Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke and today’s guest is Tamar George. She is a psychic coach, artist and author of several books, including Reborn In Time. Today, we’re going to talk about the misuse of power that began in Atlantis and in her book, she traces how the magic of Atlantis was misused for personal gains throughout history. Tamar, welcome back to the show.
Tamar George: It’s nice to be with you again.
Johnny Burke: Your last episode had a very nice reception. I get the feeling more and more people are warming up to the idea of reincarnation as a lot of people are talking about that these days. So, Atlantis; are we going back to the past or are we going back to the future? How did you remember lives going back that far?
Tamar George: I seemed to be encoded within my memory, of that lifetime. When I started writing about it, I was there, and I could only write for like 20 minutes a day because it was so intense. It was like I was in Atlantis, living out the story and listening to my guides at the same time, and 20 minutes I was done because psychic ability gets you exhausted. So, I really believe I was downloaded with the information before I even came here. I remember.
Johnny Burke: The curious person, is going to ask questions like,” okay. Atlantis: first of all, how long ago was it? Was it 10,000 years ago? 20,000? and, and what was it like? What did the people look like? What did they sound like?
Tamar George: the agreement online is that Atlantis sunk between 12 to 10,000 years ago. And so when I tell you that it lasted 20 million years.
Johnny Burke: oh,
Tamar George: I it’s really going to bring up a lot of doubt because this planet has been around for a long time. So let’s just imagine, we don’t have to believe it because there’s nothing you can prove at all. Let’s just say there were a group of beings that decided this beautiful earth needed to be populated. So they came from Sirius Venus, and the Pleiades -that information is out there.
Johnny Burke: This is the first time I’ve interviewed someone that actually talked about the origins; I’m not really sure what you would call those people.
#89 Tamar George: Well, we’re all star beings, you know? So we talked the last time about having many multiple lives in other dimensions in other places, because we are multi-dimensional. So we have eternity to do this in. So 20 million years in eternity is a blink. It really is. So we are always out exploring other places; we’re creators.
So we came here to create, and we did a great job of it when we first got here, because we remembered our connection to source. We didn’t know how to misuse power. So legends talk about, from the Hopi to all over the planet, that there was a time that there was a paradise on earth, a golden age. They all talk about their motherland sinking, but these are stories are told by ancient bards, by reciter priests. And they claimed a time when their Kings were from the one true blood.
Johnny Burke: What is the one true blood?
Tamar George: Being from the stars and them being from Atlantis.
Johnny Burke: I can’t help but think it’s a very good idea for a band name, ‘one true blood playing at the Roxy this week’. I I’ve never heard that before.
Tamar George: Well, while I’m on that subject, the Egyptians, their pharaohs were from the one true blood. That’s why they intermarried. That’s why they were honored as the pharaohs. So they were trying to keep that one true bloodline alive.
Johnny Burke: So Tamar, did you have multiple lifetimes on Atlantis and maybe in other lands as well, or?
Tamar George: The one I write about in the book was just one particular lifetime, but yes, I’ve had many lifetimes there. And I remembered one.
Johnny Burke: And you’re saying the timeline stretches back to almost infinity, is what you’re saying?
Tamar George: Seems like it.
Johnny Burke: I think anything’s possible- well, within reason anyway. In this one particular incarnation, can you describe what the people look like? What kind of clothes did they wear? Did they speak a language that we’ve never heard before?
Tamar George: The original Atlanteans were very albino looking. Their skin was translucent. You could like see the blood work in the skin. They had white hair, and really, really intense blue eyes. I’m not saying that this was a superior race by any means as we know of racism right now. It’s just the way they looked, and they were six feet too. So they were very tall. I can’t imagine translucent skin would be that gorgeous. So I just want to put that out there.
Johnny Burke: That is interesting. I never heard that.
Tamar George: What we wore was, we would literally be looking like Romans. We would wrap a sheet around us and then we would have a shoulder piece, and then we would have a Cape. Each color of the Cape -different colors of the different capes meant where your service was. Because the Atlanteans were in service to one another and to all that is, you know, the Law of One, the law of one love. We were in service. So it was a very beautiful, magnificent life. Now, the language, I’m not sure; my brain probably couldn’t interpret it, but the names that I was getting were very Greek sounding. So that was really interesting.
Johnny Burke: So What kind of magic was used? Were there lasers or things based on crystals? How did that work?
Tamar George: Well, at that time in those different groups, there were called, magicians basically. And they would come together with group thought and they would create and fuse crystal together. Then these particular crystals could be morphed into anything that a ship or a flight ship or, then they would be solar powered. They were very, very advanced to using the earth energy. So the earth energy. It definitely has geomagnetic energy from the planet. And then the galactic magnetic energy coming towards the planet was creating a way to really manifest with. Plus the lay lines. You’ve heard of lay lines around the planet? Like energy grids. So you also had that energy. So with thought, with the belief, with the trust, with all of that energy, boom! You could really create something.
Johnny Burke: Now, what you’re describing is that similar to what other people have described as a 5 D, or fifth density civilization where their consciousness was advanced, their technology was advanced, and they just had abilities that obviously we, in the present day do not have.
Tamar George: Yes.
Johnny Burke: Telepathy was common?
Tamar George: Yes. Yes. There wasn’t a lot of fear. So you didn’t need this whole language that we associate with fear and a language that is power over others.
Johnny Burke: Interesting point. I’ve heard people talk on the show about the great year cycle, great year concept where consciousness goes up and down in cycles. And apparently, I think what you’re about to explain has something to do with not just the fall of Atlantis, but basically the peak of consciousness. Then it goes into somewhat of a dark age. Am I right?
Tamar George: Yes. So what happened with the Atlanteans is over that time period, things just got corrupted. People were forgetting what their source connection was and they were getting more ingrained into the earth. What they started to do was use the crystals against one another, or to have power and control over one another. When I say the great city of Atlantis sunk 10 to 12,000 years ago, that’s not that long ago.
Johnny Burke: Not really. And we’ve heard obviously lots of different theories about where Atlantis was. Do you know like where it was located?
Tamar George: I do. When I say this, remember that there are a lot of people with a lot of different theories. I’m not even going to say that their theory is wrong because Atlantis had outposts, and sister cities in those areas. Yes, it was an outpost. It was a sister city. It was a satellite, but the mainland that the city was in was called Thula and that is where we know England, Scotland and Ireland are.
Johnny Burke: Cool. I like that. Just to digress, just a tiny bit. There’s a show on the Gaia network, I believe his name is Matt DeStefano and, he has actually two different series about Atlantis; have you ever seen that?
Tamar George: I know who he is. I have not actually watched the whole series.
Johnny Burke: Okay. That’s probably discussion for a different day, but apparently, he remembers lifetimes and he actually goes into detail about what some of these lands and civilizations were named. Like Lemuria- according to him are actually even older than Atlantis. So tell us more about the magic and how it began to be misused.
Tamar George: Well with that misuse of crystal and the actual sinking, the Atlanteans had moved out from the city for thousands of years. And they went to settle in the different outposts, which would be the Mayans. The Aztecs, the Egyptians, and around the world where many of these satellite cities were. When we look at this, we realize that the technology was very similar. The way they created their buildings, the way they painted their buildings, their astrology, their priests, their king. There were all these similarities within each of these civilizations and yet they weren’t supposed to have any connection with each other.
Johnny Burke: Right. How did they have similar-looking pyramids in different outposts, maybe literally around the planet? It’s a bit hard to explain that. And apparently, their technology was very, very advanced. we’re not even close to that- I don’t think …
Tamar George: Right. So early on, they were the teachers, they went out on their crystal ships and taught at the different outposts.
Johnny Burke: Did you actually say crystal ships?
Tamar George: I did.
Johnny Burke: Do you think that maybe Jim Morrison had some past life memories or encoding as it were? what are your thoughts?
Tamar George: Well, I believe people just say things or think things and they don’t remember why, the concrete knowledge of where it’s coming from. So of course.
Johnny Burke: Crystal Ships. It’s actually a very good song.
Tamar George: Crystal Ships
Johnny Burke: Yeah. and speaking of which, you have some memories of the early sea people in the travel, but before we get to that, I wanted to ask you about the helicopter hieroglyphs, I believe it’s a carving in a temple. The one I’m thinking of has two men that have these rods, and it seems like there’s this giant rock above them. Is that the same thing or is it something different?
Tamar George: This is in the temple in Abydos on this ceiling, because I saw it . Type in helicopter hieroglyphs they will all see it.
Johnny Burke: Now. That’s an example of 5 D or fifth density abilities because the legend is that the pyramids were built with some sort of defining rods. It wasn’t just like manual blood and sweat labor. Am I right?
Tamar George: Well, again, there is lots of theories on that and, and through time, I’m sure that the different techniques changed, but I happen to believe it was sound. You can do a lot with sound. You can destroy stuff with sound.
Johnny Burke: So it’s a certain type of frequency?
#89 Tamar George: So yes, you can also build things with sound.
So, these hieroglyphs, they call helicopter hieroglyphs because there is an image that looks exactly like a helicopter. There are other images that look straight out of Star Wars, and the things that we see are friends in Star Wars flying around on. So it’s fascinating. Now the experts-the Egyptologists say, there are broken hieroglyphs. You know what? The Egyptians never created broken hieroglyphs.
Johnny Burke: Just so our listeners know this, what is a broken hieroglyph?
Tamar George: They were saying that somehow, they were destroyed or the images were not, the way they should have been. They were making all kinds of excuses because they didn’t know what it was, but the Egyptians were recording their past their history. They remember.
Johnny Burke: speaking of remembering, do you remember seeing flying machines in Egypt or Atlantis for that matter?
Tamar George: No. When I was there, I was going about my daily work. my service to others trying to have that higher consciousness. I don’t know if it was in a different time period. I think it was more towards the end of Atlantis that my story was happening before the fall.
Johnny Burke: What do you know about the sea people and sea travel?
Tamar George: when I was in the temple of Abydos and the guide was showing me with a flashlight on the ceiling, the actual helicopter hieroglyph, there was also a hieroglyph of sea people that traveled around the world. More history that the Egyptians were recording. I think this was probably the later Atlanteans that were moving out and moving around the world. Now, when I was in the Canary Islands, I got to go to the Thor Heyerdahl Museum and see the reed ships. The reed ships are made out of reeds. They’re like straw tied together and they could float on the oceans on the Gulf stream for about three months before they sunk. So they were traveling all around the world way before, history has pointed out that we were actually traveling.
Johnny Burke: So, what else can you tell us about the early civilizations? Like Atlantis from things that you remember?
Tamar George: Well, Atlantis had a pyramid and it also had temples, to set the temples rotating in a circle around the pyramid. Those temples were dedicated to science to what they considered was their philosophy, their magic, and all the things that they needed in daily life. These temples looked very much like they do in Greece. So I really believe that the Greeks are definitely a memory or a satellite city of Atlantis. There was,a shipping port. It was on a horseshoe, a cove. If you look around the world, there are a lot of cities built on like a Cove, a horseshoe, so that it could easily be traveled in and out by ships.
Some of them lived in the mountains, the Hills, like Anastasi Indians. So they actually had ladders and Hilltop houses. Back to Greece, if you’ve ever been to Santorini, and you see the white stucco houses built, somebody’s porch is somebody’s roof and on and up, and they built like that. They’re still doing that.
Johnny Burke: So what you’re saying is that’s ancient architecture. They had buildings that were similar.
Tamar George: Yes. Yes. Or they originated those buildings and later on, people replicated them. And I bet you, they replicated them from memory because, if you were many lifetimes in Atlantis, you remembered.
Johnny Burke: So how did the fall actually transpire? What were the events that preceded, that period?
Tamar George: Well, it was definitely the power over others. I think that really is our theme because we’re seeing that around the world right now. ‘ I want power over you so I can control you’. That way I’ll have what I want, need desire, whatever. And it was the same sort of thing, except they used something as crystal, and I don’t have a brain for how they would create some kind of destruction out of that.
It blew up and the great cities sunk, but not all of the rest of the land because we still have England. We still have Scotland. Scotland by the way, is built on huge quartz crystal. When I was there, the light was shining out of the earth. As an artist, a painter, I was just fascinated with this light. And my friend said,” well, we’re standing on pure quartz” and I go,” oh my gosh, “that’s it. It’s just being reflected down and coming and being reflected right back up again.
Johnny Burke: What can we learn from this story going forward?
Tamar George: Yeah. I ask me that question, because what happened was, we did go into the dark ages. The grid around the planet was shifted and it really was, you’re not going to have the power to create like you did, or you will destroy this planet. So we were plunged into the dark ages. And all the different satellite cities, the Aztecs, the Mayans, and Egyptians were trying to recreate that magic. They were desperate to recreate it, but they just weren’t making a go of it. So then it morphed into people having superstition, they were creating magical tokens. Like the priest in Egypt, you had to pay them for their prayer or their token, whatever they were going to give you. So a lot of what they were figuring out was working is they still could create weather conditions. If they had a drought, they were realizing if they put a pregnant person in a field, their crops would grow better. Now what’s that about? Like energy attracts like energy, thoughts or things.
Johnny Burke: Thoughts or things.
Tamar George: Yeah, so we create what’s positive. We also create what’s negative. So then they thought, well, if one is good, well, if the king wants life, then like the Aztecs, let’s kill all of these people. And at one time they killed like 20,000 people. So that life would continue and they would have the good stuff. It got totally out of control.
Johnny Burke: So a shift in consciousness going from service, serving others to service of self; greed, avarice, all those not very good things, basically plunged our consciousness into a downturn. Almost like we’re looking at a stock market graph where things like telepathy and other sensibilities just basically disappeared. That’s what it sounds like.
Tamar George: It did and then groups of people decided how they could have control over us, and that was through politics and religion. And when we watch the news today or read a newspaper or go online and figure out what’s going on in the world, same stuff.
Johnny Burke: You had other lifetimes, I think in Egypt and maybe one has a Celt. Did you tend to remember any of the past lives- let’s say like you had a past life in Egypt? Were you aware of past lives before, like in Atlantis?
Tamar George: I don’t believe so. No, not at all. In fact, I believe I know more about Atlantis now than when I lived there.
Johnny Burke: Really?
Tamar George: Yeah. When you think about it, there’s so much more consciousness or knowing, or intellect or a broader picture on things that if you and I looked back on this lifetime in the future, we would know a whole lot more about that time period.
Johnny Burke: Good point. I’m just curious about the living quarters, the dwellings, did it look primitive? Like the interiors, what did the floors look like and the furniture and that type of thing? What did you use for lighting? Do you remember any of that?
Tamar George: Well, I think a lot of it was solar, but when I saw the buildings, everything was pristine. Especially the temples were gorgeous. We had a temple by the sea and the water was just astounding because Atlantis was more downward toward the Canary Islands. There were water fountains, there was foliage, as far as floors, I don’t remember, seeing much detail to that other than this is stone. It was more natural, more Frank Lloyd Wright.
Johnny Burke: Really? Okay. I know that you paint, did you ever try to recreate any scenes from your life then
Tamar George: Yes, a bunch of. them.
Johnny Burke: That’s definitely something I’d like to see. Do you think we can ever get back to the point where we’re living in an advanced society in terms of consciousness, not just technology. Do you think we’ll see that in our lifetime, or probably not?
Tamar George: I see that there’s going to be a rough period here for a while, but in 2012, the grid shifted back. So in Atlantis, the grid was shifted to not having any power, but in 2012, we, as light workers said, we will be responsible for this power, give us one more chance. And there was enough of us that said that in different events, one was the 11 11. These were events where I called them pieces of the puzzle, held all over the world with different light workers. So that consciousness of the light workers is raised and hopefully, everybody is living love.
But the grid has shifted, and this is why we’re seeing such a downfall; the end of the patriarchy. Because now we have to come into unity and the Aquarian Age was always the promise of unity. It was always the promise of that power that glory time, that golden age will be back. Atlantis is back. It has risen through the people here doing the work, living love, having a higher consciousness.
Johnny Burke: it’s just that we might not see it in this lifetime. I’ve had people tell me that in 2012 something changed; it wasn’t the end of the world. It was, like you say, the beginning of a shift.
Is there anything else that you want to talk about regarding the ancient civilizations?
Tamar George: Just, I think that we need to learn from history. I really think that history repeats itself and we’re doing that in the United States right now, where we’re reliving things that we thought were finished and complete. So what can we learn from history on what not to do, and why not to do it? And what really is the benefit of living love?
Johnny Burke: I think you said it -with a conscious shift that was 10 years ago, but I guess you have to start someplace. Hopefully, as a civilization, we will get back to that and not make the same mistakes as we did before. What else can you say?
Tamar George: Live love, and we are responsible for everything. That’s a problem because there is karma. So we get that karma back when we are not responsible for being the most loving kind, just caring compassionate individuals.
Johnny Burke: I would agree, but there seems to be an awful lot of fear and hatred and bad stuff happening now. Hopefully this is, the storm before the calm.
Tamar George: So the energy here is a do-over. Look at what’s going on, astrologically; its mind-blowing this energy is coming into the planet for this do-over. That’s the basis of what I wanted to get across is I’m so hopeful we are going to make it through this. We can’t get discouraged and we can just individually learn how to live love. That’s the key.
Johnny Burke: I agree. That’s what I’m hearing from other intuitives as well, and that’s a good note to end on. Tamar, thanks again for joining us. How can our listeners learn more about you online?
#89 Tamar George: they can find at http://www.tamargeorge.com, And I have the first podcast up on my site. So if anybody wants to listen to that, and when this goes up, I’ll put it on there.