Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Greg Riley. He’s a medium, channel and intuitive coach, and in addition to mediumship readings, he uses his experience to help people tap into their intuition for higher performance. In this episode, we’ll discuss what he’s learned about the astral, the spiritual realm, and how to transcend the human experience. Greg, welcome to the program.
Greg Riley: Johnny, thanks for having me, mate. I really much appreciate it.
Johnny Burke: So, transcending the human experience. I’m curious; do most people even know what that is or not necessarily?
Greg Riley: No, not necessarily. A lot of people are actually, fixated in their identity as, as who they are. Like, I am Greg and I am my clothes, my bank balance, my car, my job, my family, and what I do. And most people are attached to what they do, not actually who they are as a soul and entity and an experience, all that stuff. It’s a bit of unlearning what people think they are to bring them back to who they really are, which is an observer of consciousness.
Johnny Burke: An observer. Okay. Kind of like a passenger almost.
Greg Riley: Passenger on board. Yes. Yes.
Johnny Burke: That’s a great explanation. I love that. So, you are a medium and a channel. So how and when did you first discover that you had, I guess I would say psychic abilities?
] Greg Riley: I had stuff as a child, which I didn’t really understand at all. because I used to astral travel as a child, used to be able to leave my body and, the astral world itself, as a young child. but then I got my teenage years puberty hit, you know, went and played sport and all that kinda stuff. It wasn’t until I tapped into meditation and martial arts in my late teens, early twenties, they started to reactivate themselves in that space again. I was always intuitive. I always had an ability bit like say a Mozart or a Beethoven was born with piano ability beyond anybody else. And I’m a firm believer everyone can learn intuition. Everyone can, because it’s our natural state.
Our natural state is intuitive, loving, caring, abundant. It’s our spiritual state. It’s always there. It’s the stories that get in the way. But I suppose I probably was born with more of a higher access to that stuff, especially when I talk about astral trouble as a kid, being able to walk out of the room and just, see my body back down on my bed and going, well, that’s interesting. And then be able to, you know, jump through portals and stuff like that.
Johnny Burke: Portals and astral travel. As a kid, that must have been fun. I guess you probably didn’t have, as much use for toys as the other kids did,
Greg Riley: no, no, it was, look, it was fun because I used to be able to go down into my road, jump through a portal, end up in my uncle’s farm, some fair way away. And it was just natural and normal. Because you don’t know anything different. You’ve got no idea that that’s really abnormal in that space.
But once you sort of grow up, and then I went to a Catholic school and then you start to be indoctrinated by the schooling system and all that stuff, those abilities tend to start to leave you. I didn’t think anything different of it, and it wasn’t until I was in my late teens, that I went, oh, this is not normal. But you just don’t realize at the time, you just think, oh, that’s just part of life as a young child, what happens, right?
Johnny Burke: Right, because how could you possibly know that it was not normal at that age? So.
Greg Riley: Correct.
Johnny Burke: What kind of beings or things did you see when you were out in the astral?
Greg Riley: I always come across two young girls in white dresses. They were always there and every single time they were like my sort of guardians, they weren’t like angels or anything like that. They were like young girls. They were like nine or 10 years of age. Well, that’s how they presented it to me anyway, right? And they were always there with me, and they were always just guiding me and, and being with me in those experiences. They were very gentle, very kind. They had very strong feminine energy. And they sort of played with me and showed me things and took me places and all that kind of stuff. And they’re still around me to this day. I used to dream about them all the time. It was very regular. They didn’t have any names or anything like that. Didn’t ask them their name. It was just a, a presence. When I saw them, I recognized them as people I already knew, or spiritual integers I already knew. I didn’t sort of find that I ran into religious figures or anything like that, or any evil entities or anything. I was more about just these two young girls just guiding me through the astral realm and exploring,
Johnny Burke: The two girls in the white dresses, were they spirit guides?
Greg Riley: I think. Yeah. What I’ve come to learn later on in life, they’re definitely spirit guides for me. Yeah,
Johnny Burke: That’s what it sounds like. So did they have. Like modern dress or?
Greg Riley: Just a plain white dress. Just plain, like I wouldn’t say it was periodic to any kind of thing. It was like luminescent, right? They had sort of white hair as well too, right? So. And you couldn’t really see their faces too much. It was just more of a luminescence. Very high vibrational, you know, essence to both of them.
Johnny Burke: So any other beings or any other things of note that you witnessed while you were, in the astral?
Greg Riley: It was only until, I suppose when I went back into, later on in life, when I started doing the meditation, martial arts and going back into a deep meditative state that I came across, your Merlins, your Thoth. I’ve had, experience with John the Baptist at one stage. Yeah, really profound kind of thing. but a lot of stuff around, especially around the archetype of Merlin in itself, about the alchemy of that. And I’ve had many journeys in that space. But a lot of animals . I’ve seen panthers, eagles, leopards, all that kind of stuff. And, when that stuff comes through, it’s different in a way as well too. The animal spirits are very protective. That’s why in that space, whereas the Thoth stuff, the Merlin stuff is more of a guide, a teaching kind of thing where they help me as far as teaching me about the spiritual side of life, the why we are here, what we’re meant to do.
Whereas the animals, that’s very much a totem, it’s protective space. I remember at one stage when the eagle sort of come in the back of me and just placed up my back and his wings opened up around me and just sat there. And just went, I’m just here to protect the back of you. And then the leopard came to me at the front, and it was just like, I’m here and it just filled up my chest area and stuff like that. I’m very grateful for the experience. Because when you feel the presence of this and you feel the presence of these energies and these entities, you have this aspect of life that is just not this existence here on earth. There is something more to, you know. what we are here to do and experience as well too. So it’s quite life changing the space, but you know, when you’re sitting there Yeah. Talking to Merlin about the archetypes of alchemy and stuff like that, I’ve had times when I’ve had Egyptian hieroglyphics, just come down into my hands and stuff like that, and my hands get really hot and said to my wife, I feel this, she goes, my God, that’s burning. I can feel the energy coming off this stuff and these guys are channeling through me. It’s profound.
Johnny Burke: So you did not doubt that any of these experiences were imagined. They were very, real?
Greg Riley: Yeah. And especially the stuff when, I’ve had physical stuff happen to me, especially with my hands, where they start to really vibrate and the heat comes off them and I’ve been able to have, my wife witness some of this stuff. She’s like that is serious heat coming off your palm with your hands. But, like half an hour before that, they were cold , so when I tend to go into a sort of a psychic state or a meditative state, my hands actually get very, very cold. But in these experiences, when these energies come through, both the chakras and the palm of your hands. They just vibrate and they get very, very powerful. And it’s just this heat comes off and it’s quite profound. So when I see things like that, you’re having the physical manifestation of the spiritual as well. It is something that you kind of go, yeah, there’s the evidence as well.
Johnny Burke: And speaking of the spiritual, this question does tend to come up a lot- the astral and the spiritual realm, are they the same thing?
Greg Riley: Astral is part of the spiritual realm.
Johnny Burke: Part of it. Okay.
Greg Riley: Yeah. So it’s like, we’ve got light, but light encompasses x-rays, gamma rays, all the other aspects of light. But we have light as the collective, but inside that you have all these frequencies of different versions of light. Same with the spirit realm. The spirit realm has different versions of the astral, and then beyond the astral, and then the consciousness and that kind of stuff.
So you’ve got different frequencies of the level of the spiritual realm. So the astral realm will probably be where you find your ghosts, your lost souls that people haven’t passed over in between states. and, more of your playful spirits, negative spirits. Some more demonic stuff as well too. So, it’s more of a lower vibrational part of the spiritual realm, but it’s meant to be there for that reason.
Johnny Burke: Okay. So if you could break the spiritual realm into, say, three parts, that would be like the lower third maybe?
Greg Riley: Yeah. Yeah. Correct.
Johnny Burke: Okay. That’s where you mentioned lost souls, people that haven’t, crossed over, and that type of thing. Speaking of which, have you had any contact with lost souls or, people that have not crossed over and so forth?
Greg Riley: When I was doing a lot of mediumship readings, there is this kind of, perception that people who take their own life get lost and stuff like that, that’s not necessarily the case, right? Most people go to the light. Most people actually end up where they meant to end up in that space, right? But there were some times where there were lost souls who get caught in this three-dimensional world where they get stuck, attached to this world it takes time from the transition, and realize, that there’s more to life on the other side than that.
So, quite often, when I was doing my training and stuff like that, we would come across energies where they were stuck per se. And it’s not from a place that they’re just a bit confused as to, I’m not alive anymore, but I’m still very much attached to the earthly realm in that space. And they’re sort of stuck in the energies of the earthly realm and they don’t want to let that go because they’re fearful of what’s on the other side. They may have done some bad things and may some bad might happen to them. They may have that fear of, you know, God and brimstone and all that kind of stuff.
But what you can do is actually help communicate with them and help them transition to the other side in that kind of way. So there’s a lot of mediums who do soul retrievals and they predominantly sit there with souls who are stuck in between the realms and help them transition over. A lot of it’s based on fear, so the soul’s got some kind of fragmentation or some basis of fear in the space. And you’ll find all of it is soul fragmentation because something traumatic has happened in some way.
Johnny Burke: Good point about soul retrieval and mediums who do help souls cross over because one of my questions that comes up is, how do we help these souls? I don’t think anybody wants them to be stuck there. one of my, mediums that I’ve actually, Interviewed several times. I asked her once I said, “So you’re kind of like a spiritual crossing guard. You help these souls go from where they are because they’re confused or whatever the case may be to go to the light.” And she goes, “Yes, that’s exactly what I do. “
Greg Riley: Yeah.
Johnny Burke: Very cool. So do you still do mediumship readings or not really?
Greg Riley: I still do some, not as much as I used to because I’ve morphed mainly now into the intuitive coaching space, but I still do see several, private clients for the mediumship side of things. It’s one of the greatest jobs in the world to help people heal and be able to give them some evidence that their loved ones don’t cease to exist, and that they can walk out of a session with me and kind of go, well, Greg says some things he shouldn’t have known here.
Johnny Burke: Exactly.
Greg Riley: He can’t have known about this person. It’s just the presence of love. And if we can help people sort of heal their grief and understand that their loved ones are watching over and they’re with them, and they do miss them and they do love them, then you we can give some comfort to people that are still here going through that grieving process.
Johnny Burke: It’s something I hear again and again. So yeah, that’s definitely on point; It does give people some comfort. For those who want to seek out a medium, how do we know if a medium has genuine ability?
Greg Riley: Yeah, very common question because, why I was taught was by the spiritualist way of doing it. So very British way of doing mediumship. So it’s very evidential or based, right? So that’s sort of the style I’ve been taught in which basically you’ll sit down in front of me, all I ask for is yes or no questions. And I’ll just usually say, I’ve got a male here. I think it’s your father. Looks like he passed. There’s a chest issue here. It feels like a heart attack. He’s here one minute, gone the next, And then you’ll start describing from that space. Now, that’s what the medium should say. But if a medium says, “ I think there’s a person in your family who’s died of cancer, and with the initial J, do you have anyone with the initial J in your family who’s died of cancer?” They’re the fake ones. They’re the ones who are fishing for stuff. Right? Because I know three people with Jays in my family who have died of cancer, So it’s a very broad, rather than saying, “ Hey John, I’ve got, there’s a male here. I think it’s your father who comes with a fatherly presence. I feel like he’s showing me the chest. I feel he’s here. One minute gone. The next is quick. And I feel like there’s a heart attack there or stroke or some kind of way, but it’s, showing me blood, there’s red there. Can you confirm? “And that’s what a good medium will actually do is give you that kind of evidence and go from there. Right? So rather than fishing for stuff. The other one is I’ve got your grandparents coming through, 99% of people have grandparents that have passed over. Right?
I’ve had mediums give me readings before, and it’s like,” your, dad’s coming through to say hello.” Well, I’ve never met him. So my thing is, well, why is he coming through? they’re in that space there. You got to understand that if you’ve got, mediums are saying that your great grandfather’s coming through, you’ve never met, that’s crap. Because why are they? they’ve never met them, right?
So they’re just fishing in that space, right? Usually, people are coming because they’ve lost someone very close to them. and it’s quite tragic. So you shouldn’t actually have someone sort of just fishing around grandparents and that kind of stuff. Now you do have obviously occasional people who do come because they’re grandparents. I’ve had people where I’ve brought through a lady’s mum and dad and she’s like, stared me down. It’s like, ” don’t care”. And then I went, but there’s a maltese-shitzu here. And then she started crying and she goes, “that’s why I’m here cause my dog passed over.” So even in that space, it, it goes beyond just the people. You find People come for pets as well too. Like sometimes people are more connected to their pets than they are to their partners or their parents.
Johnny Burke: I noticed that and there are, animal communicators as they tend to position themselves as rather than mediums. I don’t know if there are as many animal communicators as mediums, but it’s gaining some traction and there are people that do just, that. They don’t do the typical mediumship readings about your parents or your grandparents or anything like that. So your website mentions five D, is that a reference to the fifth dimension?
Greg Riley: No, the five D’s reference is what I call the five dimensions of the human experience, right? So there’s the physical, the mental, the social, the spiritual, the financial. So, they’re the five aspects of what makes up a human being. And then you’ve got on top of that three-dimensional, four-dimensional, five-dimensional, trying to get you to the fifth-dimensional space. So these are plays on words, right? So I use the five aspects of, the human experience to reach five-dimensional reality.
Johnny Burke: So it’s related.
Greg Riley: Related.
Johnny Burke: it is. I think it’s all about raising the vibration,
Greg Riley: My thing is you have to have all five things in place to raise that vibration in that space to get to there, right? So, you can’t have certain things and then, your connection socially offers people being very low vibrational. We got to have a balance across all five dimensions of the human experience. And then from that space, you can start to ascend in the world of, fourth-, and fifth-dimension experiences.
Johnny Burke: So with those five components, it’s almost like getting a spiritual tune-up sort of right. You have to look at the fuel system, the exhaust, and all that good stuff. Let’s talk about transcending the human experience for those of us who don’t know what that is; what exactly is it?
Greg Riley: Most of us, especially in the Western world, are taught that success is based on what we have, what we can get, or what we can attain. The more we try and attain, the further we get away from who we naturally are. So what I’m trying to teach people is that the aspect of trying to get happiness or attain success or attain money, whatever relationship you have to validate your ego to externally push out there and say, look, I’m somewhat successful or worthy, is not necessarily the path to that freedom and joy and happiness that we’re all seeking.
What I try and teach people is your innate nature, which is something that Sydney Banks taught through his three principles process, is who you are, which has everything you are looking for. And so we sort of take people backward on a journey to who they really are. And once they realize that’s who they are, then they can live a different life. And, and I’m not saying people can’t have money and wealth and all that kind of stuff, go for it. There’s no judgment there. It’s just that do it from the right place, not from a place of trying to fulfill some kind of need to validate yourself through your ego to project something that, I’ve got so many followers and so much money and so many cars and so many holidays and it’s all just to prove to something externally, to other people that, that I am somewhat of a worthy person.
Which in itself, if you’re doing that, is based on insecurity. It’s based on inadequacy. You’re further away from who you truly are. So, once people come backward to realize who they truly are, then they don’t have to go anywhere to get happiness. They don’t have to go anywhere to get freedom because they tap into that space, it’s a being space, it’s a place of presence. It’s a place where you just slow down and then open up. From that place you can have all the abundance and all the wealth and the relationships, and connections you want because you’re not trying to validate an insecurity.
Johnny Burke: Okay. And at some point, you did discover that we are eternal beings. What’s the relationship between that knowledge and what we just talked about?
Greg Riley: Everything is an experience. Everything is a relationship. You are a human being relating to everything in life. So by transcending the human experience, you are accessing parts of you and you’re becoming that observer of your human experience, and you’re being able to then, create a life that you desire or be able to, dive into that pain and dive into that abyss and go through that journey of the dark night of the soul. You can actually then experience the joys of, having your third child born and your second child and the marriages, all that stuff. You can go through loss and grief and all that kind of stuff because that is the human experience. And too many times we try and avoid that stuff because it hurts us or it’s painful or something like that.
But the human experience in itself is to go down that path and have that experience and then to realize that, as you said, we are all aspects of the one all having different experiences and different perspectives so it can know itself through us, right? Because too many people are lost in this world of life is happening to me, and then I get to react to it. So someone said something, someone did something, and then the reason why I’m like I am today is because someone did or said something to me. Then I have to react that way. What it is saying is that, no, no, I am the creator of my life. I’m the creator of reality, and reality is a construct of my internal state which is driven by my, , view of the world or what view of my experience here , as a being, right? So, it’s educating people on what is the nature of reality and the nature of consciousness.
Johnny Burke: What are some of the most important things you’ve learned from your journey, experience in the astral, the spiritual realm, and your mediumship?
Greg Riley: You’re never, ever alone. And no matter how dark it gets, no matter how far down the abyss you go, there’s always something or someone there to support you. And, I know for some people it may seem dark and, at times there’s nobody there to support you. But what I’ve realized is that if we open up to it, there’s a very, very massively powerful force behind us there to help us through those dark times, through those challenges, through that adversity.
Because in those moments we find out who we truly are. We find that strength, we can find aspects of ourselves that we wouldn’t normally find if we didn’t have that experience. That in our darkest times comes our light. It’s like the phoenix rising from the ashes, that we can have profound experiences. And on top of that, what matters most in life is, and I can’t remember who said this quote, people don’t remember what they, what you did for them people remember how you made them feel.
Johnny Burke: That’s very true. And one of the things I remember, from many interviews with people that have near-death experiences, when they get to participate in a life review, they’re made to feel how they made other people feel. like it happens almost every single time someone brings that up. You brought channeling earlier, some different beings, and this is a little bit different from mediumship, but you mentioned Merlin Thoth, I think was another. What other type of beings did you experience while you were channeling and how is it different from mediumship?
Greg Riley: There’s different places to connect to, so mediumship is sort of to my left side. Connecting to people who have passed over and channeling is something, over to the right and upper bit where we can actually gather these highly evolved beings; they speak differently, they talk differently, they have different wisdoms. They see a bigger picture as well too. so whereas you, you might be talking to a loved one who’s talking about your day-to-day life and what’s going on and here’s happening there.
Whereas the highly evolved being will go, Greg, you chose to experience this. This is the reason why you experienced this, because this is to help you do this and do this and do this, but you must go through this and this is what you actually called in. You actually called in to be born, you agreed to be born to your parents because of this. Right? That was your choice. And these are the reasons why, because you’re meant to learn this, this, and this and this, right?
If I’m channeling a very highly evolved being, who has been around for eons, he’s not going to come through or she’s not going to come through and talk about what kind of car you’re going to buy. A psychic reading? never worked that way for me. I’ve always been talking about, okay, well why are you going through this experience? Let me help you understand why you are where you are right now and understand that you are the creator of this experience. Rather than, with a lot of psychic readings, people come, okay, well, am I going to be rich and famous? And where’s my soul mate? And all that kind of stuff. They’re very low vibrational questions where if you’re channeling a very highly evolved spirit, that they will delve into the very natures of why you are where you are.
Johnny Burke: That seems to recall some discussions I’ve had with people about soul agreements, right? You chose this life, you chose these parents, and you chose this experience for not only your knowledge and your benefit but maybe for the soul group. So have you had experience in that in-between space where apparently these soul agreements, soul contracts, are actually made?
Greg Riley: I actually did, a session with a lady once – I’m a qualified Michael Newton life between lives therapist. Her child had Down syndrome and I was communicating with these souls in the other realm. And it was actually we agreed for this to happen. I would come down and have Down Syndrome. Because this was about your learning about care and nurturing and all that kind of stuff. She didn’t want to hear about it, but at the end of it, you sort of get to the point where she can go: okay, I can see what I’m learning here.
If I just surrender to the experience I surrender to the place where I stopped trying to look at what’s wrong and what’s not working to look at what am I learning through this experience. And she agreed in the end that she would never have been able to love a child as much as she did if she didn’t have her son the way that he was. She was very grateful for the experience as difficult, and uncomfortable as it was for her and high maintenance as she called it. So ultimately, sometimes we do as you said, we have these soul agreements that are set up for us to be able to learn. Our lives here, like we may be alive for 78, 80 years. There, there, it’s a fraction of what we experience as an energetic being as a soul. Okay. So, um, but yeah, so we, we do have different experiences where we choose our parents
Johnny Burke: It’s amazing, isn’t it?
Greg Riley: Yeah. Yeah. And it’s like, well, what would I be choosing to be brought to an alcoholic father and an abusive mother?
Johnny Burke: because, and this is what I’m told. You don’t get the parents you want, but you do get the parents you need.
Greg Riley: Yeah. Correct.
Johnny Burke: Right? all this implies that there are past lives and that we keep coming back again and again- correct me if I’m wrong, reincarnation is real.
Greg Riley: Yes, yes. If you’re living in the three-dimensional world here, reincarnation is real. But if you’re in the other realm, if you’re in the spirit realm, it’s all happening at once. It’s why you can tap into it, right? Which is why you can actually tap into your future, tap into past lives. It’s infinite reality,infinite universes, infinite versions of you going around having an experience. Right. Time is a construct that we’ve created in this reality. So we can actually have an experience beyond our three-dimensional world. It doesn’t exist.
Johnny Burke: I’ve often had people telling me I don’t believe in past lives because they’re all happening at once. our linear minds can’t wrap our heads around that. But going back to the near-death experience, they say the same thing; over there time doesn’t really exist. It’s really amazing when you look at that whole cycle. So you’ve obviously had experience with past lives one way or the other?
Greg Riley: Yeah, yeah, especially doing the Michael Newton stuff. That’s some pretty profound work there that he put together as far as reincarnation, life between lives, and the Brian Weiss stuff as well too. There’s a lot of people out there who can remember their past lives and go back and you can go and trace some of this stuff and see that they’ve clearly marked out stuff that happened. And they can’t, shouldn’t have known that. Right? So, it is, it is real. But we are never going to convince the people who don’t want to be convinced.
Johnny Burke: That’s true. Maybe they’re just in a place where they’re not ready for it yet.
Greg Riley: Yeah. People are at their evolution exactly where they’re meant to be. That’s part of where they’re at. And there’s nothing wrong with it. There’s nothing right with it. It’s just exactly where they meant to be.
Johnny Burke: . I’ve heard that many times as well. So, with your experience with mediumship, psychic work, what you’re doing right now with your practice and channeling. Raising our vibration is almost omnipresent. The chatter about ascension and going from 3D to five D and waking up, what do you think it means, for our immediate future?
Greg Riley: Things are going to break before they get better. So go backward to go forwards. With every great ascension, there’s always been some kind of breakdown beforehand. And that’s the breakdown of some kind of your view of the world, your view of reality. Because we’re living in a very, very controlled environment right now, especially with what we’re told with all the PSYOPs out there, all the media, all the conditioning look at Covid and what happened there, how we were lining up to get the jab because someone told us it was safe. Now realizing it’s not- all that kinda stuff.
I believe that people have to have their own personal breakdown, , then they can start to evolve in that space. But that requires you to have, I suppose, things in your life get to a point where they’re not working. So you have this realization to break free from the matrix, per se. If people are going along just as happy as Larry, there’s no reason for them to change. So, I believe people will have a crisis of identity. People will have a crisis of what’s working for them. For me, it’s an individual personal kind of revolution, not the other way around where all of society breaks down and collapses and all that kind of thing. I think it’s very much on an individual basis. It’ll start from the ground up and people start to shift individually, which will then shift the collective to a more, heart space kind of space.
Johnny Burke: You mentioned the matrix. The last time this came up. The explanation was there are star beings that are trying to keep us in 3D. And it’s up to us and other star beings that want us to break out and evolve and raise our vibe. Do you agree with that?
Greg Riley: This has happened for eons, this is not the first show. This is not the first rodeo this has happened.
Johnny Burke: Is that accurate then?
Greg Riley: Yeah. Yeah. And look, you’ve got Reptilians, you all that stuff. You’ve got, low vibrational beings here who want to keep us stuck in this energetic frequency here. You’ve got, other beings are trying to assist us in this space, but that’s just the way it happens, that that’s just the play of universe. That’s the duality. Like a coin has to have two sides, hot and cold must exist in the same frequency, right? We have to have that duality for us to have this experience, right? So it’s all part of the game.
The reality is a simulation, it’s a projection of our thoughts. And when our thoughts change, our reality changes. And that’s the real, magic when you start to delve into that, when you take away all the stuff is the reality purely is a projection of our internal state. But to answer your question, yes, yes.
Johnny Burke: It’s up to us then to do our part to collectively raise our vibrations so we can move forward.
Greg Riley: Yeah, at some stage or over the next maybe a hundred-odd years, something like that, people will realize that we are not alone there, we are not the only being in the universe.
You look at the stuff that Stephen Greer is doing now with the disclosure project and all that kind of stuff around UFOs and everything like that. It’s coming out that there are too many things. Look at the Tic Tok video with the F-16 pilot, off the coast of California where you’re just like, that’s evidence from the Navy, right? And some people are saying that this is reverse engineered, this is, humans are flying this stuff. Right. So, I’m sure, there are multiple, multiple different races that we’ve encountered and, are very much a play in this world. Both, trying to keep us here and some trying to help us evolve. It’s a bit like the Star Trek thing. You can’t interfere with the evolution of a race. They need to do it themselves. You can sort of just tap the sides a bit, but we need to do this evolution, by ourselves.
Johnny Burke: I agree. I just wish these star beings would just show themselves and just get it over with. But I guess that’ll be in the next life or maybe the next two lives. I’ll get to see that. And we’ll connect and say. Yeah, you told me this was going to happen, by the way. It’s 2090. Yeah, you were pretty close.
All right, Greg, good stuff. Thanks for joining us today. Very cool information, very entertaining. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online? I.
Greg Riley: they can just go to my website, which is www.gregriley.com .au, or my Instagram, which is Greg Riley Five Dimensions,