed away, past life versions of myself, myself in alternate dimensions. All of that is there for me.

I don’t believe guides ever give up on a person, but I do believe they try to find other ways if someone’s not receptive to it coming to them in a divine way, in an energetic way. I think they put people in their life to say”, Hey, here’s what you should be doing, or here’s where you should be going.” I think they find other ways.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard this quite a few times that our spirit guides can be our family that has passed on, and I’ve also talked to a number of people who’ve said your spirit guides change throughout your life, depending on where you are and where you need to go and what you need to learn. That seems to be a common entry point for a lot of people to discover their intuitive gifts. Is it not?

Viki Quirk: Yeah, and I think-

Johnny Burke: it seems like it.

Viki Quirk: If we’re paying attention to major things in our lives and we’re spiritually tapped in at all, we might notice that we’ve had one guide consistently or a couple of guides consistently, or we’ll notice a change. When I think about it, I think I had a complete guide turnover, to new guides when I had my near-death experience, which was during the birth of my older son.

There was so much for me in that whole experience that I totally backed out of all the work I had been doing. I refused and my friend and colleague and my trusted spiritual partner in all things that we talk about today, Andrea Mitchell, she could tell you I was very resistant to the idea of tapping back into any energy. I was very angry that I went into my older son’s birth, not knowing that I was going to have a near-death experience, that I was going to almost die. That anger sat with me for so long, and it took me a long time and it came to a point where I finally said to her,” okay, you can do a reading for me.” My guides came through saying that they did not know that was going to happen.

Johnny Burke: They did not?

Viki Quirk: They did not. That also then set me on edge because I was like, wait a minute- you’re supposed to know All the things.

And they’re like, ‘we know a lot of things. We can know many things. We can know many versions of things, but humans also have free will. And there were choices that were made during your birthing process that led to this thing happening you didn’t have in your soul’s blueprint.’ And at that point, my soul that I was born with exited my body and I had a soul walk-in happen, which I didn’t know any of this at the time, this all became known to me in processes literally years after the fact. But that was a moment where I tried for almost a year to shut down any intuitive hits. I was getting any psychic information and I did a pretty good job of it, but not completely. My guides weren’t going to let me go that easy.

But when that soul walk-in happened, and I finally came to terms with my guides didn’t know, they couldn’t have warned me. That whole team of spiritual guides that I had I felt changed within the next couple of months after that. And I had a new set of guides appear that I think we’re more in alignment with the soul I have now, and also more in alignment with where I was and could be kind of a fresh set of spiritual eyes and ears and support for me that I wasn’t so angry at.

Johnny Burke: So that’s the first time I’ve heard the term “soul walk-in, but I also think it ties into something you mentioned earlier, which is, I think pre-birth planning, which means you have a blueprint. You are in that in-between space that Dr. Michael Newton obviously wrote about, and you pick your mom, you pick your dad, and the boyfriend that’s going to break your heart and all that good stuff. And then you come back down here, and you forget about it, but then you have a near-death experience, which apparently your guides did not know about, but it’s because basically you had one soul go away and a soul walk-in. It’s almost like a musician saying’ I don’t like that plugin so we’re going to use this one, that’s a better,’ whatever. Maybe that’s a crude analogy, but it sounds like it’s almost like a transplant.

Viki Quirk: Yes, and so when a soul walk-in happens, there’s some reason that the soul that the person was born with is going to leave. Or sometimes two souls will inhabit a body together. And this can happen for a variety of reasons. What I’ve learned in my studying of this over the last couple of years, and just my own experience of it is oftentimes a soul believes they have met their purpose or surpassed their purpose for their incarnation in that lifetime and they’re ready to move on. I believe in what I’ve gathered in my own diving into my own stuff around this is that my soul was like, I’m tired. This has been a really hard lifetime. There’s been a lot of traumas. There’s been a lot of stuff. I’ve done a lot of work. I’ve changed in a lot of ways. I’ve grown in a lot of ways, but I’m ready. I can’t be here, and this body is failing. So if this body wants to continue on, I’m willing to turn it over to another soul that’s willing to incarnate into an established body versus coming into a newborn.

Johnny Burke: The example I just gave you a few minutes ago about a woman planning her suicide was warned by spirit or guides or whoever that was. I don’t really know, but the spirit basically told her, ‘if you go through with this , we’re going to bring you right back to the same type of situation or another lifetime.’ Could that be she is that person, her soul is going to walk into someone else’s body in the same situation, does that make sense?

Viki Quirk: Yes, it does make sense. In that case, I could see it happening where her soul is like, okay, I’m out and returns to the spirit realm and maybe hangs out in the spirit realm for a while, or then incarnates into somebody else. But another soul could step in, and she survives that attempt of suicide. If she dies from that attempt of suicide, she might come back, her soul wouldn’t have necessarily walked out for another one to walk in. Her soul could return to the spirit realm and then get reincarnated into another person with all the same lessons and experiences are going to vary. They might be a different flavor of those things, but that can happen.

That’s part of when we look at what our repeated patterns are in a lifetime, the things we consistently do. I always look at it from two perspectives, like what was going on for you and your upbringing that may be developed as a coping skill? And what’s happened to you in past lives? What lessons were there for you in other lifetimes that maybe you didn’t fully learn, or you didn’t fully inhabit the teachings of. So now you’re here to give it another go, and you have different resources in each lifetime. Is this the lifetime where you have the resources that you need to learn these lessons so that these lessons no longer appear for you in future lifetimes?

Johnny Burke: The subject of past lives is almost inescapable; this comes up quite a bit. Can you tell us what you have learned from your past lives, and do you recognize anyone you know today from one of your past lives?

Viki Quirk: Yes. Past lives have been interesting. I didn’t know anything about past lives until I had started working with my teacher, Vanessa, on intuitive work. And then she was doing some hypnosis work with me privately, and we got to talking about past lives. That’s how I got introduced to the Akashic records through my own hypnosis sessions with her.

And so it was very interesting for me. I believe in therapy, it’s valuable. But I also believe in bringing in these spiritual components, because what would happen when I would explore my past lives, either in a full past life regression session of hypnosis or through an Akashic record reading, I was like,” wait a second. I’ve done all this before. This is a pattern for me, or some stuff was just this lifetime, but I have these other past lives that can feed me information about how to work with this.

One of the first past lives that ever came up was between me and my husband. We were sisters in Russia in a past life, and it was a terribly difficult past life. We had a lot of trials and tribulations. We had a lot of challenges. And then when I looked at our relationship at that point, we weren’t going through the same thing. We weren’t sisters again, but we were having a lot of trials and tribulations and we kept coming back to each other, which was the same thing that happened in that past life. I have past lives with my mom, with my sister. I’ll have clients who sometimes I have past lives with, which has always trippy.

Johnny Burke: So it’s easily recognizable for you. I’ve always asked just out of curiosity, how many of the people in my current life are most likely someone I knew in a past life, and the consensus is, almost everyone. Would you agree or not?

Viki Quirk: I think it depends on the degree to which they were significant in our past lives as to how they may show up in present life. So I think we can encounter a lot of people in our life. People randomly that we bump into at the grocery store kind of thing, who we’ve had lifetimes with before, but that doesn’t make them significant. I also find it interesting when I do readings for people in the same family, past lives will come up between certain family members that only come up in one person’s reading, not both people’s readings. Because that past life was only significant to that person. So I do think we’re encountering people all the time.

I figured this out when people used to say to me, ” you look so familiar I swear I know you from somewhere. And if I tap it in that moment, yeah, I have a past life with them, but it’s not significant in this lifetime. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter to me. It might be more significant to them.

Johnny Burke: One of the things I think we can take away from this because you’ve mentioned pretty much the gamut. Past lives, Akashic Records, pre-birth planning. Soul guides, spirit guides rather. Is it a no-brainer for you that basically our consciousness, our souls, we don’t die? Our physical bodies obviously expire, but we keep coming back. For the people that don’t believe and are very skeptical, what would you tell them about this when they ask” how do you know this person isn’t just making this up to get attention or to sell a book on Amazon?”

Viki Quirk: It’s hard because I think it’s different for each person. I’ve dived deep enough into all of this. And I’ve had too many things happen that makes sense to what I’ve been told when I read for myself or when someone else reads for me, there’s just too much in my body that says, “yes, this has happened.” There’s too much there. I can’t deny that. When I work with other people and I do get on the rare occasion, it’s usually a loved one or a friend has referred someone to me for reading and they are very skeptical. I’ll say to them, you don’t have to do this if you don’t want to. Some of it can be fear of what they’re going to find out and what they’re going to feel compelled to or feel like they have to do with the information they receive. And so when I have those readings where someone’s like,” no, I’ll do it. I’ll do it. “But they’re resistant. I’ll usually ask their guides, to give me something that they can connect with safely that feels comfortable for them. That feels like they’ve already known this and I’m just confirming it for them. And guides will usually share something from a loved one who’s passed that there’s no way I could’ve known it because they didn’t tell me anything about it, except that I got it from their guides.

And then I can start to build that trust and that rapport. And then people start to make their own connections, which is the most beautiful thing in a session to see is to see the person say,” this is connected to this, and this is connected to that.” Then they start to open up to the idea of a past life. I find it easiest in that supportive and safe space to have that conversation.

When I’m out kind of about in the world, most people will ask what I do and I say I’m in an intuitive coach and they’re like, what does that mean? And I’ll get to tell you about it and then I see people glaze over. That’s okay. I don’t push it, but if people are curious and they ask about it, I’ll say, tell me some things that have happened in your life that feel like you’ve done them before, but you hadn’t really. And that’s when they can start to really connect to, they’re like, “yeah, I got drawn to playing the violin, but it makes no sense. No one in my family’s musical. No one I know even knew what a violin really was besides like some squeaky string instrument.” But if I asked them, “do you feel like you’ve done this before “they say “yes, I feel like I’ve done this a thousand times. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s because they did it in a past life and their soul is like” This is good for you. Do that again. Let me draw you into that. Let me get you to something that’s going to help you.”

Johnny Burke: Let’s talk about your practice. So with the Akashic Records and past lives and maybe even the in-between space where we make our blueprint; how do these things manifest in your work with your clients?

Viki Quirk: My work has evolved quite a bit. When I first started out, I was kind of just doing straight Akashic Record reading. Like a whole protocol I went through, and I was just looking at that. But what I started to realize, as I worked with a variety of people and dive deeper into the work myself was to me, the Akashic Records are the library of everything that’s ever happened in the universe. Everything that’s happened in multiple dimensions and anything that can happen in the future. Each one of us has our own reference book that we can pull out that’s going to have that information. And the librarians are the Akashic record keepers. They’re the ones who hold our information. If we can use that, we should call in all the other things that we can use too because they’re already in the Akashic records, we should call on loved ones who’ve passed away.

So I will call on loved ones who’ve passed away and ask them to be part of a session if they want to be. If they have something to share. I asked for guides who were in animal form guides, who are of a divine nature, but not necessarily one that we have a name for. Angels. I call everybody to the party. That’s what I tell clients. I want everyone to come to the party and we’ll see what everyone has to share. So when I go into a session with someone, yes, I’m opening their Akashic record with their permission because that is sacred information. And then I’m calling in all these other components as well.

I do energy work within them. We can release energetic blocks, which will then release over time and space. So that’s what’s cool. If you’re in your Akashic record, you’re healing something present day, you’re healing it in your record, which means you’re also healing it in past lives that are available to that. And you’re healing it seven generations from in present life backward and seven generations forwards. So you can do a lot of things in there that have this reverberating effect, where it stretches outward beyond anything we can imagine.

Johnny Burke: How were you drawn to pursue understanding the Akashic Records? And also you mentioned something about healing something in the past, has that changed the past life data point? Or does that reverberate forward and have an effect on the present and the future.

Viki Quirk: So my draw to it came from my teacher, Vanessa. When I worked with her, it just made so much sense to me. And it started to fill in gaps in blanks that I couldn’t fill in with therapy. So it was like the work that I was doing on myself. I would kind of stall out on some things, but as I started to explore my own past lives, I was like, “wait, I didn’t resolve this in that past life.” So that energy, there’s like this cord or a tube where, I kind of think of it like a little hamster’s house with all those little tubes that run around. So we’re like in the base, in our present life of that tube, and we can have energy running back and forth between past lives.

So I’m like, “oh, I didn’t resolve this back then.” So if I energetically work on it, what was the story of that past life? What was happening then? What does that past life version of me need to hear or have happened in order for him or her to feel complete so I can stop having that flow of energy back and forth?

So if I work on it that way, this is amazing. Then my present life also changes so we can get all that information about the past life. We can always access that story. We can always access the lessons in the wounding and all of that, of that time, but we don’t need it affecting us in the present. So we can heal it to the best that we can now. Past lives, sometimes those versions of ourselves do not want to have something healed. They are stuck in that. If that’s the case that comes up for me or somebody else, we work to then seal off that connection to the past life that’s bringing energy into the present that’s affecting the present. And we can still access all that information, but we don’t have that feeding of energy coming through. We can leave that past life where it is, but we are also then able to heal and change what comes going forward.

People always get caught up in the idea that if you’ve healed something that means you’re done. You never see it again. That’s not my belief. My belief is if you’re healing something, it’s pretty much always active. It’s how you respond to it each time it appears, or there can be some things that you heal that you don’t see again, that you’re just complete with because you’ve had lifetimes of it, or you did it really big in this lifetime. So for me, it can work to go backward and forwards from what’s presently presenting. So that was the draw for me in the Akashic records is I can use this to help my present, and then in turn heal past, and then in turn, lay the foundation for something different to happen in the future.

Johnny Burke: From a practitioner’s standpoint, how would the path to becoming a past life regression therapist or an Akashic records reader be different? Why would they take one path versus another?

Viki Quirk: that’s an excellent question. And that’s one that I get asked more than I ever thought I would. The Akashic Records is not a past life regression. So if you’re doing a pathway for aggression, you’re actually in hypnosis, typically going back into that past life and you’re experiencing that past life as it’s happening, Whatever past life you get drawn into, you’re experiencing that. When you have an Akashic record reading, someone’s telling you, and you may have recollections while you’re in a session, but someone’s telling you what’s happening in that past life or the key points of it. So there’s a difference between experiencing it or being told about it. I’ve had both, I prefer to be told about it. Because when I experience it, I get kind of stuck in, ‘oh, I should’ve done this, or I should’ve done that. And what if I tried it this way?’, but that’s not really what the regression is for. It’s not to go back and try to redo it. It’s to go back and see what was there to heal it. It gives me to know the story versus relive the story.

I think practitioners will choose what fits them best or what they feel is most effective. I’ve found both to be effective for me, but I don’t feel drawn to help people go back into those past lives. I think there can be traumatic events there that sometimes we’re not prepared for, and we can feel re-traumatized by that regression. Now, if you have a good therapist, who’s done all the things they need to do. They will process that with you and get you through that. I have a degree in social work, so this is also a more appropriate avenue for me to work with the Akashic records this way. I am trauma-informed and have trauma training, but I also know where my limit is and will properly refer someone out. If there’s trauma that’s coming up, that needs to be processed,

Johnny Burke: okay, they’re both realistic methods or modalities for learning about our past and possibly healing them. It’s just a matter of preference. They’re both valid.

Viki Quirk: Yeah. And I’ve had clients who’ve done both. and like me have found benefits in both modalities. I think you can use both. I know a couple of really great past life regression therapists, that’s all they do and it’s awesome they see me for Akashic record reading. And I see them for a past life regression. So I think you can do both. There’s no hindrance there at all. It’s totally available. And what you feel best with.

Johnny Burke: That’s a good thing to remember because I think some people might think ‘should I do one and not the other, might there be a conflict?’ So what are the biggest takeaways you feel that listeners need to know about your work, and also how this has changed some of your views, your experience?

Viki Quirk: Wow. So that’s a big question. My focus is always on my work on meeting the person where they are and their life right now and helping them to unravel what’s already happened so that they can comfortably stand in their power to move forward. It’s important that I build the trust and rapport with the person I’m working with, but also that I teach them some skills so that they can tap into whatever they define for themselves as their spiritual team. The Universe, God, whatever it is for them, I can help to teach them some skills to do that so that they can build the trust in themselves, in their intuition, and in their relationship to source, spirit, God, their guides. So that to me is the most important part. And I think that’s been my process, which is why I work so hard on helping other people with it. My process has been learning to trust myself, learning to trust that what I see and hear and know is true, even if other people don’t see it that way.

I think that’s true if we’re talking about something spiritual or just something we’ve experienced in our life. This work has allowed me to grow beyond the human experience, to see where I am a soul, having a human experience, which is kind of cliche to say- I feel like everybody says that these days, but for me, it’s also been that evolution of, I’m choosing to be here right now in this body. I should make the most of this human experience and I can access this other information that helps me to be in this human experience. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. We don’t have to be fixated on where’s my soul going next. We got to be where we are and work on these things because otherwise, our soul’s just going to do it again. So why not work on it and have a different experience next time around?

Johnny Burke: Very good point, Vicky. Thanks so much for joining us today. Excellent, excellent information. How could our listeners learn more about you online?

Viki Quirk: my website,is www.Vickiquirk.com. And I’m on Instagram. That is @Vicki_ quirk.

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