Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Joanna Walden. She is a life coach, transformation specialist, and author of the Inside Hustle, A Mystical Misfits Travel Adventure Into The Unknown. In this episode, we’ll talk about Joanna’s personal extraordinary experiences that have influenced her development and shaped her life into what she has become today. Joanna, welcome to the program.
Joanna Walden: Thank you for having me. Johnny
Johnny Burke: Mystical Misfits Travel Adventure sounds an awful lot like an album title. Were you a, a musician at one point?
Joanna Walden: No, I was not, but I wish dreaming,
Johnny Burke: I might have to steal that. Though. That’s pretty crafty. I really like that. So you work now as , a multi-dimensional transformation specialist. I’ve heard the term transformation specialist before, but not so much the multi-dimensional part. So what exactly is that?
Joanna Walden: Well, essentially I take people from one state of being to another. We really are able to address all of our states of being, mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual, and everything is energy, right? So we’ve got to go into the energy first. And so I work in the multidimensional space, so I bring through, information and wisdom from an expanded part of myself that is not Joanna, the personality, but is guided by an expanded field of my consciousness that I’m accessing. It’s multi-dimensional in that respect, but also, we work multi-dimensional with my clients and the people I’m doing group work with. We’re using sound light, sacred geometry, and weaving the energetic space as well at the same time to facilitate changes on all levels of someone’s being in a really holistic 360-degree way.
Johnny Burke: You mentioned multi-dimensional. Does that have anything to do with 3D to five D or is it something completely different?
Joanna Walden: I believe it’s different the multi-dimensional is slightly different to this idea of 3D versus 5D, and that’s a really linear human construct that’s been created. I don’t even think it’s really all that relevant, even though everyone’s talking about moving to 5D and feeling like they’re moving into a different land and it’s not how it works, right?
These are different levels of consciousness, and I think that’s the way that on a human level, we’ve had to describe it, so to speak, but it’s not really what it means. And I think when you really get into it, this is energetic sensitivity and being able to perceive beyond, just the physicality of this reality really is all that means. 3D versus five D is a bit of like these coined terms that are being thrown around at the moment and like, “oh, I’m in 5D. Oh, that’s not very 3d. There’s all this judgment and all sorts.
Johnny Burke: Not very 5D right ?
Joanna Walden: Right! “Oh, that’s so not 5D.” It’s just hilarious because that defeats the whole purpose of what this is all about, which is really moving out of these states of judgment into acceptance, compassion, into, a heart understanding on a deeper level of the wisdom of ourselves beyond this physical incarnation into that multi-dimensional space where we are actually accessing parts of ourself that been all across the cosmos in different lives, timelines, all of that is part of the multidimensional space, right? It’s accessing the bigger imprint that we all carry as energetic beings, not just this incarnation.
Johnny Burke: It’s interesting the way you described that which sounds very much like what I’ve heard before; moving out of the 3D and into the 5D where you lose the judgment. It’s more of like a group consciousness, right?
Joanna Walden: Yeah.
Johnny Burke: Rather than me against the world or me against you. Or some kind of minus-sum or zero-sum type mentality. You mentioned really a lot of things, multi-dimensionality, sacred geometry, multiple dimensions, and some other things that I’m not even aware of. How did you actually start to discover that these things in this space actually exist?
Joanna Walden: Well, I always had a fascination from my childhood. My mom was quite open-minded. She was into the latest rebirthing class, and she was into a sort of serving us tofu casserole and at that stage in the eighties, she was exploring all these things, which back then was quite more basic than what we are all doing now. But she was very much inclined in the space of consciousness and energy, and so, therefore, I even though my dad was not that way inclined,
I definitely grew up in an environment where that was around. I just knew there was always something more.
There were certain things that started to happen, but I was always just very curious. So when I did open myself up to that when things started like I saw an aura when I was about 17 or something. I’d have these premonition visions when I was a youngster that actually saved me from getting into trouble.
Things like that started to happen and I really understood there is this other part that I know deep within myself, it’s just taking a little bit for it to reveal itself to me. And so then I just sort of pursued that even more in the background in the spiritual closet while I was doing my development in life and then getting into the corporate world and as is the case with many stories, I’m sure.
Johnny Burke: Like many of us do. Premonitions and auras; I know that we discussed this briefly the last time we spoke. What actually was the very first mystical experience? I imagine it was one of the two, right?
Joanna Walden: It was a premonition, I believe, when I was quite young, about 15 or 16. This was a bit naughty, but we were going to buy some weed at what we call it, tinny House in New Zealand. I was exploring like a teenager and we’re not allowed to do these kinds of things, so, of course, we’re doing it.
And you can get your license here when you’re about 15. So we were driving in a car to this to this place, and I got a flash of police sirens, flashing lights, and I said, “wait, we’ve got to go the other way.” And so we went the back way where we could see the street from another angle. And sure enough, that was there, that scene that I’d seen in my mind’s eye. So it was like a flash, so I was like, “oh, wow, cool. You know, save myself from the cops!”
Johnny Burke: Excellent.
Joanna Walden: Very handy! Practical use of spirituality right there. Yeah.
Johnny Burke: I’ve heard quite a few experiences just like that. They always happen when the speaker talks about their experience “when I was 17, 16.” And has to do with, well, there’s one experience in particular, where I interviewed someone and she talked about how she’s at a high school party drinking in Santa Barbara and she actually had a vision of the cops coming around the corner, which no one could see, right. There’s no way anybody could see that. And her friends looked at her like she was crazy. About a minute later they came up. And so she was able to keep her friends from getting arrested, but she was also treated as an outcast, as a result.
Joanna Walden: Right.
Johnny Burke: Did you experience anything like that when your abilities began to manifest themselves? Or was that not really an issue?
Joanna Walden: Not really. I think more than anything there’s that general like, oh, it’s so woo woo mentality, there’s that kind of thing that even that’s more in my later years because everyone is so attached to their perceived constructs of reality and what has accepted constructs of reality that they want to put it in a basket of sort of oh, that’s just that stuff. Woo woo stuff over there. When I started stepping into this even more, there was the actual, bit of judgment, sort of dismissal,
I guess when you’re in the spiritual closet, no one else really knows anyways. Right, they can’t say anything. makes sense.
Johnny Burke: Very true. You did mention, along with sacred geometry, multi-dimensionality. I believe you made, a reference to other planets; have you had past life memories?
Joanna Walden: I’ve definitely experienced past life memories in a way.
So when I was in Egypt, for example, the sounds and everything around me felt so familiar. It was like I was at home perfectly. And then it sort of expanded from there because people recognized me, they didn’t recognize me from meeting in this life. They said, “do you recognize me? Do you remember me from 3000 years ago,?” I was like, no,
Johnny Burke: No, they didn’t say that did they?
Joanna Walden: They did!
Johnny Burke: I want to make sure I get some clarity on this. Someone approached you when you were in Egypt, and actually asked a question, do you remember me from 3000 years ago?
Joanna Walden: Exactly that/
Johnny Burke: Yes. I remember we raided the Pharaoh’s tomb and some other stuff. Yeah, of course – you had to think this person’s a nutter! who would do that?
Joanna Walden: It’s really interesting because where it happened was the area of Akhenaten and Nefertiti – the area that they were ruling, I’d interestingly had a dream with these earrings that had a woman Egypt face on them. And I didn’t know for years what that was, what it was related to, but it was the dream, and I was in a very significant place at the time, and I then realized when I was.
I had an experience in the priest tomb of Akhenaten, and I just was in tears. There was just this emotion and the connection with what was painted, the drawings, and just the energetics of the place. And then as we were leaving, I saw the picture of Nefertiti and I was like, oh my God, she was who was on the earrings. So there were all these sorts of connections to that. And that’s when the guy said to me, do you remember me? I know you from 3000 years ago, and I didn’t know what to say.
Johnny Burke: I’m not sure what happened next. What was your response?
Joanna Walden: I didn’t really know what to say. I was so surprised, I was just sort of shocked in awe and no, I didn’t, obviously, I didn’t. I looked at him again but when I went into the sacred area, I was having, all of these emotions and connections coming up, and so there were ties that way and recognition of the land and recognition of the space.
Johnny Burke: But not so much like explicit, detailed visions of flashbacks of another life, or did you have that?
Joanna Walden: Not there, but I did have that when I was recovering from a spiritual surgery in Brazil. In my dreams, I was back in World War I, I was a man, I was in the war and that was definitely a flashback of me, for sure. That was processing I believe, what was going on directly related to the spiritual surgery I had and obviously what wounding I was carrying and what patterns I was carrying from were connected to that life.
Johnny Burke: So a memory of yourself as a man, a different sex. That just occurred to me the other day. I thought, okay, it could be imagination, but how do you really discern whether it’s a product of your imagination or it’s something more than that? How do you do that?
Joanna Walden: There’s a knowing that goes along with it that is just innate. But imagination is the access point to all of this. You have to allow yourself to go there into this space where it is unfamiliar and you actually can’t energetically connect with anything in your imagination that isn’t a possibility within the time-space continuum. Really when you get into the quantum physics of it. So it’s interesting because imagination is definitely a gateway. It’s also a superpower. And so if you start to use that more, you just automatically access it. It’s like that’s on the same frequency in a way, as all of these extraordinary experiences one can have.
If you don’t allow yourself to go into your imagination at all, and you’ll just sit in the ways of what you can see or experience with your physical senses in this version of reality, then you’re not going to be able to get there because you’re not going to be able to operate outside of it. So you need the imagination, and I don’t think you could ever really prove anything as wrong or right, or as an experience, because it’s each individual to the self, and it doesn’t need to necessarily be one way or the other for it to be valid in any way. We are all perceiving so differently through our unique structure, which is very different from person to person as to how we perceive, see, and interact with energetics.
Johnny Burke: Energetics frequency, sacred geometry and now that you mentioned Egypt, I believe there are theories that have to do with energy centers and grids and it seems like all of these things; is a connection there or is that not necessarily so?
Joanna Walden: Definitely. I mean, sacred geometry is the foundation of building blocks of life itself energetically. That often comes through when we are wanting to shift and change ourselves, because you’ve got to start with the energy first, right? At one point I had to look up a word the other day because it was a tesseract, which is actually a hyperdimensional geometry. I didn’t even know that Hyperdimensional geometry was a thing, let alone existed I had to Google it, because I hear it and then I have to look it up to. Are you sure? am I hearing the right thing here? And then sure enough hyper endometrial geometry!
There’s a whole space of understanding. that we aren’t even really accessing. It’s because we come in in this form of limitation to perceive, to have this experience of this reality in a certain way. If we were accessing everything that we have the ability to all at once, we would blow out- we would just like short circuit because it’s too much. We have so much information within us, and we are just remembering and utilizing the parts that are relevant for us at this time on the planet and why we came to be here. So different things are going to resonate to different people or make sense or just have that deep knowing of like the experiential part of it that’s really a part of us operating our own divine technology to be able to show up as we need to on this planet right now.
Johnny Burke: Divine technology. I like that. I’m definitely going to use that phrase as much as I can. It’s very good. You just mentioned a reason why we are here. How do we know that and how did you get insight into when that moment comes or even what to look for?
Joanna Walden: Well, interestingly, a funny thing happened to me when I was 17 or 18, I think I was illegal in a bar, so I was probably 17 and I went to pick up some friends of mine, and it was a bar on the other side of town, it was very unusual for me to be there. But as soon as I got there, I was really drawn to these two gentlemen who were sitting at the end of the bar. At the time, I smoked cigarettes and I had a lighter in my pocket, but I went up to one of them and I said,” do you have a lighter?” he said, “I’ve been waiting for you to come and talk to me.” and I said, ” Oh, right. ” And then he proceeded to just literally offload this whole thing about me, why I was here, a bigger purpose to my life that I had come for a very specific reason on the planet. I can’t recall the exact words but I remember feeling so elated and excited because I knew deep inside that’s what was going on.
I just hadn’t been told it yet, and so it almost gave me permission to explore even further. And also just to some comfort in knowing that there was something going to be happening in my life that would be for the purpose of good on the planet that I was really here. He talked about shifting consciousness on the planet and helping people usher, throw a time of change in transition.
He was pulling stuff out of my back. He was some Reiki Master, but I don’t even know if he was a real person now. I mean, it could have been just some being, showing up and I really don’t know. And I remember saying at the end to him” will I ever see you again?” and he said, “no. If you got what you needed to, you will never see me again. “And then it was done.
Johnny Burke: Wow. All right. Let’s talk about the inside hustle a bit. I know that you had a significant experience in Brazil, I believe it was at a healing center, and it involved a trance channel, you actually saw this happen, right?
Joanna Walden: There were so many things that I saw happen in that place. It’s a spiritual healing center, which is not unusual for Brazil. There’s many of them around, and these trance channel mediums do psychic surgeries on people, but they’re essentially channeling doctors, saints, spirits that work through them to help people. That would happen in the form of either anonphysical surgery or a physical surgery. People, either way, would be put under spiritual anesthetic and then have these surgeries. So I saw live on stage people getting sliced open, tumors being removed. No drugs, no operating room
Johnny Burke: No anesthesia?
Joanna Walden: No, but spiritual anesthesia and I had had an experience of that myself. So I opted for a nonphysical. You basically go up to the trance channel. He writes a prescription and tells you what to do. There’s a handful of recommendations. So one of them would be, have a surgery- so you can have the nonphysical or the physical.
So I had the non-physical one and as I was going through the line to get ushered into the room, and it was just sort of like a church-like area with pews. Everyone sits down, they do some prayers. He comes in and, you are feeling woozy.
You’re feeling like you’ve taken drugs like some kind of medication. I felt pricks and prodding and stabbing and electrical shocks within my body while that was happening. And then after maybe 20 minutes or so, you were released to leave. And I remember when we walked out the door, it was like you could barely kind of walk. You have to follow post-care surgery instructions as you had been in a hospital. When I got home, I looked in the mirror and my pupils were as big as saucers I was so high on this spiritual anesthetic, I couldn’t believe it.
When that wore off hours later. So I was pain-free at that point. But when it wore off, then I started to really feel the pain of what had been done and the spiritual surgery within me. So I had the physical representation of the work that had been done that was pretty profound. I wouldn’t have believed it had I not experienced it myself, to be honest.
Johnny Burke: What part of Brazil was this?
Joanna Walden: An hour and a half out of the capital of Brazil. So it’s kind of in the wild West. It looks a little bit like Australia. There’s not a lot there apart from this tiny town that’s dedicated to this healing center. It’s like you go into a higher frequency dimension. So everything there is synchronicity, it’s like you get exactly what you needed. You’re literally living in a different frequency, and it’s built on a crystal vortex where the rivers run through it. There were so many crazy weird things that happened there, besides just the weird surgeries and stuff.
Johnny Burke: Those surgeries, physical or psychic, it’s pretty crazy. it wouldn’t shock me if there were pockets of the planet where maybe the frequency is higher. I’ve heard people talk about past lives and ancient civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuria- which is supposed to be even older, where a lot of these things were normal. Telepathy was normal.
Joanna Walden: Oh yeah.
Johnny Burke: Telekinesis and loads of other things were very commonplace.
So you actually believe that there are communities, maybe civilizations where they are all in a different frequency?
Joanna Walden: Well, I think there’s the ability for everybody to access that where they’re there., whether they’re doing that or not, it’s not like everybody’s living in this different frequency, although they may be, everyone’s in their own unique experience, right? They’re in their own holographic reality. So what I can access is different to what someone else is accessing. it’s set up for the ability to be able to step into something like that and have these experiences in a higher, potentiality than the norm.
Johnny Burke: You’ve traveled in South America, you were in Argentina as well. Was this during like a sojourn or a trip of some sort?
Joanna Walden: It was, yeah, on the hunt for more experiences to write about, which became my book, so
Johnny Burke: You had an experience in Argentina. I don’t want to provide a spoiler. So, pretty significant. why don’t you tell us about that?
Joanna Walden: Okay, so quite synchronistically I went on a hike one day and it was quite long and more involved than we anticipated. So we ended up calling in at what looked like a farmhouse, but they were obviously into something kind of spiritual because there were these sacred geometry signs on the outside, on the sign. But we needed to get home. We needed a taxi, and we were running out of light. So we just went in there and sure enough, we met Hugo, the 83-year-old Shaman who communes quite regularly with light beings. He’s got all these photos on the wall of all these light beings, objects, experiences, and he brings people to the land, and he actually communes with spaceships, and ETs a few times a week regularly. We popped in there obviously to get him to call a taxi and were into a whole other experience, obviously, which was totally up my alley.
I was like, this is amazing. And so I kept in touch with him, and we organized to go to have a chakra rebalance with him and meet some of his friends who were actually ufologists
So he did a chakra balance and when we were with the ufologists, we went up the mountain a little bit and they took me through this experience where you sing your name into the mountain so that the crystal in the mountain remembers your imprint and your uh vibration. Then you can sort of set up to go and experience these beings apparently which are housed within this mountain,
I unfortunately never got to go for that experience. But what did happen is we saw a spaceship on the way home, which was a light in the sky this was not in a flight path and we’d been calling for this experience. As we were coming down the mountain, this light sort of sped up and came in and started going very slowly in front of us at a height that was not really where a plane would be flying anyway, and right by the mountain.
The ufologists are very excited because they’ve seen this many times obviously. Whereas for me it was my first time. So then they high-fived me after it sped off again at like sort of light speed. They’re high-fiving me saying, oh you’ve seen your first nav, which is ship in Spanish. So that was my experience of calling in that kind of energy and for it to appear and having that experience of physically seeing something that is not normal behavior for a star, satellite or any of those things, it just doesn’t, doesn’t work like that.
Johnny Burke: So crystals are maybe not a hundred percent woo-woo after all. The legend has it crystals have had special powers in situations for thousands of years. You gave a good description of the speed and the altitude of this ship; what did it look like?
Joanna Walden: Well, it looked slightly different than a star, so a slightly different color, but it is a light in the sky, essentially.
Johnny Burke: The shape, flying saucer?
Joanna Walden: No because you can only see the light because it’s dark.
Johnny Burke: Okay.
Joanna Walden: You can’t really make anything out apart from a bulbous light in the sky that is behaving very differently to any other light I’ve ever seen in the sky before.
Johnny Burke: You made a reference to light beings. I’ve heard them called beings of light, but I think this might be different than these star beings. Did you meet any beings like that, or did you see any beings?
Joanna Walden: I did not. I was quite disappointed because I went and stayed with Hugo, the 83-year-old Shaman even though my Spanish was terrible. Stayed with him for four days because he communed with the ETs, and I was really hoping for a bit more of an experience with him. And then we were supposed to also go to visit these beings within the earth, but that didn’t happen for various reasons.
I get a lot of information in my dreams. I get guides showing me multidimensional experiences and training me, and I also get light beings showing up with delivering information. I also go on ships in my dreams and experience light beings giving me different technology to hear them better and all sorts of stuff. I have a lot of that, which is very visceral. It’s not just a sort of made-up dream. It feels different than that. That’s how I have been interacting with that realm. And then I feel different energies come in even though I don’t necessarily see them, although sometimes I can see a little bit of an aura, but I’m sort of retraining myself to have the more visceral, physical experience of it as well.
Johnny Burke: Everybody wants to know what did they look like? But you’re saying in the dreams, the light beings; it’s not like you can see a person standing 10 feet away. It’s nothing like that. Also, you mentioned, I believe spirit guides.
Is that within the same realm or is that a different experience where they give you guidance and give you knowledge drops or
Joanna Walden: It’s pretty much the same thing in my mind. They all inhabit a different dimensional reality, and they show up for us as an expanded part of our consciousness, essentially. We are just tuning into that part and accessing information from it, but they show up as someone different for us to be able to sort of interpret that and have the experience of it in a visceral way. I think that’s just the way it is, and many people also experience it all slightly differently,
I think the guidance really comes from an expanded part of our field. The perception is it’s outside of us or it’s a guide, or what have you, but innate within us anyway.
Johnny Burke: So you mentioned outside of us. It’s not outside of us. It’s all part of the same consciousness,
Joanna Walden: Yeah, because everything’s a part of source energy, so we’re just accessing different parts of it, and our unique representation of that. We are informed by what we hold as an aspect of source consciousness, and we all bring it through slightly differently.
Johnny Burke: It reminds me of what someone told me her quarrel with conventional religions like Catholicism is that it tells us about a God outside of us. She says that’s not correct. Everything is inside.
Joanna Walden: Absolutely. That’s why I called it the Inside Hustle!
Johnny Burke: Well, now we know!
Joanna Walden: Yeah, that’s right. Right? Because it’s not, everyone is absolutely conditioned to look for everything outside of us to try and fulfill certain parts that we feel are missing or to sort of recalibrate ourselves by going outside. But that’s actually not the way energy works at all. You’ve got to recalibrate that or be building that energy or frequency within you first to be able to experience it in the outer reality. That’s a lot of the work I do with clients is to help step them through that process to be able to do that for themselves.
Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that more and more;going outside of us is not the answer. The answer is to go within.
Joanna Walden: Absolutely.
Johnny Burke: I don’t completely comprehend it yet, but it seems to be that is the consensus- at least so far. You do work with light and sound and something called heart technology. Tell us a little bit about that
Joanna Walden: Well, in 2017, as I said, I get a lot of information and experiences via my dream state or in that lucid state where I’m between waking and dreaming. And this particular evening, three giant light beings, probably the biggest light beings I’ve ever seen showed up. And I was sitting in a seat saying, what about this ancient meditation technique. And they said no. I said, but what about this healing modality? And they said, no. And then they said to me, it is always about the heart. It only ever was about the heart, and it will only ever be about the heart. It is all about heart technology. Heart technology is all you need. It is the most relevant and effective tool on the planet right now.
I woke and I Googled heart technology and I got a bunch of cardiac equipment. That was just no good at all. I was like, heart technology?? But what it did is it sent me on a vision quest essentially, where I was sort of guided to reveal what this actually means because they’re talking about the space of the heart as being a multi-dimensional technology it can access the past and future, and make even shifts in corrections in timelines. It can be used for visioning and creation. It can be used to unlock innate gifts and abilities. It can be used for us to access the wisdom that we hold that is beyond this incarnation. Many, many, many things, but it’s our zero-point space which is the point of everything and nothing, the point of the inception of creation itself. So that is a really, really powerful space for us to work with.
And whether we are conscious of it or unconscious of it, we are actually doing it often when we are naturally creating as humans. the heart technology is that’s essentially what it is, and it’s become a foundation of my work because it’s so more powerful and effective for everyone when they’re in that space and connected.
Johnny Burke: Heart technology seems to be a part of energy healing. Energy healing is a smaller part of what shamanism is. Is there a connection there or is it more of like an adjacent?
Joanna Walden: I think shamanism is a perspective, right? It is like a modality. It’s a form of understanding. Whereas heart technology is a technology that we all have within each and every one of us and you’re probably using it some of the time. If you dial deeper into it, it becomes more powerful, obviously, because you’re conscious of it and you can use it in a more powerful way. But I don’t think any of it is necessarily mutually exclusive. It’s all fundamental, but it’s quite foundational, I believe, within our technology as we start to understand our human technology really, like in all of its aspect, and not just the body, or not just the mind, or not just the emotional, but getting into it in a much more, 360 degree or multi-dimensional way really.
Johnny Burke: I ask that question because I’m seeing a surge in energy healers and they just seem to be everywhere before. I think what maybe preceded that slightly was there was a medium explosion. There’s psychics and mediums, they’re just appearing all over the place. Some of them are actually pretty good, but maybe not all of them. That’s probably a discussion for another day. But do you think the energy healers are part of that intuitive blossoming or growth? Or what do you suppose that is?
Joanna Walden: Absolutely. We are really coming back into. understanding of ourselves as energy beings, which is the truth of who we are. We have been conditioned and programmed into a different understanding in this reality, just because we’ve been through the dark ages essentially, and we’ve forgotten it all, and we are remembering these aspects of ourselves. We are remembering what true healing is. We are remembering that just because you’ve got a backache doesn’t necessarily mean it’s got anything to do with your back. It just doesn’t. they operate in polarity; they operate in everything being one mechanism that is holistic and everything ties together and is connected.
it’s undoing a lot of that programming and coming back to what is true and real. And so absolutely this explosion and expansion of everything in related to the whole field of energy, spirit, and consciousness is definitely playing a part in that. And it’s obviously expanding in all sorts of different ways depending on where people are at and what they’re interested in and what stage of their journey.
Johnny Burke: So is there anything else you’d like our listeners to know?
Joanna Walden: Well, to the point that you were talking about before, this is the most powerful place that we can all be inhabiting today is the place where we are not taking on anything from anything that’s gone before, because everything on this planet, including all the belief systems, including science, including everything that we make as the building blocks of how we understand this reality has come from a different time and perspective, and it’s been based in a different level of consciousness. That is a layer of conditioning, which means that it’s informing our ability to tap into ourselves and what is going on in that inner level within us. And sometimes we can’t see any of that when we are too busy operating under the framework of what’s in existence already.
If there was one thing, I was going to say to everybody, it’s to step outside of that.
You don’t necessarily need to train in anything. If you really feel called to something, it might be part of your journey. Yes, but you are actually here to really tap into what your unique energetic blueprint is here to reveal, to show up as your most magnificent self, right? The most powerful being you can be and no matter what that is, it doesn’t mean like being a world leader or anything.
It could be just running a beautiful community garden at your home, that other people enjoy that are your friends. It’s nothing to do with the scale of it or any of that, but for people to really tap into that feeling of fulfillment and what they’re really here to do, I really encourage just to tune out all of that noise, tune out any other learnings or modalities or anything that’s gone before, give yourself a clean slate to start with and see what comes then.
You can’t get into that space of tapping into the most extraordinary parts of yourself if you’re operating out of preexisting frameworks that have been handed to you by someone else or something else, or this current society. And when we really want to make leaps and bounds and you really want to kind of go places and open yourself up beyond, that’s the way to do it.
Johnny Burke: So, in other words, hit the reset button. I like that. Excellent, Thanks for joining us today. Very, very cool information. Very entertaining as well, especially the inside Hustle. how can our listeners find you online?
Joanna Walden: Yeah, they can find me at my website, http://www.Joannawalden.com , and the Inside Hustle is on all of the platforms, audiobooks, and Amazon and all that jazz.