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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Dr. Bruce Kaloski. He’s an internationally recognized leader in the hypnotherapy, motivational psychology, and past life regression disciplines. He’s also the author of Your Journey Was Never Meant To End. Today, we will be talking about past and parallel lives, the multiverse and the possibility of reincarnating into the past. Dr. Bruce, welcome. Welcome back to the show.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Thank you, Johnny. It’s a pleasure to be here as always.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. for those of you that may not have seen Dr. Bruce’s first episode, I believe it was number four, now we’re on number 1 38, I think. So why don’t you, for a refresher, tell us how did you find yourself exploring past lives and reincarnation?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: I grew up in an aviation family on Long Island. and I’m going back to the 1950s. My father was a fighter pilot during the Second World War, he, was one of these I guess you call a Renaissance man. He was interested in everything.

We owned an airport after the war and he used to use hypnosis to help his students pass the flight exams on hypnosis.

And one was a very seminal book, actually what brought reincarnation to the mass public interest, The Search for Bridey Murphy.

Johnny Burke: I remember you telling me that.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah, Maury Bernstein hypnotized a gal, sent her back. She told about her life, she lived in 18 hundreds, Ireland, and I asked him about that, and we discussed it. He believed that he was reincarnated as a World War I fighter pilot who, went down in flames over France, didn’t make it out. I don’t know if he was shut down by the red baron or not, but he was a fighter pilot again in the Second World War. that one, he survived. I got interested in it. and started off doing it, experimenting with my friends and family. I can do this. what do they say? I jumped out of a plane and built my parachute on the way down

Johnny Burke: I don’t remember. Maybe we didn’t talk about hypnotizing, the fighter pilots for the exam, but that makes perfect sense and I’m sure that it’s not the only case of using hypnosis in order to pass any type of exam for that matter. After the first interview, I don’t know where I got this idea, but I had the urge to ask you, is it possible for someone to reincarnate into the past?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah. and I believe it is. I believe it is because the interconnectivity of past president future at all times are one. And we didn’t make this up. A fellow by the name of Albert Einstein believed that he said past, present, future exists simultaneously, and the quantum physicists are beginning to recognize this and do experiments this.

We think of time in a chronological or a linear sense. If this is 2020s, we might have lived previously in the early part of the 20th century, and then before that in the 18 hundreds or 17 hundreds. And that your lives proceed chronologically or linearly in that way. But there’s many who believe, and I’m one of them, that we kind of jump around. Maybe the next life can be back in the 15 hundreds.

Johnny Burke: That would actually be pretty cool if it was possible. And I’ve heard the idea of everything happening all at once. I remember I interviewed a woman her name was Holly Duckworth, and I believe she was a student and perhaps, I guess an acolyte of Dolores Cannon. And she was saying there are no past lives because they all happen at once. It’s as if you could take the scale, like this is, let’s say the Middle Ages. This is the present and it’s basically shifted this way. I don’t really know how to imagine that, but apparently people that have had those experiences with the past life memories and the near-death experiences, they say the same thing about time. It’s not like we know it here.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: And she’s right. I agree with her, but we use that as a term because people can wrap their heads around that. You’re not going to change people to think of simultaneous or even parallel lives although we may discuss it, but we humans live in a world that is chronological in order. That’s a term that serves us; past lives, but it probably really isn’t past lives. I read an excellent article only yesterday. It’s a synchronistic. This would’ve come about from a Nobel Prize winner from University of Cambridge on, how the certain quantum physicists, certain quantum physics experiments might indicate that the present can influence the past on a quantum basis. It’s called a retrocausality. Fascinating article. but again, this is happening on a quantum basis.

Johnny Burke:

I would think so. And I was just about to ask about that, past lives versus parallel lives. I’ve had a variety of people on the show, and we’ve talked about in some cases, dreams where a dream life can present an existence where they experience an environment and people that are familiar, but they’ve never physically been there.

The last time I asked a speaker about that, she said that’s most likely a parallel life. Now, in your work, the past life regression and life between lives, which we’ll discuss in a moment, have you had any instances of someone describing what sounds like a parallel life?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah, all the time and that’s what first introduced me to parallel lives. Parallel lives was a concept that was first introduced by a friend of mine, his name was Dick Sutphen. Dick was one of the big names in this field of reincarnation, past lives. Dick was before Brian Weiss, let me put it this way. Dick was originally an ad man on Madison Avenue, and he wrote a book You Were Born Again To Be Together. And in it he spoke about parallel lives.

The theory behind that, between parallel lives is that I could be living here in Southern California, Huntington Beach, Surf City, USA. But there is also another me, part of my soul who might be living in Timbuktu having a lifetime there. Doesn’t mean we’re the same age, and we could overlap. And this all comes from the concept of the Oversoul. And the theory behind the Oversoul is that we just don’t have one soul. segments of a larger soul unit that all comprise johnny Burke is a part of a, soul unit, an Oversoul. Not to confused with Soul Group, so, there may be hundreds of soul segments or fragments that one is Johnny right now. The other one is, Fred over in Liverpool and who knows?

Johnny Burke: I’ve had this happen actually quite a bit, I’ll be dreaming about something and immediately these people are familiar, the place is familiar, but obviously I’ve never physically been there and I’m thinking, is this my imagination or? And some of the intuitives will say, more than likely, it’s either a past life or like you just explained It’s a parallel life, which I think is really fascinating.

Dr Bruce Kaloski:

I saw that in my practice particularly when I used to do seminars, all day seminars. And I’d take people into several different past life regressions, and they would go back to around the same time period. And then, after the session

I would discuss it with the group, and I’d go around the room and they’d say, “this is weird, this is odd. “They say, “oh, well it was still the 1980s or it was still the 1990s, but then again it was a different place, it was me.”

Johnny Burke: it’s a much different place. What has been your experience, if any, with the multiverse, either with you or with any of your clients?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Well, it could be that what we’re tapping into let’s say, a parallel life, is, life that is ongoing, but in an alternate universe in a different timeline The theory is that at the Big Bang, all these timelines branched off and that, each time you make a particular decision, a major decision in your life, that timeline branches off and establishes a new one, and in effect, another universe or a timeline within another universe. That could be another explanation for parallel lives or the oversoul explanation.

Johnny Burke: it would seem to be somewhat connected. It’s something that’s starting to come up a lot in the interviews. That and Ascension and raising our vibration, it’s, probably a different conversation, but they do tend to come up. in the same discussions. So in your work, obviously you do the past life regression, sessions, which are different from past life readings, or so I’m told. What about the life in between life space? Is it common for readings or not really? ?????

Dr Bruce Kaloski: No, as a past life regression practitioner, it’s not going to happen unless I direct a person towards that. It usually doesn’t happen. It could happen spontaneously in the course of a session where a person will find themselves in the in-between state. But that is a separate session. It’s called a life between lives or between lives. I think Michael Newton coined the term, life between lives. I think he patented that title or copyrighted it. There were other researchers that spoke about our lifetime spent between lifetimes. some people use the term home, the afterlife, what do you do? There are activities that take place between your death in one lifetime and your birth in the next. In that type of session, which is a very popular one by the way, the way I do it, I take the people back the lifetime directly prior to this one. Now I believe time is not linear. So when I take them back, their last lifetime lived could bathe 1930s, 1940s. It could be in the 15 hundreds if we accept the non-linearity of time.

So the last lifetime they lived. A brief overview of that life just to get some, good details and then through the death experience. And then in the in-between state. What happens in the in-between state, they would meet and communicate with their spirit guides, with their soul group, the people that they travel with and the souls that they travel with from lifetime to lifetime and interact with them.

Whoever you happen to believe, do we come here to learn, or we come here just to have experiences. And in the experience, we learn. That’s another topic, the purpose of that or even if there is a purpose. and then, they interact with their soul group. They interact with their spirit guide. They get kind of I use the term loosely report card. This is how you did in this life. This is what you could do better the next time around. They take part in certain activities there. Many believe, and I’ve seen it in my sessions, they go before highly advanced, I guess in the corporate structure of the universe, they would come right under the chairman of the board, and then, that is a council, and we think of them as ascended masters they no longer need to incarnate. and they’re usually in a group, most of the time there’s like three of them. But I’ve had the sessions where there’s been eight or 12 of them, and you go before them. It’s usually right before you’re ready to come into the next incarnation and you have to ask them questions, everybody wants to know, what’s it all about, you know?
What can I be doing? What did I do, should I have done in that previous life? And since all time is one, they also know what’s going on in this life. So what can I be doing better in this life? They may help you plan your coming lifetime. Or you could experience yourself planning your coming lifetime with your soul group or whoever you’re meant to live it with. You’re writing the scripts like a bunch of script writers get together up in Hollywood and write a script.

In a between lives state, you get to see your different choices. Because you do have choices. Let’s say I want to be a female, a buxom blonde that looks like Marilyn Monroe the next time around. Or maybe I want to be a burly truck driver or whatever. I want to live in this part of the world, and you make plans to do that. And who are you going to play these scenes with? Who’s going to be in the movie with you, in other words?

Johnny Burke: It’s amazing that no matter who I ask about this, about the in-between space, the details are obviously going to vary about the mechanics, like you just said, it’s like casting a movie. It happens with every single discussion. You meet your soul group, your soul family.

And you made it sound as if there’s script writers and it’s almost like someone’s your agent and said,” you can play this movie or this movie, but the roles available are this, this, and this.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Exactly. That’s the way it does seem to happen. And you can change the script. we have a friend who’s a writer up in LA, she writes for some of the, shows on tv and a lot of times they’ll send her out on location because they’re going to do a rewrite right there.

So that’s why I personally don’t believe that everything is predetermined. Some of my disagree with me. They believe that your life is predestined. I believe that it’s like a Hollywood script. It is not set in stone. it’s going to follow a certain pattern, but it can be changed.

Johnny Burke: Okay. and I’ve heard both as well. One of the things that came out recently with a medium, and we were talking about the in-between space. She seemed to be under the impression that in order to ascend we have to take on difficult chores, difficult obstacles, difficult lives in order to ascend to the point where we don’t need to come back anymore. Have you seen any instances that would support that or is that not necessarily true?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: I don’t believe it’s necessarily true. I don’t know they have to be so difficult. you may have to fulfill certain tasks. I don’t know if they need to be difficult or they can be difficult, and you can make that choice. I think that we all at some point get to Ascend. Some of us may take longer on the evolutionary scale, the soul evolutionary scale than others. If you look upon it as a learning process, it takes us a little longer. So I got some friends who, excelled all eight years in high school,

Johnny Burke: All eight

Dr Bruce Kaloski: All eight years. So that could be the case. but it takes them a little longer to catch on. But I don’t know that it has to be difficult. I haven’t seen that.

Johnny Burke: I would hope not it just seems like it’s such an unenviable task that you would have to choose a difficult life like suffering is rewarded with ascension. And obviously in my human life, I’m not going to have proof of that, either way, but it’s a question that does come up.

This is the first time I’ve heard the life in between life space described as the afterlife. It’s like you said, it’s the space in between incarnations where we decide if and how we’re going to come back. And is it also mandatory that we have to come back or can we just say, I have had enough, I never want to go back to earth again. I want to go to a different planet. I want to hang out with Prince and David Bowie and John Lennon, just don’t send me back Earth again.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: I think we have that choice, but I think that we ultimately do choose to come back to have a certain experience. I think our consciousness can decide, oh, I never want to see that place again. And then another couple of thousand years says, ‘well, you know, let’s give it another shot’ because remember this now, on an evolutionary or, the scale of the universe-I had this discussion once with someone says, ‘why would I choose to come back as an invalid? Why would I choose to come back incapacitated physically or mentally? I say, you’re looking at it from the wrong perspective. Three score and 10 years biblically allotted; 70 years goes by in the twinkling of an eye like that -you are looking out from your perspective right now. But when you look at the whole timeframe of eternity, that’s nothing. That’s nothing. Why do you choose the old saying, no, no pain, no gain? I don’t know about you, but how many people really love to go to the gym and subject themselves to intense pain, to build their muscles, But they’re doing it with an end result in line.

Johnny Burke: When we speak about experience, the duality thing does come up quite a bit. in order to really understand the murderer, you have to understand the victim, that type of thing, it’s a bit complex just to say the least. It is. And in order to understand that. We have to have the dark. In order to see the light you need dark, right? In order to see light, you need shade, and in order to understand good, you have to understand evil and so on and so forth, because if there were no obstacles, it would be a vanilla life and we wouldn’t learn anything. That’s what it seems like. So what else do we need to really know about the life between lives space, or did we pretty much cover what we need to know?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: I think we’ve pretty much covered it, Johnny- the life between law state. There are certain commonalities and experiences, but they can be different for everybody. the timewise, we think of in earth years, like between incarnations, someone came up with a figure, there’s about 60 to 70 years.

So that means that for 60 or 70 of those earth years you are in some in between state, between but I guess it can happen faster. Because there have been reported cases, particularly if you look at the work of Ian Stevenson, where the soul seemed to come back around within about a year or two. But these are usually people who’ve we to use the term, died before their time, what was their time? violently murdered and they come back again.

Johnny Burke: With your clients, what are some of the experiences that really stick out? That would be like a good teaching point for people that want to learn more about this?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: This is a fairly recent one and she was molested by both her father, and her brother in this life. And we did several different sessions. I did a Karma Connection session with her. It takes her back to the lifetime that is directly responsible for this particular lifetime. And, in the previous life, she was also molested by the same souls, which were then also her father and her brother. So then and the between life state, what she came up with was that she gave them a chance for them to make things right with her. They didn’t take that chance. But that’s not on her. She took that on herself this lifetime and suffered intensely because of that. And then just by going through that experience, she was able to release all of that. Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. So she’s not going to let it happen the third time.

Johnny Burke: What are some instances of clients that go back to a past life where they were the bad guy, where they inflicted harm on someone, and how is that related to what they’re experiencing in this life?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Here’s a strange thing about it, I don’t want to call it funny, is that, in our culture, particularly in the Western culture, we are enamored by crime and punishment that probably does not exist within the realm of reincarnation. Who are you punishing? Think about it. What are you punishing? You’re not punishing the body. The body’s gone. So there is no punishment. You may choose your soul, may choose to experience the flip side of the coin, but it’s not being made to experience that as a punishment. Unfortunately, in this case, the people who, who want to see, Hitler punished for his myriad crimes maybe that was just something that, was part of the movie.

Johnny Burke: Part of the movie, it was a role.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: So this particular soul is going to come around this time and be conceived of, as, the most hated man in history, who caused untold misery and harm. But that was just part of the role, just part of the play at the same time there was a whole generation that arose to combat this and brought some very good things into this world too. Spurred on by this particular soul’s evil doing. But then again, the soul didn’t do the evil, the entity or the person that it became did the evil. So I have seen no indication that souls are inherently good or bad.

Johnny Burke: They’re neither inherently good nor bad is what you’re saying?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah, they’re not inherently good and they’re not inherently bad. They just are.

Johnny Burke: The experience, which again goes back to the question about duality, seems to be the most logical explanation, which maybe was part of the movie where they have to experience both the dark and the light. Of course, we’re never going to know that until we all cross over.

For the takeaways from this, what are the most important ones for the clients and just for the rest of us who are curious about, what really happens to us when we die and what happens next?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: I think the takeaway of something like this is that, we probably have a multitude of choices in the lifetimes that we’re going to experience. And I think it all comes down to experience. We get to choose what we wish to experience from lifetime to lifetime. I believe that we can choose to have that experience chronologically in different timeframes if that would suit us. If we resonate with the roaring twenties, the 1920s, we can get to go back there and, and live it again.

Johnny Burke: That that would be very interesting,

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Maybe not as the same person, maybe as a different person.

Johnny Burke: And the experience doesn’t have a lot to do with how that’s going to benefit not only that one soul, but for the soul group as well ?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: It benefits the Soul Group again. One of the reasons that people posit about not being able to be kind to the past is the fact that then you’d have to get the whole Soul group together and to agree on something like this.

Johnny Burke: Have to agree on it.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah, Uncle Harry’s going to say, no, I’ve been there, done that. I don’t want to go back there again. You go back there again. So then that has to be worked out. So, maybe that’s where parallel, alternate universes come into. Or maybe you get to say, ‘okay, well Uncle Harry, then I don’t need you this
time around. You go on your vacation. You go to Jamaica; I’m going to go to Hawaii. and we’ll see each other when we get back.

Johnny Burke: Exactly.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: as an analogy.

Johnny Burke: Well, speaking of analogies, the one that I remember the most was an audio book that was written by the Long Island Medium, believe her name is Theresa Caputo, and she said,

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: She said, “life is like an episode of Saturday Night Live; everyone changes characters and costumes, but at the end of the night, everyone hugs. And that’s very consistent with what we’ve been talking about, with the movie and the cast and what’s available, what roles are available.

Dr Bruce Kaloski: That’s why I said that a soul is neither good nor bad. I like to watch old movies. Humphrey Bogart’s, one of my favorite actors, Bogart has played saints and he’s played sinners. But that doesn’t mean Bogey was that in the real life.

Johnny Burke: All right, anything else that we should know on the topic?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: No, I believe we are going to tell people where to reach me and I have had people say, well, how can I learn how to do this? And I do personally teach this on a one-on-one basis. I am also in the process of creating, hopefully have this by the end of the summer an online downloadable on demand program that people can access and learn how to do this through past life regression.

Johnny Burke: Wow. Okay. I will definitely put that in the show notes as well. So, Dr. Bruce, thanks again for coming back. Great information as always. Speaking of which, how can our listeners find you online?

Dr Bruce Kaloski: Very simply at www.drkaloski.com

#128 Brandi Van: Mediumship, Starseeds and The Spirit World

July 1, 2023 by Johnny Burke

Mediums, Spirit World

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. Our guest today is Brandi Van( @brandivanmedium) She is a medium, a channel, and starseed. Her work involves helping people who are grieving connect with their deceased loved ones with her mediumship readings. Today we’ll be talking about how consciousness transcends the physical form and going home to the spirit world. Brandi, welcome to the program.

Brandi Van: Hi. Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. So, without further ado, when did you discover that you had these types of intuitive abilities?

Brandi Van: So I knew at like age 10 or 12 I was playing around with the Ouija board, and I figured something was happening. And then as I got a bit older, my grandma passed away. I was about 21 years old, and we were all around her. When she took her last breath, it was, of course, very sad. Seeing her die, all my cousins were crying, and I had this intuitive feeling to look above the bed.

So I had this strong pull to look above the bed. And what I saw was just the most amazing, strongest thing I’ve ever seen. It was all these extremely brilliant, magnificent colors, and I saw that with my physical eye. And then with my mind’s eye, I was able to see her angels going in and out. They were greeting her and welcoming her to the spirit world. And I actually had to leave the room because it was so powerful, and it took me years to tell my cousins and family what had happened because I was scared no one would believe me or they thought I would be crazy.

But ever since then, I just knew I had an amazing ability and I just went on my spiritual journey from there and it really gave me a different look at death, it was more peaceful and I knew she was okay and that I would see her again.

Johnny Burke: That’s a pretty good introduction to the spirit world. Excellent. and an amazing experience. You saw Angels. I’m tempted to ask if they had wings. I what did they look like?

Brandi Van: So they were more sparks of light, but I could feel with my intuition that that’s what they were. So I don’t remember seeing wings per se, but they were more like a figure and there was this light that was making that symbol of a figure.

Johnny Burke: How long did it take you to actually come out of the intuitive closet and tell people about your experiences?

Brandi Van: Oh my gosh. It probably took like 15 years. It was a long time. Yeah. And then once I did tell them, I found out that I actually come from a line of psychic, so it wasn’t. Like they weren’t surprised, but nobody had ever talked about it before, so I was surprised to hear from my family that actually, my great grandma was supposedly a witch. And so I had a long line of people with abilities that I was unaware of.

Johnny Burke: Okay. So once you came forward and told people, your family about your experiences, they said, okay, not surprised because, and then they told you about the line.Very, very cool. Any other experiences like this with the, how do I say, non-physical world?

Brandi Van: Oh my gosh. So now that I do mediumship readings, it’s every day. So I’m in the other realm every day of my life right now.

Johnny Burke: Okay. you seem to be having a, a really good time with this, which is, also very cool

Brandi Van: Yes. Love it.

Johnny Burke: You’re a medium and a channel. And I do think these two things tend to be kind of confusing, for some folks, myself included. So what is the difference and what are the commonalities, the similarities that they share?

Brandi Van: Sure. So mediumship is only speaking with deceased loved ones. So I can get messages of healing and comfort and some closure hopefully for someone. but it is the same as in channeling like a spirit guide or even someone from a different planet. So you’re using that same process of how to channel and then what comes through is the difference. So, mediumship is a deceased loved one, but channeling another thing could be an entity, like a spirit guide, an angel, an ascended master. So you can actually channel different types of entities that will give you different messages.

Johnny Burke: And speaking of different types of entities, because I’ve heard that these types of entities can sometimes come through in either type of reading, although it’s not always like that. But tell us about some of these entities. Maybe there are some that are non-human?

Brandi Van: Sure. So I have never experienced anything that was evil or bad. Anything that has ever come through has been so, like, loving and compassionate and giving messages of healing. So I can’t speak to anything that’s malicious or malevolent, anything like that. But anything that has come through first from a spirit guide or an angel has always been messages of just, it could be anything from giving you advice to giving somebody else advice in your life. And if you follow that advice and trust it, you’ll see that amazing things can happen. So they’re really there to help you on your journey here on the human planet.

Johnny Burke: Okay. But have you come across any entities that were not of this earth? Because I noticed if you’re a star seed, you probably, have recognized certain places, and certain types of beings that are not human. Am I right?

Brandi Van: For sure, so first I’m clairvoyant, meaning I see images and symbols. Or I’ll also see like a home video or a photo album, but that usually is with my mediumship. So that’s usually from a deceased loved one.

But whenever I see something from another planet or an entity, they’re not really showing me themselves. I’m more seeing how you said like, I’m seeing a place, and the way I describe this place is if anyone’s ever seen The Wizard of Oz, which is a very common movie at the end where they’re in the Emerald City, that’s what I describe it as. So I’m seeing these huge crystals, and they’re just as tall as skyscrapers and I’m seeing them, they’re very bright and I can feel their energy and I also feel like they are disconnected from where we are right now so I can feel that they are very far away. I don’t feel as close to, let’s say, the spirit world or our deceased loved one. I can feel the distance. And when I do connect there, I also feel like they can go anywhere. So they can come to our planet, they can go to other planets. I’m not getting really clairaudient messages, which would mean they’re coming through my mind, but I’m more seeing. what the planet looks like and what they’re doing on that planet, if makes sense

Johnny Burke: All right. Now your experience with the non-physical world beyond the veil. When we talk about deceased loved ones; does that give you any kind of insight into what it’s like to cross over? Because I was told by one speaker, she had a near death experience and during that part of the experience, she said whatever I thought of immediately appeared. When I thought of my mother. I saw my mom. When I thought of my sister, I saw my sister. When I thought of this place like a lake, I was there. And it seems to be consistent with once we cross over, we manifest just about anything we want. Any insight into that? Or is that neither here nor there?

Brandi Van: Sure. So I don’t even think that manifest is the right word. I would actually say that it’s your vibration. So in terms of how we are here on earth, we have time, we have places, distance, but in the spirit world, they don’t have that. So they’re, they actually move in terms of frequency and vibration.
So if she’s seeing that it’s not only that she’s seeing it, but she’s actually experiencing it and she’s there with them. So it’s not like a manifestation in terms of something you’re creating with your mind. It’s that her spirit was actually with that other spirit. So if she was seeing her mother, it wasn’t just in her mind, it was that her mother was actually there with her.

Johnny Burke: Is it fair to say that in this case, she was creating a reality when she was having the NDE in other words?

Brandi Van: Absolutely. And that’s what the spirit world is all about. So even whenever I do my mediumship readings, somebody can say, ‘oh, are they here with me? ‘And I say they are here with you, but they can be anywhere. And how I describe it is like the sun. So if you have the sun and we’re in China, or we’re in Canada or wherever we are, you can see the sun and those rays come down.

And it’s the same with spirit. That’s how they work. So they’re almost like the sun in terms of energy. They can be in China; they could be here in the United States. They can be in multiple places at a time. Just like the ball of energy, like the sun is.

Johnny Burke: Let’s talk a little bit more about our deceased loved ones, because I think almost everyone on the planet at some point has to think, where did they go? Where did my friend go? Where did my mom go and, that type of thing. Do you believe that if we think of them, then they’re automatically there? We can’t see them, but they’re aware of us. Is that true?

Brandi Van: I think absolutely. Yeah. So the best way to communicate is through our consciousness. So if someone wants to talk to their loved one, I always say, don’t talk to them out loud. Talk to them through your mind. That’s their easiest way of communicating.

Johnny Burke: Really?

Brandi Van: It’s not to say that they’re with us all the time because, if you pass over, you don’t want to constantly be with somebody. I’m sure they have other better things to do. But they can be with you if you invite them in or ask them to come. But yeah, they’re not going to be with you like a hundred percent of the time. But they can absolutely hear your requests. You can ask them for signs to show that they’re with you. So you could say something odd and specific, like, send me a purple elephant with yellow polka dots. And then if that comes in your path, then you know, it’s not a coincidence. Like this is something so specific. I asked for this in my mind for my loved one to show me this. And then that’s like their way of showing you that they’re with them.

Johnny Burke: I didn’t have the experience, but someone that came on the show recently, was asking for proof. And he was basically saying,”don’t mess me around. I want to know whether this is real or not. I want to see a white butterfly” and looked around and waited for it and never happened. And he was driving home, and a white butterfly just literally landed on his windshield, it would’ve been smashed normally.

Brandi Van: And I do want to say too, that it doesn’t mean that your loved one is that white butterfly. It just means that they are able to use their energy to move that butterfly into your path. It doesn’t mean that that object is your loved one.

Johnny Burke: Because we wouldn’t want them smashed against the windshield obviously, but wanted to ask about angels and spirit guides because I think there is some confusion about that as well. How are they different and how are they similar?

Brandi Van: Sure. So angels can actually become humans. So they’re actually human angels on earth and they’re sent here from the spirit world to help other people. So they’re usually people who are energy healers, light workers, like a nurse or someone who is doing great work in the world to help someone, that’s usually could be an angel.

A spirit guide is someone who’s helping each individual human. Help them on their, on their journey here on Earth. So the earth journey is the hardest that there is. So when we’re in the spirit world, we are determining when we want to come back down, who we want to come down with, what we want to experience while we’re here. And because we’re that lowest, dense vibration of any other thing in the whole entire planet or universe, we need help with it because as you know, people suffer whether it’s physically, emotionally, and we need help with that.

So your spirit guides are really here to help you along that journey, and that’s where your intuition comes in. So whenever you get that gut feeling, that’s your spirit guide trying to give you advice and having you listen to them and they’re saying, ‘Hey, I can help you with this, so please listen. ‘And the more that we listen and then act on that intuition, that advice that they’re giving us, they ascend. So they want to help us, and they want us to take that advice because the more that we do, the higher they’re going to ascend in the spirit world.

Johnny Burke: That’s really interesting. I’ve never heard that before so let me see if I understand this. The more we take their advice, and we take in their messages, the higher they ascend on the spiritual ladder as it were.? Okay.

Brandi Van: So you shouldn’t feel bad taking their advice. You shouldn’t feel bad asking them for their advice. But if you don’t take the advice, then it’s kind of like you drop the ball, you know? So you do want to actually do what they say and whenever you recognize it in your life, you also want to thank them because you want to say like, ‘hey, I recognize that you gave me this advice, I took it and look, it led me to my best path. And so thank you so much. ‘So you always want to tell them, Hey, I recognize this and thank you.

Johnny Burke: And these messages come in the form of intuition. A question that’s going to come up a lot in that case is how do we discern what are our own thoughts and what just kind of pops in, or is that it? It just kind of just surfaces in our mind at that time?

Brandi Van: Exactly. So it’s that thought that pops in your mind and you’re kind of like, wow. I’m like, really awesome. How did this amazing thing just pop in my mind? Well, I hate to tell you, it might be your spirit guide. It might not actually be your thought. or it could also be a vision. It could be something that you hear. It could even be something that you feel or that you just know without knowing that you know it. So those are all your intuition. And the best way to say that is have you ever been in an experience where your gut told you to do something, you didn’t listen, and then later on you’re like, oh, I knew it. I should have listened to my gut. That is like a clear sign of you didn’t listen to your spirit guide.

Johnny Burke: Many, many times. I think I speak for many of us. Ascended masters. You mentioned that a few moments ago. Have you had experience of them and if so, what was that like?

Brandi Van: So the ascended masters, I can’t really speak too much of. I know that I do speak with them, and I do feel like they’re part of my spirit council in terms of they protect me and they’re giving me advice, but I haven’t had too much communication with them because for me, and I don’t know if this is for everyone, but they almost keep themselves secretive. So I feel like I might be talking to them, but they’re not like outright saying I’m an ascended master. But I do know that your ascended masters are people that are even higher up in the spirit world. So, whether they were already living and they lived so many reincarnated lives and they’ve done so well that they are just so high up in the spirit world.

I don’t want to bring religion into it, but kind of like the Buddhist theory of, you’re becoming enlightened and so those are your ascended masters. They’re the ones that are closest or even maybe even made it to enlightenment.

Johnny Burke: That’s a really good point because there are many people who will say Jesus is an ascendent master, Buddha, and many, many others. and I remember one speaker, brought that up and we talked about that for a bit and she said, ‘you know, Johnny, Jesus, yes, he’s ascended master, but he’s not the only one that came down with a suitcase.’ There’s Yogananda, and there’s Lord Babaji , which I don’t know a whole lot about, but it does come up quite a bit. So do you recognize them as being ascended because of an energy or vibration signature, or how does that work?

Brandi Van: Definitely by their energy. It’s almost like this pure form of absolute peace, absolute acceptance, and love and compassion. So I mean, they are just non-judgmental, and a lot of times people think that when you die, you might get judged for your deeds that maybe you did incorrectly or here on Earth, but they’re really about teaching you and looking at your perception in a different way. So, you may have done this wrong, but in your next life you’re going to learn from that. Take it as a lesson, you’re going to learn from it. I, so instead of judging you and almost punishing you, they’re saying, we accept this, let’s do better next time. They’re almost like an amazing coach or cheerleader that’s there to help you along in your next life.

Johnny Burke: I like that. And it also brings to mind, when we talk about lessons learned, I’ve been told, we’re here to learn. Has your experience given you any insight into what happens in between incarnations, in terms of planning, that type of thing?

Brandi Van: So I did a past life regression therapy. and so that’s when you go into a deep hypnosis, and they actually take you back in time to a past life. And I think because I do have these abilities, it was much stronger for me, unfortunately, or fortunately, however you want to look at it. I actually went to my past life, saw that and then I went to the spirit world. And when I was in the spirit world, I literally could see my body was horizontal and my spirit guides were below me lifting me up. And when I was in the spirit world, I felt so free and expansive and I just couldn’t connect with anyone or anything that I wanted to connect with.

And that was my experience. But I also know that when you’re in the spirit world, they almost say it’s like a library. So it’s like you are seeing your past life and you’re seeing it in like books, but you’re not reading it. You’re actually like experiencing it. So kind of like before, how we were saying about if you manifest something, it’s not that you’re seeing it, you’re actually creating it. You’re living that experience and that moment again, so you’re seeing it through a different perspective. So then when your next life comes, you can learn from that experience.

So then once you go to that library, now you’re going into like a classroom. So you’re actually getting taught by the ascended masters to say, hey, this is what happened, and this is where we want you to be. But then when we come back to our human life, it’s amnesia and we forget everything that we just learned.

So it’s all in matters of listening to your intuition. Listen to your spirit guides, because we don’t have the memory of what we just learned in the spirit world, but the spirit guides do. So that’s why they want us to listen too, because we just put that all in place. We just don’t remember that we did.

Johnny Burke: Okay. So I believe what you just described is what Dr. Michael Newton wrote about in his books, life between lives where we go and make soul contracts, soul agreements with the soul family. As weird as this might sound, I’ve been told multiple times, it’s like casting a movie ; we have roles.

It’s really quite amazing that every time someone brings a stuff that has experience, the details might differ slightly, but the mechanics are almost identical. Think about that. We choose our parents? Seriously? but the way it’s explained to me is always you may not get the parents you want, but you get the parents you need. and also things are planned and they’re not always good, but it’s supposedly because that group needs certain things to happen. So certain members, certain people, learn lessons so everyone can ascend. Speaking of ascension. Right? Okay. So you, find pretty much the same experience

Brandi Van: I’ve been told that in my past life that my grandma in this life was my sister. So I feel like, your wife or husband could have been your brother or sister, which is so odd and to think about, but they don’t always come back as the same relationship because if they did, you wouldn’t learn, you wouldn’t be able to ascend because you’d basically be living that same life over again. So even though you have these same soul contracts, the relationships are different.

Johnny Burke: You had a past life regression, and you noticed that your gram, was your sister in a past life. Did you actually see her in that vision or in that experience?

Brandi Van: I did. Yeah. of course as they say that we’re all reliving like a trauma or something like that in a past life, and that’s what we’re learning from. So in my past life, my grandma, who is now my sister, I was about, maybe 15 years older than her. So I was like 19 and she was four. and I raised her, because something happened to my family. My parents passed away and then I raised her. so yeah. So it was very interesting.

Johnny Burke: So you have a role reversal you are the elder in that life and obviously she came back, as your grandmom. incredible. So another question that comes up is, for those who are fortunate enough to be able to see beyond the veil and experience, the spirit world, as woo woo as that might sound to some folks, what did they look like? Like your grandmother or whoever you saw, what did they look like in the spirit world compared to what they looked like the last time you saw them?

Brandi Van: Sure. So when I can connect with a deceased loved one, they actually always come to me as their healthiest, best self. So they might have died at 89 and they were hunched over and wrinkly, but whenever they showed themselves to me, I’m seeing them at their highest, their prime of how they how their best part of their lives were.

So sometimes they can come to me almost as a child because maybe their youth was the best time they’ve had, and other times it could be in their twenties. but I do get like a photo of them, of how they were when they passed. So I do see that as well. But then it’s almost like when I’m giving the reading, I am seeing them in different phases of their lives. So I am seeing them in different ways that they look through their life.

Johnny Burke: Which is also consistent with many, many accounts. When you see them, they’re all like around 30. And they look their best and like you say, in the prime. and you recognize them even though you might have never seen them in the prime.

Brandi Van: Absolutely. And basically a hundred percent of people I do readings for. I’ve never known these people, so whenever I describe them to them, it’s interesting to hear their reaction because they’re like, oh, that is what they used to look like. So it’s not what they look like when they pass, that could be like a memory they had or whenever they remember when they were younger. But it’s never someone I’ve actually met, so I wouldn’t know what they looked like anyway.

Johnny Burke: Can you give us a brief description of what a mediumship reading is like, before the sitter, in other words, and what kind of things, like how do you prepare and that type of thing?

Brandi Van: Absolutely. So, how to prepare is, I always tell them at least 48 hours before that they want to start thinking of their loved one. Really invite them to come to the reading, give them permission to bring their energy in. I tell them to start thinking of memories so that they can bring that energy in. I also want them to make sure that they are bringing in happy vibes. So even if they’re grieving, I tell them to try to look past the grieving if they can. And so, because we really want it to be about healing, and if they’re grieving, it’s almost like a brick wall and I can’t get through it to get to the message on the other side.

So I really need them to start thinking positively and of the best memories they had with that person. but once they can do that, at the reading, I tell them exactly how it works, how I’m hearing it, seeing it so that they’re not like thinking how is this happening? and then we go right into the reading and I usually give evidence so that they can validate, yes, this is my loved one. And then it usually goes into how that person passed or what they want them to know. So really messages that maybe someone has guilt or, some shame on maybe they weren’t there when that person passed. And so I always get those messages of like, don’t have guilt, don’t have, any shame for not being there. So it’s always very uplifting, I feel like.

Johnny Burke: Okay. When you enter this realm, have you had experiences with, spirits or beings that have not yet crossed over?

Brandi Van: No. Nope. They’ve always crossed over. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I actually did have like one or two I actually forgot about that. A lot of times I’ll forget the reading because it’s not my consciousness. It’s the spirits coming into my consciousness, so I forget. but now that you brought that up, it did trigger something. So, one woman had, accidentally overdosed and she was so like upset that she hurt her family and she was upset at her decisions to get her there. And I really had to, again, in my mind, tell her that it was okay and try to explain those ascended masters to her. They’re not going to judge you. They’re not going to punish you. They’re going to look at it with acceptance and then, Hey, this is what you need to learn for your next life, so that she could pass. I think she was so afraid of that judgment. that she was afraid she would get somehow punished if she passed over.

Johnny Burke: This one particular woman, did she just pass recently or was it hard to say?

Brandi Van: No, it was like, I think it was like 10 years prior and she was still just holding onto that guilt.

Johnny Burke: Right. That’s one of the things that I think is kind of upsetting when I hear about that, there are souls that did not cross over, and I thought, so how do we help them? I’m not saying there’s an easy answer to that, probably isn’t. But it’d be great if everybody crossed over, maybe there’s an answer for that. We’re probably not going to find that today or anytime soon. But it’s always been something that comes up a lot. some mediums will say, everyone crosses over and others will say, no, not necessarily. Some need help. And they do apparently encounter them in a reading and can actually help them cross over.

Brandi Van: Yeah, there’s so many different types of psychics and mediums, so I don’t feel like I would be qualified to do that. But there are certainly mediums out there that could do that. but yeah, everyone just has a different ability, and I don’t really feel like I have that ability. I was more just encouraging her. There wasn’t like a process in place that I was trying to get her to cross.

Johnny Burke: Right. And maybe certain beings come to you because of your vibration, and maybe other beings gravitate towards other mediums, that might be able to help them. don’t like to speculate, but when we talk about vibrations I think that’s bound to come up again, so, all right. Let’s talk about you being a star seed. How did you discover that?

Brandi Van: So I had no idea even what one was. I had a reading myself and they told me I was a starseed, and then I was like, what the heck is that? I don’t even know what that is. So apparently a star seed is someone who comes from a different planet who’s never been a human before, and we’re being seeded into this civilization. So we are here to help, heal and expand the earth so that we can uplift the planet’s vibration. And what they were telling me really made sense because starseeds, they’re not used to this human body, and they’re used to being this free consciousness. And without this, body that consumed in.

So they were like, you might have, low temperature, which I always do. I’m always like 10 degrees below the normal 98.6. They say, I’m like the misdiagnosis or the mystery diagnosis. And I’ve always done that. I’ve had Scarlet’s fever, I’ve had things that were from a hundred years ago, I’ve always had this weird diagnosis that all the doctors are like, how are you having this?

Johnny Burke: Did you ever have something like diphtheria or

Brandi Van: No, I never had anything like that. I think I had shingles when I was like 10 years old, and they said usually old people get that. I had fist disease, which was like, I don’t know, from the 18 hundreds or something. So I’ve had all these weird things whenever I was younger. Even as I get older that that’s apparently something that star seeds get because we’re just not used to being a human. but yeah, I really had no idea about it until I learned from this reader.

Then there’s like almost like 20 different types of starseeds, if not more. So I’m actually an Arcturian starseed is what I mostly think that I am because I’m empathic. I have a lot of like sensitivities to the world, and I’m really drawn to the sky. So you can look up, like if you think you’re a starseed then you can look up the types and then see like kind of which one you are based on your traits. So that’s what I think I am. I don’t know for sure.

Johnny Burke: It’s going to be very hard to be sure about anything like that, but I’ve also heard people say that we’re all star seeds because no one is, apparently just solely from earth they are from can’t say all over the world. All over the galaxy, I guess. Right.?

Brandi Van: I don’t think we’re all starseeds because I can do readings and because I connect with spirit guides and everything, like I feel like there’s so much more than just starseeds. So would almost be lumping everybody into one bucket. And I feel like there’s so many buckets. So sure some of us are starseeds, but I don’t believe that all of us are.

Johnny Burke: Okay. All right. I’m sure that’s a question that will take a long time to really get a conclusive answer. Maybe we’re not supposed to get a conclusive answer anyway. Right. Okay. You’ve had an awful lot of experiences, what are some of the main takeaways from your experiences that you’ve learned?

Brandi Van: My main experiences that I could give someone is if anyone is fearful or if you’re afraid of the unknown, I really think it’s in your mind so you can decide if something is fearful or not. If every spirit that came to you was like trying to scare you. That means there would be no good spirits. It might be scary to you because you don’t know what it is, but it can be like your grandma or your guardian angel coming to say hi. So I feel like don’t naturally have your first instinct to be fear. I do feel like it’s always something beautiful that comes through and that would be like the main message I would like to give, I think

Johnny Burke: Okay, so, you believe that we all go home to the spirit world without exception

Brandi Van: we all go to the spirit world until we go somewhere else. But yeah, that’s like our home base, if you want to call it that. So we all back, go back to the spirit world before we decide if we’re going back to a different planet or before we’re coming back to being a human. So that’s always like our home base before we go somewhere else.

Johnny Burke: So in in my next life can I ask not to come back to Florida because I don’t like the governor? I’m sorry, I, I had to bring that up. Seriously though, based on your experience, when we’re in that space, do we have the presence of mind to say, I’m not going back to Earth. I want to go to Planet Zadar so I can hang out with David Bowie and, and all the other rock stars that died so I can have some fun? Or is it more like, no, you should really pick something that’s going to teach you what you need to know?

Brandi Van: That’s what it is. So you absolutely have the choice, but the longer you wait the longer it will take you to ascend and that’s really the goal- you want to ascend. Like we were saying, time isn’t really existent on the other side so what could be five minutes here could be like a thousand years there.

So if you wait a thousand years, I’m putting that in quotes because again, like they don’t really have time, but the longer that you wait, then it’s going to take longer to ascend. If you could get to that peaceful place quicker, why would you want to wait? So I could see someone wanting to wait, but I wouldn’t wait forever because then you’re not going to be much more ascended.

Johnny Burke: Mm-hmm.

Brandi Van: And then it’s also about what you want to come back to as a human. So you could decide to be disabled and, in a wheelchair, you could decide to be someone who has a lot of hardships and your homeless because the harder our struggles are here, and you get through them, then the more ascended you’re going to get in the next lifetime. Or you could choose an easy life, which I feel like I have right now. Like I feel like I had a good education, I had a good childhood. Like I’m just kind of breezing through and I’m probably not going to ascend very much. I don’t know if I really learned too much. I don’t have many bad things that happened in my life. So maybe I chose to have an easy life this time just to kind of have a fun one, and then next time I’ll probably have to have a harder life to try to ascend.

Johnny Burke: Or maybe, maybe you’ve already been through that, that whole lot of the struggle, and you might get to the point where, you’re basically told this is going to be your last incarnation. The reason I bring that up and, we’ll end on this note, the Long Island Medium in one of her books, it’s, I can’t remember the title, but it’s one where she has a blue dress on, brilliant stuff. and she basically says, I’ve come to know this is going to be my last incarnation. And she seems very happy. She’s very good at what she I think we can all assume she’s the real thing. So maybe you’re ready to ascend. We’re never going to really know, but is that a possibility that might all be behind you?

Brandi Van: It’s a possibility, but I don’t think it is.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Okay. Well, you seem to be very adventurous, and you’ve got a great attitude. and you’ve got some great experiences that you shared with us today. Very, very cool. Anything else that we should know?

Brandi Van: if anyone wants to check me out, you can always go to my website, www.brandivan.com

#125 Toni Reilly: Reincarnation and Life Between Lives

June 10, 2023 by Johnny Burke

Life Between Lives, Reincarnation

#drtonireiily, #lifebetweenlives, #pastliferegression, #pastlives, #reincarnation

Johnny Burke: Welcome closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Dr. Tony Reilly,(@tonireilly) She is a soul life coach, an author, and one of Australia’s most sought after past life regression specialists. Her soul life coaching program represents the next step in the evolution in past life regression, and her goal is to ultimately change the face of psychology. Toni, welcome to the program.

Toni Reilly: Morning, Johnny. Thank you for having me.

Johnny Burke: It is morning where you are, isn’t it? I keep forgetting that. I’m in Florida and you’re in Australia.

Toni Reilly: We

on the opposite. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: hence the Sunday night recording. Excellent. Okay, cool. So you’re a hypnotherapist and a coach. how did you segue into past lives and reincarnation?

Toni Reilly: my life was very ordinary and mainstream up until about my mid-thirties, and at that stage I became intrigued about intuition. My own intuition was the first time I realized that I had it or it was a thing for me. And in the process of trying to develop that, I started to meditate. And I didn’t know that normal people meditated. I thought monks meditated.

So in meditation I realized I had all of these clair senses and they worked and they were brilliant. The lady who was teaching me to meditate told me to read Many Lives, Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss. When I read that book, I read it in one go and thought to myself. This is what I’m here to do. It was a revelation; I hadn’t had anything to do with past lives before reading that book. From there it was a bit of a process to quickly get it happening and do something with it.

Johnny Burke: That book was or is a life changer, a game changer for many people, and his signature has been felt throughout that industry, and on this podcast, there’s been several people that were trained by Brian Weiss .And I read the book, and it was pretty incredible, to say the least. So that makes sense. What is a Soul Life coach?

Toni Reilly: A soul life coach– they’re more a therapist actually, it’s someone who’s trained to go deeper than the story that we tell as people because we, we usually want coaching because we need some help or we’ve got a problem. So what we do as a soul life coach is go beyond. The story and help that person understand themselves and why they feel the way that they do go to an emotional level, and if that’s really for this day stuff.

But if there are issues that can help boost people’s esteem or confidence, or help them relieve themselves of fear or a phobia, then we can delve into the past lives or even go beyond to help them discover their purpose So that’s really the difference. We, we consider the soul

Johnny Burke: I know that you also wrote a book called, Awake, the Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here. But I think you just hinted about going beyond the past life. Would that be the life between lives space? and

Toni Reilly: And even beyond that

Johnny Burke: I just opened up a pandora’s Box.

Toni Reilly: You did. Even beyond that, the between, if I would just dumb it down, the between life space is where there’s information about either the past lives you’re leading or the current life that you’re leading. So it’s almost like a bit of a space where humans or people can go and interact and get some relief messages, some guidance for themselves. Whereas there’s even beyond that where it’s really, dare I say nothing. The most beautiful nothing where we’re all one. And this is this place where people are always talking about, ‘oh, we’re all one.’ But it’s there. You can feel it and can visit there. They don’t let you stay there long. It’ll usually be you’ve got to go back now. So, yeah, different spaces to go and get answers from.

Johnny Burke: What I’ve been told by many practitioners like yourself is that it is a place where soul contracts take place. Soul family members are discovered, oh. And one of my favorites, the life review, which really almost makes my brain hurt to think about these things, but, it almost seems too good to be true. Is that me or have you heard that before?

Toni Reilly: I think it does seem too good to be true. It’s almost something that you must experience to appreciate. That it’s true. It feels true when you do this, when you go there, when you visit there. It can be a hard concept to fathom, but all of the things, thinking for a start is a human thing. It only happens here in this body. So once we are relieved of the body and we’re in soul energy, or we’re visiting because we’re in between lives or beyond, then we don’t have. The brain or the thoughts to deal with. We don’t have hierarchy; we don’t have time. Nothing of our human existence, and most of all, we don’t have emotion.
That’s why it’s just this amazing feeling there. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: That’s incredible. Now in this space, lots of questions that usually come up when people start talking about past life regression and then the in between life space and then obviously the soul contracts, soul family members as I mentioned before. In these sessions, is it true that we actually choose what period we’re going to reincarnate into a certain period?

Toni Reilly: I honestly can’t say that for sure because the work that I do is for people to feel better now in this life yes, we go back to past lives to help them understand now as well. But when we go in between, they’re usually, they’re asking about now. So the answers that they get in my sessions are for now.
So whether they chose to come into this time zone, or there’s another era,

I should say, I’m not sure because always I’m dealing with this life or predominantly everything’s leading back to what’s going on now and why.

Johnny Burke: the whole purpose of regression therapy, as described in Many Lives, Many Masters was there was a female patient that had some kind of an issue. And in this case, the practitioner was just trying to find the cause, and the origin of the problem. Correct?

Toni Reilly: Yes, she had many symptoms.

Johnny Burke: She had many symptoms, but what he did not count on being taken back to a life that took place what was it, 3000 years ago? That’s how he discovered it.

Toni Reilly: What does happen, Johnny though, in regression is they don’t go linear. Let’s say someone’s dealing with let’s say, anxiety for just pulling something out of the air. They might go back to a caveman time, and then if they go to another life, it might be in the sixties. So there’s no, there’s no linear time when they’re recalling them. They go to where there’s something that’s happened that makes sense of what’s going on now. It’s very cool.

Johnny Burke: Almost sounds like a science fiction movie. And also speaking of movies, I’ve heard many, many times, again, from practitioners and experiencers, that planning of the next incarnation amongst several soul family members, I imagine it’s like casting a play or a movie.

Toni Reilly: Yes,

Johnny Burke: Is that your experience or that of your clients?

Toni Reilly: Yes, It, is like casting a film, it really is. And also something I’ve discovered from all 20 years of working with this is everything is destined. Everything is planned. Every little detail, I think people get annoyed about it and they’re like, ‘oh, you know, its allowing, side stepping and not taking responsibility. ‘But actually what it does is it helps you become at ease with everything that happens and be at more at peace especially when obviously we’re really only concerned when terrible things happen or things that make us feel bad, but you get into this more philosophical mindset of, oh, well, it was meant to be. So why? And start looking for why instead of feeling so victimized by our lives and our circumstances. It’s extraordinary. And I think this is something also that people discover when they do regression or go beyond that, life is planned, and we are to be with certain people or certain souls

Johnny Burke: Everything happens for a reason.

Toni Reilly: It does happen for a reason. Yeah, and often it’s not until hindsight that people are able to fathom, ‘ oh, I get why that happened. ‘And then of course in the moment it’s also not beneficial to tell someone that in the moment when they’re going through something because they have to reach that understanding themselves. Otherwise you’re poking a bee if you like. But yeah, it all turns out,

Johnny Burke: That means that they are on their path and to interrupt them on their path, you’re not really doing the good that you think that you might be
doing.

Toni Reilly: That’s right, yes.

Johnny Burke I think it’s amazing that no matter who I talk to, who has real credible experience in this space, in the L B L space , the accounts, the details are a little bit different, but the, the structure, the hierarchy, the way how things happen is almost identical. It’s not that I’m in a rush to get there, but I don’t know. It seems pretty, seems like it’s a lot of fun to me,

Toni Reilly: Oh, Johnny, that means if you have not done an L B L yourself, we must do one.

Johnny Burke: That might be a discussion for another day, but yeah, I get that. You’re not the first person to bring that up. When I do the interviews, someone will say, a guest speaker will say, ‘so, Johnny, when are you going to do this?’ and I invariably will respond. ‘Oh, I’m going to get around to it at some point.’

I don’t want to make this about me. It’s about the speaker. But that’s a fair point. Your book, Awake, the Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here. Tell us a little bit about that. I would imagine this work had a lot to do with inspiring that work.

Toni Reilly: It did. It did because as I started to do this work, it was a culmination. At the same time, I became so aware of my own stuff and the two of these things together, working with people and also becoming really aware, self-aware of myself, made me realize that absolutely everything in life was quite simple, really. And that one person’s life is easy to outline as to why, why we have these parents? Why did we go to that school? Why do we go to 20 schools? just every little detail has a purpose.

This is what I tried to do when I wrote The Purpose of Life and Why You Are Here, was to just outline the simplicities in life that are fundamental to an individual’s life and how it plays out. So that was what I tried to portray because also I felt that people have this idea that the purpose of life is something different to what it is. It’s very simple, really. The purpose of life is every moment of every day. That’s what I tried to portray in that book.

I did some things, I met somebody towards the end of my marriage. People didn’t talk about these things that happen. But when you work in therapy with people, it happens all the time. And we are quiet about relationships and relating to people, which is a massive part of the purpose of life and judging it from a moral perspective, but really it doesn’t matter because all it does is make people hide what they’re doing.

It’s still all going on because we’re here having these experiences and we’re meant to encounter this person or that person. So I tried to be very honest with what I had done and what I had experienced. I’ll umbrella it with love at first sight, which is this irresistible pull when you come across somebody in your park. But this happens not just for love, it happens for all sorts of things.
So the book was generally about I’m going to call myself an everyday life and how it transpires. Of course, everyone doesn’t get into past lives, but still,

Johnny Burke: A simple answer to what is the purpose of life and why we’re here. It’s pretty much just to learn because as you just mentioned before, everything has a purpose. Every event. And I believe it’s for all of us to learn, not just me, the soul group, even all the bad stuff.

Toni Reilly: I feel like when I first started, it was very we’re here to learn what are we learning this time? But what I also discovered was it was less about learning in terms of we’re paying back, or we didn’t learn it last time. We’re going to learn it next time. I found that that’s not really how it works and that it was easier to call it, we’re here for an experience. I think people also get wound up in, ‘have I learned what I was supposed to? ‘We all do the things mapped out, and we’re going to have our experiences and we will learn. Everybody learns through life. We grow, we evolve. It’s a cycle of life. But I feel like when we are learning, people get this idea that they could fail. But we can’t fail. We’re all going to go through our process just as it was planned or pre-planned, pre outlined, and it will turn out that we experience exactly what we were meant to.

Johnny Burke: By saying that everything is planned, there are several people, well, probably millions, that really have a problem with that, especially when bad things happen. Right. But you’re saying. And not just you, by the way, that bad things happen- some of them are actually planned, even like the horrible things because we are apparently supposed to learn from them. Right? Okay.
: So self-awareness, in your work is very important. I believe your quote says “self-awareness is the ultimate activism.”

Toni Reilly: Yes. yes. Self-awareness, I feelis the way that we can change the world because if we can be aware of ourselves and what we’re doing and what affects us, we then become naturally tolerant of other people who maybe aren’t aware of what they’re doing or why. So somehow, and you know, the result of self-awareness really is calmness.? A calmness. It’s peace, I suppose. But this calmness that, Where you don’t feel like you need to get all involved in, in what’s going on with other people or even within the world because if you take care of yourself and what you are putting out there, it ripple effects out and good keeps happening or people are growing from their experiences and not getting so involved in outwardly not looking at themselves, which is what I feel activism is. It’s like, whoa, you probably need to sort your own stuff out first, before dictating to other people what’s right or wrong. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Do you feel that knowing what you know now that everything is planned for purpose for us to learn evolve. Is it a waste of time and energy to judge anyone where it’s actually easier to make the choice that they are exactly where they need to be, like everybody, and it’s a waste of time for me to judge them?. So I’m not going to interfere. I’m just going to say they are where they are, whether I like them or not, whether they irritate me or not. Do you agree?

Toni Reilly: Yes, yes, I do agree, but I think we are still people here and judgment is also part of the human experience, and we do need it to some extent, to survive as a person because we need to be discerning. But I think judging people, it’s probably no matter how self-aware you get, I think there’s always still going to be at least a little bit of judgment because people are so different to ourselves and it, it can be confronting. I guess what would happen is, It’s for less time. And you always come back to, ‘well, they’re doing their thing and they are so don’t get yourself all worked up about it.

Johnny Burke: Right. Discernment is absolutely necessary. You’re right, right. But when I say judging someone in a negative way without knowing anything about this person, to me that’s just a waste of energy really.

Toni Reilly: I feel like that is a waste of energy. I do think that is the piece that you, come to where why would you Yeah. And I guess that’s kind of nasty judgment, isn’t it? It happens quite a bit, but certainly once the awareness kicks in Yeah. that all just filters away.

Johnny Burke: That reminds me of something else-you also talk about, Gen Z as being different.

Toni Reilly: Yes.

Johnny Burke: Tell us what that means for us and because that’s relevant to this time period we in right now.

Toni Reilly: Yes, it is. So this is also part of the work that I did, is I developed a part of the self-awareness work is I developed a platform based on numerology. I call it life map. Because of that, what I know is a certain energy. The energy of the numbers from our birthdate. Of course it goes deeper, but based on just the birthdate, it determines what our character and our personality is going to be, and it determines the parts of ourselves that we cannot change.

We could try, but we cannot change who we are inherently at the core. what happens with the Gen Z is it starts in I, I think the mid-nineties, but actually when it really changes is in 2000 because from the year 2000, every single individual who was born gets two energy in their character, in their personality, and they don’t all have a one or a nine, which we all had because we were born in 19, whatever. So nine energy is thinking, so ideas, one energy is practical, it’s doing, whereas two energy is the heart and the feeling and the intuition. So what happens when you get these kids, or they’re 23 now actually, but we got these kids starting to be born. They all have that two. The energy of that two, within their psyche inherently.

So what that does is it comes with natural empathy and something they can’t avoid. some of them didn’t even get one or nine or the other practical or thinking energy. So what it means is they default to intuition, not logic. And because of that, they are more easily able to read what’s going on. Probably even if they’re in a bad situation, they’re most likely be able to come to the realization of why is that person doing that? Or why are they like that? Why is this happening? so that’s the main difference. They’re sensitive. They’re all sensitive. And if you can imagine across humanity, no matter their culture, they all come with this inherent kindness or sensitivity, so that’s why they’re different.

Johnny Burke: I noticed that there’s a difference between the Gen Z kids and the millennials that came before them. I thought it was just my imagination, apparently not. Interesting stuff. And you also mentioned intuition and heart. Heart, heart technology, heart- centered. These are all just terms that have been coming up a lot. One woman told me recently that type of thing is a marker of a different dimension, higher consciousness. Do you agree or is that something completely different?

Toni Reilly: I do think it would be associated with higher consciousness, but if I were talking about higher consciousness, I would talk about us as a soul because. When we’re just souls, we’re everything. We just don’t have these human thoughts or characteristics. So we are very pure, and I think that the heart, as far as being a human, the heart center of us or our intuition is the closest that we get within our, our jumbled up humanness that is part of that consciousness, yes.

Johnny Burke: So could that possibly be a marker of the 5D that a lot of these intuitives are talking about these days?

Toni Reilly: I have to be honest and say I’ve heard people talk about 5D, but I don’t know what it is. I’ve never studied it or even really read about it, but what I know is from the work that I’ve been doing is as humanity is evolving and what it’s doing is evolving back almost to when we began in some ways because we were much more intuitive and they were watching what the moon was doing and the stars and these kinds of things, but much more intuitive.

So we’re evolving back to that more connected people. and I think we’ve had our explosion of corporates and all that, and it’s slowly, well, actually, probably pretty fast in the last little while coming down and bringing us back to a sort of more connected humanity. So it’s changing and I do feel that humanity is an experiment that we’re all part of. With each generation it evolves some more e exactly as it’s meant to. So everything that’s happened through the course of humanity has meant to happen. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: So it could be that we are returning to a time or a place in our consciousness where we were more intuitive and we’re more heart-centered, maybe even more towards a group consciousness rather than a zero-sum type thing where it’s always me against you and there’s got to be a loser for every winner. Speaking of which, have you had experience in your sessions where one of your clients was taking back to an ancient time, were maybe the civilizations were more advanced consciousness wise?

Toni Reilly: Yes, it happens all the time. The simplest thing to say is, Earth is not the only place that we incarnate. So yes, people go to other places, other places, and they’re all, I guess, places of experimentation or experiences for the soul to have. but I noticed with any other place that people go, it’s always more energetic and- I’m going to say easier than Earth. Earth is the hard one. The other places are much more,

Johnny Burke: I’ve heard that.

Toni Reilly: I’m just going to say energetic and different. Nice. Even.Yeah.

Johnny Burke: agree. I’ve heard that quite a bit. , I don’t want to call them stories because that makes it sound like fiction. I’m hearing a lot more about people incarnating from other worlds, other systems. And I know that there’s that part of the population that will always kind of roll their eyeballs and smirk when people talk about Pleiadeans and all these other, far-out places, which I know nothing about, but I hear it a lot you probably hear it a lot more than I do. pretty interesting stuff,right? And I’ve heard, speaking of which, that earth is a primitive- I heard this last week, a primitive and warlike planet that’s how we’re looked upon.

Toni Reilly: Yeah, it’s very dense and very, hands on, literally, because we don’t have any of this touch, taste, sound, nothing like that unless we’re here in this body. But Johnny, you know what, on the other places that people go, what’s really exciting about this work is people come along not knowing anything about other places. They’re so mainstream and still sometimes they’ll go off somewhere and they come back like,’ what the was that?’ ‘But it’s happened. They felt it. They saw it, and it’s so reassuring because they’re as shocked as anyone else, and most likely we’re an eye roller before you know if they’d even heard of it at all.

Johnny Burke: I was one of those people not really that long ago. I was always interested in, past lives and near-death experiences and that type of thing, and I never had a doubt about the survival of consciousness, even when I was a young kid. But when people start talking about ETs and different planets and Pleiadeans, I wouldn’t roll my eyeballs, but I would think, seriously? Okay.

I’m as skeptical as many people because I have to think what’s the motive? What would incentivize someone to make that up? Are they selling something? Is it a book? Is it a show? Is it a movie? I don’t know. But the more and more I dive into this, I hear about this stuff a lot. My question is always going to be ,okay for once and for all, would one of these beings come down in a ship or whatever and just put all this to rest so we can get on with our lives?

And according to someone that’s going to be on the show, and I think in about a month, he’s saying there is going to be a new cosmic master that’s going to come down here. And I said,’ is it going to be next week?’ I don’t know Johnny. ‘And I said, ‘great. Can you get him to interfere in the next election? Had to bring that up he had no idea. He got a laugh out of it. Anyway. Speaking of missions, you have a mission to change the face of psychology.

And you also believe that soul life coaching is the next step in the evolution of past life regression. So did the mission or the goal to change the face of psychology create the soul life coaching? Or did the soul life coaching come first?

Toni Reilly: Well, it all started as past life regression as I mentioned, I was on my own sort of self-awareness path, so, it all ended up sort of coming together. Past life regression quickly turned into between lives or there were stages where people were going elsewhere, and then of course, beyond which I call it home,

I think that a lot of people who’ve had any of these experiences call at home. But what happened with it was, I was very conscious that you’re still here as a person and we’re living life and we’re having relationships and we have to survive here, and we have to make the most of it. Life is fun. There’s some good stuff we can do here that we can’t do when we’re not in our body.

So I felt like if we can bring both together, we can make this life better and good, and hopefully a lot more fearless, making the most of it while we’re here. Because the truth is we are, we’re all leaving here we know there’s always been birth and death, so we’re all going through, it’s like make the most of it while you’re here if it’s at all possible.

So I feel like this type of coaching, or this type of psychology is so positive for people to get them back to a place where they can really live, live better, live well, feel good about themselves. So that’s what the whole mission turned into.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Do you feel that this work, especially the L B L space, has anything to do with the expansion of consciousness- which we’re not the only ones talking about that, obviously. Is there a connection there or not really? You tell me.

Toni Reilly: Oh, I’m sure there is. I’m sure there is. When somebody, when a person goes in between or beyond or even into a past life, there is without a doubt- whether they question or not, healthy skeptic, it happens and they know that they didn’t make it up. The emotion comes with it. So across the board, they are immediately more conscious and knowing that there’s so much more than just life and us here, our body. So it’s super awakening or beneficial.

Johnny Burke: To answer my other question, how this can change psychology, it seems to be that this type of work can not only expand consciousness -for all of us, hopefully, but it can also get to the heart of an issue a lot quicker than conventional. What do you call it? Couch therapy? Or whatever it is, probably a lot less expensive as well. What are your thoughts?

Toni Reilly: Well with me it’s an investment, but with soul life coaches, it’s the most amazing experience. It gets to the core of the issues fast and it helps people make sense of their lives and what’s going on and why. That’s the key. Soul Life Coaching is going to help you understand why and maybe one other thing I’d love to just say real quick is, every single one of us comes here with insecurity. It’s part of our mission. It’s part of the purpose of life. And when you understand what yours is and, and potentially, the ones that others have, there’s not that many. Everything just seems to open up and make sense as to why we react the way we do, why we behave the way we do. Some things we can’t change, some we can, and it helps our problems or challenges that we face make sense and dissolve, I suppose. Help us heal and move through.

Johnny Burke: Agree. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Anything else that we should know?

Toni Reilly: Woo. Well, my favorite thing is to believe in yourself, doing the self-work it’s magical. You can’t turn back after that.

Johnny Burke: No turning back. Okay. I think I’m going to quit there. I don’t think I can top that. Great. And so, Tony, thanks so much for joining us this morning. excellent information. How can our listeners find you online?

Toni Reilly: Johnny, they can find me on my website. I’m on all social media, but my website is tonireiilyinstitute.com.

#100 Robyn Locke: Who Are The Elders?

December 16, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Reincarnation, Spirit World

#elders, #lifebetweenlives, #lifereview, #reincarnation, #spiritualessence, #thegreaterpurpose, #universallove

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I’m Johnny Burke, and today’s guest is Robin Locke. She is an energy-intuitive author and international speaker, and today we are going to talk about her latest book, The Greater Purpose, the Bridge Between the Physical and Non-Physical World, and the Elders. Robin, welcome to the show.

Robyn Locke: Thank you for having me today.

Johnny Burke: Now for those of us who did not see your first episode, can you tell them a little bit about how you actually do bridge the physical and the non-physical world, or what many people might call the invisible world?

Robyn Locke: So what I’d say is really clearing the mind and stepping beyond what the mind would suggest and having a welcoming space to be able to connect to something beyond my physical knowingness. So it’s just a matter of practice and developing a muscle.

Johnny Burke: you get insights from the Elders. who are the Elders and what do we need to know about them?

Robyn Locke: And so when I first started receiving insights and had been going on for a while, I finally stopped and said, ” what should I call you? “And they said, ” they call us the Elders.” And I said,” Gosh, that sounds so formal, is there something a little bit less formal that I could address you with? ” And they said,” No, this will do for a time and in time we might change that if you prefer, but right now this is what we suggest you would refer to us as.”

Over time I asked them how they would describe themselves and they said, pure consciousness, infinite awareness. They are mostly those who have not embodied and have that 360-degree view of life without the mind or ego and have that all-knowingness of expansiveness and the ability to understand what we’re going through without the constraints of the physical body and the limitations that the mind.

Johnny Burke: So when you say you get insights, how did that start?, was there visuals or how did you come to recognize them?

Robyn Locke: So I would sit in meditation each morning and I would try to clear my mind, and I would pose questions, and I would wait for my mind to become clear of the clutter of the ego or the mentalness. And wait for an insight to come in and I would write it down in a journal or on my laptop when I got to where I could type faster than I could write, and I would record these. It just really became something that I did within my meditational practice before I went to my real job, years ago. So it was something that I kind of developed over time.

Johnny Burke: Now you say the elders are those who have not incarnated, which I believe would be a point of distinction between the elders and spirit guides, who apparently have incarnated. Is that correct?

Robyn Locke: So There may be different understandings that different people have, based on their experience. So I’ll say that although the majority of the Elders have not incarnated, and the ones that I communicate with have not incarnated. There are those within that grouping because it’s hundreds of spiritual beings, and they actually came on a mission here on Earth, but they are of the persuasion of being that infinite awareness that gives insights in a loving sort of way.

The invisible entourage, which I think you’re referencing,are those that I also believe most likely have not incarnated, and are accessible when you start to ask questions and pose questions in prayer and meditation and contemplation where you’re looking for an answer. You have the means of understanding the answer that they’re giving. The Elders are not my invisible entourage. That’s a different category or grouping of beings that are with one. So you have anywhere from five to seven in the entourage with you at all times.

Johnny Burke: Speaking of spirit guides, some can be loved ones who have passed on . It does get a bit confusing though, doesn’t it? There’s different categories of these light beings for a lack of a better description. Would you agree?

Robyn Locke: Yes, and I would say that it’s all a matter of interpretation. So imagine that you’re a guide for an individual. You’re a spiritual being guide that is trying to communicate and give insights, and now someone has passed that is a loved one that you want to communicate with. They’ve been referred to, and we did talk about this the last time as the great mimickers. It’s not meant as a means of deceiving, it’s meant as a means of being able to provide insights in a way that is receptive, that one is receptive to receive.

So I don’t say that they are not joining the group, that’s not my understanding, but it could be another’s understanding, but also consider now that you’re searching, they have the means to give an answer because they’re with you from embodiment to embodiment, and they’re with you during the in-between time. So they’re your resource. When you give an opening to allow them to communicate, perhaps they want to take that to help the life stream that they serve.

Johnny Burke: Do you think it’s true that we can communicate with our past loved ones, through spirit guides? Do you believe that’s possible?

Robyn Locke: Absolutely. All you have to do is focus on their energy. We’re energy at the baseline consideration. And so when a loved one passes, I do it all the time. When I think about my dad or grandfather or someone that is dear, I just focus on them until I feel their energy and then I send them a message of love and I feel that reciprocated. It’s as simple as that. I believe you can connect at any point and at any time. You’re never separated. It’s the mind that believes of separation.

Johnny Burke: So we’re never separated, which means I can think of my mom or any number of people that I know that have passed, and they will acknowledge it. They will feel it. It’s not my imagination, right?

Robyn Locke: Right. And the thing I would say that would be key to that process is that you always begin from the heart space and that you always begin from a centered space of love, and that you asked to be anchored through light and love in the process. Then you just focus on them until you feel their energy. It doesn’t take very long. And then you say what you want to say and allow that feeling to be returned. Because everything at the end of the day is energy. So you’re just sending them an energetic kiss.

Johnny Burke: Energetic kiss. That sounds like a band name. As a matter of fact, I think that is a band. I think they’re from Brooklyn. more on that later. A few moments ago you mentioned something about the Elders and a mission they have. Is that related to what Dolores Cannon talked about in her books? or is that something completely different?

Robyn Locke: You’ll have to share with me what Dolores shared in her books. I pretty much stay true to my books, so that I don’t mix messages.

Johnny Burke: one of our recent speakers, Holly Duckworth, who was somewhat of a protege of Dolores- we don’t really have time to go into all the details of the books, that would probably take hours. But I think, the gist of it is they are light beings that were reincarnated to come back on a mission. It sounds similar to what you’re describing with the Elders. They might be similar beings. They might be the same beings. Tell us about their mission.

Robyn Locke: What I’ll say is that the Elders were in another system of worlds, and they heard about spiritual essence being trapped in human form and that they had lost their way back home. They had lost their awareness of why they were where they were, and so they came on a mission to this planetary system to allow a remembering to allow more than what we have today. So they’re introducing more truths, more understandings, and it’s simply that the mind needs to not limit what is understood. But they came from another system of worlds to allow remembering within humanity for those who quite frankly have been incarnating for quite a long time

Johnny Burke: So those that have been incarnating for a while seem to have lost their purpose or did not remember?

Robyn Locke: Lost their remembering of why they’re here. If you feel like you have a purpose, then you have a purpose. But I’ve been told that not everyone has a purpose. So it’s that inner awareness that you have a purpose, you want to know what it is because quite frankly, you are spiritual essence.

Spiritual essence heard about this Earth platform where you could understand something when you don’t have the feeling ability in spiritual form. And so in order to understand what love truly is, how do you know what love is unless you know what love is not? And so they chose to enter into an agreement to come into physical form. They donned a, what they call a space suit, like an astronaut suit, to be able to breathe in the environment, to be able to walk and talk and do all the things that you would do to have this experience so that when they left this earth plane, this journey, this experience, then they would understand what love truly is.

So those who have forgotten what their objective was to be here in the first place, perhaps have not enacted or understood that purpose. They have forgotten their objective, their mission, their reason for being in this earth space. And so what the Elders seek to do is to remind them so that then they can enact what they came here to understand and move beyond this earth experience in the rounds of reincarnation, which will continue until they satisfy the agreement that they entered into to incarnate here.

Johnny Burke: Now you mentioned that the Elders have been here. Do you know approximately how long ago was that in terms of Earth time?

Robyn Locke: They don’t know time-

Johnny Burke: They don’t.

Robyn Locke: Time does not exist there, but what they shared in the Awaken book, which launched recently, the first chapter is my soul’s first personality’s- my first embodiment, because we’re all connected. It was beyond an earlier than recorded time. It was a more advanced time than today. What they shared with me most recently is, we have had a higher evolution that has devolved and now is evolving in a higher way now, but not certainly anywhere near the higher evolution that we once were.

Johnny Burke: Now that seems to imply that thousands of years ago, we did have an advanced, civilization here. Not just in terms of technology, but in terms of consciousness.

Robyn Locke: I think they always talk in terms of consciousness. I received an update the other day in how to incorporate the means of manifestation in universal love, which was something that was done in this more highly evolved time. And it was the time they called the wanting, the wanting time. So today you donate to a charity to help those who are a part of that charity who receive support from that charity. This is the means to create a manifestation energy mixed with universal love that actually buoys up a whole community, individuals within that community. You direct that energy toward, and it is an elixir, more or less. I’d asked for a new insight because a lot of times I feel like we’re giving the same update and I wanted something more. So this was in response to my request to have something more to be given. And it is this development of this energy elixir, and it’s going to be released on. So it’ll be on my YouTube channel.

Johnny Burke: All right. in your experience with the Elders, your insights sound like downloads. It’s almost like you get a firmware update or something. Have they given you any kind of knowledge of ancient civilizations?

Robyn Locke: They do, and they have- they’ve given me three. One was a lost civilization; one was a story from a long time ago. It’s fun to receive those because they give kernels of insights within each of them, you have to really listen. I’ve started doing blog posts where it’s not from the Elders, but from me explaining what the Elders are giving, because sometimes they give it in such an esoteric way you may miss the message. So what I’m trying to do now is to start the blog post with something from me and then link it to the YouTube that will come out that same day.

Johnny Burke: So they have mentioned ancient or lost civilizations. Can you give us a hint of what that lost civilization was, or if there was more than one?

Robyn Locke: They don’t give particulars. They give insights into the civilization that they discuss. It’s not like they describe it, but what I know for sure is that I had an embodiment after my initial one that I worked in technology and it was a very advanced time, but apparently, my personality pushed against was customary at the time, tried to introduce something that was before its time or not acceptable. It’s caused subsequent embodiments with technology to have technology issues. I was doing something the other day with a launch, and it was almost like a sack was put over my head, and I did some work on that this morning because I believe that that was some experience that was held in that embodiment. So what I believe for sure is the value of knowing earlier embodiments is to understand limitations that we may hold in this lifetime.

Johnny Burke: When you say you worked in technology, that seems to be that took place in a period before recorded time here on Earth? Was it that long ago?

Robyn Locke: Yes.

Johnny Burke: I’m curious. How many thousands of years ago was that?

Robyn Locke: They don’t give time. They don’t recognize time. In the Awaken book, they talk about a parallel universe and time travel and all sorts of uniquenesses. And they say time does exist concurrently. So if you can almost imagine that some of this is going on concurrent to this one, but it was in a very different time. So it’s the time factor is something that we feel very tangibly here because we’re physical, but when you’re not physical and it’s just energy, it’s different.

Johnny Burke: That is a mind-bender.

Robyn Locke: It is a mind-bender, isn’t it?

Johnny Burke: It is. And I’ve heard several times that there is no time, everything exists at once. I had someone on the show recently, I believe it was Holly Duckworth, and she was talking about an experience where Dolores Cannon, who was her teacher and her mentor, had a discussion across time with Nostradamus, and I think that is just incredibly cool. But I’m thinking, Okay, so she had a discussion with Nostradamus back in whatever century that was. So you believe time travel is actually possible?

Robyn Locke: I don’t focus on a lot of this. I just know what they have told me, and I trust the Elders. So they’re from the energy of love and my purpose is service. And so truth is my life purpose. Because we don’t talk about the life purpose, we talk about the original purpose, which is the bigger, more vast purpose or greater purpose. There is so much more than I think we can individually conceptualize. They said the mind is like a computer and it hasn’t been programmed for spiritual objectives, so I don’t limit any of that with my limited knowledge because I don’t believe we could mentally handle what really is, because we’d just be blown out of the water. So most give little kernels that we can kind of get around and digest. I think I know 1% of 1% of 1%, but I don’t know by any stretch all that there is.

Johnny Burke: So, in other words, trying to really understand the concept of time or no time is probably beyond our comprehension in this current incarnation. Eventually when we cross over, hopefully then we’ll get it.

Robyn Locke: so what I will say when we pass, we hold the same belief system that we hold now. So if you believe something that’s partially true but not fully true, you’ll be reinforced by everything that you currently believe. Your belief system travels with you to that in between transitory time, they’ve shared that in The Greater Purpose. So if you believe something, Is kind of right, but not completely right. It will be reinforced and then you’ll plan your next life using what they call faulty material, not complete information.

Johnny Burke: So there’s no teacher there giving you the correct answers to the test, is what you’re saying?

Robyn Locke: No, because what Universe says is you have free will, and so if you wanted to know more, you would have looked for more in this lifetime. It would be a diminishment of your free will election to tell you that what you believe is not so at that point in time. Does that make sense?

Johnny Burke: Yep. Even with my earth brain, I think I can understand that. You’ve mentioned the in-between space, and agreements. I believe this is from the book: “the remembrance will enable our ability to stop the rounds of incarnation and complete the agreement we set up.” Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Robyn Locke: So the Greater Purpose is a three-purpose trilogy book set that is combined into one. The second book in the set is called The Original Purpose, and in that, it talks about the transitory time, and it talks about that in-between time and the remembrances and all of those details. In the third book, which is the most recent Enact Your Purpose, it talks about how you are not your mind, how you are separate from that. It gives the analogy of you donning a space suit to be in this lifetime today. And so all of this melds together to give you a more definitive understanding of what all of this is about.

This is where they compare the mind to and all of this to a computer and say that oftentimes the computer operator is watching the computer as a computer decides what it wants to do. So we need to become that conscious awareness where we take back the decision-making and recognize that the mind will lead us off track oftentimes because it’s like the teenager without the curfew.

Johnny Burke: Teenager without a curfew. What a lot of us have heard about the in-between space, life between lives and I think Michael Newton in his books talked about this quite a bit. Is this the place where we make soul agreements with the soul family? I’ve been told it’s almost like casting a movie. Do you find the same thing or is it a little bit different?

Robyn Locke: It’s very similar to that. When spiritual essence wanted to have this experience, they had to encapsulate it into a soul. So the soul isn’t necessary, and that’s why someone once referred to the Elders as departed souls and the Elders responded that you may not know the energy in which you’re speaking to, because they are not departed souls. They didn’t mean it in an insulting way, but they meant it that you’re not understanding the energy in which you’re communicating. And so departed souls are often those that want to come back and give a message they didn’t have a complete life, or they want to share more or they’re not ready, whatever the issue is, but that’s not this. So within the experience and the transitory time there is the faulty material that we’re basing our next incarnation.

So imagine today there is a lot of unrest within, let’s say, our population. The people that are fueling that feel very empowered and correct and right in what they’re doing. So imagine that you’re in a space and you believe whatever is believed and now you’re given reinforcement of that faulty belief system, and you formulate your next life based on those faulty beliefs. You can almost see it in the world today.

Johnny Burke: This is one of the things I could never quite understand. When we talk about karma, we are responsible for our behavior, our acts, what we do here on Earth. If you take a scene, where this group starts making decisions like, in my next incarnation:” You’re going to be my mom. You’re going to be my dad; you’re going to be the friend that betrays me. You’re going to be the girl that, breaks my heart,” whatever that is. They come down here, right? And some people have decided to play the bad guy. Do you think it’s true that once they go back to that in-between space they’re going to feel what they have made others feel ?

Robyn Locke: Yes and no. So what I believe is that when you go into that in-between space, sometimes you need a villain because you want to experience, and they’re helping you experience that thing by taking on that role. what I’ve been told about the review process is that it’s not an in-depth review. It’s snippets. It’s like little components. It gives the individual the overall flavor of the lifetime. Because the intention isn’t to make one feel bad or feel in a lower space. The intention is to review and give an assessment but in the space of love. So the other thing that you mentioned was about the agreement, I believe that the agreement is the thing that brings you into embodiment the first time. I don’t know that the agreement is reinforced in the in-between times because what I believe happens is the original incarnation is where you have the closest stability to enact your original purpose for entering into physical form. As different incarnations occur, there is less and less and less of remembrance, not only of the original purpose but of the divine lineage from which you came.

So there is that forgetfulness that we are in now. You can imagine that many had been incarnating before recorded history, that would mean that there is a great diminishment of understanding and of remembering and of recall. And there haven’t been books that directly go to the steps that need to be done so that an individual can reconnect to why they are here and what they can do to move out of the rounds of incarnation because karma has been misinterpreted by mankind or whoever wrote some of the definitions. The manmade inference is that you have to atone and make right past indiscretions. The Elders have said if you choose to do that, through your free will election. You may be coming here for a very long time, but the true meaning of karma is to make whole.

Johnny Burke: That’s a very interesting point you just made. So in other words, just so we all understand this, the Elders have basically told you, if we understand karma as atonement, we’re going to be coming back again, again and again.

Robyn Locke: If we believe it and accept it, if we embrace it, it’s free will. I believe that. I wanted to make right all my wrongs. I wanted to atone for everything that I had done. And they said, it’s not like that- this space is meant to be where you make mistakes because the mistakes make you look a different direction. So don’t try to make right what need not be perfect. You came for perfection. Now you’re in a space of imperfection and the imperfection is needed to show you a different direction, a different path, and to make a different choice.

Johnny Burke: Going back to the in-between space and the soul group; the casting, for a lack of a better description is done in such a way that the group learns as a whole. Depending on what role you’re supposed to play, good or bad, the objective is not just for you to learn, it’s for the entire group to learn. Does that make sense?

Robyn Locke: It does, and I don’t know that I have heard it that way. Everything I’ve heard is more individual and you need different players to come in. It discusses this in the Awaken book where it talks about needing antagonists, needing adversarial components in your storyline. When you recognize that many of the antagonists within your storyline are merely a reflection of the one who doesn’t like them. When you recognize that there are people that you hear all the time that people don’t like in politics, and they really almost rub them in a visceral way. Like it’s a deep angst that they feel. I always will ask when I hear that, “Well, what is it that you don’t like about them?”

If you can understand that the thing that often people don’t like is the very thing that they embrace. And no one likes to see someone doing something that they don’t like themselves doing. So it’s a mirror image and once we recognize that a lot of those things that we see is bad are simply reflections of us, and we see the gift in what was given, and we can look at the experience differently, and then we may not feel that way toward that individual anymore. They were simply needed to show us what we couldn’t see within ourselves.

Johnny Burke: I do like that, and it reminds me of what a friend of mine told me recently, He said,” I listened to your podcast on all these different episodes, and I really like how you dive into the in-between space and try to make sense of it. Could it be that if one were to look at his or her surroundings instead of saying, this person’s mean, this guy’s a dick, this girl’s a bitch,or whatever, merely look at them as if they’re playing a role. If you look at them that way, they’re playing a part. That’s what they were directed to do. That’s what they signed up for. That’s what I signed up for. That means I don’t have to judge them- it’s not good or bad, it’s just experience.

Robyn Locke: So the elders have said judgment is self-judgment. So whatever you judge the other person to be, how would you know what that person does? Really? How do you know what they think?

Johnny Burke: We don’t

Robyn Locke: But you know what you think and we know what you know. And so when you judge, it is the realization that you see that component in yourself. What they recommend- I think it’s in chapter nine of Awaken, that you have a journal, and you list all the characteristics about this individual and you go through a process. So that you can see and then release what was unseen before. It’s all meant to be a journey. It’s all self-discovery.

Anytime something doesn’t happen, it’s not because of them, it’s because of the energy that we individually keep. So when our energy shifts, we broadcast energy differently. That energy goes out and gathers more of its kind before returning back to you. So when you’re at a different energetic state, then you’re going to get a different energy in return. Once you have that realization, these people won’t bother you in the same way that they used to, and they’ll either exit your life or you’ll see them and you don’t care in the same way that you did before, or what they say will flow over and through you and you’ll chuckle at it and think it’s absurd. So that’s where the transformation happens, because now you freed yourself from the mental bonds that you had before because what the mind interjects is most of the time factually incorrect.

Johnny Burke: Does that have anything to do with what you describe as the mind being separate from us? The mind is not us?

Robyn Locke: Yes. And they explain that very eloquently. And I don’t know if we have time, but it’s a great explanation I never understood it fully, but I do now.

Johnny Burke: Well, we might have another installment because it seems like we do have a little bit more work to do on this. Robin, thanks for coming back onto the show. in the meantime, I believe the best way to find out more about you and your books is at www. Advanced energetics.org.

#100 Robyn Locke: Yes.

#93 John Koenig: My Autobiographies: An Introduction to Past Life Exploration

October 29, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Past Lives

#lifeinbetweenlives, #pastliferegression, #pastlives, #reincarnation

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus I’m Johnny Burke and today’s guest is John Koenig. He’s a board-certified hypnotist, past life facilitator, and author of My Autobiographies. An Introduction to Past Life Exploration for Personal and Spiritual Growth. Today, we will be talking about his journeys as a past life explorer, John, welcome to the program.

John Koenig: Thanks for having me.

Johnny Burke: So being a board-certified hypnotist, was the interest in past lives, a normal progression, or did that interest come from something else?

John Koenig: It was really something else. The truth is I wasn’t particularly interested. I was very interested in Buddhism and Zen, that kind of thing. I was interested in telepathy, but not reincarnation. I met a wife of a friend who was doing past life facilitation. On a whim, I went to a session with her and immediately found myself experiencing life as an 18th century, member of the First Continental Dragoons. And it blew me away. I couldn’t believe that I was having this incredible experience, rich experience.

Johnny Burke: Past life facilitator, is that the same thing as past life regression?

John Koenig: Yes, fundamentally, but she did a technique that I’ve never run across before or since obviously. I don’t even know what she did. All I know is I sit down; I take a few deep breaths? And I’m very, very adept at going into trance. They used me as a Guinea pig at hypnotist events. So I went out pretty quick, I guess. So yeah, she was a regressionist.

Johnny Burke: You said that you experienced a life in the 18th century. Tell us a little bit more about, what it felt like and how you kind of knew that it wasn’t a dream or your imagination?

John Koenig: it was fascinating. First, she had me speak and you could either speak about the experience, whereas you can speak from who you were. And I started speaking from who I was and introduced myself as I started to say Corporal Riley, but then I edited to Private Riley and he was a pretentious little guy. He had a silk shirt, it was his big claim to fame and he was on a mission to give a message to his captain. And he went to this house, there was either a party or a big, meeting taking place. I walked into the room and there was something weird. This happens to me over and over in past lives that I don’t quite understand. Then I realized I was looking at a big, big room lit by candles.

The light is very different. In my life I’ve never been in a big room, lit by candles. And what happened to Riley is the officer who met him at the door, said,” I’ll take the message. And Riley is a pretentious little soul who had pretensions of being, a modern-day American Napoleon back in the day, became very upset. He died shortly after he died in great upset. A lot of the lives I’ve experienced – maybe 24, 25 lives. Usually, there’s some traumatic end to the life in my experience. And also people that I’ve worked with some traumatic end that leaves unresolved issues flopping around. And in Riley’s case, it was, ‘they don’t respect me’ I’m not respected. He had an idea’ I’m going to the big room, like the officer, this message. I’m a big man’ and he dies with that thought. So I experienced his consciousness flying up through the pub. He was in up three floors and that was also interesting.

Johnny Burke: I’m trying to imagine what that must have felt like when you walked into a room,

John Koenig: Hmm.

Johnny Burke: There’s no TVs. There’s no smartphones. None of the trappings of modern 21st-century life. Did you feel kind of spooked or what did that feel like?

John Koenig: I felt intrigued. When I began to realize that I was experiencing something profoundly different. For example, one of the lives I experienced was as a female, a woman and she had three sons. And suddenly I began to sense that her idea as a mother was radically different from mine as her father, and it’s with surprise. It’s like wonder, like how can this be. You know you’re experiencing something that’s odd that’s not typical. That’s one of the ways I kind of validate these experiences. There’s something about them that is unexpected and, and yet real.

Johnny Burke: Everyone would ask, how do we know whether it’s a genuine past life memory or not? I’ve heard from other speakers that they remember often painstaking detail, which dreams don’t because often dreams evaporate almost when you wake up, seems like. Do you find the same thing?

John Koenig: Yeah. Detail. I will say this from my perspective, I really don’t know. Riley was one that a friend of mine investigated, and found that that the First Continental Dragoons did exist, and it was in a certain area where I reported it as Riley. But generally, I really don’t know. Some people think that there’s a DNA thing. Other people think that these are genuine. Some people will tell you that they are manufactured by our subconscious, like a dream. We talked about the idea that adults can be contaminated by television books, media. I’m really impressed with the work of Ian Stevenson.

He began that work, getting little kids. Five-year-olds and he’s got University of Virginia Perceptual Studies. Thousands of kids say this and they go back, and they actually document everything the kids said. So one of the things we talked about is what’s what is it like to live believing that past lives are a fact.? I think it’s wonderful., I get certain things out of that. One thing is I don’t have to get it perfect in this life. And I find, I find

Johnny Burke: Regarding, the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson, it’s a bit hard to really try to debunk that because if I’m not mistaken, he found the kids that have past life memories. They went and found the families and the kids knew so many different things about the families, including family secrets, that in about 1500 cases, they accepted the kid as the reincarnation of their loved one that passed a some time ago.

John Koenig: Yeah. You can choose to willfully not believe that, but I think that’s a choice. You got to bend over backward to refute these things and Stevenson was meticulous. In being ethical and thorough, these things really just happened. These little kids had this very clear image of another life. And when he went back and checked, they did. So, how does that inform you how to live? I think it’s been profound in my life. It’s changed the way I look at people look at myself, and look at what life is all about. I believe this is how it’s done.

Johnny Burke: Do you get a sense that we’re all responsible for our actions?

John Koenig: Absolutely.

Johnny Burke: it’s not as if we get a free do-over, let’s say we live a life We hurt people we break the law , but it’s not like at the end of our life, we think, ‘oh, great. I’ll get to do this all over again.’

John Koenig: That’s not the intention of, it. One of the thoughts I’ve had is that humanity- we are growing individually. I call earth spiritual kindergarten and I’ve heard it described as earth school, that we’re here to grow, and I believe we’re growing individually, but also as a species. I think we’re all in this boat together and we’re moving towards something. So if it is spiritual kindergarten, I would prefer not to be left behind this year.

Johnny Burke: I think a lot of us do not want to be left behind, but do you get a sense that we can build up good karma or bad karma and that will have an impact on the next incarnation?

John Koenig: I think there is that. The last life before this life. I experienced myself as a Polish auxiliary SS guy, a young guy. He was a guard at one of the ancillary camps at Auschwitz. Here’s the thing about that, about weird details;

If he looked on your wrist and you had a number, you were already dead. You were just being stored. You were already dead. He dehumanized the people entirely. I picked up karma as a result of that. In this life, my father, his dad died in 1939 or 38 when Adolf Hitler was still a big guy, Time Magazine, front cover man of the year, dictator of the year.

My dad was a wannabe Nazi, so I got to live with a lot of stress that came up from living with a wannabe Nazi. I got to the other side of the fence, the side of the wire, plus a whole bunch of other things. I picked up some bad karma and like most people like Nazis. The guy Ernst wasn’t diabolical, he was just uncaring or banal. His big complaint was that his uniform was not as nicely tailored as the real Germans. He was Aryan but he was basically a Pole. He thought that they thought of him as being a Christian Jew if you can picture that. And these thoughts were unusual to me.

Johnny Burke: How did that life lead from Ernst? That’s his name, right?

John Koenig: Yeah.

Johnny Burke: What was the life, the incarnation, right after?

John Koenig: You’re looking at it -born in 1948.

Johnny Burke: Oh, so, okay.

John Koenig: A lot of people would write about this, say that typically reincarnation occurs like 18 months or so after death. And you know, for me, it would’ve been three years.

Johnny Burke: 18 months?

John Koenig: I’ve heard that said.

Johnny Burke: I would’ve no idea.

John Koenig: I’m not sure. I try to avoid speculation in this stuff. I’ve always was a pragmatist and that’s one of the reasons why I was not interested in past life work, it seemed fanciful or made up. But I’ve learned a lot.

Johnny Burke: It seems exactly like that. A friend of mine who is really interested in this type of thing, he’ll make jokes about people talking about past lives; they’re always like a king or Queen of Sheba or someone important and famous. That seems a little strange to me, but I’ve also heard other people recount experiences from a past life as if they just told me about a trip to the grocery store. Like it’s very matter of fact. So I’ve seen that too.

John Koenig: Well, the Queen of Sheba type people are the least favorite people like me like to work with. They want to experience something. They’re going to shift it into what they want. Most lives like all of my lives were peasants pretty much. I was never a king or usually I say in my book, there’s one king of few nobles. The rest of us are always peasants. And in this life, I’m a peasant, a very privileged peasant to live in 21st century America, but a peasant., when someone wants to do that work, I will actually try to discourage them. Most of the problems people have, I think are generated in our current life. So I will try to discourage somebody if, if they think, “oh yeah, I was Marie Antoinette. “Really? Maybe you were lucky enough to be Marie Antoinette’s, hairdresser!

Johnny Burke: So you’ve had 20 or 25 past lives?

John Koenig: Yeah, 24 or 25. I put 14 in the book, I experienced a few after the book. I paid some past life facilitator; regression hypnotist and I spent an hour as a bug. I don’t know that was worth the money. The thing about that is I’m crawling around as a bug and a bug view. I see these blades of grass. They looked like, of course trees, but there was this one big dome and I realized,’ oh my God, that’s a drop of water, the tensile strength holding it up.’ And I got a chill just mentioning that kind that happens in past life work.

Johnny Burke: What are some of the other experiences in any of your past lives that really kind of stand out that will teach people about past life work?

John Koenig: Here are two that I’ll mention, and I’ll mention some names, David Quigley. I went to a past life facilitation training at Quigley’s place in Santa Rosa, California. And he invited us to experience relationships. Have you been involved with somebody in this life? Maybe you were with them before. So I go into a state of trance and suddenly I found myself- I’m in a blacksmith shop. And this guy with this big black beard is pounding the metal and I’m his wife, I’m Lena, his wife, and he is my wife in this life, Maria.

And I feel like the luckiest girl in the village that I’ve got a husband that doesn’t beat me. I feel like I’ve won the lottery. I’m bringing him his lunch and- big black beard. And in this life, my wife couldn’t be more feminine if she tried. But in that life, she was this-

Johnny Burke: Big burly guy.

John Koenig: So he says to me, “what does your wife, what does Victor say to you?” And I started laughing. I said “nothing. He’s a man of few words.” And in my wife’s life, she doesn’t speak a whole lot. She’s not very chattery. She’ll talk when it’s important, but generally, I wake up in the morning talking, I go to bed talking. What I got out of that life, by the way, Lena has heard in the village from the old women, that the Cossacks were going to come and – this is Russia,draft men -take ’em away. And in my village, when they took the men away, they didn’t come back for 20 years. You became a widow, even though your husband was still alive. So I tell Victor, I said,” we got to get out of here”, but I’m just a female. And he tells me I shouldn’t be so foolish as to listen to the women in the village. I beg him, and of course the Cossacks come, they take old men in the village and Lena spent the rest of her life. as a widow whose husband is still alive. And to her death, she always felt she was the luckiest woman in the village that she had a wonderful man and that she dies, and that death was beautiful. Her daughter was with her. My takeaway from that, I wasn’t listened to in that life because of my gender. And in this life, I came back with a mission to be listened to. I’ve taught in college. I became an ad guy, wrote TV commercials, hypnotist, instructor of hypnotism, et cetera. That’s my mission in this life, to communicate.

Johnny Burke: How did you know the blacksmith was your wife in this life?

John Koenig: I just knew. There aren’t words to describe it, I just knew that that was Maria.

Johnny Burke: So you knew it. So you were in a female body- what, is it like?

John Koenig: Yes,

Johnny Burke: This I cannot imagine, but to be in a female body. Did you feel the same way about the blacksmith as you do about your wife now?

John Koenig: No, there was nothing romantic or sexual about it. I’ll tell you one thing though. another life, I was a woman in Alexandria, and I have three sons in this other experience. They’re builders. One of the ways you go back in your past lives is, do you want to bring forth the skill or talent. I wanted to bring forth talent, leadership. So I find myself as a female. Women have a different style usually of leadership, more mentoring empathetic. I’m my boy’s confidant. They tell me everything, and I advise them. So that experience, I was able to apply a bit more and at that time I had a bunch of employees.

So at that time, it was helpful. but I got to realize that being a mother is radically different from being a father. And I had no idea that was the case. They came out of my body. They were an extension of my flesh. And I don’t know how it ever would’ve felt that experience without having done this. It’s very different. To have a baby. they’re part of you nine months, which by the way, is I think how we reenter; we enter incarnation. We got nine months to get used to the idea, right?

Johnny Burke: Okay. Speaking of incarnations, did you experience what’s called the in-between or life between lives?

John Koenig: Another name, you might contact is Alita Grant and she’s out in Colorado. I went to the training she did back in May of this year or April. She guided on us to the between life place. That’s where I began to really understand why I chose my father. I got very much in touch with O’ Riley because that was my last time to plan this life. I signed up for it to not only reverse or account for the karma. but for my personal, growth.

Johnny Burke: In that space, what does it look like? Did they look like people? Are they bulbs of light?

John Koenig: I experienced more forms with people that look like people. The thing about it is when we’re in between lives. It’s pretty much blissful, my experience. Everything about incarnation is effortful- to pick your hand up, you’re fighting against gravity, right? Incarnation without resistance, you can’t learn. If you want to build up your strength, you do resistance training, you pull against something and that’s what incarnation is about. You wonder why anybody comes back? I belong to a Facebook group about past lives and this guy posted a couple of weeks ago. ” don’t care what anybody says. I ain’t coming back,” but nonetheless, we come back because we have learning to do.

Johnny Burke: I’m on Facebook too, but I have now kind of tuned out some of those things. It might as well be like truth social- a lot of people giving opinions.

John Koenig: I thought it was funny; I just took it as a joke.

Johnny Burke: That’s exactly what it is. I have asked that question to speakers that have been on the show before; do we have to come back? And one woman said, ‘ “no, you don’t, but the way to learn is to come back.” That’s the quickest route to learn. So you can eventually, ascend and then you get to the point where you don’t need to come back. But most of us are at that place where, as you indicate in your book, we’re here for a reason, we’re here to learn.

John Koenig: And I think I’m a slow learner.

Johnny Burke: One woman told me that you’re here to learn a specific lesson. And it’s usually the thing that you struggled the most with.

John Koenig: Right.

Johnny Burke: Would you agree?

John Koenig: A mission, yeah, absolutely. My opinion. No doubt about it.

Johnny Burke: When people hear that, they think, okay. So instead of running away for this challenge, I should probably run to it, right?

John Koenig: Yeah, but then again, it is so freaking painful to be on Earth. Everything is effortful. Every life has tragedy,

Johnny Burke: Every single one. Life between lives, that’s apparently where we make soul agreements. It’s like casting a play almost. Isn’t it?

John Koenig: I was doing a past life thing with a wonderful woman. Kristen Johnson, and she experienced the between life where she was pretty much done. She could have chosen to graduate, but her advisors talked her into coming back again with the idea of being a force. She has a new book out called Heal the People. Kristen Johnson, a really good book, but she came back clear with the idea that she had a mission. I think it’s a grand mission than mine, frankly, but she had a mission to heal the people. Can you imagine the power of that?

Johnny Burke: Yeah, many of us have no clue what our mission is. I talked to a friend of mine who spoke to a medium, which I think kind of freaked him out a little bit. And she said,” you need to figure out what your purpose is; you’re an old soul.” I can’t vouch for the veracity of this reading, I’ve no clue. How many people, do you think actually know what their purpose is?

John Koenig: That’s a good question. Again, I’d be speculating, but I think it’s a fairly small percentage. Most people live on the basis of, work, satisfy your carnal desires, including eating too much sometimes and go for recreation. So, eat, have relationships, and recreation. Sleep. Repeat. Most people live that, and we have goals, but they’re always limited;I want to buy a house. I want to get a summer place, whatever they think- want to get a new car. Most of us are based on that kind of thing rather than a soul purpose. And there’s nothing wrong with that, by the way, that’s what they sign up for.

Johnny Burke: They signed up for a vacation life?

John Koenig: No, no, they signed up for eat, screw, work, enjoy recreation, go to sleep. Most sign up for that. And everybody has challenges, whatever happens, there’s going to be a death in your life within that framework, you may have a physical illness, and you may lose people you love. I love this song by John Lennon. Instant Karma .”Instant karma gonna knock you in the head ” I experienced this one life in Egypt and he was a cattle rancher. He provided cattle to the military. And one day somebody above him in society, take his land, and he becomes a slave. So he wakes up that morning feeling rich, successful, and arrogant. And then, the guys come and his whole life alters. And if you think about it, that is more common than not. You’re going along life in a bubble. And then something horrible happens to all of us, that’s life and the learning there.

In that case with that guy, it was about arrogance, kind of like Ernst a little bit. He didn’t treat his slaves well. He regarded them as objects, I guess. What he got to learn in that life was to treat people, with respect and dignity. So, that was the lesson that life gave me. And you ask how do I use these things? I do meditate on these things. I look and see what lesson was there for me. I’ll reconnect with Riley or, or Ernst or, Lena, so I find that very, very useful. And that is the thing about doing past life work. get to know yourself.

Johnny Burke: You just mentioned,” I reconnect with Ernst or Lena or any of your past life entities. You made it sound almost like they are separate from you. It’s almost like it is a separate entity or is it not?

John Koenig: That’s how I think of them, they’re not me in my current life. I’m fond of them all. And my favorite life was the African shaman. A beautiful, beautiful character. A very honored position in his village and he did everything right. All the rituals, the rattles, the right incense. Everything he did perfectly, and he didn’t necessarily believe it. He had a skeptical, open mind. Of all the lives I’ve experienced, his is the one I most cherish. He dies by trying to get power from a rhinoceros. He has this obsession that a rhino’s horn can be used for male potency must be powerful and if I can get the power of the rhinoceros in me, I can be like a rhinoceros for altruistic reasons. And he dies that way. And his lesson is he hadn’t sought any mentors. He hadn’t told anybody. He had this tree, he thought was his confidant. And he hadn’t had a conversation with the tree. And so that’s the lesson there is to talk to people. And in this life, I ask people’s opinions about things. I try really hard not to do everything myself.

Johnny Burke: So when we die, is our life uploaded to the Akashic Records? And if so, how does that work?

John Koenig: Some people think that when you have a past life experience, you’re just going up to the Akashic Records and you’re accessing one of the lives that’s there that helps you deal with whatever issue you have. So in that case, it’s not your life; you’re accessing a life. I’m inclined to think not. What makes more sense is your soul is evolving with the idea of becoming this new species I call it homodeus, a species that is more aligned with deity, and there’s also soul families, by the way.

Johnny Burke: The soul agreement is made with members of your soul family. You’ve had many past lives- besides your wife in this life, Maria, did you recognize anybody else?

John Koenig: No, I haven’t yet. I think by the way that thoughts about’, do I know anybody from a prior life, can be for many people recreational. But I think if you went back with the intention, let’s say you have a problem with your boss, and you wonder were your boss and you connected. I think that would work from that point of view. I’ve just never done it with anyone except Maria.

Johnny Burke: What if we were just curious about, my friends, family, acquaintances, girlfriends, that type of thing? Did I know any of them in a previous incarnation?

John Koenig: Absolutely, you set it up that way with that intention.

Johnny Burke: Okay. So in closing, I got this from reading the book. You’re convinced that there is nothing to fear in death?

John Koenig: True. But if I knew I was going to die this evening, I guarantee you I’d be a little bit nervous!

Johnny Burke: Your fear at least diminished somewhat?

John Koenig: Very much- it logics out for me, that there is nothing to really fear in death. That it’s part of the whole process. I’m not looking forward to that. I love my current incarnation.

Johnny Burke: It sounds like it’s quite interesting. Any other takeaways that, we did not bring up?

John Koenig: I’ve got a final thought, I’m sure you’ve heard of Landmark Education. I was doing a thing with them. And at the end of six days of training, we played a game where you were like a samurai and in the game, you could die if you were in a battle, and I died early on in the game, and to make it real, they had assistants drag your body out of the room into the morgue. So I’m lying in the morgue. I was like the fifth, sixth person to die and I heard the game going on, and I found myself thinking I want to be in the game. And it occurred to me that that’s how it is.

I have got a question for you; Why are you not doing your own past life explorations? You may not want to talk about that, but I’m curious; somebody that does this with lots of people. Why haven’t you jumped in?

Johnny Burke: I would think that’s probably a question for another day, but maybe in the future, I’ll talk about my own past life exploration, which I haven’t done yet.

John Koenig: Obviously you’re drawn to it.

Johnny Burke: I’d rather just be the spectator and the man with a notebook, just asking questions.

John Koenig: That’s your incarnation. That’s what your mission is, maybe.

Johnny Burke: Hopefully it is.

John Koenig: You’re doing great work, bringing this up to peoples’ attention. So

Johnny Burke: Hopefully people do find some value in it. John, thanks so much for joining us. How can our listeners learn more about you?

John Koenig: Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. My website, possibilities. nu or my book, My Autobiographies, Introduction to Past Life Exploration for Personal and Spiritual Growth.

#90 Wajid Hassan: The True History of Mankind

October 8, 2022 by Johnny Burke

Ancient Civilizatons

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Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus I’m Johnny Burke and today’s guest is Wajid Hassan. He’s an actor, healer, and author of The Struggle For World Sanity. Today, we will be talking about ancient civilizations, the true history of mankind, as well as what the future holds .Wajid, welcome to the show.

Wajid Hassan: Hey, good to see you again, johnny. Appreciate it.

Johnny Burke: I should say, welcome back to the show. The last episode , was very good, very well received. And, I’ve got a lot of interesting emails, from our listeners asking questions about Dr. King, which we’re going to touch upon today. Now we talk about the true history of mankind, the conventional wisdom and history books describe the earliest civilizations were about five to 7,000 years ago. We’ve also heard stories of Atlantis but that may be just a myth- or is it?

Wajid Hassan: Well, the real true history of mankind has not been revealed except my Yogi master, Dr. George King, went into deep meditation, projected from his body and had the chance to read what’s called the Akashic Records of earth. Similar to if a psychic looks at your aura, they can see your past and your present and maybe your future as well. It’s the same concept that the mother earth is a living being has a aura. And those in advanced states can achieve these advanced states of projection.

Dr. King wasn’t unique; there’s many Yogi adepts in India and Tibet and other places that have done the same as well, but he revealed the true history of mankind in his book, The Nine Freedoms and, it’s actually fascinating, but at the same time, it’s very shocking and it goes back 18 million years. What my Yogi master said was whenever he stood up on a platform, he had a technical oath before his creator, his higher power that he would speak the truth. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, The history of mankind is vague. Like you said, they’re going back 5,000, but they haven’t really seen it in the way that that the Yogi masters see in full dimensional, uncolored, totally open, history.

So he mentioned that we’re actually not from this earth. We were actually a resident on a planet, uh, orbiting between Jupiter and Mars, known as Maldek in The Nine Freedoms, he mentioned that we were actually a very advanced race .

Johnny Burke: You mentioned the Akasha records. Can you give us a brief synopsis of what the records are and how it works?

Wajid Hassan: a Yogi master can look at your aura and see the imprints of all your previous lives. And it’s the same thing with the mother earth she has an aura, and those who are advanced in the occult sciences and metaphysics, I guess you could call it like a super computer that holds, every aspect of the history of the planet . Any extraterrestrial that goes to any planet can read the aura of that planet and know everything about that planet. So these are things that I believe are beyond science fiction. I believe they’re beyond the grasp of the materialistic scientists who have yet to discover other realms, other higher dimensions.

They say what the Yogi talks about today, the scientist reveals 500 years later. So, I would listen to the more advanced Yogi master than I would to any scientist who just sticks to the physical realm. And the physical realm is just a small aspect of creation.

Johnny Burke: I had that kind of discussion with someone just a few days ago. We talked about science and discoveries and so on. And I thought, I think the intuitives are going to be well ahead of the scientists in terms of discovering the metaphysical world. And I think it’s interesting that you mentioned the history goes back millions of years. I had a woman on the show a few days ago she talks about, Remembering past lives in Atlantis and in other ancient civilizations. Of course, I’ll always ask.

So how long ago do you think that was? And she said ” well, this might stretch your imagination, but it could be 20 million years ago.” We’re talking about Atlantis, Lemuria and all those other worlds. Do you think those civilizations could have been actually that old?

Wajid Hassan: Dr. King mentioned Atlantis, was about a hundred thousand years ago. He didn’t talk too much about the civilization Lemuria, but it probably was far more distant than that. The shocking aspect of our history is that Maldek was destroyed, by anatomic. explosion as was Lemuria and Atlantis were destroyed by atomic warfare. So this is the fourth time that mankind has again opened up the Pandora’s box of atomic warfare. And based on just even recent things, it could go into another nuclear Holocaust. So it’s important for us to be aware of these things and not let history repeat itself.

Johnny Burke: Very, very true. As you mentioned before, the scientists are years behind the Yogi Adepts and the other seers. Tell us about your time studying with Dr. King, what he learned from these ancient civilizations.

Wajid Hassan: I believe that he wasn’t part of the terrestrial civilization. I believe he was from a different world in a different dimension. And he came here to teach. But he came with a warning to mankind, to not again, regress. And, like he mentioned in The Nine Freedoms that Maldek was destroyed by atomic explosion, and we are remnants of that race. It was an advanced civilization. He said that technology wise, he said that robots controlled all aspects of civilization. So the people could control the weather. They had an abundance of food and they kind of lived in utopia.

The Bible mentions Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, it’s a bit of a fair story, but it has a very strong, moral parable to the fact that we were in the garden, Eden and regressed out of the garden Eden after the destruction of Maldek . Fortunately for us, the mother earth being a compassionate, advanced goddess allowed, these remnants of atomic mutation to eventually reincarnate upon her body.

After millions of years, the civilization of Lemuria did rise and fall under the great flood. It’s been known scientifically that the earth has tilted on her axis twice. And that happened after the atomic destruction of Lemuria, where Lemuria went under and then the same again with Atlantis.

And so, we stand at a crossroads today. We can go into regression and start another atomic war. But the difference this time is that we will not be allowed, to reincarnate if we do start an atomic, Holocaust. We will probably be taken to another younger planet in this solar system, which was revealed by Dr. King in the fifties and the scientists laughed at him. Then in the sixties and seventies, they said, “oh yeah, there’s a possibility of this planet on the other side of the solar system.” So we stand on a crossroads now where the mother earth is raising her vibrations . Matter is being spiritually elevated. And either we change on a spiritual level, or we will not be allowed to stay on this planet. And only those who can keep the vibrations, their spiritual vibrations on this high level will be allowed to stay and enjoy. This is the message of hope. Enjoy a new Dawn of a new age, which is soon to, to become in the next few centuries on planet Earth

Johnny Burke: We’ve all had lots of discussions about reincarnation. I’ve had speakers come on the show and talk about how some of us will reincarnate onto other worlds, because that’s going to be the best possible outcome for us. But this is the first time I’ve heard someone say mother earth is actually making the decision to not only raise her vibe, but basically expel those that do not raise their vibe. Am I right?

Wajid Hassan: She’s not expelling anybody. She was told by highest forces and on July the eighth, 1964, she received a tremendous initiation, where tremendous spiritual energies were sent into her and she’s holding these energies at bay. So she’s kind of been ordered by the higher cosmic hierarchy to rise in the heavens. She’s been holding back her evolution just to keep this crazy micro call man on her body for the last 18 million years. But there comes an end to the suffering of. any entity, even if it’s humanoid or a planet like mother earth. And so she is actually not shaking anybody off her back.

It’s up to us if we are going to enjoy this new millennium is to conform to the higher vibrations and in mercy , those who can’t, the war mongers and the murderers and the polluters will be taken to this other planet to start the reincarnation cycle and the bloody history that they created.

A lot of these changes like the ice caps melting and the ionosphere coming down is a small part of carbon emissions. A lot of it is actually to do to this great change that’s occurring now on planet earth.

Johnny Burke: In our last talk, we talked about cosmic masters, cosmic beings, and how they’re connected with these ancient civilizations. . How is Maldek related to if at all to races or entities like the Arcturians or the Syrians or several other types of these beings, is there a relation or are they completely different?

Wajid Hassan: Well, I think a lot of people are being deluded by having these contacts with Pleiadeans and Arcturians. I think there’s part of our memory that remembers us as space travelers, remembers usas advanced beings. The beings that contacted Dr. King were actually from this solar system. He mentioned that all the planets in this solar system are inhabited on higher dimensions by these civilizations. They actually physically saw the destruction of Maldek and they saw the destruction of Lemuria. They’ve been monitoring us for millions of years and they have seen the destruction of Atlantis. Now they come with this warning again, that we’ve opened up Pandora’s box and we’re ready to destroy ourselves again. They’ve warned us in these critical times to cooperate with the divine laws, send out healing, send out power and change the world through the release of energy of love instead of this destructive mode.

We’re known as a very savage primitive war -like race, and they’re trying as much as possible to save us from our own destruction, but they can only advise at this time. They can’t openly come and save us- it’s up to us. Because we created our own history. They karmically cannot intervene. The only intervention that they can do is beam spiritual energy through us for us to radiate out. That’s the only solution that’s going to fix. The problem that we’re in right now, is a spiritual release of power to transmit the hate and all the terrible things are occurring.

Right.

Johnny Burke: What about those of us who consciously want to raise our vibration.? when we finally die here- and we all will on earth, does that mean we’re probably going to come back here, or could it be possible that we’re going to reincarnate on other worlds?

Wajid Hassan: I don’t know about other worlds, but I will say another world. I don’t think there’ll be different worlds. I Dr. King mentioned in The Nine Freedoms, and the cosmic masters have also mentioned that we’re only here on earth for one reason. That’s to raise our consciousness to the point where we can raise, the mystical power of Kundalini and go into these deep states of cosmic consciousness and eventually Ascension where we can eventually evolve and go on to higher dimensions and higher planets. That’s our heritage. What’s occurring right now is not our, Heritage’s, just something that we’ve created. We can’t blame God or any divine being for that. It’s our own mess.

And so, the cosmic beings have said that there is a planet in this solar system, it’s on the other side of the sun from where the earth is. So it’s not visible but based on their calculations of the gravity pool exerted by Neptune and Uranus that this planet is there. They say it’s about 10 times the size of this earth. And the cosmic beings have said that that is the planet that those who won’t be able to survive these high vibrations will be reincarnated upon this planet.

Johnny Burke: That planet almost sounds like an Australia of sorts. it’s like you’re rounding up all the ne’er-do-wells and kind of dropping them off and saying “off you go.” Is it something like that or?

Wajid Hassan: I don’t think karma punishes; I think karma teaches. This will be in mercy because they won’t be able to withstand the spiritual vibrations of mother earth. Only those who can will be allowed to stay, I don’t think they will judge any particular race or religion or humanoid. They will just judge based on positive or negative. So if you have that positive vibration and align yourself with the higher vibrations of mother earth, you’ll be allowed to stay. It’s not a punishment. It’s not Australia. It’s just an aspect of divine law, I guess.

Johnny Burke: Well, it sounds like they’re being held back a grade because they need to learn. And you’re right. I think it is only fair. Another question I’ve had, this has been coming up a lot. A lot of people that have been on the show and they remember past lives in Atlantis, like the woman I just described as well as Lemuria. They are telling me that many people that are alive today had past lives in one of them or both places. Why do you suppose that? Is, does that have something to do with Ascension or something that the planet needs?

Wajid Hassan: All of us were on Maldek. All of us were on Lemuria , there’s nobody who wasn’t. All of us were in Atlantis.

Johnny Burke: I’ve never heard that.

Wajid Hassan: Yeah, so there wasn’t any particular special person that was in Atlantis. The whole human race from the Aborigines , the Eskimos, to the African tribes to the Russians- any aspect of the mankind, we were all part of these three civilizations. So, a lot of people are having past life experiences and they recall being in advanced states, so they confuse ’em with being connected to other planets outside of the galaxy or Pleaidians or Arcturians, but really all they’re just remembering is that civilization of Maldek, Lemuria and Atlantis.

We need to focus on what’s happening in our solar system. There’s this vague, silly theory that the cosmic beings are suddenly going to come and rescue us. They’re not going to rescue us. They didn’t rescue us when we blew up Maldek ,or when we destroyed Lemuria and Atlantis because we did it ourselves. They’re not in the position to come and rescue us, but if we look up to them and cooperate with them on a spiritual level, they can in many ways intervene and help us, but we have to make them move first.

Johnny Burke: It’s basically on us. Okay. Because I have heard people that some of these cosmic beings, they’re not going to intercede on our behalf until the situation becomes so dire that the preservation of the planet is in question, but you’re saying that’s not true.

Wajid Hassan: They won’t intervene in mankind’s war. And I agree with them that if they try to harm mother earth, then they will intervene on behalf of mother earth because a cosmic hierarchy has said that only one planet in this solar system was allowed to be destroyed. But the mother earth herself will not be allowed to be destroyed by mankind. If it means destroying the whole of civilization to save mother earth, they may have to do that. She’s more important millions of times more than the whole of mankind combined because of a evolutionary status.

These are some of the stark realities and not the wishful, nice ,condensing theories that people have forward. They’ve said it’s it’s going to be hard work to change the situation on this planet. And the hard work is rolling up our spiritual sleeves and sending out the power and being of service to each other. That’s not a popular motive these days because everybody’s into their own thing.

Johnny Burke: Let’s talk about disclosure. I know that’s a bit of a thorny topic, but what are your thoughts on that?

Wajid Hassan: in regard to?

Johnny Burke: Why is it happening? Why hasn’t it happened before? Why is it slowly starting to be revealed now? Is there an agenda that we need to know about ? It seems to be very murky at the very least.

Wajid Hassan: Well, there’s so much misinformation that’s going around. So it’s very important for people to use their intuition so they can figure out the truth from the untruth. I would follow somebody who spent many, many years in strict yoga discipline, strict mental discipline like my master did for 10 years practicing yoga. It was then he was contacted. The only way that these beings could contact him was when he raised his vibrations to higher psychic centers like the heart center. So, I would trust a person like that than somebody who just has vague recollections of a past life or vague dreams and has not been trained the way Yogi masters are trained.

The truth of the disclosure now is because there’s an urgency. Things are changing rapidly, but mankind is not listening. We’re on the brink of maybe another third world war with this Ukrainian rubbish that’s going on right now that that could escalate. The disclosures were given, I believe through my Yogi master, in such a way as to warn mankind to say,’ look, you’ve been through this before. You need to stop this and start sending out power, start sending our healing and love and raise the vibrations of this planet. We know what’s going to happen if you don’t.

Johnny Burke: What did Dr. King think about what our future actually holds

Wajid Hassan: Well, it’s a glorious future. He went into deep meditation and he, and he saw the future. He saw this, if we hang around, there will be a world. In the future that will have no borders, there’ll be no economic system, no monetary system, no races, just one race, and it’s going to be total utopia. It’s just gonna be a beautiful, beautiful place to live. So that’s our heritage that’s coming up. So every man, woman, and child are going to be given the opportunity to be part of this race. The decision has to be made now. We’ve been told that conditions will be so good that they’ll be beyond our even wildest imaginations. That’s how beautiful the conditions will be. Doesn’t seem right now, based on the horrible things we’re seeing in the media all the time, but, but there is nothing. There’s no force, no military, no economic force that’s going to stop this great change from occurring.

Johnny Burke: if you had to guess, when this would take place?

Wajid Hassan: Well, it’ll probably be in our lifetime because we’ll be reincarnating on and off this planet. Dr. King didn’t give a specific time, he did mention that in the future there will be, a cosmic being that will land openly, and declare himself and warn mankind .So that that’s actually going to happen. The Bible and the other religions talk about Messiah coming. Dr. King said he will openly land in a spacecraft and demonstrate his spiritual powers and his might and warn mankind. And after that, if people don’t listen to this person, they won’t physically take to this other planet, but after they pass on, they’ll be taken from the other realms to this other planet. I believe it could be maybe a thousand years. I don’t know. It’s hard to say.

Johnny Burke: I, can’t see that happening anytime really soon. So this other planet, does it have a name?

Wajid Hassan: It hasn’t been given a name. I know the scientists call it planet X. There was no name given to it by the cosmic beings.

Johnny Burke: Do you suppose it’s gone be. even more primitive than earth is

Wajid Hassan: Dr. King mentioned that the people may regress again, like they did after Maldek , their intelligence may actually regress further to maybe again like the caveman status. And he said it is a primitive world with volcanoes and, and stuff, so we may have to regress the prehistoric times again and make our way up. So we won’t be just evolving in the same evolutionary state as we are now.

Johnny Burke: That’s actually pretty frightening because if you think about it, the people that are not so good that had that have, I suppose, very low vibrations, they stand at pretty good chance to reincarnate on such a planet. Is that true?

Wajid Hassan: Yeah, but they will all be reincarnated with their intelligence, really, really regressed. And it may take ’em, thousands of years to regain that intelligence. That’s what happened to us after Maldek, Lemuria and Atlantis; our intelligence was reduced tremendously. So again, they may reincarnate as a very primitive, primitive race. We’ve only ourselves to blame if we do go to that other planet, because we didn’t listen to the promptings of our higher selves.

Johnny Burke: But what about those of us that are making a conscious effort to raise our vibration and evolve into a higher state?

Wajid Hassan: of us, who are doing that will probably more than likely stay on this planet

Johnny Burke: I think that gives a lot of us incentive to do so. What else can we learn from Dr. King’s teaching?

Wajid Hassan: The essence of the main message that he came forward with is that we’re in the age of Aquarius. It’s the age of service. It’s the realization that we are one race, that we are our brother’s keeper- whether we like it or not, and we are responsible for the whole race. We’re all metaphysically connected. We’re just different races cultures religions and sexes for different experiences as we reincarnate on and off this planet. But we’re all interconnected. We’re one and we have to help these days we can’t stand back, going to the wilderness and evolve. We have to be part of civilization- we can’t evolve unless we help others evolve. , that was his main message of raising the vibrations, not only for ourselves, but for everybody on this planet.

Johnny Burke: Excellent. Any other parting advice that you want to tell our listeners ?

Wajid Hassan: I think we owe it to the younger generation coming, I think it’s our moral and spiritual duty to elevate ourselves so that the generations that come will look at us as being pioneers, as opposed to being, self-centered and only thinking about ourselves.

Johnny Burke: I like that. Good. Wajid, thanks again for coming back to the show, as always very, very good content. How can our listeners find out more about you online?

Wajid Hassan: They can just go to my website, which is wajidauthor.com

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