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#75 Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Channeling Ascended Masters

June 25, 2022 by Johnny Burke

#ascendedmasters, #Buddha, #channeling, #jesus, #lightworker, #mediumship, #mothermary, #reiki, #treeoflife, #wayshower

May 6th, 2022

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Mary Elizabeth Jackson. She is a children’s writer, special needs advocate, and empath. Today, we are going to talk about channeling, what it is, and what kind of beings people like you and me can channel. Mary, welcome to the program.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Hi, Johnny. Thanks for having me on.

Johnny Burke: The channeling topic is quite interesting because it not only takes in spirits, but also beings from other worlds. Does it not.?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Yes. it really depends on, who is the channeler and who they decide they want to connect with or is their focus. I don’t know if you follow Abraham Hicks or not, but she practiced for nine months every day before her channel was really open for her to realize, and then start the work that she’s been doing over the last 20, 30, 40 years. It’s been a really long time she’s been doing all this. I think for some people it happens very easily.

I know people who channel multiple beings. I know people who think they’re channeling aliens and beings from different universes or solar systems. That’s not my cup of tea or anything that I do. How do you and I know what the truth is, really, if it’s happening to someone else? we’re not having their experience. So, they channel aliens and beings from other universes or solar systems or planets, ancient beings, ancient, ascended masters. Sometimes you’ll find somebody who only channels one being, and that’s all they do. So I think it really depends on the channel or the medium themselves or it’s what shows up for them.

Johnny Burke: Since you brought up mediums, I’ve talked to many people that speak with spirit, many claim to be able to speak with Jesus on I guess on a telepathic level. Some have actually said they have seen him in the flesh. What is the difference between someone who is able to communicate with spirit, communicate with passed loved ones was who have gone to the side, and those that are actually channeling? Is it similar, or is there a very grey area that separates them?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: That’s a really good question. I think that for a medium or a channel, it’s a very different feeling. With channeling, maybe a being that’s passed on is ancient, as opposed to somebody like a loved one. So I think there’s a different feel to the energy that comes in. If you and I were having a session or you were having a session with somebody who does that for a living or their loved one just passed, maybe this loved one was a very angry person. That experience would be very different because there might be a lot of anger, emotion, and feelings involved in the information that was coming through.

Johnny Burke: I think you mentioned before that you and I, or anybody for that matter, do we really know the truth when someone says” I’m channeling this and speaking with spirit? “Well, of course not. And I get that question literally every single day. My answer is always the same: I don’t know, it’s not really my job to judge, whether this is the truth or not. This is what people bring forth. And speaking of bringing forth, when I think of mediums, I also think of shamans. When I think of channeling. It seems to be more in the camp of the shamanistic rites and the shamanistic type of communication because it’s ancient. It has to do with summoning energies and so on. Is there a connection there?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Yeah, that’s a good question too. It can be any of those varieties. Just like healing can come in any different shape or form. You can go to a Reiki healer who does a Reiki-type healing. You might go to somebody who just them speaking words to you invokes some sort of healing within you. A shaman is going to have more ritualistic type of things they’re doing. I know a shaman, I’ve been in the tent and I’ve done the sweat lodge and all the drumming and the oils and things like that.

I think it’s for whatever format it comes for in the individual. For instance, my mother, when we’re together and we go into meditation, she’s got a pendulum that she uses. So she has a pendulum and it’s not really a crystal. It’s actually a piece of jewelry. It’s an animal and when she goes into that space, her head goes down and her eyes are almost closed, yet I know she’s still present. Now she doesn’t do what some channelers do. Some channelers that I have experienced, their whole voice changes when they are channeling one or two or a hundred beings, they’ll call them a collective if there’s more than one person or being they’re channeling. We need to keep that word being because they’re really not in a human form anymore.

Every person’s experience is different. I have heard stories of people like that who go through these traumatic events, maybe they have a near-death experience, they almost die, and they come back. Like that happened for my mother. My mother died when I was five or six years old. She just had a toe surgery, and she had a reaction to the medication, and she fell and hit her head on a countertop. And then, she was hovering over her body she has the whole experience, not of a tunnel with white light. Hers was on a train going very fast toward a light. And then the train stopped suddenly and she got off and there was Jesus standing there with all these people on the hill and he was teaching and she talks about the colors being more vibrant than anything we ever see here on our planet

Johnny Burke: During the NDE, the near-death experience ?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Yeah. This is what was happening for my mom. Yes. So Jesus was teaching and something about children came up and then she said” oh my children, they need me” I was probably five or six years old, seven at the time. And he said,’ yes, my child, it’s not your time to go.” And then he touched her forehead. The next thing she knew, she was hovering over her body in the hospital. But for her, that opened something up for her. So I think that happens to a lot of people.

I had some very profound experiences just recently going through COVID and being so sick and on the brink of not knowing that I was going to live or die. So it changed for me some of the ways that I’m living my life now and the way I’ve looking at my life in knowing that there has to be more dedicated time to my spiritual life. I have to pull some things off the plate and make more space because if we’re busy, that information or channeling or whatever you’re doing, it can’t come through because there’s too much noise going on- too much action, too much friction. Sometimes it doesn’t have to have that. Maybe you’re walking in somewhere and you hear the words that somebody is going to say to you before it happens. Or you see a situation before it happens or you go,” Hey, Joe Joe’s going to call me right now.” and it’s just coming out of the ethers.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard of it, it’s never happened to me, but I know exactly what you’re talking about.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Yeah, it happens to my kids actually. Everyone’s healing is different, and the way people receive information is different. Also, we’re all different learners and somebody may be an auditory learner, and someone may be a visual learner.

Johnny Burke: I think there might be a connection between someone being spiritual and being able to channel, but sometimes they’re connected that way because often spiritual practices have to do with quieting the mind. So even if someone is not religious, if they are very good at meditation or something they do to quiet the mind, that puts them in a better place to receive.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Absolutely. You have to be still in quiet really to get some of that information or answers. I think once you’re tuned in then that information can just be free-flowing for you because it’s sort of like the other side says, “okay, you’re an open channel you’re willing to receive.” It can be just as simple as, you know someone’s going to call you before they do.

Johnny Burke: I’m sure there’s people that are able to do that and they think it’s not really that big of a deal. Maybe it isn’t.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: I find it fascinating every time it happens. For me when it happens, it’s like a validation that all of that world exists instead of you thinking, does it really? Am I making this up? You know what I mean? So it’s sort of that validation. It’s also training for trusting your intuition and your own inner guidance system.

Johnny Burke: Is it a fair statement that in order to be a channel one does not necessarily have to be religious? They have to do something to quiet the mind to be a receiver. If they’re involved in those kinds of practices, there probably is some kind of a spiritual bent, but it’s not required.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: I don’t think it’s required at all. I know channelers and mediums who believe in a bigger, higher power of the universe, they don’t necessarily believe in religion. Some of them don’t go to church., some that I know do go to church. There’s such a difference between religion and spiritual wisdom, so that’s always an interesting question.

Johnny Burke: It is. It does tend to blur the lines of distinction between a medium and a channel, because the more we talk about this, I can see where some people would say they’re essentially the same thing. The medium is essentially a conduit. When you think of a conduit, and you think of a channel, I’m thinking of electric wires and pipes and stuff like that, and it seems to me, channel, conduits- they seem to be very similar.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: They do, if you think about a metal rod that’s on the sand at the beach and that lightning strikes and that electricity conduits through that and then creates glass. A lot of mediums will allow the energy of the person who’s passed to come into their body. And that’s a little different than channeling, because it sort of takes over the body as opposed to channeling, as being kind of like an open radio frequency where you receive messages, they come in, you hear them. They’re not coming from you because you didn’t think of it. So that doesn’t take over your body. You don’t take on the personality. Say your uncle Jim died and you came to me and said, “Hey, can we have my uncle come in so I could talk to him?”. So maybe I go into whatever my trance is, or my getting ready to do my work and call that person in. then all of a sudden, I’m talking like some 50 years smoking Newport person -and I’m a woman. Do you know? So, this is a little different than just receiving messages about things.

Johnny Burke: I remember not too long ago, I interviewed a woman, Gates McKibbin, who received messages where she was told by spirit to write. And she wrote three books about a group of people. It was centered around a couple. It was a love story that basically spans thousands of years because this group, the soul group kept reincarnating over and over again.

What she told me was, she would receive the messages. She’d write it down, but afterward she didn’t remember any of it. She would look at it as if it was written by someone else, which I thought was really interesting. Let’s talk about entities that have been channeled and entities that you have channeled. So which one do you want to talk about first?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: I want to back up for a second because that is something that I do. Automatic writing is what it’s called. It’s where you surrender to being that conduit for that flow to come through. So we are creative beings on this planet. All of us are creative. I don’t care if you can’t draw a stick figure, there is some way in the world that you are creative. So if you think about being that conduit and surrendering to the words that come through you. If you want to try this, then just do a minute a day, do five minutes a day and work yourself up to because anyone can do this.

If I’m doing automatic writing, I sit and I ground and connect myself with the earth and I just release all judgment and ego. Then I’m like, okay, let me be a conduit for constructive information to flow through. Then I began writing and sometimes it’s sort of like an out-of-body experience. There are a lot of times I go back and go, “wow, did I really write this? “No. Spirit wrote it, your higher self or whatever you were tuned into.

When we’re talking about channeling, you have light energy. So your light energy is going to be at a higher vibration. That’s God and your higher spirit and Jesus and Mary. You’re heavier, denser slower vibrational energy is going to be what we would consider more negative energy. if you’re talking about beings that come from other planets and things like that, I know a couple of really famous people who do this kind of stuff. It’s interesting to me that when they claim to be channeling these beings from other planets and universes, they’re hearing it in our language as far as I know. That’s an interesting question. Isn’t it?

Johnny Burke: Right. It is, because how else would they understand them if they weren’t in speaking in English? Maybe these beings have like a plugin or something that says like, “well, I’m visiting Johnny Burke in South Florida, I’m going to use the English plugin.” I don’t know. I’m not quite sure how they would do that, but why don’t we do this? Let’s talk about some of the beings that you have channeled, or you are currently channeling, and then we’ll talk about some other types that we know of. We’ll focus on your experiences first.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: For as long as I can remember, I have had three very profound ascended masters who are with me and then a guiding mother of light I called her, and then a very ancient being. Three of the people who are with me most of the time are Jesus, Mary, and Buddha. When I go into meditation and sit at the tree of life and have conversations, those are the three that always show up for me. It’s very fascinating.

Johnny Burke: How do you know it’s Jesus and Mother Mary and or whoever?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: And Buddha. Yes- that’s a good question because I can only talk from my own experience. So I guess I’ve been doing it so long that I recognize them and the way they look to me, but it’s the way of being an empath, it’s their energy that I feel. It’s funny when I am in meditation and they’re there with me, Buddha does not say a whole lot. He usually just kind of nods his head to things that Jesus had Mary say, but he will sometimes say things very profound. Mary and Jesus, both of them- it’s very important to them that we all learn how to love ourselves where we are in our life- no past, no present, just where you are in the moment and to forgive others. It’s that same thing from the very beginning of us knowing about Jesus and Mother Mary and the teachings. It’s that kindness forgiveness, and compassion and to remember those and live by. That’s what will heal what we’re going through right now.

I had vision that was given to me a couple of years ago with Jesus. This was before the pandemic. What he showed me was lights all over the planet. Then there are those of us who are wayshowers, there’s lightworkers. At some point, each of us was handed information. We’ve got that information inside of us to help others remember what they already really know to be that better version of themselves. All of these lights, it’s sometime in the future. All of the lights on the planet will all come together, and I can see this visual very, very clearly. And I’ve had other people verify that have gotten the same vision.

Johnny Burke: Like all the lights are on. Everything’s connected. Is that what that possibly means?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: It’s that all of those lightworkers and wayshowers, the more lights that are turned on, instead of it being spread out all over the planet, we will converge together. When more than one person prays for someone that’s so much more power, much more powerful than just one person. So if you have a group of like-minded beings or people on this planet who are walking in peace and their energy is pushing that out there in the world, they’re sharing light and love and kindness and respect and forgiveness. Compassion is one of the highest vibrational energies there is

Johnny Burke: On that. note, I couldn’t help but notice, interviewing people on Closer to Venus, there’s been quite a few people that openly profess their love for Jesus. Most of them are not even religious. Some will even go as far as to say, “the Bibles is junk, throw it out the window. There’s so much stuff in it, it makes it almost too much work to really find the truth of divine love.” But I thought that was very interesting; that seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon. Why do you suppose that’s happening now? Does that have something to do with the vision of the lights coming together or …

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Yeah. There are more people waking up, look at the pandemic if it hasn’t turned them toward God, because I don’t know if churches are filling up. I always thought during the pandemic, churches would be filling up with people; what do we, do help us, how do we change this? How do we save the world? But people are learning how to be in the moment with what the really important things are in life. And then they are somehow being introduced or connected to wayshowers and lightworkers.

There’s a lot of the stuff out there I don’t listen to, I don’t read the books. I don’t talk to those people. I have to go on what my experiences are and being an empath cause we’re a planet of duality. There is a judgment on that- I understand. But if you walk into a room of people and you get kind of like the heebie-jeebies about someone, it doesn’t mean it’s judgment. It means that it’s an awareness that maybe that person is not vibrating at the same vibration as you. And it might cause a little friction or may not be the best for you. So you need to self-care and maybe go sit with someone else that feels better to you. It’s a vibe,

Johnny Burke: It’s a vibe. You could be at the gym, or a coffee shop and you might feel like talking to some person or group of people, but you just don’t get that friendly vibe and start to think, “is it my imagination? probably not.”

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Am I being judgemental?

Johnny Burke: Or you see your neighbor and you want to say hi, but they’re like trying to avoid as many people as possible and always saying hello when they really need to, which I guess it’s just the way they are. You haven’t had experiences with beings from other star systems and planets and so forth.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Not that I know of, not that I know of or attuned into. Now in my dreams I have, but not sitting there, going into meditation. I have not. But in my dreams. Since I was as young as I can remember always seeking the truth about God. It was like something that drove me as a child. I think when you’re channeling, it’s a discernment thing too. What feels safe or good. A good vibe. Like you’re saying, for you to talk to her channel, unless you want to channel some evil being,

Johnny Burke: Which is exactly what I wanted to ask you about. I know that many mediums set the boundaries- setting boundaries against any dark spirits or whatever you want to call them. I honestly don’t even want to talk about it, but I know it exists. So when you channel, when people channel, is it a practice where they have to do the same thing to kind of set the boundaries so they don’t run afoul of any spirits that might not have their best interests in mind?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Everyone I know does that. You do an opening and a close in whatever fashion that you do it in. When I’m at the end, I seal everything with God’s light. What’s yours is yours. What’s mine is mine and our session is complete. There are boundaries everywhere. We have physical boundaries; we have energetic boundaries. There’s a lot of work I’ve had to do with clearing the space of my home. I’ve had to learn about those protected boundaries for myself because of being so sensitive. So yes, you do have to set those perimeters for yourself that, the only light is here, only higher vibration may enter. My home is a temple for God. Those are some of those protective boundaries that people I know do, as well as myself.

Johnny Burke: So for someone that is interested in learning how to do this, how to channel, where do they start?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: They need to start with practicing getting quiet every day. Even if it’s for a minute to quiet the brain because we’re so used to being on go all the time and tuned into technology, which has made our brains more ADD than they were before. You’ve got to get your brain to calm down so you can focus. You need to get very quiet and ask to be a channel, to receive information, constructive information, positive information, that kind of thing. I would keep a journal and write what your experiences are. If you have a question, write it down and then get really quiet and center yourself, go into your heart space, right there where your heart is and see if an answer comes to you.

What I’ve noticed since having COVID, every single day that I’m doing this I’m seeing the results I’m seeing come from it in the place that it’s allowing me to be. It’s helping my body heal. It’s helping me to stay in more of a place of groundedness and peace. So it’s worth putting that time in.

Johnny Burke: I think it can also eliminate any kind of negative connotation with someone calling themselves a medium. They can be a channel and not even talk about it., unless do it as a practice, as a channel or as a Reiki healer, which I’m hearing an awful lot about Reiki healers these days as well.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: They’re amazing. Absolutely amazing.

Johnny Burke: It actually does seem to be a safe entry into the world of the intuitives, because it’s like going to a chiropractor or something as opposed to going to a medium; some people are probably afraid to even admit they do that because their friends might ridicule them.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: Or make it seem like it’s evil. Jesus did say to me, he was handing down his teachings, his lessons, and his want for us to talk about him and teach the ways because now in the time we’re in, no one will be persecuted like he was in the days that he was alive. He was persecuted for his beliefs because it went against the system, but now we have a collective whole. People all over our planet who are looking for peace and calm and forgiveness and people getting along and the world being a better place.

Johnny Burke: Hopefully compassion will eventually be the new cool. I’ll leave you with this. In one of my recent interviews, about a woman who communicates with Jesus. Like you, she seems completely normal. She doesn’t have 15 different color braids and doesn’t live in the Amazon Forest.

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: I don’t live in a hut somewhere. We go to church. My kids are in Christian school. I’ve been on PTA. I did it for 10 years, blah, blah, blah. You know,

Johnny Burke: Right. And had to ask, I said,” so how did you begin communicating with Jesus?” And she said,” well, I didn’t know it was him at first, but I figured it out later. But the first time appeared to me, he looked like a 20 something guy, a young dude with Tivas on.” Well, that sounds like someone who’s on his way to a Pearl Jam concert or something. And he was very snarky. He had a sense of humor, which I thought was really interesting.

So Mary, thanks for joining us today. Really, really cool stuff and definitely good advice for someone who wants to learn about channeling. How can our listeners find out more about you online?

Mary Elizabeth Jackson: You can go to www.maryejackson.com. I have two online shows, those are focused on writers and special needs.

#71 Patty Lennon: Make Space For Magic

May 28, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Spiritual Development

#brainscience, #divinelove, #energyhealer, #lawofattraction, #makespaceformagic, #manifestation, #pattylennon, #reiki, #shamanichealing, #thereceivingschool

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Patty Lennon. She is a certified coach author of “Make Space For Magic” and founder of “The Receiving School. Today, we will be talking about how she blends brain science and metaphysics to help fellow humans manifest their dreams. Patty, welcome to the show.

Patty Lennon: Thank you for having me.

Johnny Burke: Very interesting background. you have a master’s in psychology and spent time as a corporate banker. How did that morph into the current path you’re on now?

Patty Lennon: Well, I left college. I had intended to go into public law. doing public defender work with an intention of going up and becoming a politician. In my final year of college, I worked in the public defender’s office and my love affair with our justice system broke my heart. When I started to understand the way it actually operated. I realized it wasn’t a place that I could participate in. So I left college without a plan and it was a terrible job market. So I got a temp job at a bank, and while I was there trying to figure out who I was going to be, I grew into a career, and I was there for 15 years.

So I kind of fell into something that I loved. but towards the end of that career, I started to really want more meaning in what I was doing, which led me to start to mentor in a more focused way some of the team and the people that worked around me. While I was doing that, I realized there was a lot going on in their minds that was affecting their performance and their ability to succeed. And I wanted to understand it better. So I started for a master’s in psychology while I was at the bank and the bank was kind enough to pay for it. The banking industry started to implode, and I had already decided that that was what I wanted to do full time. And so when the banking industry stopped really paying for that kind of work in-house, I went out on my own. Coaching was just becoming a thing back then.

So I got a coaching certification and through that journey, I felt like I was finally sort of following the path that I think the divine wanted for me. I just got into much more spiritual teachings and learning about manifestation. As I stepped into that world, there was a lot that just didn’t jive with what I knew to be true from a brain science standpoint. A lot of what I was learning in the manifestation world, although it was helpful, it was missing things. It wasn’t really built for all people. It was built for one type of person who is tended to be a more privileged person. really felt then that it was important for me to start focusing on how to translate techniques in the spiritual world that I was learning so that more people could use them.

Johnny Burke: Very interesting path, indeed. You mentioned brain science and I’m pretty sure that your intuitive gifts, you didn’t really discover them until your thirties, right? 34 35?

Patty Lennon: Yes. That was pretty wild. So there I was a type a banker and then I I left banking, but still with that type ‘A’ personality in place. But as I was working through my coaching training, I was exposed to people who had a lot more, what I would call that Woo- woo bent. And the more time I spent around them, the more I open to these ideas of the other side of the veil and how we communicate.

I was out in a retreat in the desert with some of the coaches I was learning with. And all of a sudden, I just started to know things and It just came out of the blue. I didn’t have this history where, oh, yes. I used to be able to see dead people when I was young, but people criticize me, so I stopped doing it. That became really important to me that people understand that, this idea that we have about how gifts work are really limited to a few, and that there really is an opportunity for all of us to have access to these heightened senses, these other sensory experiences of the universe and combining the brain science.

So understanding what was happening in the brain makes it easier for someone to hear this information or see this information, what needs to happen in someone’s real-life to open up to these gifts. That became a big focus of mine about three or four years into my journey with these gifts. I asked my guides once, “why did I not have access to these gifts? Why would you just open them up at 35?” And they told me that was a choice you made, you wanted to know fundamentally what it felt like to live in the world without that because that knowledge would be necessary for you to be able to teach others who feel the same way, how to transition into their day.

Johnny Burke: Now that what you just said seems to indicate that was a choice you made in between incarnations- before you actually came into this world. Is that correct or is that off base?

Patty Lennon: That’s correct.

Johnny Burke: Do you suppose a lot of people that are in the corporate world do struggle with that grind and think, “well, what about the spiritual side? Is that something I should learn about?” Or is that not necessarily true?

Patty Lennon: Most people I know in the corporate space or in an institutionalized space., whether it’s Academia or even the nonprofit sector, as much as they do good in the world. I do see that a lot of people have an ache inside of them. And I think they express it if you’re not what I call woo or “woo- curious”. So like, woo- curious is kind of like, “Hmm, that looks interesting, like maybe they get a tarot reading once in a while kind of thing, but they’re not really there.

Johnny Burke: I noticed that you studied with shamanic practitioners also. What prompted you to study with them in the first place? ,

Patty Lennon: part of, it was just an evolution, what I was learning. Some of the teachers that I was learning through like through the Hicks team, Esther Hicks, and what she does with the law of attraction and how she channels. What she and Jerry Hicks did is a very robust, very authentic experience. But there are others out there that were teaching the felt like they were teaching to pop culture. And I started to crave learning that felt a little more grounded. And the more I reached for that, it was really teachers that came up through their gifts, and came up through their teaching through a lineage.

At first, I worked with someone who was teaching Reiki and Reiki work then kind of opened me up to more of these indigenous cultures and the gifts that they bring to Western culture now. So things that just had that deep history, felt more real to me. Even though I’m away from that type ‘A’ personality, I’m still very pragmatic and I want to know the roots of something. Another part was that I found out that I had fractured my spine, when I was a child and it was never known the fracture was there, and the way the doctors describe it, it was a ticking time bomb. I found myself drawn into the shamanic healing world to help with that because Western medicine could only go so far. And so part of it was just doing my own healing work.

Johnny Burke: the Reiki, seems to be like a non-threatening, introduction to energy healing. It’s almost like going to a massage therapist, but from there you connected the dots and say Reiki, has its roots in shamanism, which is thousands of years old. so how important is the energy healing part? how does that inform your work?

Patty Lennon: Oh, that’s such a good question. I think how it informs my work is that why? I believe I am the way I am, why I chose the life I did and why I’ve come to work in the way that I’ve come is because of. my purpose is to help others understand how much they’re loved by the divine .To understand that the playing field is fair and that, a lot of where we experience disparity or unfairness going back to my justice days is because we have a lot of wounds that we acquired through being human. In order to, make that space for someone to feel the divine love that’s available to them, or to talk to the other side of the veil requires being able to heal some things that aren’t wounds on the skin’ They are wounds in the energetic body, wounds in the psyche. A piece of it I can help them with, and when I can’t, I like to know where they can go next to get that healing.

Johnny Burke: We have brain science, manifestation, and metaphysics. What is the brain science behind manifestation? And then how is that different from blending brain science with metaphysics?

Patty Lennon: Excellent question. So the brain science behind manifestation is understanding that manifestation. in its essence, is to have a desire and to have that desire met in a way that doesn’t involve a simple human effort. Meaning,you can desire something and know you just don’t have the ability to make it happen just exclusively on your own. And then yet miracles happen every day. Right? And so manifestation is the arrival of something in the material world that happens on the energetic level, more than it happens on the human effort. So anytime we have a desire, that desire begins to be met by the universe, by the divine, if it’s for our highest good.

So when we have a desire and we ask for it simply by knowing we desire it, the universe of the divine starts to make that manifest. But if it doesn’t actually cross over the door from non-reality from energy into our reality, it is because we’re holding the door closed, and where we hold that door closed is in our mind, our mind controls that energy field.

And if it doesn’t feel safe to receive, it will not allow the manifestations. Okay. And so what that means is we need to make sure our brain is operating in a place where it feels safe and loved. And that’s where brain science comes in. What gets us into a place of fear and the amygdala, which is the center of the fear brain. That’s what generates all those fear thoughts, and always feels like it’s fighting off saber tooth tigers. You need to understand how to reprogram it and to have an open, receptive field. So that’s where that connection is.

Johnny Burke: The question about the brain science behind manifestation is that it sounds similar to blending brain science with metaphysics. You mentioned divine love earlier; when did you discover that? And, did that come first, or was that discovered along the way?

Patty Lennon: My youngest memory is that I want it to be a missionary from when I was little and the reason was I was raised Irish Catholic, so missionary work was really the only context I had when I was small, the idea that there were people out in the world that didn’t understand that God loved them, broke my heart. All I wanted to do was make sure that they knew that. So that piece of it has been with me. From the very beginning, when I even wanted to go into public defender work, it was because of the idea that there are people in our system that aren’t taking care of the same way, others are felt horrible to me.

That was the reason why I wanted to go the public defender route rather than the district attorney route. Even in banking, I would always try and make sure that everyone understood how to get a proper footing inside the bank. Like how do you get yourself up to higher levels if that’s what you want, how do you get promoted? I always came at it from understanding, Like here’s how to make the playing field fair for you. And I don’t think I was as conscious of the divine love in that part of my life, because it was my twenties and I was partying and I was focused on succeeding and drinking and doing all that.

Johnny Burke: like everybody else at that age and even beyond that.

Patty Lennon: Then when I did step into this world, I realized always what was holding people back is the misunderstanding that they were unsafe. .

Johnny Burke: So how does all this figure in the metaphysical world or the quantum realm.

Patty Lennon: Well, the quantum realm– all the team that we have right outside, beyond the field that we’re used to playing in this 3d, sometimes people think it’s 4 D out, beyond that there’s this entire team that we can work with and interact with. There are universal forces. But if your mind feels the only way can be safe is what it controls and what it figures out. And this is what happens when we’re traumatized at young ages where we are left, feeling unsafe at different points because we don’t receive the full safety and security ever. Every single human does not receive all the safety and support they need from the older humans around them.

We start to develop misunderstandings. We attach our relationship with the divine or the universe with the relationship of the humans that we’re supposed to take care of us. So relying on them at some point was unsafe, relying on the quantum field, interacting with things that are outside of your human control feels unsafe. So how you blend these two is, you start to watch the thoughts. You do the work to open up the mind to being supported. Some of the magic flows in, some of the manifestations flow in, but then you get blocked again Then now it’s time to go back to my mind, to go back to the amygdala, and then it’s just this constant massaging and moving and interacting.

but once you start to really have an inherent faith in this divine love or this universal love, that’s when you can trust the team. And that’s when you can hear the subtle language that they speak to you with. But when the amygdala is super noisy, it’s very hard to hear the language that the other side of the veil people, spirit team are talking to you.

Johnny Burke: if I understand this, you’re making allusions to spirit guides, angels, those type of things beyond the veil. that part of the brain that you just mentioned, that’s what you meant when you said the brain hijacks our intuitive gifts and keeps us from getting the help from our spirit friends. It’s a very interesting approach. I’ve never heard that before, but I think it, could be very helpful. So let’s talk about make space for magic and there’s also the receiving school, but I think it seems to me that to discuss make space for magic would be appropriate to discuss first

Patty Lennon: Yes, absolutely.

Johnny Burke: All right.

Patty Lennon: From a concept standpoint, the book Make Space For Magic, I developed it originally with a goal of just telling my story of going from this type ‘A’ person to now having access to regular communication with the other side of the veil, both for myself and on behalf of my clients. I wanted people to see the dips in my journey. That they involved drinking a lot when I was in my twenties, that they involved making disappointing choices, that they involved me questioning my ability to parent a kid. There are a lot of things that happen in people’s day-to-day lives that I think make them feel not special enough to have gifts. That if you’re someone that has gifts, you sort of float through life, you are always in love, in a loving, compassionate relationship with others, and it’s not the case.

The original goal of the book was just to tell the story. But the more I taught it from stages and more, I told the stories. I saw the people really had a craving for how do I make space for this magic to come in? How do I do it in my mind? But also what are the functional things I can do in my day-to-day life that actually allow me to interact with the other side of the veil, in a different way so that things are coming easier so I can rest more. So I feel like less of a failure just because I’m not perfect. And that’s essentially what making space for magic is..

Johnny Burke: it starts to make more sense when we talk about the receiving school, because, we’re talking about spirit guides and angels and our friends beyond the veil. I’ve been told, every single one of us has spirit guides literally from day one, everybody. So is the receiving school a manual for showing us how to take it in, how to receive love from our spirit guide friends?

Patty Lennon: Yes. And it’s an experiential program in that it gives you ways to interact with your life to start to notice where your resistance is because what happens is people know, ” I’m not good at receiving”. If you’re not good at receiving even compliments or help from a friend, I guarantee you the exact same block is why you can’t receive communication from the other side of the veil. What is happening in the brain to cause that block is the same. So you can be working in any part of your life to lower your resistance and open up to receiving and affect all the areas.

The receiving school is different than a course you would take where it’s telling you how to do things. And it actually just shows you how to interact with your day-to-day life so that it reveals your blocks to you. You’re not doing worksheets to try and find the block. You’re actually just going to go about your regular day and do this one thing differently. And all of a sudden that one little thing each week reveals a huge block. And then you get the pieces of the puzzle on how to release the blocks. At the beginning of the program, we’re focused almost exclusively on the material world, letting in money, love, and support. Then as we get towards the end of the program, where there’s more opportunity for you to see those blocks and release them in very tangible ways, that’s when we work on opening up to receiving communication.

Johnny Burke: Your work has a lot to do with blending traditional psychology and like to use the word metaphysical rather than spiritual because metaphysical has to do with, a way of understanding things. Whereas spiritual is more of an actual practice And I’ve heard this many, many times before where the word spiritual tends to be overused and the brand is actually watered down. If you go on to iTunes spiritual podcasts, a lot of them are just celebrities giving advice, which doesn’t have a whole lot to do with spirituality, does it? So can we assume then that what you’re doing is basically a blend of psychology and the metaphysical, or is that not quite a good enough description?

Patty Lennon: No, I think that’s completely accurate. Metaphysics leave space for you to have an opinion that the source;the universe is either neutral or benevolent. Now I personally believe it’s benevolent. But there’s a lot of people who that doesn’t match with what they know to be true in the world. Right. And so what I teach can be used, whether you believe the divine is benevolent or neutral.

Johnny Burke: It’s a very interesting point, but it does leave room for that opinion. So while we’re speaking about the divine your path, your discovery of your intuition. How has that colored, or shaped your beliefs and religion? Has it changed, or is it pretty much the same as it’s always been?

Patty Lennon: In some ways it’s, released me from a lot of guilt, like a feeling like you have to do certain practices to be good inside the scope of your relationship to God, source, whatever word you want to use. So, because I communicate with the other side, so fluidly, I know there are lots of ways to be in that relationship. I also know that the divine source wants nothing other than an intimate relationship with us. It wants our truth, whatever that is, as ugly or as angry, or as rage-filled or as beautiful, or as hopeful as it is, it wants simply intimacy, honesty. that is the part that shifted my relationship to religion or spirituality the most. Although I was raised, even though I was Irish Catholic, most of the people that influenced me to believe that God was good.

There was a lot of guilt in the way I was raised. And I know a lot of people were raised with that guilt and the communication from the other side, makes sense of all the little nuanced guilt. Sometimes I might feel critical of myself if I’m not meditating because I know a good practitioner or whatever meditates. then they’ll just talk to me and say, “no, go for a walk. You don’t need more time in your head. Your head’s not where you need to be right now. You don’t need to be working on releasing your thoughts. Just go spend time with nature. Appreciate something that has been created out of nothingness.” all of that is considered sacred When we bring love to it.

Johnny Burke: When you say all the divine really wants is our truth. No matter how beautiful or ugly it is. It reminds me of what I was told recently was that’s how the divine learns from us. Does that make sense? heard that a few times. I thought, wow, the divine is going to learn from us? when we addressed that ache that you mentioned earlier, I think that has a lot to do with what really happens when we die. Who was God? What is God? Why are we here? What’s our purpose?

Meanwhile, when we have this well-paying job, you’re making ridiculous amounts of money. You’re partying. you’ve got really cool friends and nice cars, but that’s something that’s missing. You probably feel pretty lucky that you found this path.

Patty Lennon: I feel blessed by it every single day. Absolutely.

Johnny Burke: How can the average person, going to work every day and taking care of the family and so on, how do they get there? What’s some practical advice – what’s the first step they take?

Patty Lennon: the very first baby step that I recommend anyone takes. Is when you get up in the morning, make the first interaction be between you and you. so often when people get up, they’re either turning over to their partner, responding to a child, or a pet or picking up their device, or going through their to-do list for the day. All of these things involve other people’s agendas for their life. And that’s generally our biggest block to having this point of connection. So if the first thing you do when you get up in the morning, is just breathe and follow the breath to the center of your body and out to the center of your body. I used to ask people to do this for 10 minutes. I’ve now gotten down to just three deep breaths. Three deep breaths is where I can get everyone to meet me as the commitment that I feel. 99% of the people will make. This is sort of the kind of experiential stuff we do in receiving school.

The first thing you get up, that takes 30 seconds, but it also brings all this awareness to your right. First thing in the morning, which is the richest time to get information. . And if you want a big gigantic step to do that will really shift things is to do what I call, receive everything. If you do any manifestation learning, they’ll always say, make sure you receive compliments, receive any gifts that people give you receive the good stuff that’s coming, but receive the negative stuff, receive the difficult stuff. Like if you have debt receive that truth.

so many people think if they receive it, meaning they accept it, that they’re saying I’m going to hold onto it, but that’s not what happens when you receive it. You stop being in this resisting relationship with it. And that lack of resistance starts to flow miracles in quicker than anything else.

Johnny Burke: The receiving part, goes back to the receiving school, We need to be receivers, right? It’s like catching a pass. You have to jump up and go get it sometimes. Right?

Patty Lennon: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Forgive me for my sports analogies. Now we get into the fun stuff. The myths and mistruths that are taught in the spiritual and personal development worlds. I’m sure a lot of us really want to hear about what they are.

Patty Lennon: Yeah. Well, the biggest one is that you manifest, you bring good stuff into your life by staying positive That there’s always, this need to be like visualizing and seeing the good stuff and transmuting everything instantly into positivity. that’s really toxic. That is the biggest mistake that’s taught. Every single human, every single day experiences, something that causes a negative emotion, I mean, short of you being in a room meditating all day long. Most likely you’re going to have some small engagement or big engagement. That’s going to get you angry. It’s going to bring you down. And if it’s on the bigger side, it’s going to be pretty heavy. And if you listen to that talk out there that you have to be positive, what happens is you’re actually going to just shove it down deep inside your body, and you’re using a tremendous amount of resistance to doing it.

You’re also messing with your mind because you’re basically telling yourself it’s not safe to be fully you, so that’s the biggest one. And the answer is, let yourself feel your true emotions. You cannot hold onto an emotional reaction for longer than 45 seconds to a minute. It’s impossible. The physiological response to emotion does not last longer than that. The reason it ends up feeling like it’s lasting for days and weeks is because,one you’re trying to resist it, and then when you’re allowing it to come up, you’re feeding thoughts into it. So if you feed thoughts into an emotional reaction, it will then start a second emotional reaction, a third, a fourth. If you push it down, your brain is going to spend all its time, trying to get you to work at it.

Johnny Burke: So in other words, denial is pointless.

Patty Lennon: Right. and on top of it, you can be feeling really bad if it’s legitimate. If someone was an idiot, cut you off, be angry about that for a minute, two minutes, but if you’re still thinking about it like three days for now, now you’re messing with yourself and then, then you do need to lean into that stay positive kind of thing. Then maybe you were really traumatized by it. Maybe you were just in a car accident the week before, right? Well then you give yourself a couple of days. ’cause you’re still processing that trauma, just because you’re processing a difficult emotion, you’re not blocking good stuff from coming in because you’re in non-resistance.

So the divine does not need you to be happy to give you the good stuff. And almost always when you’re in your low points is when your spirit team is jumping in and wanting to help so bad. So if you keep pretending you’re fine, you’re blocking their help. That’s the biggest mistruth.

Johnny Burke: That’s a great point.

Patty Lennon: Yeah, and then the other one is that if what you desire hasn’t arrived, whether it’s material or communication from the other side of the veil, This belief that you’re not doing something good enough. You’re not visualizing enough. You’re not vision boarding well enough. You’re not acting” as if” enough -completely untrue. The divine is omnipotent. It does not need a vision board to figure out that you would like to pay off your debt, that you would like to go on a vacation, right? The minute you have a desire, if that desire being met is for your highest good, it is starting to be met. Vision boards, visualization, acting” as if” work wonderfully, if you’re highly developed a right brain. But if you’re a highly developed left brain, that will never work for you because your brain will keep calling bullshit. So it does work. But if someone doesn’t understand that they’re a highly right-brained person, and that’s why it works for them, they will teach it like it’s the gospel. And they will conclude that the reason you don’t have your new cars, is because you’re not visualizing properly, but that’s not

Johnny Burke: Because quite simply, that might not be your highest and best use, does that make sense?

Patty Lennon: right. Or you may be in so much resistance to it that it’s not able to come through, but the resistance isn’t fixed bay vision board for most people, resistance is fixed by the stuff I talked about already, which is honoring your true feelings. Allow all the gifts in- bad and good. Honor what’s true for you. Connect to yourself in the morning, in the day.

Johnny Burke: Also in your work, you mentioned the vibration of the planet is opening all humans up to increased spiritual metaphysical connection. Is that the same thing as the Ascension or is it different?

Patty Lennon: it’s a symptom of the Ascension. 40 years ago the vibration on this planet was such that not everyone could communicate with the other side of the veil easily. The vibration we were all operating in, made it very hard for us to get to a vibrational level that would be a match for the communication. As we are ascending as a people, , that look like they don’t even know that we are all connected, right?, that fervor that we’re all feeling. That’s actually natural in the process of evolution. The lowest part of the evolution body is going to resist it And fight it. A rising tide lifts all boats. So the vibration is rising on the planet because we are evolving as a people. And because we have that higher vibration, is why we all have access to the other side of the veil

Johnny Burke: So in other words, the veil is actually becoming thinner.

Patty Lennon: I know that’s how a lot of people describe it. I would say our perception that there is a veil is getting thinner. The veil is the vibrational difference, It’s just that border between the human earth-based vibration and then the vibration of the upper dimensions. Because ours is getting higher, doesn’t look so thick anymore

Johnny Burke: Can we just say that more access to the veil than there was 30 or 40 years ago?

Patty Lennon: Yeah. The perception of the membrane is just different.

Johnny Burke: Now that we know that, and many people have been talking about this in the past few years, what are some simple ways for us to connect with spirit guides, angels, and our loved ones that, are not here anymore?

Patty Lennon: The best way, because no matter where you are in that, woo woo- curious- I don’t believe at all spectrum, is signs. I think signs are the easiest way. And in order to get signs, asking for them with specificity really helps. If you feel very doubtful, if you really question, is anyone there for me? Make your sign that you want to see answer a particular question, whether it’s” are you their grandpa ?”Or, ” spirit guide, should I take this job?” if I should, show me this sign and make it really outrageous, you know, a dancing Shamrock with a purple hat, right.? Something that you just don’t think you’ve ever seen before.

if you’re not in that level of doubt, then having something that’s a regular sign that a loved one, or your spirit guide can give you when you need assurance is great, and having a personal connection to it can really help. So for instance, my father, we are Irish and he was very attached to his Irish heritage. So when I see shamrocks, real shamrocks, I know he’s there and my mother, her favorite flower was daisies , so when I see daisies pop up, in an unexpected way, you kind of get this whoosh of warmth inside of you when you see it- that’s your proof that it’s a sign, versus just another daisy. That to me is the easiest way. Even if you’re not out of your mind yet, like, your mental game? Your mind can see signs, it can take them in.

Johnny Burke: I think that’s. Practical advice to see the signs, you’re convinced that, that there, that’s obvious I think people do have to be open to it. They have to be receivers. If they don’t believe in anything, then it’s probably not going to happen.

Patty Lennon: I actually no, I’ve turned complete cynics around because of this practice.

Johnny Burke: Really? That’s encouraging. I like that. So, tell us what can we expect from the space for magic podcast?

Patty Lennon: My goal in The Space For Magic podcast is to share both my journey as I’m learning. So I’m live teaching my own personal journey. I try and stay in the moment with the energy that’s happening on the planet like right now. So for instance, at the moment we’re recording this, there is a very intense, chaotic, energetic storm happening. It’s very hard for people who have been able to rely on their gifts to hear and see clearly. I’m talking about the tools they can use, the alternative tools that you can use when things are really unclear. Also, guests who have developed techniques, or have had unique journeys and opening up to space for magic, so that listeners get a chance to learn from other people’s journey on how they navigate this being one foot in the real world, and yet also knowing that there are other foot is truly the soul that they came with.

Johnny Burke: that sounds really, really cool. I’m going to make sure I put a link to that along with, your other information in the show notes and the transcript, Patty, thanks so much for joining us today. Speaking of which, how can our listeners find out more about you online?

Patty Lennon: Thank you for having me Johnny, the best place to go is www. Patty lennon.com/ makespaceformagic . You’ll see where to order the book, whatever free offerings we have out right now all be there on the page.

#68 Jeannie Sullivan: Past Lives and The Spirit World

May 7, 2022 by jonny

Mediums

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Jeannie Sullivan. She is a psychic medium who’s taught seminars on past lives, reincarnation, what the other side may look like, as well as Ascension and the beings in the spirit realm. Today, we’re going to be talking about how the spirit world works,-Jeannie, welcome to the program.

Jeannie Sullivan: Thank you very much for having me. I’m really happy to be here.

Johnny Burke: Being a medium, I’m sure you probably get this question a lot- what exactly is the difference between being a psychic and a medium?

Jeannie Sullivan: That is a great question. And I get that all the time, it’s a fabulous question. The difference between being a psychic and a medium, a psychic can read energy anywhere in the world. We are pretty good at predicting the future, telling stories about the past, and what your present might be looking like. So we read energy really, really well. So do psychic mediums. However, the difference between a psychic and a medium, is that mediums talk to dead people. It’s probably the easiest way to explain it. They are able to see and hear, feel, sometimes taste, but basically a medium can talk to dead people. Psychic intuitives generally don’t.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard it explained a variety of different ways, but I have heard more than once that all mediums are psychic, but not all psychics are mediums.

Jeannie Sullivan: That is exactly true. All mediums are psychic, but not all psychics are mediums. That is absolutely true.

Johnny Burke: As far as mediums are concerned, I know there are some, non-profits such as Forever Family Foundation and Windbridge, two organizations that come to mind that actually test and certify mediums. What are your feelings about that? , have you ever been tested or certified?

Jeannie Sullivan: I have not been tested in that way, and I’m not a certified medium. There are organizations that do that, and there’s a religion called Spiritualism that also tests their mediums as well. I do not feel that we need that. It’s great if you feel comfortable with that, I do think we need training. We need to know certain things like ethics and other things. I don’t think that you need to be certified because we all have this gift. We come into this world having this gift and we can all do it. It depends on whether or not you feel comfortable accessing this.

Johnny Burke: I bring that up because I think those organizations basically came into existence to alert people that there was fraud and yes, there is an effort in trying to curb the fraud. I spoke with Bob Ginsburg, who is the founder of Forever Family Foundation. Among other things, he remembers discovering a medium who would interview people and have two computer screens, one had their Facebook page open, which was very alarming. And I think their point of view, is only about 15% of the mediums that go through the programs actually get certified. So their feeling is there’s an awful lot of people out there that either doesn’t know what they’re doing or are not quite developed enough. I think at some point it wouldn’t shock me to see that field maybe in the future being regulated.

With your training, speaking of which, can you give us an idea of how you found yourself on the path, what classes you took, or who you studied with?

Jeannie Sullivan: It’s an interesting path. I have always been able to read energy. I’ve always been a psychic medium when I was younger. I didn’t have the words for that. And I’ve always been an empath, and that someone who feels everything, my stuff, your stuff, and everybody else’s stuff. So you need to learn how to discern what’s yours, what somebody else’s, and you need to discern how to speak with spirit as well.

My training started in earnest in 1996. The catalyst to that was I got divorced, and I wanted to get better and getting better mentally, physically, and emotionally also meant learning these gifts. So I’ve been trained by very good people. I did an introduction to Tarot with a woman who was very well known in the Portland Maine area. I’ve also been trained by an amazing Reiki Master teacher, and I trained through primus activation healing technique with a woman Samira asked her, who’s probably better known as negotiation. So I’ve been trained by really good people with really strong ethics. I think that that’s important. I do a whole bunch of things before anybody comes and has a reading with me. I set an intention, I say prayer of protection for me and for them, just allowing what is the divine white light to be able to come in and that’s it.

Johnny Burke: We know that the training is obviously important. Going back to how you knew that you were a medium early on, did you have experiences with spirits, ghosts in your bedroom, that type of thing, when you were young?

Jeannie Sullivan: No, because I wouldn’t let them in. My experiences came in bits and pieces because the universe doesn’t give us anything more than what we’re ready for. So my journey to be a medium, it was a long one. I would admit to myself that I was a psychic, intuitive, and I could read energy. I could understand people’s feelings. I could assess the situation from an energetic standpoint or a psychic standpoint. And I did that for many, many years, and it wasn’t until I started doing something called psychic dinners here in Maine that I allowed myself to say,” I was a medium “, because people would come and say, “I want to talk to so-and-so” and I’d be like, yeah”, no, I don’t do that.”

I was saying I wasn’t a medium, but I didn’t feel comfortable. And I think it’s hysterical because I didn’t want uncle Charlie, whose ever Uncle Charlie it was to show up in the middle of night and go, “hi, here I am.” I didn’t want that to happen, except that when I moved to the town that I live in now, it started happening with regularity because the town that I live in, there are more dead people than there are alive people. And they’re like, “woo, new girl in town and she can hear us!”

Johnny Burke: That’s great.

Jeannie Sullivan: So they kept me up at night. That was a really long process. I saw shadows at first, and that I could tell if they were male or female energy, and then slowly over time, they morphed into actual beings. When I started, it was easier to see the people that I was related to, than the people that weren’t. I think that’s one of the misconceptions that we see it all, we see it all the time, and that’s not the case. We grow and change and morph into this, just like you grow and change and morph into any job that you have. I look back on it now, I kind of chuckle at myself like, honey, you were a medium the whole time. You just didn’t allow yourself to be that.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that quite a bit. The gifts, the abilities usually manifest pretty early on. Usually the kids are like, four or five years old. You mentioned also misconceptions, and I think it’s an important thing to talk about. What are the most common misconceptions of mediums that you know of?

Jeannie Sullivan: I think that we know everything all the time and that we’re on all the time, and that we’re reading all the time. You can’t do that because you’ll burn yourself out, and your human body is not designed to sustain that very high vibrational energy. Our souls can, but our human bodies come along for the ride, and they can exhaust themselves very easily trying to sit in that high vibrational energy. It’s kind of like running a marathon; you have to train to run that kind of energy because it’s so high vibrational.

What happens is, the beings on the other side lower their vibration, we raise ours as high as we can get it, and we have a conversation somewhere in the middle. Our human bodies are not designed to sit in that energy. So I think that’s one of the miscommunications that we’re reading all the time, that we are on all the time, that we know everything and that we see everything. We don’t. We just get enough information from the other side for either for me to understand it, or the client to understand it. Lots of times I will say something like” this does not make any sense to me, but this is the third time I’ve gotten it in this session. So I’m going to say, this”. And it makes no sense to me, but the client goes, “oh my gosh, that I know exactly what you’re talking about”. There’s lots of misconceptions, but those are probably the most common that I bump up against.

Johnny Burke: And what you just mentioned- you don’t know what the significance of that information that came up three times. So I’m going to relay it. That would be an example of evidential, mediumship, right? That’s what I thought. In all fairness, that’s probably as good, as substantial as being certified.
I think there are mediums that are not certified, that are great. I’ve talked to quite a few mediums that went through and actually passed and actually got certified and they will be usually the first ones to tell you that “I know several mediums that are not certified, that are fantastic.”

Jeannie Sullivan: Oh, yeah.

Johnny Burke: the evidence comes out and pieces of evidential information that only the client can verify. Now, I believe you’ve also had shamanic training as well.

Jeannie Sullivan: That is true. I am what is called the Mesa Carrier, and you can do a Mesa for a lot of things. Mine happens to be a healing Mesa, so I use it with my energy work. It’s 13 stones that I have maybe not put blood in but sweat and tears and a lot of energetic work into. I incorporate that into my healing sessions. Though I am not a shaman, and never will be, unless I studied Celtic shamanism.

I am a shamanic practitioner. I am very careful not to misappropriate other people’s cultures. I use the Mesa when I’m doing my energy healings like Reiki or Primus. it adds a really nice balancing element to it. And, it really has made my energetic sessions with people very shamanically informed.

Johnny Burke: That modality is probably one of the oldest. I think it’s interesting that you mentioned shamanism. I’ve been told that part of the Catholic or Pre-Christian past has been repressed by church and state for literally centuries.

Jeannie Sullivan: Celtic shamanism is a thing, it’s not just North American shamanism or Native American, there’s indigenous cultures all over the world that have their own shamanic practices. And you are absolutely correct; Religion has done an excellent job of squashing any kind of indigenous practice everywhere.

Johnny Burke: In several instances, four or five different movements, which I think are correlated with certain Renaissance movements, which have to do with experience, the Gnostics, and so forth. That’s probably a discussion for a different day, but it’s interesting that I’m hearing more and more people that have had some kind of shamanic training or are shamanic practitioners and or ministers.

You’ve actually taught seminars on past lives and reincarnation, and you are a psychic medium. So you are pretty well steeped in the world beyond the veil. In your work, have you done something similar to a past life regression? what is your experience with beings, spirits, beyond the veil?

Jeannie Sullivan: I have had a multitude of experiences, including my own experiences. I’ve had sessions, with someone who’s been trained for life between lives, from the Michael Newton Institute, and they take you in a hypnotic state, right back to the other side. I have seen the best as far as it led me in the other side. There’s just a certain point that as humans, we can go, because if we go any further, that means that we have really crossed.

Johnny Burke: You can’t come back at that point.

Jeannie Sullivan: Right. You can’t come back to that point. So your body’s hanging out, and you’re kind of on the other side. My own experience, I’ve made it as far as a waiting room, and it is the first place that we tend to go when we cross, if we need it, there are other souls that greet us and help us cross over the veil. Then we get into this big meeting hall and there’s everybody, your people, you, but there’s also a whole host of other beings there as well. We gather in the meeting hall and then that’s the first step. Then you go further in, and you have your life review. You have your life set up before you get here, you do your contract work. Then when you go back, you have a life review, and your spiritual team kind of talks you through it and you’re like, “Ooh, I did a really great job when I did that. Ooh, that was not so great.” And that kind of stuff. So, you have your life review and then you go further on into what I describe as heaven.

So I’ve made it as far as the meeting room. So, but that’s it, because like you said, if I step any further, then I’m not here anymore.

Johnny Burke: That’s what I’ve been told so I think what you just described is that you do encounter your soul group, right?

Jeannie Sullivan: Yes.

Johnny Burke: This is a hypnosis session. one thing that I think maybe confusing to some people, is that during these sessions, are you viewing a past event or is it actually more in real time? happening right this moment?

Jeannie Sullivan: It is happening right at this moment. And it’s also past life, because all time is now. There are different dimensions that we live in and go through, especially if you’re a psychic medium or someone who does hypnosis, or you’re psychic. You learn those different dimensions. So all time is now because our brain can’t handle that, we structure it in our brain like a filing cabinet, and we call it a past life. You can access that is something called the Akashic Records. Or you can go into a meditative state -shamans all it a journey. You can access it that way. You can go to someone and be put in a hypnotic state and view your past lives yourself.

What’s really fascinating was that when I had my sessions done, and to answer your question, yes, they are recorded. My voice changed, my mannerisms changed, how I said things were changed and there was a point where my soul was very impatient with the person that was asking me questions, because it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter that you’re asking about the color purple. That does not matter. And the funny thing is I couldn’t describe the color purple because we don’t have that color on Earth.

Johnny Burke: Right. In this space, whether it’s in the meeting room or beyond, which I think is called the council of elders or the karma council, I’ve been told that some of these beings actually have a sense of humor, is that true?.

Jeannie Sullivan: They do, and the universe loves irony. And they have a great sense of humor. They crack me up all the time. What I find is that the universe and universal forces can be incredibly ironic.

Johnny Burke: I remember one conversation where someone was having a life review. What he told me was that this being, I’m not sure whether he called that God or Jesus or the universe, actually took on a very colloquial manner,because they were reviewing some of the things he did in his life. And one thing was obviously not,very well. And the being told him telepathically, that wasn’t too cool. That was incredible. I thought it’s just such a thing of beauty, but since we’re on the subject of spirit guides-I think this is pretty important, because I do feel some people confuse spirit guides with other beings that may be earthbound ghosts and things like that that are not developed. Do you find the same thing?

Jeannie Sullivan: Correct. If you are an earthbound ghost, you are caught in between, and that’s one of the worst places you can be from a soul standpoint because you’re not human anymore and you’re not crossed over into the light. So what happens is you’re stuck in between, and in order to get energy, you need to- this sounds gross, but you need to feed off humans because we have energetic light. Not that they’re taking our blood and all that, but they are taking our energy. So you’re kind of stuck in between. You’re not in the love and the light. You’re not, but you’re not on earth either. So, you are stuck and you’re in between, and in order to be able to be there, you attach yourself to humans and feed off their life force energy.

Johnny Burke: Interesting. I’ve been told that sometimes that person that is stuck, can possibly be rescued by some of either their spirit guides or some of the relatives that have already crossed over.

Jeannie Sullivan: They can be rescued not necessarily rescued but sent on by humans. you can be trained how to, it’s called psychopomp, if you’re a shamanic practitioner, or if you’re a psychic medium, who does that work, you can help spirits cross.

Johnny Burke: Is that a soul retrieval or ?

Jeannie Sullivan: No, that’s something different. Soul retrieval is a gift that you receive, your spirit guides give you a gift. And that’s often a piece of you that got removed when trauma happened, or you gave your power away or a multitude of other reasons, and it can happen in a past life. So you get that gift back from yourself. So that is a soul retrieval, that’s pieces of your soul being put back to you. and I can’t think of the other thing right now. Cause all I can think of is recapitulation, which is something else entirely.

Johnny Burke: We can get to that, of course. Did you just say recapitulation?

Jeannie Sullivan: Yes.

Johnny Burke: Okay so what is that exactly?

Jeannie Sullivan: Recapitulation is, I would put someone in a meditative state, and we would decide beforehand, it has to do with bringing your power back. It’s not a soul retrieval. It happens in this lifetime usually. If you and I had a recapitulation session together, you would pick a memory from this lifetime that you gave your power away. So I would put you in a meditative state and we would talk through what happened. Then we go back to the memory, and you would say I’ve been carrying something that does not belong to me. You gave it to me. This happened, I am giving it back to you because it’s not mine to hold anymore. for whatever reason, whatever that memory is about. And then you place it in that memory and then you wall off that memory, so that energy can affect you anymore. Then I have you actually turn in your meditative state, and we decided ahead of time how you can bring back your power to you.
So what I do for myself is that I gather a big bouquet of lit flowers, the little lights, like Christmas tree lights that look like flowers. And I gathered them up into this huge bouquet. And I put that light back into my chest. And that’s a way for me to signal that I am taking my power back. So I put all the stuff that I don’t need in the memory -I wall off the memory. I grab whatever I decide to use to signify that I am taking my power back. Then I leave that memory. I call it “coming back to the room.” It is incredibly, incredibly powerful. You feel the difference from before and after.

Johnny Burke: Sounds like it’s almost like getting a tune-up or something. Thought that was a pretty crude analogy, but I guess it serves the purpose. With your work, what you do with a client. Is it roughly equivalent to like a past life regression or is it much more of a comprehensive approach?

Jeannie Sullivan: Kind of depends on what the client needs. Sometimes it can be very much a past life regression, and oftentimes it deals with this lifetime here. But that doesn’t mean that it’s not informed by something that happened before, because when we cycle through our lives, what we didn’t learn the last time gets brought back to this lifetime. I have a very interesting story about that, which we may get to, but we get represented in different ways what we didn’t learn in other life.

Johnny Burke: Do you find that when you’re in sessions with a client, that they’re taken back to past life and they recognize someone, wherever that takes place, who is actually in their current life?

Jeannie Sullivan: Yes, when we’re on the other side, we hang out with our soul group, but we also come to human form with the same, or parts of the same soul group, we move together. We are on the other side together, we decide who does what, when, where, and how. We come together. Then tend to cross with the same soul group. So yes, lots and lots of times in a past life, you meet the same quote, unquote people. This lifetime, my mother was my mother. In another lifetime, she might’ve been an aunt or a sister or, a storekeeper or whatever it is we set up and agree to in our contract before we get here, plays what to teach us what in this lifetime.

Johnny Burke: So in your life, just to clarify, when you viewed some of your past lives, people that are in your life today?

Jeannie Sullivan: Yes. Yes,

Johnny Burke: Can you just go over exactly who they are?

Jeannie Sullivan: So for example, there is a man that I used to know, and he is in this vein. and we’ve had a very significant, significant lifetime together. It ended with him killing me. He killed me after some horrifying things happened before that, and then he killed me. I feel I was a queen in that lifetime. And, in order to teach my subjects a lesson, he quartered me. And now, we had for a short period of time in this lifetime an experience. And another, I had a friend, another guy, he was a friend, he’s a muggle.

Johnny Burke: What is a muggle?

Jeannie Sullivan: Oh, that’s a good question; a muggle is somebody who does not have any spiritual or magical gifts. It comes from Harry Potter. And so, he is the muggliest person I’ve ever met. And I’ve had a couple of exchanges with him that brought me back to a past life that we have had. This particular friend now, not that we’re friends anymore. We’ve had two significant lifetimes, together, and we are together again, in this lifetime and this time it was my choice to represent something for him. In this lifetime, it was his choice to either grow from it and change and learn or not. And he did not. And I’m like, okay, I’m done. I’m not doing this for you anymore. This is at least the third time that I know about. And I’m done. You’re on your own bud.

Johnny Burke: These people that you just mentioned, have you made them aware that you recognize them from a life in the past or not?

Jeannie Sullivan: No. the friend that I was telling you about, the muggle friend of mine, have had conversations and there’s just so far he’s willing to go. It would not have been worth the argument to explain to him about past lives and all that kind of stuff.

Johnny Burke: Yeah. I can imagine

Jeannie Sullivan: Yeah. And the other guy I’m like, oh, I got to go. for my safety’s sake, like energetically safety, not my physical safety sake. It was time for me to go.

Johnny Burke: What is this guy like now? I’m just curious, the one who killed you in the past life. Mild-mannered? Hothead?

Jeannie Sullivan: He appears to be very mild-mannered. And if you did not know any spiritual practices, you would think that he was a really great guy. But, I do not find him to be very ethical . Clearly, he did not learn. his lessons.

Johnny Burke: It sounds like he might’ve learned his lessons-

Jeannie Sullivan: That’s true. At least he’s not, killing anybody anymore,

Johnny Burke: Not that you know of.

Jeannie Sullivan: Right?

Johnny Burke: You mentioned the in-between space, which I’ve heard many, many people talk about -it’s almost like casting a movie or casting a play. One question That does come up, the people that agree to play the bad guy, maybe it’s for the benefit of the group or not. But they think, Jeanie, guess what? I’m going to be the guy that breaks your heart, or I’m going to rob your house or I’m going to kill your family. I’m going to do this for that because you need to learn this, and the rest of us need to learn compassion, or whatever that might be. Do you find that those people, because they agree, get some kind of karmic exemption from the bad acts because they’re planned,or not necessarily.?

Jeannie Sullivan: I don’t think there’s a karmic exception in their process, they also learn a lot and sometimes we set things up and they go haywire. Cause when we incarnate, we forget everything from the other side. And not to be political, not Biden, our former president 45, I think one of his jobs was to be who he was to help wake up the world as difficult as it was. And he continues to be, I think to a certain extent that was a karmic role for him.

Johnny Burke: Maybe the QAnon people are right, maybe he was sent here by God, but not for the reasons that that camp believes in. It sounds crazy, but that explanation is a lot more believable than the other things that Q Anon believes in, which we’re not going to go into that -not on this show.

Since you have a lot of experience, you understand the reincarnation cycle, and the life between lives, I think is a critical piece in understanding how the life/ death /rebirth cycle really works which, the Buddhists for example, have been talking about for the past five or 6,000 years, if not longer. What is your experience with souls that have committed suicide? We know what the religious groups say about that, but I want to hear it from someone who has experience beyond the veil.

Jeannie Sullivan: My experience is that they are very, very compassionate, especially if you are suffering. Really suffering. They have compassion anyway because on the other side, all it is love. It’s pure, unconditional love. And the being who has the hardest time with committing suicide is the being that did it. Once they get on the other side, we tend to be very hard on ourselves. And our spirit guides are far more gentle with us.

I have an interesting story being on this side. so you know that I’m a medium and in 2014, life was not good. So I had decided to make a plan and the day that I decided to execute the plan, I got up from the kitchen table to go get the implement. And I heard very sternly,” sit down”, and I am the only one in the room. I’m the only one in the building that I’m in. And I don’t really pay attention to it. I take a couple more steps. Even more sternly. I here “sit down.” So I sat down, and we had a conversation. Me and the other side, and the other side said,” we’re not going to stop you. If you choose to decide to do this, we will not stop you. However, if you do this, we are going to bring you back in another lifetime, to this very moment. It might be a different circumstance, but you will be brought back to this very moment, and you’re going to have to decide again.” And I’m like, forget that I am not ever going to be in this situation again, ever. So game on, I didn’t do the deed, so to speak, I didn’t grab the knife. I didn’t slit my wrist. I didn’t do any of that. I’m like, I am not going to ever going to be in this position again. And so we will move forward, be very much alive.

But I found it really very interesting that yes, they were compassionate and incredibly clear that “yes, you can do this. This is your choice. However, if you do this, you’re going to be brought right back again and another lifetime because you didn’t learn the lessons that you set up for yourself.” However, if you are incredibly in pain and agony, either mentally or physically, I knew they are very compassionate, and they look at that differently.

Johnny Burke: That was a great explanation of what is most likely to happen. I’ve heard the same thing. We don’t want to confuse this with what certain religions say about, this is a sin, that’s a sin. By now most of us know that committing suicide or being gay is not a sin. That’s deeply silly, among other errors in the Bible, and there’s plenty. But I think it’s a very important lesson, that if we choose to do something like that, we’re going to be put in the same situation more than likely, until we learn our lesson.

A man named Walter Semkiw basically took the works of Dr. Ian Stevenson, who we all know as a pioneer in reincarnation research, built a website called reincarnation research.com and took the most important cases of Dr. Stevenson, he made them into a readable format because Stevenson basically wrote for the academics. One book that he wrote on birthmarks in reincarnation cases is 2000 pages long. So if he were alive today, he probably wouldn’t be trying to sell books on Amazon.

And this is Walter’s idea where he basically said “if there was a widespread acceptance of reincarnation, there would be, no fear of death.” In other words, a greatly decreased fear of death. If there is a greatly decreased fear of death, there would be less emphasis and importance of religion with less importance and emphasis on religion, we would have a lot less wars. I guess the devil’s advocate would respond to say,” if everybody believed in that, then what would keep them from offing themselves, if things don’t go right?” You just supplied the answer for that, because, you do have free will, but what’s probably most likely to happen is that you’re going to put in the same situation again and again and again, until you learn your lesson . Then at that point, you will most likely make a decision as you did.

Jeannie Sullivan: Right.

Johnny Burke: I thought that was a very important episode as is this one, because as more and more people are starting to believe in the afterlife and even in reincarnation, I’ve heard people say ” that’s a dangerous thought because if things get tough, they can just kill themselves and be reborn.” I don’t think it’s that simple. And you don’t either.

Jeannie Sullivan: Or that easy.

Johnny Burke: No, it isn’t, because it’s akin to being held back a grade.

Jeannie Sullivan: Right. And sometimes again and again and again and again, cause some of us are slow learners.

Johnny Burke: What do you do think are the most important takeaways from the spirit world, especially for that person that wants to get to higher spiritual ground, doesn’t quite know how to get there, and for those people that go to traditional worship ceremonies, they do reach a point where they just can’t go any farther. They have to really go beyond that point and learn what really happens when you die? Why are we really here? And it’s not just” live our best life and collect as many toys and make as much money and win everything. “

It has to be more than that.

Jeannie Sullivan: It is, on the other side is all about unconditional love among other things, but the big takeaway is unconditional support, unconditional love. And this side, we are here to learn. You’re right. It’s not to get the most money or get the best car or the best biggest boat or whatever. It’s to learn compassion, learn how to get along with each other. Learn love. I don’t mean just romantic love. I mean, all love, love the person who doesn’t look like you, who doesn’t act like you. We are here to learn lessons and that’s why we come here. That’s why we have contracts. I also feel like we come here because there’s a physicality that we get here that we can’t get on the other side. I am a medium and my parents had passed away, and yes, I get to talk to my parents and other people who passed away that I love very much, but it’s not the same. I can’t hug them. I can’t kiss them cause they’re light form and I’m not. That’s the big takeaway- be kind, be thoughtful, be considerate, be loving, learn to get along with other people. Everybody, not just the people that you like and learn.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. Jeannie, thanks so much for joining us today. Excellent. Excellent information. How can our listeners find more about you online?

Jeannie Sullivan: I have my own website. It’s www.heartfeltenergies.com and I’m on Facebook. And I have a Gmail address, heartfeltenergies @gmail.com,but my website is heartfeltenergies .com

#66 Vicki McGrath: The Life Purpose Medium

April 23, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Mediums

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer To Venus , I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Vicki McGrath. She is a psychic, certified life purpose medium, and 25 year Reiki practitioner. Today, we’re going to be talking about how she helps women to raise their vibration, to activate their dream life, as well as our own personal journey of spiritual awakening. Vicky, welcome to the program.

Vicky McGrath: Well, thank you for having me on your show, and I hope together we can help your listeners understand how to create a life they love using their intuition.

Johnny Burke: I’m sure there are plenty of people that want to learn just that. how did you come to realize that you’re a psychic medium? How did that happen?

Vicky McGrath: I would say it’s, similar to what you’ve experienced with other guests on your show. As a child, I had an Anglican upbringing. I had four older brothers. They probably shamed me for trying to get what I want being the youngest and the only girl. Thankfully into Star Trek and Star Wars. And as a child, I would really be drawn into that world. I would dress up as an alien. I would use my mom’s purple or green eye shadow and make myself a purple or green and dress up like an alien and play Star Wars or Star Trek. So I had kind of an unusual way of being as a child.

I think I lived a fairly traditional life. I went to university. I got married, I sort of passively accepted my role in life as getting a job, going to university, getting a job, becoming a wife, Those types of things. But then once I started my first real job. I had a colleague who, was interested in sort of a spiritual journey himself. He was going to take a Reiki attunement course for a weekend. And he invited me to. come along with him. And that was probably the beginning. So that was about 25 years ago. I also became interested in meditation and followed a Buddhist meditation path in about 2006, I started a daily meditation practice and that really helped to quiet my mind, and really start to see, inside myself and, and learn that way.

So I started to look into mindset and began reading a book, Dana Wilde, Train Your Brain, and it’s basically how to use a positive mantra or a repetition to make yourself happier. And as a result of starting to feel happier, all of these other opportunities started to pop up into my life.

And I joined a Facebook group, called “Practical Magic” and they did this free five-day summit. And that was when I literally popped awake was during the five-day free summit. And the things that I learned on that summit were mind-blowing is the only way I can say it. I suddenly realized I had psychic gifts. I realized that other people lived this life every day, they were guided by their intuition. There were people who were star seeds and galactic shamans and drop in spirits and channels. Like just so much just blew my mind wide

open

Johnny Burke: So the summit was where you discovered that that was the event where you discovered you at intuitive gifts.?

Vicky McGrath: That was it- literally that five-day period. And suddenly I just realized that that was what I was meant to be doing. That I was meant to now begin to live my life from the place where I was creating the life I wanted to live instead of just being the role that I had kind of marched along to all time.

Johnny Burke: Okay. When you were younger, you didn’t have any experiences where you saw spirits or, something of a paranormal, nature?

Vicky McGrath: It’s entirely possible that I did. And that could be why I was so interested in space and aliens. But as an adult, I don’t remember specifically having, experience, but I do remember a lot of being afraid of monsters in my room. And my mom having to come in and turn on the light and tell me that there was nothing there. But what I come to know now is that in fact, I have been using intuition my entire life saw pictures, I got intuitive downloads, basically insights that just came to me without anybody telling me or any educational knowledge.

Things just dropped into my mind. When I was in my career, I would have a full, complete picture of the outcome of a project or something that I was working on. At the time I had no idea that that’s what was happening. And I think that’s how most people live their lives, is that they don’t realize that they’re already being guided by their intuition.

Johnny Burke: What I’ve heard is that intuitive gifts are a lot more common than most people think. When we talk about mediumship, a common question that comes up a lot is what’s the difference between a psychic and a medium, because they’re not always the same thing.

Vicky McGrath: So what I understand is that we’re actually all mediums. What a medium is as a channel, it’s a channel to energy, a channel to the divine. really just a channel of information from some form of source. Some mediums channel spirits like ghosts, some mediums channel spirit guides, angels are another form that are channeled by mediums. So the difference between a medium and a psychic, is that a psychic is speaking to the intuitive gifts that the person has. So a psychic sees things. So a psychic has clairvoyance as kind of their predominant level of intuition. So you might see an angel.

You might see spirits; you might see spirit guides. So those are All ways that a psychic would interpret the information that they’re channeling. As a medium, you’re channeling, and that’s how you see it is through your psychic gifts.

Johnny Burke: I’ve been told that a medium can basically contact the dead and psychics basically can feel things and sometimes foretell a future event. the answers are often different, but all mediums are psychic, but not all psychics or mediums. Would you agree or disagree with that?

Vicky McGrath: I would say it’s obviously up for interpretation. I would say we’re all mediums We all channel energy whether we realize It or not. I would say that people maybe misinterpret what psychic is. There are a variety of different intuitive gifts, the four clairs are kind of like baseline for intuition, but for me, a psychic is someone who sees. So you’re right. Maybe they see the future. Maybe they sense something.

Johnny Burke: Can someone actually take classes to develop their mediumship?

Vicky McGrath: Oh, a hundred percent. Once I learned about my intuition, that’s exactly what I did because when I attended that summit and all of these people were talking about all of their spectacular ways of being in the world, I thought, well, what the heck? I don’t think I’m a Starseed. I don’t think I’m a galactic Shaman, I don’t think I’m a drop- in spirit and I’m definitely not channeling some big, spiritual being . And so I wanted to know what exactly my gifts were. And I sort of see myself on the beginning of the spiritual journey of a spiritual newbie, if you want to call it that, where I’m really just learning about how my intuition works in the world. And so I definitely took, some classes. You can take online classes, or you can take in-person classes. For me in person and practicing was the best approach for me to understand my gifts. I took a lot of courses and got my life purpose medium certification through Hillary Michelson.

Johnny Burke: You are certified then.

Vicky McGrath: Right. So now I’m certified. So that’s the LA spiritual arts and she does live in-person on the computer, of course,

Johnny Burke: The Forever Family Foundation, they do testing, which I think is five back-to-back Skype interviews. And then the foundation people actually interview the sitter, and they score for accuracy. So when you got certified, was there a similar process or was a different?

Vicky McGrath: Yes. Part of the process was we had to read other people. So we would have people who wanted readings, sign up and then participate in the class and we would read them in real-time. And Hillary would then give us feedback as well as the sitter, the sitter would verify or validate whether or not we had information that was relevant for them. For example, so seeing the deceased people that were around the sitter and asking for their information to provide to the sitter and then the sitter would verify, yes, that’s my mom. That’s my dad. That’s my grandad. That’s my uncle.

when I’m doing reading, I see exactly what the person that I’m communicating with on the other side is wearing. I can see their hair color. I can see if they’re wearing earrings, everything they’re as clear as if they’re sitting in front of me, but there’s nothing scary. They are not ghostly. They’re just like themselves in the real world except now they’re passed. And so for me, that’s how they came through. That’s what mediumship is really, is that it has to be evidential and that’s part of the certification process. When I went through the different courses that Hillary was offering, I started out with mediumship, working with deceased folks, but I came to understand very quickly that that actually wasn’t where I wanted to go. That that’s a singular event, which helps somebody connect with a loved one on the other side, but it doesn’t help them so much in this life to create the life that they love.

With life purpose mediumship, you’re connecting with the sitters or the clients, spirit guides. And they’re giving that person the validation to move forward with what they want in their life. That excitement, that joy, the creativity, that they’re feeling deep in their hearts that wants to come out. And then there’s the spirit guides on the other side are helping them, encouraging them and supporting them to move forward because it’s a big risk to suddenly start doing what you want to do with your life,versus just marching along and doing what everyone else is expected of you in your life.

Johnny Burke: This is the first time I’ve heard of the title, life purpose medium. It’s very interesting to say the least. You brought up something really important about spirit guides. And it seems to me that whether we’re talking about mediumship, past life regression or even shamans, speaking of which, it seems like all three modalities at some point or the other literally enlist spirit guides to kind of guide them with their client.

I’ll give you an example. Someone I interviewed actually pretty recently – past life regression, where he would literally coach the client to meditate and ask the universe, his spirit guides to, please show him the most beneficial past life that would benefit him in this life. I’ve heard a similar thing with shamans as well. So spirit guides and angels are obviously very important for just about everyone, that practices these modalities. Would you agree?

Vicky McGrath: Oh, a hundred percent. And I would say that you don’t have to go into hypnosis or anything like that to do that. You just have to ask, they’re always there. They’re always here with us. They’re always supporting us. Once you understand how your intuitive gifts work within yourself, then that’s how the information comes through. In the clairs and the clairs are how you receive the information, and then you can interpret the information from those clairs. In readings with sitters who are interested in their life purpose. I have experienced angels who give me information about that person’s childhood that helps them to guide them now. What was exciting for them as a child, is probably still what excites them now. They’ve just left that behind thinking that it’s childlike. You can have access to your spirit guides. You can ask your spirit guides any time you can ask them during meditation, you can ask them as you’re driving down the road or walking through the grocery store. There’s no time that you don’t have access.

Johnny Burke: It’s very obvious that you have intuitive gifts. What about those practitioners that are not intuitive? They don’t have any of the clairs. They don’t have second sight. They don’t have any of that. Do you think that they can still contact spirit guides and angels within their practice or just in daily life?

Vicky McGrath: I don’t think there’s a living being among us that doesn’t have intuitive gifts. They just haven’t figured out how they come through, how to open to them. So I feel that everybody can always hear the information that spirit guides are bringing for them or that their intuition is bringing them.

There are people who are channels to massive celestial beings in other dimensions and whether or not they also consider themselves intuitive or have clairs, you don’t really hear about that. For example, Esther Hicks who channels, Theo who is channeled, and Toth, who is channeled. These are channeled beings who are coming through. Dee Wallace is another one who channels. You don’t hear those channels then saying” I’m clairvoyant” or “I’m clairaudient “, You just hear them talking about being a channel. So I think it just depends on what your experience is, whether or not you identify yourself as being intuitive or having your intuitive gifts.

Johnny Burke: I don’t know very much about channels. The mediumship, the shamanism, the past lives and how all this fits together, I think is very interesting for all of us. Whether we’re intuitive or not. One of the common complaints, or should I say objections about mediumship is, when we’re getting a reading., How do we know the medium isn’t just reading our mind instead of actually bringing forth one of our deceased relatives or friends for that matter?

Vicky McGrath: I know some people are able to do that. There are people who have telepathic gifts who can read minds that way or express themselves that way. As a sitter, thinking about the person that you would like to come through, then that might be how they’re coming through. So you might be thinking about your mom or dad who passed. And you’re thinking about the ways that they were in their life with you, your mom baked chocolate chip cookies, which were divine and the person who’s reading you picks up on that. That’s evidential, whether it’s mind-reading or not, that’s how that information is coming through for that reader, for that medium.

Johnny Burke: If I were to play the role of the devil’s advocate-if I was sitting for you, for instance, and you brought through someone, and I didn’t give you any information, you know nothing about me, my background or anything,. And you bring forth someone who appears to be my mom, how do I really know it’s my mom and not just a random spirit, or again, you’re reading my mind? How do we really know that? Or is there a way to even know?

Vicky McGrath: Well, I’m not sure whether you could deduce or not, but for me , I reach out through my solar plexus, heart chakra, I envelop my sitter with my energy and I’m connected to them energetically, but I’m still keeping my energy to myself. How I see it is that if I’m looking at the sitter, so I’m looking at you right now, on your left, where I’m looking at are your mother’s side of the family, and on the right are your father’s side of the family. And so that kind of helps me to understand who’s coming through, but then for me, I actually see the person. I see what they look like. I see that the person has long curly, gray hair or blue eyes or the color of their skin, what they’re wearing. I can see if they’re wearing a floral dress. What the colors of that dress are. I can see if they’ve got jewelry on, I can see a hundred percent. There’s no way that I could know if your mom wore wooden or feather earrings, if you’ve never told me that information. So that’s how it comes through for me.

When I’m doing a reading in a life purpose reading, what I’m seeing is actually the spirit guide, giving me information about the sitter. So in that example, where I connected with an angel, they were telling me things about the sitter’s childhood, things that they did as children and things that they did interacting with their family. And what I saw was the angel showing me those things about that person’s childhood. So I saw in detail Mickey mouse ears, for example, balloon animals, things that I could never just come up with. And then it’s up to the sitter to say, “oh yeah, that’s why this is meaningful to me”. Right? That’s how I interpret that person’s or that ‘guides information.

Johnny Burke: I’ve noticed quite a few times that when people have near -death experiences, and they see past relatives, the relatives often look like they’re in their prime; much younger, and vibrant. Do you find the same thing in your mediumship readings or not necessarily?

Vicky McGrath: Yes. I would say that’s a hundred percent true that, often they will come up as their younger selves, whether that’s for the benefit of the sitter or whether that’s how they would like to be remembered. The thing about our past loved ones is that they don’t look like that anymore. They’re there in spirit. You can’t actually see them. So they come through how they want the sitter to see them to remember them to understand. Also the time of their life- how was that meaningful for them and the sitter? So if they’re in their prime, you know, maybe that’s when they had a connection or a relationship. They don’t want the sitter to remember when they were old and, and passing and weak and, and perhaps had a terrible disease, they want them to remember that they were vigorous and young and that they had this great job or that, that they did this great thing.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Now, speaking of evidential, mediumship, can you give us an example of such a thing from your own readings?

Vicky McGrath: There are four main clairs- so that people understand what I’m talking about. Clairvoyance is when you see things. So for me, clairvoyance is my strongest clair. I see pictures. So pictures dropping into your mind that you would not have any reason to have in your mind, otherwise. Claircognizance is when you just know something. So this is my second strongest. I would say that things just drop into my mind, total packages of information that I never knew I could never know that were never told to me. Clairsentience is when you feel things . For example, in a reading, I felt a pop in my right arm and the sitter told me, “Oh yes, I broke my arm.” So that’s an example of clairsentient. You feel other people’s energy, you feel other people’s emotions. And then clairaudience I would say is the fourth main. And that’s where you hear voices. I know it’s difficult to think to yourself. Well, how is that different than, having a mental illness and hearing voices? But the voice you hear it is actually in your heart, or in your throat, you don’t actually hear it in your ear or in your mind. There are others- more subtle clairs, but these are the four that kind of work through me predominantly.

So to get back to your question, if I were reading somebody that’s an example, I would read someone and I would have a feeling. I would feel the pop in my arm. I would feel a stabbing in my neck. If someone had a neck problem, I felt for example, tingling, buzzing, vibration in my feet. And I learned that the person had gout. So that’s how things come through. So not only am I seeing clear pictures, the person that I’m reading, but I’m feeling things, hearing things and knowing things all at once and it’s all coming through. Everybody has a different level of those gifts or maybe has one of those clairs that strongest for them. So they might see things more or they might feel things, or they might smell. There’s Clairgustance where you taste things. That happened when I was a teenager, I was just sitting around playing cards with my friends, and I suddenly had this sensation of eating a pork chop.

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Vicky McGrath: of course they just looked at me like I was crazy, but I didn’t know at the time what to do with that information or what it was telling me.

Johnny Burke: That reminds me of something. Once, I lived in a really old building in Los Angeles , one of my friends, told me that,” I think you have some kind of a spirit presence there” and I just kind of laughed it off. And one night I walked into the living room, and I smelled what seemed to be a very old-fashioned fragrance, the perfume of lilacs. Does that mean anything?

Vicky McGrath: Absolutely a hundred percent. You had a loved one. Someone there with you that wore that perfume and that knew that you would be able to interpret that as that person.

Johnny Burke: But how do we know it was a loved one? How do I know it wasn’t someone haunting that house?

Vicky McGrath: Well, I personally haven’t had any hauntings experience, so I can’t really speak to that. I have only ever had one experience with a deceased, loved one who lingered around after we wanted him to. It just depends on your abilities and your strengths. I don’t see earth-bound spirits who we consider ghosts. I feel presences, but I don’t know if they’re ghosts or aliens or spirit guides. So, I think if you were just smelling that perfume and it didn’t have any other sensation, a threatening sensation, or a frightening sensation or an energetic sensation, I would just say it was a loved one. And they wanted you to know they were there. with you .

Johnny Burke: Really?. Okay. I guess it’s kind of a gray area. Going back to your readings, bringing forth loved ones and, spirit guides and angels, have you come across someone’s ancestors; or people that lived long before this person, the sitter was even born. that ever happened.

Vicky McGrath: Grandparents and great-grandparents are pretty common. I have not personally experienced anyone probably beyond a grandparent, aside from spirit guides. To me, spirit guides are ancient, multidimensional beings. Who knows how old they are? But in terms of reading for deceased loved ones, I would say great-grandparents. This is as far back as I’ve received people. So for example, I’ve had a great grandparent come through in full military uniform, and that was to help the sitter understand who they were. There’s no way that they know their great-grandparents, they might’ve seen pictures, but they would never know who is coming through necessarily. So they have to come through in a way that’s meaningful for the sitter. I’ve had great grandmothers come through in aprons and sort of old-fashioned dress. Old fashioned hairstyles to be able to identify themselves as the great-grandparent.

Johnny Burke: Since we’re talking about mediumship, there’s even a book by this very title called The Medium Explosion, which is evidently happening these days; mediums, psychics, shamans, intuitives, empaths. I’ve even heard the expression, the empathic big bang. Any idea why this is happening now?

Vicky McGrath: Well, I love this question because of course, I’m among the medium explosion. Our vibration is raising higher and higher and higher. Most of us probably don’t really know what that means or even perceive that that’s what’s happening, especially when we are looking at the news, given the dialogue of the current society. But the reality is as the higher vibration, goes higher and higher, more and more hearts are opening. And that’s where the intuitive gifts pop open is when the vibration reaches a certain level and you have to have a certain level of happiness of joy of desire to create something for yourself; that calling, that longing, that yearning to create a life you love for that to happen. And so I believe that’s what’s happening. That’s my interpretation

Johnny Burke: Do you think that it’s happening now because it needs to happen now? could it be that the veil between this dimension and the others, which includes the afterlife and spirit world is actually getting thinner?

Vicky McGrath: When we talk about the veil and the interdimensional aspects, it’s individual perception of that. For me, I would say the veil is very thin because now I see spirit guides. I see deceased loved ones, not all the time, only when I want to. And that’s my choice. I have very strong, energetic boundaries.

As more of us see our spirit guides, channel inter-dimensional beings, see angels,deceased loved ones. Then more of us perceive how thin the veil is. The veil is just a description of the fact that we are currently living in this life and there are other beings living and other lives. In fact, we’re all just one big, super consciousness living in different dimensions together.

Then there are people. I’ve heard them called sheeple, right? Who are just moving along still at that lower vibration and who haven’t yet come to the point where they are going to raise their vibration and they will just continue as sheeple until they move on? Right?

Johnny Burke: I’ve never heard that before

Vicky McGrath: I love that term.

Johnny Burke: I think the choice to raise your vibration is obviously a personal one. I definitely do, but I guess I can’t speak for everyone. I never get tired of asking these questions because everyone’s a little bit different, but it’s also nice to hear confirmation over and over again, so what do you plan to do with your mediumship now?

Vicky McGrath: Right now? I’m writing a book and an online course so that I can help other spiritual newbies. I work mainly with professional or executive level career women, a midlife career woman, like myself who are on a personal development journey. They’re not really looking for a career change, but maybe they’ve outlived other roles. Maybe they’re empty nesters. Maybe they’ve had a divorce or some other transition in their life. And then they now feel this drive to, to live their purpose, to create the life that they want to live. My work now is to work with others, to help them raise their vibration, to understand their intuitive gifts, and then create a life based on their intuitive gifts that brings them happiness, joy, fulfillment, and helps them to live their purpose. So while I’m writing my book and my online course, I am also offering what I call mentorship opportunities. So if any of your listeners are interested, they can reach out to me if they’re interested. I have a few mentorship opportunities available.

Johnny Burke: Good. All right, Vicky, excellent information. Thanks for joining us today. How can people get in touch with you and learn more about you?

Vicky McGrath: Anyone that’s interested to email me. It’s vickymcgrathspiritual arts@gmail.com. If they would be interested in working with me or learning more about me and I can also send them a little gift. I have a fun visualization exercise that helps to you know, the creative juices flow for people and help them to start to feel a little happier.

#54 Scarlett Porretta: Mediumship and Messages From Spirit

January 29, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Mediums

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus, I’m Johnny Burke. Today’s guest is Scarlet Perretta. She is a clairaudient medium, Reiki Master, and manifestation coach. Today, we will be talking about how she delivers messages from spirit and loved ones from the other side. Scarlet, welcome to the program.

Scarlett Porretta: Thank you so much for having me. It’s very exciting to be on your podcast. I have to say my family is a huge fan, we’ve been listening, especially some of the more interesting stuff that you do!

Johnny Burke: You admit that?

Scarlett Porretta: I do admit it. And I was actually quite excited when you had reached out to me. So thank you so much for having me.

Johnny Burke: You’re welcome. So, you are a clairaudient medium. When did you discover that you had your intuitive gifts?

Scarlett Porretta: I’m so glad that you asked that. I was such a young girl. I don’t remember the exact age. If I had to put an age on it, it would be about four years old. Most of my strange experiences happened when I was under five years old. And as a child, you don’t even realize, ” I’m intuitive “or” I’m a medium”, you don’t realize, they are just frightening situations. And I recall seeing people at the foot of my bed, it was so strange in the middle of the night. I have great parents, so when they heard me in distress, they’d come in. That individual at the foot of my bed, I could see them as clearly as I could see my parents. And so at that point I started realizing that there was something different about me.

Johnny Burke: One of the things I’ve noticed, with any kind of medium, almost every single person reports that they were able to see spirits at an early age. I remember reading a book about Kim Russo who’s very well known, and she had the same type of experience where as you said, they were literally at the foot of her bed. A lot of people associate psychic mediums with clairvoyance, right? But you are a clairaudient medium. So what are the chief differences?

Scarlett Porretta: I think it’s almost now become a word that people use for, describing mediums. You know, the marketing side of things. The truth of the matter is anybody who is a medium will be receiving information in a variety of different ways. Clairaudient is one of them, Claircognizance, Clair empathy- there’s a whole number of senses that we pick up. I am predominantly clairaudient. What that means is I hear sounds, I hear words, you know, noise, voices. Hence, Scarlet’s whispers, and it’s very different from a clairvoyant. Because clairvoyants typically see things. They’ll see symbols or images or visions, they get vivid dreams, they can see energy around people. , Clairaudients are people who are musically inclined, typically. Sometimes people will be driving, they’re on their way to the office. And then they hear a voice say, “take the next exit.” And then they arrive to their office, and they realize, something saved them from a terrible accident. So you hear things, and that’s what I predominantly do. I do hear in the other sense as well, but predominantly I hear whispers -can get a little freaky at times.

Johnny Burke: Okay. So it would make sense musicians can be clairaudient, because they practice, and they try to write songs, they can kind of hear. I remember Axel, from, Guns and Roses, in a very early interview was saying how sometimes he gets his best ideas when he’s like brushing his teeth, you know, something completely random. But on the subject of clairaudience, I interviewed a woman recently who wrote books based on her clairaudience skills, but she said she’s not a medium. Is it possible to be clairaudient and not be a medium?

Scarlett Porretta: I have difficulty with that because you’re channeling, she’s not recognizing where the information is coming from. And I think every medium is going to be a little bit different. Some mediums will pick up information from their own guides. Some mediums will pick up information from angels. Some mediums will pick up information from other spirit guides. Everyone’s a little bit different,

I remember when I was working out at the gym, pre-COVID of course. I noticed the gym had about five different fitness trainers. And one fitness trainer would specialize in weight loss. Another one would specialize in bodybuilding. Another one was in rehabilitation from physical injuries, but they’re all fitness trainers. It is no different than mediums. This was my aha moment that I had Johnny. Mediums are the same way. Psychics are the same way. Intuitive are the same way. We all have an ability, but we all are doing it just a little bit different. Our specialty or calling is a little different

Johnny Burke: Since he brought that up- channeling, I actually have a relative- her name is Maria. I’m not going to mention her last name because she might be embarrassed. She has had several dreams of family members and friends who have passed and some of them have telepathically given her messages about some of the people that are living. And she recently went to go see a psychic, and the psychic told Maria that “you are a medium. ”

Scarlett Porretta: Right.

Johnny Burke: Does that make sense?

Scarlett Porretta: It certainly does.

Johnny Burke: I think it’s important for people. To be aware of this type of thing, because whether You want to call it medium, empath, intuitive, it happens a lot more than we realize. And going back to the childhood experiences, you don’t really know what to think of it then until you get older, and then you have an aha moment, like, “oh that’s what it was.” So we know that many people are skeptical about mediums. What kind of examples can you give us about evidential mediumship in your practice and explain what that means for our listeners?

Scarlett Porretta: No, it makes sense. Listen, I’m skeptical too. I really respect those that are skeptical because they are striving to understand this no different than anybody else. They’re striving. They want some information. They want something concrete. You know, this realm, we want things that are tangible are big challenges though. The stuff that I do, none of it is tangible. So it’s difficult. I hope one day that science will be able to validate a little bit deeper for us.

But when it comes to evidence, I love doing, paranormal investigation. Sometimes I do it professionally, sometimes I do it for fun. And when I say I do it for fun, I say that tongue in cheek, of course, because I’m always looking for evidence myself; how is this happening? Why is it happening? there have been a couple of incidences. My very first fascinating experience was I was invited to do a paranormal investigation at someone’s home. We had the equipment running, the night vision cameras, the EDPs are recording, things like that. We’re sitting in the basement of this place and it’s myself, my better half, and two friends of ours who are avid professional paranormal investigators, and we’re sitting in the dark, having casual conversation about what we’re feeling and what’s happening.

Out of the blue, I hear a whistle. So I hear this whistle and one of the other gals, she picked up, she says, “you know what? I thought I heard something in that direction as well. “Well, the best part is after reviewing the EDPs from the evening, it actually came out. So what you hear is the whistle. It’s just a very faint whistle. And then you hear me say, “oh my goodness, did you hear that? did you hear that whistle?” You could hear the whistle that I heard. And that to me was like, oh my goodness, that was a great validation for me because when you’re hearing these whispers, it happens all the time. This is not something that necessarily shuts off, you know? So it’s one of those things where sometimes you wonder, what was I hearing.

Another time, this actually happened last Halloween. Here in Ontario, we were on lockdown. And a lot of my clients were disappointed that Halloween had locked us down. so we did a live paranormal investigation via zoom. And so I had an audience, and we had equipment, and everybody could see what was happening on the equipment. And one of my audience members who happened to be also very good client of mine, we were talking about her mother. What was incredible as I could feel this presence move into the room. Like I hear the energy. It’s so bizarre-, hear this energy moving in. And so now my spidey senses are heightened and I’m paying closer attention to that energy.

And then suddenly I see this big orb, Johnny. I’ve never seen anything like it before that big. And it was bright, and it was maybe about six inches in diameter and it floats in, it takes a look at the camera. It sits in front of the camera as if, to say hello to everybody. It pauses there and then it darts right past me. And so it comes in, you can see my face on the camera, and he could see my face being, you know, a little inquisitive about it. And then I’m gasping, because I see this. And as I go to say, “Can anybody else see this?” It darts past me. The audience gasped. So not only did others witnessed it, but we caught the whole thing on camera, and you could literally see it float in. So even though it wasn’t visible at that point, you could see that I’m reacting.

Johnny Burke: It’s amazing that you mentioned that. A lot of us are familiar with, the Netflix show Surviving Death, and there was a segment on that type of phenomena; orbs and flashes of light, which you couldn’t see it at the moment, but I think it required a certain type of film. And another segment, where a lot of this took place back when everybody had Polaroids, because of the, the certain type of film, it showed up. But when they switched to a different type of film, that light did not show up. But you’re saying. That, you are able to see it on the video playback?

Scarlett Porretta: Yeah. And at one point we could actually see it. Like I was not the only person that was seeing it when it floated in front of the camera and appeared like almost to say hello to everyone. It was absolutely fascinating. It was absolutely fascinating.

Johnny Burke: Incredible. Tell us a little bit about your experiences with angels, spirit guides and guardian angels, and those entities that help with the messaging and the connection in your work.

Scarlett Porretta: In my work, when I came into this, I came into it maybe a little bit naive, and, hoping of course that everything was white light. Having this notion that whatever is communicating with us, is spirit. And spirit is other human beings who have passed on. That’s not always the case. Sometimes, we’re receiving information from our loved ones on the other side. Sometimes they are more of the divine nature, and sometimes their entities are Lower vibrational beings of any kind. And of course, then there’s ghosts. We wonder what’s the difference between.

Then ghosts are even broken down. Like a ghost is someone who has remained stuck in a particular location that they passed away. Either they don’t recognize that they’ve passed away or, there’s unfinished business, so they’re sticking to that particular location. And then aside of that is where a ghost is it’s just residual energy. So in other words, if an individual walked through their front entrance, over their lifetime, like thousands of times, even though that that, that front door is now a solid wall, you will still see that activity coming and going. as if it was still a front door. So that is more what is called residual energy. So there are different types of things that you can pick up. Predominantly I work with spirit and spirit guides.

Johnny Burke: When you say spirit, and spirit guides, Spirit is, is it God? Is its source? Is it the Akashic records? Is it the quantum realm? Or are all those terms basically describing the same entity?

Scarlett Porretta: in some cases they are describing the same entities and in others, there are different. Creatures out there, some talk about, channeling friendly aliens, things like that. In my work, if I have to do this, I set boundaries quite honestly. When I’m reading someone, I’m channeling I strictly want to speak to their spirit guides, any guardian angels and their loved ones on the other side. So I’ve set those boundaries. That doesn’t mean that I’m not able to channel other things. It’s just in a setting. That’s what I’m requesting, because otherwise, you can get all kinds of strange things. You’ve got to be to be really, really careful. You got to protect yourself; your space, protect yourself internally, externally. By doing that, you protect the individual that you’re reading, as well. it can get tricky. I can get interesting let me tell you.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that several times before about, protecting yourself, and the people around you. Whether people are going into reading, or just going about their daily rituals, what’s a good way for us to protect ourselves?

Scarlett Porretta: Maybe one that people don’t want to hear. But eating well, if you’re eating high vibrational food versus low vibrational food, higher vibrational food of course is fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, food that’s from the earth and from the sun and the air. The minute that it starts becoming manmade, we’ve got to be very, very careful, of how the vibration is lowering. And then of course, recreational drugs or alcohol, these are things that you definitely want to stay away from prior to doing anything paranormal. Whether you’re going in for a reading, whether you want to play with your tarot cards, or you’re going to have some fun with your friends and go check out a haunted location, you got to be very, very careful. Anytime you do anything. even caffeine, believe it or not, anything that will alter your natural state. it actually lowers your aura, your energy field, and it allows, lower vibrational entities to what I call infect your being.

Johnny Burke: When you contact a past loved one for the sitter, how do you know it’s really them and not just some random spirits? Speaking of which..

Scarlett Porretta: Yeah, it’s one thing that I take with responsibility as I feel and hear someone enter my space. I have this quiet conversation with them in my mind’s eye. And I ask for validation. And for me, validation will come in a number of ways. it’ll be in their personality traits, whether they’re funny or not. it’ll be in the way that they passed away- how it felt, or an illness, or an accident. They will validate something that my sitter will understand, and it’s not necessarily common. You see some readers out there and they’ll say, oh, I see someone who’s coming in with the letter M or Jane. Well, if you do any research, you’ll recognize the majority of names start with either an M or a G. So it’s a hit or miss, you know? I don’t validate like that. And as a matter of fact, I really kind of suck at actually guessing names. I’ll get the sounds of the names, but they don’t show me I’m because I’m clairaudient. But I’ll pick up sounds, with respect to their name. But it’s stuff that will be personal to the person that I’m reading.

Johnny Burke: So you’re basically asking whoever comes through, can you please give me some validation. Interesting. That I’ve never heard before, but that does make a lot of sense.

Scarlett Porretta: Sometimes I need to actually vocally tell them to calm down. Most of the conversation happens in my mind’s eye, but if I find that sometimes they’re getting a little, I’m like, “okay, take it easy. I hear that message, going to respect it. And I just need you to settle down.”

Johnny Burke: So between the validation, the evidential mediumship, and mediums being certified, which we haven’t talked about yet, those are, some really good pieces for people to understand. Because I’ve talked to several mediums that actually went through programs like that. the Forever Family Foundation is one that I know of, but every time someone tells me about certification, the procedure is exactly the same. They’re given five back-to-back Skype interviews, and then the organization who’s doing the oversight will then interview the sitters and ask them several questions. From what I’ve heard is that most mediums, when they go through these programs, most don’t make it.

Scarlett Porretta: Yeah. And I can understand that too. And it might not be that they’re necessarily not a good medium. Maybe they just still need time to develop. That can be the case with someone who’s just testing out or coming into that awareness. I like what you’re saying, and I’m so glad that you’re raising that issue because I believe it’s important to deal with a reputable medium. Because otherwise, most people that come to us, they’re in a state of heartbreak. And so they’re vulnerable, they can be taken advantage of, unfortunately. So you just, want to look out for a few things. So one thing you want to look out for someone who is certified, you want to look out for someone who is reputable if they’re not certified. truthfully, I myself am not actually certified, but I have been tested,

Johnny Burke: it’s pretty much the same,

Scarlett Porretta: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: It’s the same process.

Scarlett Porretta: Yes, and it is, and I know here in Canada, we don’t necessarily have, certification courses or it’s not as prevalent, but I know in the states, there are a lot of courses to get that certification. But I have been tested by what we call elders, where I’ve done readings for them. And my accuracy was tested. And then let me tell you to Johnny, when I’m doing my audience readings, that’s the biggest test ever because you’re in front of a bunch of people staring at you and you got to be able to validate in front of a whole bunch of people, you know,

Johnny Burke: if you’re not doing it word is going to get out pretty quickly. Marketing 1 0 1; a good experience versus a bad experience- that person that had a bad experience is going to tell four times as many people.

Scarlett Porretta: So true. And I just want to add for our listeners out there, if a medium is advertising things like 100% accuracy, I’m sorry, none of us are going to be a hundred percent accurate because it depends on spirit.

I remember doing an audience reading, and there was a lady in the audience, and I kept being drawn to her. And then all of a sudden, I would have blank. And I would look at her and I would say, “I know that there’s a message for you. It’s just as soon as I come to you, I draw a blank.” And it happened a couple of. times during that audience reading. I really felt foolish. I have to be honest. I felt badly for this lady who badly wanted to hear from someone. She came to me personally, like one-on-one privately. And as soon as she sat down, her husband wouldn’t stop talking. And I looked at her I said, “oh my God, your husband’s here” And he’s saying this, and he’s saying that. And she said,” well, that’s who I really wanted to hear from in the audience. “And immediately he whispers to me, “I didn’t want to talk in front of everybody.” it was that simple and she started to giggle. She said, “that’s exactly how he is. He’s very private.”

so, they’re like no different than us when you’re channeling a loved one on the other side. They are no different than you and I. And there’s going to be times where they feel comfortable talking. Maybe they don’t feel comfortable talking to someone, but they’ll feel comfortable talking to someone else. And not only that, but some of them are very good at communicating and some of them are not, it’s almost like playing the piano. You’ll get someone who comes in and plays the piano beautifully. And then you’ll get someone who’s pounding away on the piano, right? So that can happen as well to spirit, we have to really respect and honor that. The other thing too is you got to be very, very careful about someone who says to you, “oh, you’ve got a curse, I I’ve got to remove it. ” I had one client, 22 years old, this young girl and lady that did a reading for her, said that she’s got a curse. It’s in her stomach. And if she doesn’t do something, it’s going to go into the stomach of her father and it’s going to cause havoc in the family. And so when the girl was talking to me, I said, “pray tell how much to remove this curse. ” $2,700. I was so disgusted.

Johnny Burke: That brings up another thing I’ve been curious about; it seems like there should be licenses for mediums. And when you do something heinous, like that situation you just described, your license is revoked.

Scarlett Porretta: There should be accountability. I know of people who get scammed for $30,000. Let me assure you, a good medium, a good intuitive, or a good psychic, they are not going to try to freak you out in any way, shape or form.

Johnny Burke: And hopefully those people get outed, because I’m not one of those people that is waving the medium flag. I’m not promoting or trying to discourage anyone. But I think this is a very sensitive topic, and people need to be aware of certain things. That it is legitimate, but like you said, you have to be very careful. You are also a Reiki master, right? How does that contribute to the work you do as a medium how closely related is it?

Scarlett Porretta: well, first I want to say that I don’t practice Reiki. It was something that as I was awakening, I wanted to do things that would develop my skillset. And so I don’t formally, practice. I just have the certification for it what it does for me, especially because I’m predominantly clairaudient. it helps me to hear and feel and agree. Whereas maybe someone else would be able to see it. I won’t see it, and so it helps me to hear their soul to feel their soul. And it also helps me during a reading because if I’ve got to do this, Johnny, I made a pact with my guides and the universe that I will do this, but I’m only going to do it if I’m going to be putting someone back on their soul’s path. I don’t need to delve into their private life, that past stuff. Like I don’t need to impress people with, that kind of information. I need to help people with peace and clarity so that they can fulfill their soul’s contract and their soul’s purpose. And so Reiki assists me. It enables me to do that kind of energy clearing. Really without my reader knowing even and help them to move forward in a positive way.

Johnny Burke: Soul contracts- love that concept. Soul contracts, conjure that image of someone going into that in-between space, life in between lives, where they go into a soul contract with certain people, a group of people they agree to come back because they’ve got stuff to work on.

So do you get exposed to, a time-space continuum and your work that is different from the way we understand time in a linear fashion?

Scarlett Porretta: I’m actually going to simplify it

Johnny Burke: it’s tricky.

Scarlett Porretta: It is, we do come into this realm with a purpose. I deal with a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of educated people. We talk a lot about mindset. “Oh, and mindset is the end all and be all for success. “Well, I’m going to say no, it’s not. It’s just a small fragment. if we have a strong mindset, we can succeed and we’re doing a great job at it, but we feel like something is missing- we’re not content. We don’t feel fulfilled, and sometimes I meet with people and they’re in crisis, they’re fabulously successful, but they’re in crisis, and suddenly their soul is reaching out and saying, “excuse me, I’m here and I want to be heard.” you were put here for a purpose. You’ll see people who are out there, and they’ll say I’m happy with life, but I don’t feel like I’m on the right path.

Johnny Burke: The path.

Scarlett Porretta: That’s more what I’m referring to; how people experience it is going to be very personal and very different, for each. I’m here to help people, to guide them towards that path their soul is content.

Johnny Burke: So you don’t really get into that space of where you’re in the Akashic records and you can see the past, the present, and the future on some kind of axis. You don’t have anything to do with that.

Scarlett Porretta: Always. Sometimes it depends on who I’m reading of what is needed in that moment. And I recall, talking about seeing that on an axle, the way that you explain it. I recall doing a reading many, many years ago and a young girl came to see me. And she was really, really in distressed, she didn’t even know where her life was supposed to be moving. I could see her past. and I could see that she was thrown in jail by the man that she loves, who framed her. She had stayed in jail for a good week, until they were able to prove her innocent and that experience was creating such disarray and confusion for her actual soul purpose. And so in that moment, I did see it. I was able to communicate it. I was able to see where she is today and where she is going in the future. Now, what I also experienced was how embarrassed she was that I had seen that and she said to me, “I was hoping and I was afraid that you were going to see it I was hoping that you would not.”

That reading was very pivotal for me in my career, because I, at that point, I said I don’t necessarily need to see what’s happened to them. I need to know how their soul was feeling in that moment. And from there, I will then take them to the present where they are today, and how they’re feeling today and what’s happening. And then I will guide them to their future.

Johnny Burke: When you mentioned this particular girl, and you saw her past, that was in the current life, that was not a past life.

Scarlett Porretta: Correct.

Johnny Burke: But have you had an experience where you did see someone’s past life?

Scarlett Porretta: It has happened. It doesn’t happen often, but it has happened, especially for people who are living. if they don’t understand why their life is in such turmoil today, or why they have such bad luck with relationships, or why did their soul guide them to go into a gang? things like that. It will happen from time to time. Yes, but not often.

Johnny Burke: I suppose that might happen if it’s relevant to the current turmoil that they’re experienced now, very interesting stuff because it seems like once you kind of wade into the water,

Scarlett Porretta: It takes you all over the place.

Johnny Burke: You think, look over there, it’s getting a lot deeper. I can’t even see the bottom 20 feet away from me. Do I really want to go there?

Scarlett Porretta: And you described that perfectly

Johnny Burke: I think it’s a proper analogy, because a lot of us are fascinated with the unknown. And nowadays, with a lot of people talking about awakening, and ascension, raising our vibe, there’s also, almost like an explosion of psychics, and mediums, an empaths. I heard the term the other day – the empath big bang.

Scarlett Porretta: That’s interesting.

Johnny Burke: You suppose that has anything to do with Ascension or this shift that we’re apparently experiencing? Or what exactly is that.?

Scarlett Porretta: I absolutely do. And I know that you and I had a previous conversation, we talked about 3 D moving towards 5 D you know? And not to be confused, what we’re referring to when we talk about 3 D in this context- we’re talking about third dimension and five dimensions. Not to be confused with density, because there are situations where people describe things as third density, fourth density, and so on. We’re strictly referring to 3 D, the D being dimension and the D of course, referring to spiritual growth. I believe humanity goes into waves and we were experiencing a lot of 3 D.

And how do I quickly explain that to our listeners? Well, that’s what I called the survival hamster wheel of life. You wake up, you get onto the hamster wheel and very mindlessly, you start just rolling along in that hamster wheel, right? You’re not really thinking, you’re not really feeling. You’re just moving from one thing to another to another. So you wake up, you have maybe a cup of coffee, get in the car, you go to work and then you work, then you come home? And you did the same thing, so you’re trapped in this .

And this hamster wheel of life, filled very much with what I refer to as ego, and a lot of self-doubt, low self-esteem, fear and anxiety, where we’re really not in tune with who we are as beings, versus 5 D, where we now are moving away from that hamster wheel. And you’re manifesting things a lot quicker. You’re understanding that the universe is here to be of service to you and for you to trust the universe. So you’re coming from a place of unconditional love, understanding, forgiveness, awareness that the universe is actually plotting to do you good.

So it’s actually two different ways of living. When you’re in 5 D, you’re searching for nourishing your soul and doing things that nourish your soul. When you’re in 3 D, you’re only focused on the physical realm, the mindset and that’s it.

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard people talk about the great year concept, which sounds very similar to what you are describing,

Scarlett Porretta: Yeah,

Johnny Burke: In a nutshell, consciousness goes in cycles up and down, like stock market.

And hopefully, we are now, moving into the rough equivalent of a bronze age. I sure hope so. Because the last couple of years it seems like we’re hitting bottom.

Scarlett Porretta: I know it feels very painful. It feels very

Johnny Burke: really painful.

Scarlett Porretta: People are searching to project certain anger, and others are searching to project love. We can either live in fear, or we can live in love. We cannot do both. To just go back to what you had mentioned about an explosion of mediums and psychics-

Johnny Burke: is it what we need?

Scarlett Porretta: I believe that we are finally realizing that it is a lot more normal than we ever thought, and there’s a lot more acceptance. Those of us that are like-minded and not just like-minded, like-hearted, we’re coming together. We’re talking, we’re sharing experiences. I’m sure some of our listeners will resonate with this. When I say that, you’re sitting there, you’re in your office and someone all of a sudden comes into your office and starts blabbing about a paranormal experience. And they say, “oh my goodness, don’t tell anybody that I had that experience, they’re going to think I’m a whack job.” Right. But then that other person goes, “well, wait a second- I had a similar experience too, so you’re not a whack job- I’m there with you.”

And so people are starting to talk and we’re starting to realize that these experiences that we had in hiding, , We were afraid of being judged. We’re finding now that we’re congregating, we’re being pulled together by the universe. We find that it’s a lot more common, a lot more natural. I firmly believe in, as an intuitive medium. You’re clairaudient as well. And I believe that the majority of our listeners have some kind of ability. It’s just how we’re being called to use it.

Johnny Burke: Really interesting. I’ve never heard it explained that way. I always thought that dimension and density were roughly the same thing, but you’re saying it isn’t. At any rate in a 5 D civilization, these intuitive guests were talking about- mediums and empaths and so on, that’s normal.

Scarlett Porretta: It is normal.

Johnny Burke: One of my favorite illustrations of that is, I was told by some people that are firmly in that intuitive empath camp. They have this attraction and this fascination with Egypt. And it was explained to me that. some of the pyramids, maybe most of them, were built with telepathy; it wasn’t the slave labor as described in the Bible. But this is going back what, 10,000 years?

It’s about the time of the great flood. But the more and more we talk about it, it seems like some of our civilizations thousands of years ago live in that space, but then that frequency peaked and then it went down. Does that make sense?

Scarlett Porretta: Completely makes sense. And everything seems to begin and end with Egypt. I just have to have a giggle with you there.

Johnny Burke: Why is that?

Scarlett Porretta: I don’t know. I feel drawn to it as well, you know? it’s crazy because my daughter and her boyfriend had gone backpacking, and Egypt was on their bucket list. They did actually go into Egypt, and they were able to go into a few of the temples like ISIS has a temple, and they were able to go into some of the pyramids as well as much as, you know, tourism would allow.

Because I love Egypt so much and for some reason, I feel drawn to it. They were able to take a different kind of photo with these goggles,.All I know is when I put those goggles on and I could see as if I was there, I felt emotional. Like that was my home. It was so bizarre, and of course, we know that it’s resonating with us for a reason. I believe that there’s a lot more magic; a lot more to what we know. And it’s going to be difficult. Will we ever figure it out? Who knows?

Johnny Burke: I don’t know either, but what I find fascinating about Egypt, is that there doesn’t seem to be a period of development. They just appeared, and they were already very advanced. And of course, we don’t have time to go into this now, but there’s the connection between Egypt and Atlantis and it could be that area, that period is where we’re going to learn how to get back to where we were,

Scarlett Porretta: I agree with you there.

Johnny Burke: elevated consciousness, so to speak.

Scarlett Porretta: Maybe we’ll never know, maybe those that have gone in there that have studied, maybe they have information that then maybe they’ll never share with us. Who knows? But we do know that there are really interesting markings, really interesting ways of life. Maybe one day get to know the whole picture.

Johnny Burke: You are preparing to launch your podcast. it’s called the soul talk podcast.

Scarlett Porretta: Right.

Johnny Burke: Medium experiences, which, sounds very cool.

Scarlett Porretta: Thank you.

Johnny Burke: We hope to hear some episodes where you talk about validation and evidential mediumship and, things like that. What other topics might you cover?

Scarlett Porretta: I really appreciate you mentioning that because I’m really excited about launching soul talk this fall. In my experience, I’m noticing that our soul is undernourished. And so I’ll be speaking to people who have dedicated their business to anything that nourishes the soul. Some of my guests are, healers, shamans, some of my guests will be someone who actually came up with a tarot coloring book, that you open the page, you color, and you ponder the message of that tarot card that has just opened up in the book. There’s so many things that I’ll be discussing with various people who’ve dedicated their lives to nourishing our soul.

Johnny Burke: Sounds great. That’s going to be something definitely worth looking forward to. Scarlet, thanks so much for joining us today.

Scarlett Porretta: Thank you for having me.

Johnny Burke: How can our listeners learn more about you?

Scarlett Porretta: They can find me on Facebook or Instagram at Scarlet’s soul cafe. it’s Scarlet with one T. I know sometimes they try to find me with two T’s and it’s difficult, or they can send me a message on my website at Scarlets-whispers.com.