#142 Denise Damijo: Energy Healing And Shamanism
Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Denise Damijo .She is a seer, a shaman, and creator of the Healers Real Podcast, which is part of the Shamanic Group, a place where people are given the appropriate tools and understanding to be guided in their own healing journey. Today we’ll be talking about shamanic meditations, energy healing, and her path to spirituality. Denise, welcome to the program.
Denise Damijo: Yes. Thank you, John. I’m so excited to be here with you today.
Johnny Burke: We love it when someone’s excited. Thank you. Now shamanism, right? This is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, spiritual, mystical practice. What was the attraction for you in the first place?
[Denise Damijo: Well, to be quite honest, it wasn’t attraction. It was more so likeI was thrown into it. And it wasn’t a scary thing, or it wasn’t something that was intimidating or anything else. It was just really like, what is this?
So, I guess, let’s start with the dreams. I had a couple of dreams where I was told in the dreams that I was a shaman and I was like, no, I’m not. Because I had no idea what being a shaman, or a shamanism was. And so then after those dreams, Especially the dream with the man, with the bird head in a boat in the sky, you know? After the dreams, I actually was walking through an airport, I think it was Chicago airport, I can’t remember, but I was walking through an airport. It was around Covid time. The airport looked like zombie land where nobody was there. And all of a sudden, I heard woo! And all these claps and you know, all these things talking about ‘shaman coming through ‘and I’m like looking around. Nobody’s there. And so I got to the train to take me to the rental car place so I could go to my hotel for the night.
And I’m like, okay, when I get home, I need to start figuring out what the heck is a shaman because this is, this is bizarre. This is crazy. When I got home, I got an audio audible book on Shamanism, and as I was washing the dishes, I was listening to that book and everything that I was describing in there was me over the years who I was, automatically. And I was like, wow, okay.
Johnny Burke: So this came to you in a dream, but it sounds like you were in an airport, so you were conscious at the time, right?
[Denise Damijo: It was three different events. It was two different dreams. One with a bird man in a boat in the sky, with a staff that pointed to me and said, ‘you’re a shaman.’ And I was just, in that dream, I was like, is his head a bird? So I was more interested in that than what he was actually telling me. But then another dream was with a lady, and she was Native American -looking and she had electricity all around her and she threw me a staff and said, ‘you are a shaman. ‘And I threw it back at her and I said, ‘no, I’m not.’
Johnny Burke: No I’m not
Denise Damijo: No I’m not. And then she said, ‘from one shaman to the next, you’re a shaman.’ It just so happened that when that dream came about, I actually recognized the energy. Yeah. And even though it didn’t look like the person that I knew; I knew it was that person. So I went and talked to her, and she said, “yeah, yeah, well, usually when I’m dealing with my clients, I usually send them lightning bolts.” And I was like, oh my goodness. So, the lightning that I saw around her. And then her telling me that post, you know, dream. It was like, oh, okay. So, the airport was the final thing that made me say, I need to look this up.
Johnny Burke: You were awake at this time, right?
Denise Damijo: Yes, I was actually awake and that’s what, kind of like really not scared me, but I was like, shocked me the most is I think I saw a janitor, one janitor, but nobody pretty much was there. And I’m hearing all of this cheering and clapping and you’re a shaman, shaman coming through. And I’m like, I’m looking around like, where, what is this exactly?
Johnny Burke: It sounds like a scene from a Stephen King movie.
I noticed a lot of people that have intuitive abilities, and sensibilities, they tend to have these kinds of experiences very early on in childhood. So as a kid, were you able to see spirits or did you have any kind of psychic or paranormal events, or not necessarily.
Denise Damijo: I wasn’t able to see spirits. And actually, really early on, decided, I asked, God, everything else is good, but I don’t want to see spirits. And this was actually, I asked him that, after I started to hear the voice. So like one day I was sitting in my father’s forum of his condominium, and I was playing, I believe with a train or something like that, and all of a sudden, you know, I heard a voice, and it says, ‘Denise, you’re special, you’re my daughter. ‘And I’m like, and I’m so happy and excited. I’m not, you know, scared or anything. And I’m like, really? I am? Does that mean Jesus is my brother? And he’s like, ‘yeah, something like that, you have special gifts. ‘And I was like, really? Like Aladdin The Genie? because that’s the movie that I was watching. So, it was so interesting that he came down to my level of understanding and was talking to me. I wasn’t afraid. I didn’t even tell anybody about this until I got older, but yeah, he was like, you know, He was just really, personal with me.
From there that’s when I kind of like, I don’t even know how I started making agreements, but yeah, I’ve made agreements throughout my life. Like, it’s okay for me to hear these voices and everything else, but I don’t want to see it because I saw the Sixth Sense and after seeing the Sixth Sense, I said, no, I don’t want to have that experience. And it didn’t, it hasn’t happened.
Johnny Burke: Okay. And you were how old when this happened?
Denise Damijo: I was five when that happened.
Johnny Burke: Okay. You mentioned him, do you have any inkling of who this was? could that have been a spirit guide or something of that nature?
Denise Damijo: I don’t have, to my knowledge, male spirit guides, although I did at one point in time, I did ask that question. I don’t know if they were my spirit guide or a guardian that showed up and they had a deep voice and everything else, and they just said a couple of words and then laughed, and I never heard from them again. And so, I don’t know. I always say that that was God, like the introduction to the spiritual world was God.
Johnny Burke: All right, so you never really had male spirit guides, which means you were obviously cognizant of spirit guides in the first place. Did you have female spirit guides or were these entities more of the shamanistic, type of being?
Denise Damijo: Okay, so let me just say this. I didn’t even know that they were spirit guides. I have no idea what they were. I just knew that they were there, and I didn’t even know that there were more than one. And over the years, as I got older and as I started to connect with other people, because I thought I was only one, I didn’t know that there was multiple people out there having these experiences. Like I said, I never really talked about it with anybody until I got in my, I think thirties.
Well, actually no, I take that back, twenties. That being said, there may be a difference in between the spirit guides when you’re talking about shamanistic spirit guides and other spirit guides. And the reason being is because of the assignments that we have to do in these lives. And so we need particular spirit guides in order to guide us. my main spirit guide is a woman, a female, feminine energy
Johnny Burke: Okay. You just mentioned assignments, which sounds very much like a soul assignment or a soul agreement. Did you make those agreements in this life? The reason I bring that up is because this often comes up when someone has past life memories and memories of the place where we go in between incarnations. Do you have any experience in that area?
Denise Damijo: No, I don’t recall the actual agreement that I’ve made, prior to, but the assignment is clear and evident throughout my whole life, even before I even understood or knew what an assignment was. I have broken contractual agreements that I have made in the past before I even got into this life.
And how I did that was it was simple. It’s not a complicated ceremony. It’s just really just saying what you do and do not want, and really knowing how to say it and do it, and then honoring that and believing that it’s going to occur.
Johnny Burke: In other words, you might’ve made an agreement, for this life. this incarnation, but you say you can change it?
Denise Damijo: Yes. Let me give you a prime example. So I had an agreement that I was supposed to experience this life with another human being. Well, that human being I decided on was not somebody that I wanted to experience life with. I was actually in a ceremony at that particular time, and in the ceremony,
I just said, if this is the way that it’s going to be, and, and I’m going to continue to have these experiences that I am not comfortable with, that I don’t like, let’s end it now. I don’t want to have this experience, let’s hemorrhage the ties, cut the ties and move forward without this individual. And ever since then, what is it called? Fire Flames.
Johnny Burke: Twin flames?
Denise Damijo: Twin Flames. Yes. I’m sorry. Twin flames. And, how you’ll never lose the connection and how this was supposed to be, my twin flame, we experienced so many lives together and everything else. Well after I’ve been free, and so, it is possible, and that’s just one occurrence where I did say that and do there’s been others where I’ve also cut the ties, and broke contracts that I had as well.
Johnny Burke: So when you break a contract, I know this is not the easiest question in the world to, to ask, but, with a broken contract, what kind of karmic implications might that have? I’ve been told many, many times that sometimes the assignments that we have for a particular life are not supposed to be pleasant because there’s an objective for either that person or the group to learn something from it. Do you have any insight into that?
Denise Damijo: That’s a good question. What the karmic debt would be, I’m not too concerned about that. And the reason being is because the karmic debt that I have is appeasing and I know that is going to help me to live a happy and a good quality life outweighs the other. And so, me personally I’ve been going back and forth in this, in the last couple of just months. I was like, do I really want to come back to this life or do I not? I think I want to just be an ascended master and be somebody’s spirit guide or, or guardian or something and I was like, I don’t even want to be a spirit guide. I think I want to be a guardian. I think the spirit guides have it bad sometimes, they got their work cut out for them. And so, I’m still contemplating what I desire to have happen. And, when you’re talking about if it’s going to bring because of your severing ties, or breaking contracts, is it going to be replaced with the negative? I personally don’t think so. I personally think that the choice is ours. It’s just, did I get the lesson that I needed to learn, prior to severing the contract? And I believe I did.
Johnny Burke: Okay. So that would answer that question then because I think the objective as far as I’ve been told, the most important thing is the lesson, but then others would kind of deviate from that track or that line of thought. And they would say, there is no good and bad. It’s all experience. And one incident or one instance, which kind of sticks out as when someone told me you can experience being the aggressor, but it’s also just as important to experience what it’s like to be the victim.
You see the positive and the negative, the light and the dark. So there are those that will say, well, the lesson’s not so important, as long as you get many different types of experiences. Do you have any insight into that as well?
Denise Damijo: Yes. I don’t really truthfully believe that there is a good and bad. I was just having this conversation again yesterday, last night. We have no understanding to everything that occurs in this life and why it occurs. And so with our limited understanding, we have to realize how important it is to have balance in the world. And so this balance in the world, there’s sea, there’s water, there’s land, there’s sun the day and there’s night. There are women and there’s men. Feminine energy. Masculine energy. There is a balance. And so that’s the distinction when you’re talking about good and bad. They both have very important roles that need to be played in each individual’s life.
Johnny Burke: So it sounds like what you just described is the 3 D world we live in, which is also described as the world of duality. Right? Right. Okay. Let’s talk about some of your experiences with shamanism. I believe you’ve had some with indigenous peoples; Indigenous tribes. Right?
Denise Damijo: Yes, yes. when I went down the rabbit hole and I started to like, get involved in shamanism even more, I sat with a couple of tribes, one, Shipibo, tribe and. being the Kuan tribe. I actually sat with Apge, there for like three weeks and her children and they always said, we’re shamans in training.
I feel like, even though I say that I’m a shaman, I’m always going to be in training until the day I die. There’s no arrival. And that’s a wonderful experience that I know that it’s truth, there’s no arrival. We’re always consistently learning and observing and growing and ascending.
And so I sat with them, and I actually learned, later on, those people are actually my guardians. And this was a contractual agreement that had happened like many, generations ago.
Johnny Burke: Many moons.
Denise Damijo: Yes. And so it was very interesting because, when I did a guided meditation and first met my spirit guide for the first time many years ago, and I met my guardians, and it was exactly those same people. And I even asked about that, and they said, well, no, if you heard that, you need to go check into that. And so, but I never did until I saw them again and I was like, that was them.
I also sat with the Kero tribe. So that’s those tribe that I’m initiated in, an energy healing tribe. And they don’t even call themselves shamans, but that’s, if you look at what they are and what they do, that’s who they are. They’re shamans but they do energy healing. And I’ve been doing energy healing and I didn’t know what it was since 2006. And so when I got initiated into the tribe, I was already a reiki master and it instantaneously clicked like, oh, this is my people, this is the energy healing is my shamanic gift, like the one of the biggest.
Johnny Burke: Well, the energy healing, I was told it’s not only just a component of shamanism, but it also seems to be an entry point for many Intuitives, whatever the experience is. for instance, there’s a woman that I interviewed recently and, through meditation she discovered energy healing somehow through energy healing and the combination of the two, then she discovered her past lives, and she was also able to, have contact with people that have passed on. Now, do you see the same thing in your work that the energy healing is kind of like a flashpoint for someone to discover their intuitive abilities or gifts?
Denise Damijo: Now if it’s coming from the individual person practicing energy healing? Possibly because it’s the ability they’re using, to really, use energy to heal themselves, and then also energy for so many different things. See, I’m an energy healer as well as an energy transmitter. And so, I’m highly skilled at transmuting energy. A lot of times when people get it, whatever that energy is, if it’s not appeasing energy, like if it’s not the energy that they want, they don’t know what to do with it. And if they do something with it, they don’t transmute it. They maybe cast it away and the energy goes somewhere else and creates havoc somewhere else. And so with me it’s more so knowing how to transmute it. If a person has started to do or deal with energy healing and they know what they’re doing, and they didn’t just go through some kind of a bogus class they really do have the opportunity to open different doors that may have been closed to them.
Johnny Burke: Okay. So transmuting energy issomething I don’t hear a lot about, I guess the concept is probably easier than the actual work, but would that be basically transforming negative or dark energy into something positive and useful, or is it a matter of taking negative energy and putting that into like a psychic waste disposal?
Denise Damijo: So it’s basically transforming energy into something that is more so needed in that experience. And it’s a way of controlling the energy that is different from just energy healing. And so I think a, a good energy healer is also a transmuter as well. I’m not going to say that you have to be a transmuter in order to be a good energy healer, but I will say that I think a good energy healer also is a transmuter. And so, you can even have animals that are transmuters. I have a friend that has a cat that, in different ceremonies, the cat sits there, and they transmute the energy during the ceremonies .Another thing that I have experienced in transmuting energy is you could do it in different ways in music. I’m a singer, and not even just a singer, I have downloaded a song that’s in a totally different language. And not only am I singing it in a different language, but I’m also singing it in different pitches, specifically for the transmutation to occur.
Johnny Burke: So, in other words, you’re not singing in 440hz it’s like 432 or something different?
Denise Damijo: the thing is, the same words, the same songs depend upon how the pitch that I’m singing them in, and then the order of the words that I’m putting them in, it creates a totally different meaning. It could mean one thing in the ceremony and then it could mean a totally different thing, and I’m doing something different in the next. But the same words that I’m using, just different pictures and different expressions.
Johnny Burke: What you said about animals is really interesting. And it would at least partially explain why so many people have pets. Do you think that it’s possible that many of our domestic pets, cats, dogs, they basically also transmute energy for us without us even knowing about it?
Denise Damijo: I would agree with that. I feel like there are particular animals out there that help with that. And so, like for instance, I had, it’s been like seven weeks, and I had basically open-heart surgery. It’s not actually called that, but they did when go in and open up my chest and my sternum and everything else. And, put my heart and lungs on a bypass and had to do some things in there.
All of a sudden, I was like, I want a cat. I have no idea where that came from. it just came to me. That I need a cat, and this is why it’s very important to do integrative wellness, and medicine is because I was blocked in an area and, it needed to be unblocked by conventional medicine, which was the surgery. And so once that happened, now the healing process has begun. I already see ways that I was blocked spiritually and in different departments of my life or compartments of my life, that it’s now, flowing smoothly. And so now the cat energy and also you have to go look at it as far as like, with Isis with the Egyptians, because that’s where my connection is highly in the Egyptian realm
is coming in and saying, we need to come in for this next stage of your life.
I’m also a Jaguar. That’s my representation. And even in ceremonies, when I’m sitting in ceremonies, I’m on the side of the Jaguar side, every single ceremony. And I realized I’m always on the side of the Jaguar, but that’s who I am, you know? And so it just goes. It went.
Johnny Burke: So the Jaguar has the strongest bite of all the big cats. That might be part of the attraction. You mentioned the Egyptians a moment ago, did some kind of entity or someone representing the Egyptian realm come through in a way? or how did you discover that?
Denise Damijo: So many years ago, I took like a class, and this is when I first was going down the road of., experiencing different things other than Christianity because, I’ve seen too much that is not explained or explored in Christianity, and you can’t unsee that. and nobody wants to talk about it. It’s demonic. And so I wanted to know more. so I took this class and as I was taking this class, one of the things was, go meet your spirit guides.
So I’m meeting my spirit guides and here she comes and she’s like, I feel her wings, I feel the wind on her wings. It’s a bright, like gold light that’s coming in. And, and then she, just hands me a little small world and closes my hand and it says the world is mine. And I already knew as soon as she flew in. Isis.
What’s so interesting about this is that when I know these things, like for instance, I would point out somebody and I’m like, ‘that’s a healer.’ And I’m like, where do these words come from? because I don’t even know what they mean, like, Yeah, I don’t even know, like, where did I get this information from?
And so, after she, closed my hand on the world and she flies off and everything else, and I go back into class and that’s the same time I met my guardians and everything else, and I’m telling them about my experiences. and then people in the class were like, well, all I saw was a purple blob. My experience is totally different from a lot of other people’s experiences,
Johnny Burke: You mentioned something, a moment ago about Christianity. I’m going to go out in a limb here. this is another tough question, but it does come up when we talk about Christianity and shamanism, apparently there are gnostic gospels, I believe it’s four of them, that speak of, secret teachings of Jesus and how they’re similar to shamanic practices. Has your experience given you any insight into that?
Denise Damijo: I am glad that you asked that. And also, God, I’m getting emotional about it because, I feel like that Jesus has been so misrepresented.
Johnny Burke: Mm-hmm…..
Denise Damijo: The way that I look at Jesus, Yeshua is that he is one of the baddest shamans that ever walked this earth. He himself is a shaman. And how I also look at him, and I was just having this conversation this yesterday, I’m glad that we’re having it today, you know, this podcast because a lot of stuff is fresh on my mind. Everybody puts him as he is a person. He did come in the flesh form because he needed to. Right? he’s also, it’s a what? What is he? And the reason why it says that you can’t get to the father, which is God, without going through the sun, is because Jesus, Yeshua, he represents healing. that’s his whole thing is healing.
For you to get to God and really see God for who he is and also what this world is and why it is, you have to go through healing, which is him. And once you go through that, it’s almost like the veil is able to be lifted from your eyes, the filters removed, and you’re able to see things more clearly.
Johnny Burke: The reason I brought that up, and I’m glad I did, because apparently this has been on your mind as well. in episode number 115 a woman named Betty Kovacs. We’ve done actually a couple episodes and, one of the first things she brought up is that there’s evidence that the church has suppressed our mystic and shamanic past, for centuries. One of the other things she brought up is I believe this goes back to Egypt, speaking of which, in the fourth century, there were the Nag Hammadi texts, right, which long story made short,
Jesus was represented as saying, don’t worship me, become me. What happened was the officers of the church went to all these encampments at Nag Hammadi and s told these people ‘Either you destroy every single one of these texts or you face either excommunication or execution. ‘They did not destroy them. They buried them and they were discovered, about the same time as the Dead Sea Scrolls, I believe, right after World War II. Betty’s point, and it was a very good one, was the church basically inverted the myth and taught us to worship a God outside us when it’s actually within us. Your thoughts on that?
Denise Damijo: I completely agree. I completely agree. Because that’s what you see in Christianity. It’s like, the blood of Jesus and all these things. And you have to also ask yourself, why does it seem like the spiritual giftings came before Christianity. They were here before Christianity.
Johnny Burke: Way before Christianity
Denise Damijo: Exactly. They help to make it powerful. But as far as the power doesn’t lie in worshiping Jesus as a, a being, The power lies just like, you said is in becoming him and entering into that healing. And once you get healed, you start to see who, first of all, who you really are. And why you are. And then you start to see other people and, and have an appreciation and respect, for their role in this life as well.
Johnny Burke: and another thing that comes to mind, that I am read about the Mormons, at about the same time I discovered all this years ago. Apparently, the Mormons believed that a mortal man could become God or a God. So it’s not like this idea is completely novel, but when you really look at the entire history, it makes a lot of sense. Shamanism, as far as we know, is at least, what, 30, 40,000 years old?
Denise Damijo: Yes,
Johnny Burke: It goes back quite a ways, now since we’re talking about Christianity and Jesus and healing, the Healers Realm podcast, what can we expect from that and what are the things that might come up?
Denise Damijo: One of the things that inspired me to create the Healers Realm podcast is because when I was going down my journey of discovering the spiritual side of things and shamanism, I created the podcast and had people on there to share their experience, how to protect themselves, what to look for, what questions to ask, before participating in any kind of ceremonies and things of that nature. It took off from there because I wanted to explore other things like, spiritual giftings that I have.
I don’t consider myself a psychic. I consider myself a seer. So I had a person come on there and we discussed that and I wanted a place where people could go and get information. What’s going to be coming, up is really interesting, is I want to be able to kind of like integrate, the spiritual side of things where people could really get the tools that they need in order to have the best healthy experience in a holistic way, experience that they could have. In 2023, it’s more of a progressive thing that we need to try to integrate. We come from different bloodlines and our bloodlines are calling out for different things, that is needed within our bodies and to survive and also in our spiritual journeys.
Johnny Burke: Now you just mentioned being a seer, which I meant to bring up, a bit earlier. You’re a seer, but you’re not a psychic. I always was under the impression that a seer is either psychic and or a medium. So how is that different for you?
Denise Damijo: This is how I got to the point of knowing or feeling like they were different. I never connected with the word psychic. I was told in a ceremony that I was a seer and I came from a line of seers and I was even shown the seer that, saw me and started to get things in motion to protect me and to give me, tools that I needed and also contractual agreements and stuff like that for me so anyway, how I see being a seer is I’ve come in contact with so many different psychics and I really was studying them. The thing that I see is integrity, number one, there’s a lot of psychics that have it, but there are a lot that are out there, that are on full display that don’t.
Johnny Burke: That don’t have the training, in other words. I think it’s important, if I can bring this up really quickly. A man named Robert Ginsberg,
I believe he is the founder of the Forever Family Foundation. He was featured on Netflix series, Surviving Death. He wrote a book called The Medium Explosion. Apparently, it’s a handbook for people that are starting to explore mediums because his whole theory is that the bulk of the mediums out there, even though they might mean well, don’t have enough training. And I think that applies to not just mediums, but other practitioners like shamans and energy healers and the like. Would you agree?
Denise Damijo: Oh, I totally agree. And some people, especially in the shamanic community, they first discovered shamanism a year ago, sat in a couple of, ceremonies, and now they’re a shaman. You need to have formal training. Now, mind you, I started to really go down the rabbit hill of Shamanism in 2020. However, I’ve been living my whole life like this. I just did not know what it was called. I was transmuting energy. I have been a energy healer since 2006. I’ve been seeing spirits and communicating with spirits since I was five. These are things that I’ve done and now I just have a name for it and a place for it in this particular community. But this is who I’ve been all my life. whereas people just woke up one day, saw a shaman and sat in a couple ceremonies and now all of a sudden they’re a shaman. I think that’s very disrespectful. You have introduced me as a shaman, I’m still in training, and I’ll be in training all my life. And I feel like something similar needs to happen within these people that are becoming practitioners, There’s a lot of psychics out there that may possibly don’t have the training that is necessary. But I also think that it’s an integrity thing. With me being a seer, the biggest difference that I see is I can tell anybody and everybody something and dissect their whole story and tell them the future and everything else. If that’s not the case, I’m not going to put myself out there and exploit my gifts like that.
Johnny Burke: It is true of mediums also, and I think it’s a measure of your integrity when you can basically say,’ this isn’t happening.’ And I can understand why that might give someone a bad review, but at least there’s, organizations like, Forever Family Foundation certifying mediums and promoting awareness of what the sitters, the people that seek out the mediums, what they should look for and what they should avoid. I would imagine you’re doing something with The Healer’s Realm podcast as well, which I think we all need.
We hear a lot about three D, five D and raising our vibration and Ascension. How does your work, with Shamanism and your podcast actually figure into that?
[Denise Damijo: That’s a good question. I do feel like Yeshua came back. He’s already here. Like people are saying when Jesus comes back, because they’re looking for all these things to happen and everything, and he’s already back. And so it is the healer season. And that’s why I’m here in such a time as this. it wasn’t by coincidence; it wasn’t by chance. I’m a two 11 and when you’re talking about life paths, you know, two is for healing and 11 is master. So I’m a master of healing and I’m also a jaguar. I’m also a seer and I’m also a shaman because I was needed in such a time as this. Raising the elevation, people have been born in this timeframe specifically to do that. After I had my surgery, I had a dream and that was the first vivid dream that I had in a while.
And when I say vivid, they could touch you and you could touch them. The experience is so real and when you don’t have breath, there’s something wrong. And that’s what was happening to me. They had to repair that so that I could have that flow. But I also saw a huge body it was like, have you ever seen a building is getting fixed and they have these different things for people to work on?
: So that’s what was on the body is these different like levels and they were working on this part of the body and that part of the body. And that’s what’s happening right now in this life. That a particular part of the body is being worked on, is being healed, is being fixed so that it can operate and conduct what it needs to conduct, and it’s very interesting because that’s who I come in contact with, is people that are on that same journey, that are doing those similar things or things that both of us could be connected to and help so that we could all raise the vibration. It’s not just a me thing, it’s a we thing, it’s a we experience and once we get that, once we understand that then we could have and make this experience a better experience. But we have to learn that this is not oh, an individual thing. but.
Johnny Burke: Very well done.
Denise Damijo: Yeah, but That’s what we are. We have to work together as a team. And even if it’s just, in passing, you do something one time and there’s a connection. That’s the connection that you needed to go to the next level. That’s how we’re working now.
Johnny Burke: I did want to ask a question about, you mentioned that you are a two 11, but I have a feeling that that’s going to open up another kettle of fish. So, I will say, thanks for coming onto the show. I do believe there’s going to be a part two.
Denise Damijo: Oh, yes, I would love to.
Johnny Burke: To be continued. Denise, again, thanks very much for coming on today. How can our listeners learn more about you in the meantime?
[00:35:26] Denise Damijo: Yes. Okay. So you could, find me underscore the @_thehealer’s realm on Instagram.if you want to write me, go to theshamanicgroup.com, or send me an email at email@example.com.